I am new here.  I show some photos at the show in Houston ast night
that was nothing short of amazing!  Feel free to take a peak...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tpgraham/sets/72157594308070861/

Hi
You can get it from me on soulseek/msn messanger/skype, whichever is more
convinient for you.


>From: "Piet Karregat" <pogmothoin@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: <16horsepower@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [16horsepower] Re: A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special,
>including a phone interview
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2006 18:21:32 +0200
>
>I am interested!!!!
>Terribly sorry that I have missed it!!!
>
>Thanks a lot in advance.
>
>Greetz,
>
>Piet Karregat
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Quite The Charmer
>   To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:15 AM
>   Subject: RE: [16horsepower] Re: A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special,
>including a phone interview
>
>
>   You can e-mail me personally and I'll tell you where you can get it,
>anyone
>   else that is intrested is invited as well, of course.
>
>   >From: "paulc1138" <paulc1138@...>
>   >Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>   >To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>   >Subject: [16horsepower] Re: A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special,
>   >including a phone interview
>   >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:26:32 -0000
>   >
>   >Will there be an archive of this show somewhere, so that people who
>   >missed it the first time will have an opportunity to listen to it
>   >later on?
>   >
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: A S

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 7:12 AM

Subject: Re: [16horsepower] For The Hardcore Collectors Out There...

Klaatu Barada!

The song is called "Swedish Purse" and not "Silk Purse".

Take care,

Alex

>From: Shannon Burns <shannonburns71@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [16horsepower] For The Hardcore Collectors Out There...
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Thanks Bill! Anything Woven Hand is good news.
> Shannon
>
>tnoct@comcast.net wrote:
> In case you didn't already know, there is a Woven Hand track
>(Silk Purse) included on the free CD included with this month's issue of
>MOJO magazine.
>
> Bill

----- Original Message -----

From: Quite The Charmer

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:15 AM

Subject: RE: [16horsepower] Re: A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special, including a phone interview

You can e-mail me personally and I'll tell you where you can get it, anyone
else that is intrested is invited as well, of course.

Klaatu Barada!

The song is called "Swedish Purse" and not "Silk Purse".

Take care,

Alex


>From: Shannon Burns <shannonburns71@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [16horsepower] For The Hardcore Collectors Out There...
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Thanks Bill!  Anything Woven Hand is good news.
>   Shannon
>
>tnoct@... wrote:
>             In case you didn't already know, there is a Woven Hand track
>(Silk Purse) included on the free CD included with this month's issue of
>MOJO magazine.
>
>   Bill

Thanks for that. I've never heard of Manes. They certainly "owned" the
song which I thought was cool.



...What was that crap in the intro about?



--- Plague Dogs <burninginsyde@...> wrote:

> Manes covered 16HP??  I gotta hear that.  I havent
> heard anything recent from Manes, but I liked their
> old stuff quite a bit.
>
> --- jerusha <jerusha@...> wrote:
>
> > I don't remember anyone mentioning this before, and
> > a search in the
> > archive came up empty: I just listened to a cover of
> > Cinder Alley by the
> > Manes.
> >
> >
> http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=1&id=9632
> >
> > If the cover had been more metal and less electro, I
> > probably would have
> > liked it. As it is, I *much* prefer the original.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > jerusha
> >

In case you didn't already know, there is a Woven Hand track (Silk Purse) included on the free CD included with this month's issue of MOJO magazine.

 

Bill

Manes covered 16HP??  I gotta hear that.  I havent
heard anything recent from Manes, but I liked their
old stuff quite a bit.

--- jerusha <jerusha@...> wrote:

> I don't remember anyone mentioning this before, and
> a search in the
> archive came up empty: I just listened to a cover of
> Cinder Alley by the
> Manes.
>
>
http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=1&id=9632
>
> If the cover had been more metal and less electro, I
> probably would have
> liked it. As it is, I *much* prefer the original.
>
> Cheers,
> jerusha
>
>
>


====================================
See my king all dressed in red ...
I betcha five dollars he'll kill you dead

I don't remember anyone mentioning this before, and a search in the
archive came up empty: I just listened to a cover of Cinder Alley by the
Manes.

http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=1&id=9632

If the cover had been more metal and less electro, I probably would have
liked it. As it is, I *much* prefer the original.

