The Woven Hand page on My Space has posted Spring tour dates, Denver and a
handful of West Coast shows. The "official" WovenHand.net page has nothing
posted since the last shows.

Is there anybody "in the know" who can shed some light on the live lineup?
Will I get to see the band this time or DEE solo? No complaints either way
from me, 2 shows in LA!

02/24/2007 09:00 PM - The Oriental Theater
4335 W. 44th ave., Denver, 80212 - $10/$12

Support band: BLUEBOOK
http://www.theorientaltheater.com
03/31/2007 09:00 PM - Doug Fir Lounge
830 E. Burnside, Portland, Oregon 97214 -

co-headline w/ Calla
04/01/2007 09:00 PM - Nightlight
211 E. Chesnut St., Bellingham, Washington -

04/02/2007 09:00 PM - Triple Door
216 Union St, Seattle, Washington 98101 -

04/04/2007 09:00 PM - 12 galaxies
2565 Mission St., San Francisco, California -

04/05/2007 09:00 PM - Stanford University
, Palo Alto, California -

04/10/2007 09:00 PM - Silverlake Lounge
2906 Sunset Blvd., Los Angeles, California -

04/11/2007 09:00 PM - Silverlake Lounge
2906 Sunset blvd., Los Angeles, California -

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "supersnakebait" <esphov@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> It`s been quiet (for a change) with updates on DEE/WH. Anyone knows
> about plans for 2007?
>
> cheers
>

There are rumors of a 7", but that is all I have heard.

Hi all,

It`s been quiet (for a change) with updates on DEE/WH. Anyone knows
about plans for 2007?

cheers

----- Original Message -----

From: travispgraham

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 5:40 PM

Subject: [16horsepower] Looking for audio rips of the live DVD.

Does anyone have a high quality audio rip of the music on the latest
live DVD release?  I would love to have it on my iPod. 

Does anyone have a high quality audio rip of the music on the latest
live DVD release?  I would love to have it on my iPod.

I think that all the US shows were all solo. I know that here in LA it was
solo. Having not seen DEE since 16HP was last here maybe 5-6 years ago, I
was quite content with the solo show. He had lots of samples of droning
instruments that he switched on between songs, as intros and sometimes
filling out a song in the background. I wanted to get right up front and
at this particular club, you have to decide if you want to get a close up
view or do you want good sound because the PA speakers are up above and
just past the edge of the stage so the sound goes right over your head. We
basically got a lot of guitar and David's vocals off in the background,
which was very dissapointing. But the view was great! I've never seen a
singer expel that much saliva before!
Maybe next tour we'll get the full band, or we can travel to Denver I
guess.

  --- Pusstiny@... wrote:

> Am I slow or what. So, the shows DEE did here in the states, solo....was
> that
> it for US? Will he be playing with the boys here, after touring in
> Europe?
>
> Signed ~ Dazed and Confused
>

----- Original Message -----

From: supersnakebait

To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:56 PM

Subject: [16horsepower] Re: European Tour, fall 2006

I saw Woven Hand the other day in Norway. The gig was of course great,
but having seen WH a good number of times now, I truly miss having a
piano or synth or something. I also still would like to have som 16HP-
stuff on the setlist. On this gig, they only played songs from "Mosaic"
and "Consider The Birds". Not one from the debutalbum. The gig was also
a bit shortended because of the two support acts playing too long.

But hey, of course it was truly golden anyway, and I can`t wait to
have`em back.

cheers

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--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "supersnakebait" <esphov@...> wrote:
> I saw Woven Hand the other day in Norway. The gig was of course great,
> but having seen WH a good number of times now, I truly miss having a
> piano or synth or something. I also still would like to have som 16HP-
> stuff on the setlist. On this gig, they only played songs from "Mosaic"
> and "Consider The Birds". Not one from the debutalbum. The gig was also
> a bit shortended because of the two support acts playing too long.

Well, the concert ended with massive versions of My Russia and Your
Russia, maybe those versions were closer to the ones on Blush Music, I
don't know, but that's songs from the debut album ... :) They did play
1 hour and 55 minutes or so, so I wouldn't call it very shortened. And
also there was at least a one 16 HP songs: DEE solo on a long version
of Black Soul Choir, and I thought there also was another one, but I
don't recall which one ... A couple of less massive songs with some
piano would be nice, but all in all a very good concert. (I was also
actually positively suprised by the support act, The Violent Years. I
liked their songs ... I wasn't aware of _two_ support acts ....)

--
flips

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "Lutz Mastmeyer" <lutz@...> wrote:
> Believe it or not, Jean-Yves is -although different in his drumming
> style- as powerful as Ordy is. I would not say either one is better
> than the other, but they're both amongst the best drummers I've ever
> seen on stage, and I've seen very many.

The concert in Oslo last night was very good -- and the drummer was
excellent. And the concert ended with My Russia and Your Russia! Yay!
... just my first reaction! :)

--
flips

seriously. jean-yves is one of my favorite drummers. he's so good at
weird, intricate stuff. it doesn't quite register at first, but once
you catch on, he's pretty amazing. i can't imagine him playing drums
for woven hand though. the style is too different. maybe he could pull
it off, i don't know. but ordy is MORE than servicable. i love how
everyone in denver has been in everybody else's band at some point.
HAHA.

>>>> Hi Omri,

Believe it or not, Jean-Yves is -although different in his drumming
style- as powerful as Ordy is. I would not say either one is better
than the other, but they're both amongst the best drummers I've ever
seen on stage, and I've seen very many.

Best wishes
Lutz

Hi Lutz, thanks for the reply.
I'd love to see Jean-Yves drumming live and make up my own mind :)
The interview I did with DEE a few months ago has been transcribed and is on
an online music magazine, that is mostly in Hebrew, but the interview itself
remained in English:
http://www.hasharat.co.il/html/mag15sec942.php

Plus, there is a steady link where you can download the radio show itself,
in so-so sound quality:
http://msradio.huji.ac.il/AddDocuments/listen/Musiachla%20with%20David%20Eugene%\
20Edwards%2048k.mp3

Replies would be appreciated,
Thanks
Omri



>From: "Lutz Mastmeyer" <lutz@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: <16horsepower@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: AW: [16horsepower] Re: European Tour, fall 2006
>Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 10:14:47 +0100
>
>Hi Omri,
>
>Believe it or not, Jean-Yves is -although different in his drumming style-
>as powerful as Ordy is. I would not say either one is better than the
>other, but they're both amongst the best drummers I've ever seen on stage,
>and I've seen very many.
>
>Best wishes
>Lutz
>

I saw Woven Hand the other day in Norway. The gig was of course great,
but having seen WH a good number of times now, I truly miss having a
piano or synth or something. I also still would like to have som 16HP-
stuff on the setlist. On this gig, they only played songs from "Mosaic"
and "Consider The Birds". Not one from the debutalbum. The gig was also
a bit shortended because of the two support acts playing too long.

But hey, of course it was truly golden anyway, and I can`t wait to
have`em back.

cheers

Hi Omri,

Believe it or not, Jean-Yves is -although different in his drumming style- as
powerful as Ordy is. I would not say either one is better than the other, but
they're both amongst the best drummers I've ever seen on stage, and I've seen
very many.

Best wishes
Lutz

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Auftrag von Quite The Charmer
Gesendet: Samstag, 2. Dezember 2006 14:12
An: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: RE: [16horsepower] Re: European Tour, fall 2006