Cheers,
jerusha

from yesterday's popmatters edition:

http://www.popmatters.com/pm/features/article/5678/songs-of-faith-and-
struggle-an-interview-with-wovenhand/

shortened:

http://tinyurl.com/ewmlm


Finally get to see DEE live for the first time ever this coming Monday.


- James

You can e-mail me personally and I'll tell you where you can get it, anyone
else that is intrested is invited as well, of course.


>From: "paulc1138" <paulc1138@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [16horsepower] Re: A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special,
>including a phone interview
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 21:26:32 -0000
>
>Will there be an archive of this show somewhere, so that people who
>missed it the first time will have an opportunity to listen to it
>later on?
>

Hey all.

I'm driving from tallahassee, fl to atlanta, ga monday afternoon to go to
the show.

anyone want to carpool/caravan?

let me know.

joshua*

----- Original Message -----

From: thedirtyfeetcollective

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 8:53 PM

Subject: [16horsepower] Re: puur recordings?

has anyone ordered puur from ultima vez?  they have the sort of system where you fill out
a form online with your info and then it gets emailed to them and they reply to you with
further directions.  i tried ordering it but still haven't heard back from them and i really
want to hear this recording.  i tried finding it on soul seek to tied me over until i was able
to get the actual cd but have had no luck finding it yet.

Hi there,

I just doublechecked the Glitterhouse webstore, and it seems that they finally
made it available there. Try under www.glitterhouse.com and then just type
"puur" into their search engine and you will find it.

All the best
Lutz

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com [mailto:16horsepower@yahoogroups.com] Im
Auftrag von thedirtyfeetcollective
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. September 2006 19:53
An: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [16horsepower] Re: puur recordings?

has anyone ordered puur from ultima vez?  they have the sort of system where you
fill out a form online with your info and then it gets emailed to them and they
reply to you with further directions.  i tried ordering it but still haven't
heard back from them and i really want to hear this recording.  i tried finding
it on soul seek to tied me over until i was able to get the actual cd but have
had no luck finding it yet.









Yahoo! Groups Links

has anyone ordered puur from ultima vez?  they have the sort of system where you
fill out
a form online with your info and then it gets emailed to them and they reply to
you with
further directions.  i tried ordering it but still haven't heard back from them
and i really
want to hear this recording.  i tried finding it on soul seek to tied me over
until i was able
to get the actual cd but have had no luck finding it yet.

----- Original Message -----

From: Quite The Charmer

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 6:29 PM

Subject: Re: [16horsepower] A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special, including a phone interview

Oh...The radio station works only from Sunday to Thursday, 20:00 till the
middle of the night Israel time, so the direct listen will work only on
those hours...The radio site itself (a pretty outdated, bad site, I must
admit) does work: http://radio.huji.ac.il/ .
Lets hope that on Thursday it'll work fine :)

>From: "Piet Karregat" <pogmothoin@quicknet.nl>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: <16horsepower@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [16horsepower] A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special,
>including a phone interview
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:06:57 +0200
>
>Great!!!
>But euhhmmm... nor the direct listen-site neither the radio site is
>available.
>Are there other possibilities to listen on the internet?
>
>Greetz,
>
>Piet Karregat
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Quite The Charmer
> To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:27 PM
> Subject:[16horsepower] A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special, including
>a phone interview
>
>
> Will be aired this Thursday on Mount Scopus radio, 23:00 Israel time,
>22:00
> Central European time and 13:00 California time...
>

Will there be an archive of this show somewhere, so that people who
missed it the first time will have an opportunity to listen to it
later on?

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "Quite The Charmer"
<gleedamakerz@...> wrote:
>
> Oh...The radio station works only from Sunday to Thursday, 20:00
till the
> middle of the night Israel time, so the direct listen will work only on
> those hours...The radio site itself (a pretty outdated, bad site, I
must
> admit) does work: http://radio.huji.ac.il/ .
> Lets hope that on Thursday it'll work fine :)
>
>
>

I think it's awesome, definitely worth having...nice
to hear tons of bandoneon again, glad to see he hasn't
entirely abandoned it.At least on LE;)

--- thedirtyfeetcollective
<thedirtyfeetcollective@...> wrote:

> hey,
> thanks for the info.  i just went to the
> glitterhouse page and typed in woven hand in the
> search engine but couldn't find puur listed.  do you
> know where on their page it is?  also,
> has anyone heard it?  what's it like?
>
> thanks,
> allan
>
>

Oh...The radio station works only from Sunday to Thursday, 20:00 till the
middle of the night Israel time, so the direct listen will work only on
those hours...The radio site itself (a pretty outdated, bad site, I must
admit) does work: http://radio.huji.ac.il/ .
Lets hope that on Thursday it'll work fine :)


>From: "Piet Karregat" <pogmothoin@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: <16horsepower@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [16horsepower] A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special,
>including a phone interview
>Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 12:06:57 +0200
>
>Great!!!
>But euhhmmm... nor the direct listen-site neither the radio site is
>available.
>Are there other possibilities to listen on the internet?
>
>Greetz,
>
>Piet Karregat
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Quite The Charmer
>   To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:27 PM
>   Subject:[16horsepower] A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special, including
>a phone interview
>
>
>   Will be aired this Thursday on Mount Scopus radio, 23:00 Israel time,
>22:00
>   Central European time and 13:00 California time...
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Quite The Charmer

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:27 PM

Subject: [16horsepower] A 2 Hour David Eugene Edwards special, including a phone interview

Will be aired this Thursday on Mount Scopus radio, 23:00 Israel time, 22:00
Central European time and 13:00 California time.
There'll be plenty of music (by Woven Hand, 16 Horsepower and a few related
others) and of course, the interview I conducted with Mr. Edwards.
The interview is in English, but the (little) talking I'll do will be in
Hebrew.
For a direct listen: http://132.64.204.91:8000/listen.pls (requires winamp).
The radio site is at radio.huji.ac.il
Thanks

----- Original Message -----

From: Todd Brown

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 1:29 AM

Subject: RE: [16horsepower] puur recordings?

I just looked on the Ultima Vez site and it looks as though the Blush film
will be available on DVD sometime in October as well.

Will be aired this Thursday on Mount Scopus radio, 23:00 Israel time, 22:00
Central European time and 13:00 California time.
There'll be plenty of music (by Woven Hand, 16 Horsepower and a few related
others) and of course, the interview I conducted with Mr. Edwards.
The interview is in English, but the (little) talking I'll do will be in
Hebrew.
For a direct listen: http://132.64.204.91:8000/listen.pls (requires winamp).
The radio site is at radio.huji.ac.il
Thanks

i didn't like the evangelicals. i don't think much of anyone did at the
portland show because i saw people streaming into the bar and back
outside. i didn;t care much for the explanation of that last song
either. it actually made me profoundly uncomfortable (even moreso then
their incredibly, PAINFULLY high volume did...). i don't object to
words for body parts.
i might have found it jr. highschool funny in any other situation, but
it was such bad jusgment to do that just before woven hand. maybe they
hadn't even HEARD woven hand, since that was the first show on the
tour.
my friend and i did catch DEE in a donut shop in portland where they
sell donuts shaped like penises. some of the other band members were
trying to get him to buy one and he laughed and said "i ain't eatin' no
cock and balls". and he left when someone actually ordered one.
HAHAHHAHAA.

i can't figure out why wove hand is on tour with these other bands.
what i saw of serena maneesh (i was one of the many people who pretty
much split after DEE. it would have ruined the mood to stay) wasn't a
horrible strech to pair woven and with, but in combination with the
evengelicals, it's just plain bizzare. the sun the sea was the first
opener in portland and they were quite good actually. just not.... fitting.

----- Original Message -----

From: Todd Brown

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 2:10 AM

Subject: RE: [16horsepower] Re: puur recordings?

It's not listed on the Glitterhouse page yet, but you can order it directly
from Ultima Vez...