About the equality between WH and 16HP: I personally prefer WH. I think DEE is
getting better and better at what he does, and if we do choose to do the
seperation between WH and 16HP, it would make sense that WH is better.
Personally, I don't connect that much with S&A nor with Low Estate, and so I am
basically left with 2 16HP albums that I really love (not considering Hoarse or
Olden). On the other hand, each and every WH album (including the Ultima Vez
related ones) is spectacular and emotional, quite often genius in my opinion.
Plus, though I've never seen 16HP live, I seriously doubt it if Jean Yves Toula
could be as powerful as Ordy was at the Brussels show. Damn, that was some fine
drumming! Not only was it powerful, it was also very impressive technically and
showed that he has a wonderful ear and a unique touch that really adds and
connects with DEE's compositions and live intensity.
By the way, anyone has any idea about how they reherse for the live shows, since
they come from 3 diffrent countries. Seems like it would be really hard, yet
they gel together so well!
Thanks
Omri


>From: Euchrid <sainteuchrid@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [16horsepower] Re: European Tour, fall 2006
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:05:07 -0800 (PST)
>
>agreed. i never saw 16hp live (HOW SAD FOR ME OH DEAR! but i've heard a
>ton of bootlegs), but its very true that woven hand is not a substiture
>in any way all. i consider it a continuation, and actually considerably
>more powerful as a whole. there's a lot to say for the conviction in
>the 16hp lyrics, but woven hand really steps it up. the same goes for
>the music itself. obviously, the style is a bit different (though
>'praying arm lane' or any number of tracks off 'folklore' could be
>woven hand songs), but i think woven hand is more on the epic side. not
>even more most driving 16hp song could beat 'your russia (without
>hands)'.
>but i love them both equally and i think they're both equally GOOD
>technically, and other. and ona  more personal level, i love them both
>equally for the lyrical content and they both play off different
>aspects of what i believe.



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About the equality between WH and 16HP: I personally prefer WH. I think DEE
is getting better and better at what he does, and if we do choose to do the
seperation between WH and 16HP, it would make sense that WH is better.
Personally, I don't connect that much with S&A nor with Low Estate, and so I
am basically left with 2 16HP albums that I really love (not considering
Hoarse or Olden). On the other hand, each and every WH album (including the
Ultima Vez related ones) is spectacular and emotional, quite often genius in
my opinion.
Plus, though I've never seen 16HP live, I seriously doubt it if Jean Yves
Toula could be as powerful as Ordy was at the Brussels show. Damn, that was
some fine drumming! Not only was it powerful, it was also very impressive
technically and showed that he has a wonderful ear and a unique touch that
really adds and connects with DEE's compositions and live intensity.
By the way, anyone has any idea about how they reherse for the live shows,
since they come from 3 diffrent countries. Seems like it would be really
hard, yet they gel together so well!
Thanks
Omri


>From: Euchrid <sainteuchrid@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [16horsepower] Re: European Tour, fall 2006
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:05:07 -0800 (PST)
>
>agreed. i never saw 16hp live (HOW SAD FOR ME OH DEAR! but i've heard a
>ton of bootlegs), but its very true that woven hand is not a substiture
>in any way all. i consider it a continuation, and actually considerably
>more powerful as a whole. there's a lot to say for the conviction in
>the 16hp lyrics, but woven hand really steps it up. the same goes for
>the music itself. obviously, the style is a bit different (though
>'praying arm lane' or any number of tracks off 'folklore' could be
>woven hand songs), but i think woven hand is more on the epic side. not
>even more most driving 16hp song could beat 'your russia (without
>hands)'.
>but i love them both equally and i think they're both equally GOOD
>technically, and other. and ona  more personal level, i love them both
>equally for the lyrical content and they both play off different
>aspects of what i believe.

agreed. i never saw 16hp live (HOW SAD FOR ME OH DEAR! but i've heard a
ton of bootlegs), but its very true that woven hand is not a substiture
in any way all. i consider it a continuation, and actually considerably
more powerful as a whole. there's a lot to say for the conviction in
the 16hp lyrics, but woven hand really steps it up. the same goes for
the music itself. obviously, the style is a bit different (though
'praying arm lane' or any number of tracks off 'folklore' could be
woven hand songs), but i think woven hand is more on the epic side. not
even more most driving 16hp song could beat 'your russia (without
hands)'.
but i love them both equally and i think they're both equally GOOD
technically, and other. and ona  more personal level, i love them both
equally for the lyrical content and they both play off different
aspects of what i believe.



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I came to Belgium especially to see this show, and it was worth every
second/Euro. I have no frame of refrence Woven Hand wise, but for me it was
by far the best show I've ever seen. If anyone cares to correspon further
about this show I'd be happy.


>From: "A.S." <dunringill@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: <16horsepower@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [16horsepower] Re: European Tour, fall 2006
>Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:43:22 +0100
>
>Klaatu Barada!
>
>At Bruxelles Woven Hand performed a brandnew song!
>
>They opened the show with "Sign of the Zodiac" - it's a cover-version from
>Rasputina!
>
>Take care,
>
>Alex

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Hi everybody,

I have uploaded some photos I took during the concert in Deventer,
Holland. They are not my best cause I took them with my left hand
since I broke my right arm 2 weeks ago.

The photos are in the Files section.

Sandor

actually, king, i agree with you....but i think scrawled and thin makes
perfect sense.  the song is "scrawled in sap"...and well, david is
rather...thin.

it's a very poetic image.




----Original Message Follows----
From: "Courtney King" <cking@...>
Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
To: <16horsepower@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [16horsepower] Re: scrawled in sap lyrics
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 09:01:38 -0600

It's funny how everyone hears something different.  I always thought the
part you referred to was "white hips sway" and "I am yours...lady,
scrawled and thin"  (granted, scrawled and thin doesn't make much sense)
I too love this song, it's one of the best songs ever!

Courtney

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From: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com [mailto:16horsepower@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of captainboycrusher
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:05 PM
To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [16horsepower] Re: scrawled in sap lyrics



I always thought it was.. "wide hip sway".. and "I am yours..lady
strong and thin".. and "in my wedding dress" (meaning dressed for a
wedding not an actual dress)... I love this song so much

Hope all is well
~*Jess*~

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On that part of the song I hear the same words as Courtney.

Diron

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "Courtney King" <cking@...>
wrote:
>
> It's funny how everyone hears something different.  I always
thought the
> part you referred to was "white hips sway" and "I am yours...lady,
> scrawled and thin"  (granted, scrawled and thin doesn't make much
sense)
> I too love this song, it's one of the best songs ever!
>
> Courtney
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:16horsepower@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of captainboycrusher
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:05 PM
> To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [16horsepower] Re: scrawled in sap lyrics
>
>
>
> I always thought it was.. "wide hip sway".. and "I am yours..lady
> strong and thin".. and "in my wedding dress" (meaning dressed for
a
> wedding not an actual dress)... I love this song so much
>
> Hope all is well
> ~*Jess*~
>
> http://myspace.com/trouble007 <http://myspace.com/trouble007>
>

I'm sure I do, let me mess w/ it and I'll get back to
y'all;)...I still think 'Horse Head' rocks the
house...speaking of...what does he say at the very end
of Horse Head anyway???...and what are the alternate
lyrics on 'I Seen what...on Olden???  anybody???

--- joshua star <mckat2000@...> wrote:

> perhaps if anybody's got a live version of the
> song...that could give us a
> better idea...
>
> anyone anyone?
>
>
>

Thanks for the update, Alex

Setlist looks quite similar to the summer-tour setlist. I still
think they should make space for one or two 16HP-songs...

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "A.S." <dunringill@...> wrote:
>
> Klaatu Barada!
>
> I'm just back from Salzburg - the concert was amazing!
>
> The setlist:
>
> Winter Shaker
> Speaking Hands
> Elktooth
> Into the Piano (DEE solo)
> Sparrow falls
> Dirty Blue
> Whistling Girl
> Slota Prow-Full Armour
> Truly Golden
> White Bird
> Deerskin Doll
> Phyllis Ann (with some "Swedish Purse"-Lyrics)
> Down in yon Forest (Intro)/Tin Finger
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Chest of Drawers (DEE solo)
> Your Russia
> -------------------------------------------------------
> Outlaw Song (DEE solo)
> Strawfoot (DEE solo)