It's not listed on the Glitterhouse page yet, but you can order it directly
from Ultima Vez.  www.ultimavez.com

Todd.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: thedirtyfeetcollective [mailto:thedirtyfeetcollective@...]
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:22 PM
> To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [16horsepower] Re: puur recordings?
>
> hey,
> thanks for the info.  i just went to the glitterhouse page and typed in
> woven hand in the
> search engine but couldn't find puur listed.  do you know where on their
> page it is?  also,
> has anyone heard it?  what's it like?
>
> thanks,
> allan
>

Though DEE didn't make the trip north I caught Serena Maneesh and The
Evangelicals when they were in Toronto last week.  Serena was amazing, The
Evangelicals were entirely a one trick pony that wore thin very, very
quickly.  Lead guy can't play his instrument, has that one vocal hitch he
falls into constantly, everything's at the same tempo and in the same key,
and he's nowhere close to half as clever as he'd like to be.  So, no, not a
fan of The Evangelicals at all.

There are some indirect ties between Serena Maneesh and Woven Hand, mostly
thanks to Daniel Smith who played on the Serena record and produced an
earlier band (Royal) that Serena's front man used to have.  Emil (Serena's
front man) has some sort of tie to Dan's wife.  And Dan, of course, put out
the Woven Hand album.  Serena's a pretty big buzz band right now so while
the musical styles don't immediately gel it's a good chance to put David in
some packed rooms that wouldn't otherwise hear his music ...

Todd.

> left after david played.  also, it didn't seem like he really fit with the
> other bands.  it was
> strange seeing such intense, dark music at a show with pop bands.  i'm
> wondering about
> people's opinion of the evangelicals.  i thought that there music was
> pretty cheesey and
> there use of the smoke machine was a bit over the top.  i always try to be
> respectful
> though and give people a chance.  however, i felt that the explanation
> that the singer gave
> of the last song was quite offensive and actually put a damper on the
> whole show for me.
> i thought his remarks were quite transphobic and it seemed to make quite a
> few people
> uncomfortable.  you know it's band when even the security at the back of
> the room are
> making comments.

i was really excited to see woven hand and wondered why he isn't on a tour of
his own.  it
seemed like quite a few people were there just to see him because i noticed a
flood of us
left after david played.  also, it didn't seem like he really fit with the other
bands.  it was
strange seeing such intense, dark music at a show with pop bands.  i'm wondering
about
people's opinion of the evangelicals.  i thought that there music was pretty
cheesey and
there use of the smoke machine was a bit over the top.  i always try to be
respectful
though and give people a chance.  however, i felt that the explanation that the
singer gave
of the last song was quite offensive and actually put a damper on the whole show
for me.
i thought his remarks were quite transphobic and it seemed to make quite a few
people
uncomfortable.  you know it's band when even the security at the back of the
room are
making comments.





--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, Euchrid <sainteuchrid@...> wrote:
>
> agreed. and i just couldn't stay to hear the main act because how do
> you follow woven hand with anything? it just ain't right!
>
> portland was even more intense:
> "i love my lord jesus above everything/i love him more than madness/i
> love him more than sweet sweet sadness"
>
> the past 2 days have floored me totally.
>

a whistling girl is always a bad omen, particularly on board a ship.

thimble!





--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "spirit stiff" <fenfenfen@...> wrote:
>
> with Mosaic's release, finally having it and enjoying it immensely, ive
> wondered about the lyrics, and his choice of quotes at times...
>
> for reference:  http://www.16horsepower.com/lyrics.html#whmosaic
>
> SwedishPurse...referencing folk magic?
> Twig...the lord's to have mercy on the morning star?
> DirtyBlue...numerology, string theory?
> DeerskinDoll...the circle, more referencing to magic in general, a
> protection?
> of course he ends with "I hear a mocking voice" in Deerskin.  rest
assured
> im not mocking, but sincerely asking.  ive read/seen different
interviews
> where he's asked about the lyrics/references, but these newer lyrics
seem to
> go further.
> anyone else?
>
> j.
>

the last time i saw woven hand was last year 2005 august in philadelphia.
it was just david and a someone on drums (sorry i'm bad with names).
it was the most intense show i have ever seen. last night was just
david (for some reason i thought he was going to have 2 people play
with him) and it was great but as i figured being an opening slot,
just when i started to get wrapped into the mood it was over. in fact
it felt like it ended short but i'm not sure about that.

i highly recommend checking out the shows. also if you are interested
in knowing there are (2) woven hand shirts for sale at $15 each,
buttons, cds (mosaic & consider the birds) and a poster for consider the birds.

i'm looking forward to the l.a. show but i didn't stick around for the
main band either.

-shyam.