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#464 From: "sixteenhp_webmaster" <hcmyers@...>
Date: Tue May 3, 2005 3:26 am
Subject: Blush film
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BLUSH a film by WIM VANDEKEYBUS

Written & directed by Wim Vandekeybus Photography Lieven Van Baelen
Editing Dieter Diependaele
Produced by Bart Van Langendonck, Emilie Blézat, Ellen De Waele
Coproduction CCCP (Brussels), Sciapode (Paris), Ultima Vez (Brussels)
With the support of het Vlaams Audiovisueel Fonds (VAF), le Centre
National de la Cinématographie (CNC), Le Fresnoy – Studio
national des
arts contemporains, ADAMI, Collectivité Territoriale de Corse &
France
3 Corse
Duration 52 minutes – trailer : www.cccp.be/gallery/blush


PREMIÈRE 23/01/2005 . 7pm & 8.30pm . KVS Brussels (BE)
29/01/2005 . 8pm . de NACHTEN . deSingel Antwerp (BE) (+Woven Hand
concert at 0.30am)
Tickets www.denachten.be . FNAC T 0900 00600 . deSingel T +32 3 248
28 28
8/02/2005 . 8.30pm . Vidéodanse . Centre Pompidou Paris (FR)
Tickets www.cnac-gp.fr
9/02/2005 . C.C. De Doos Hasselt (BE)
Tickets www.cchasselt.be . T +32 11 22 99 33
11/02/2005 . 5.30pm . Théâtre de la Ville Paris (FR)
Tickets www.theatredelaville-paris.com . T. +33 1 42 74 22 77
11/02/2005 . 8.15pm . TAMTAM . Stadsschouwburg Amsterdam (NL)
Tickets www.toneelgroepamsterdam.nl . T +31 20 624 23 11
13/02/2005 . 12.05pm & 19/02/2005 . 2.15pm . Vidéodanse . Centre
Pompidou Paris (FR)
Tickets www.cnac-gp.fr
23-30/03/2005 . Cinema ZED, Leuven (BE)
Tickets www.cinemazed.be
6/03/2005 . 8pm . Filmfestival De Kortste Nachten ccBe Antwerp (BE)
Tickets www.dekortstenachten.be
10-20/03/2005 . FIFA, Montreal (CA)
Tickets www.artfifa.com
14/04/2005 . 6pm . Festival Côté Court de Pantin .
Compétition
expérimental – essai – art vidéo . Ciné 104 Pantin
(FR)
Tickets www.cotecourt.org
23-24/04/2005 . 8pm . Festival NEMO . Sélection Désir &
Erotisme .
Mains d'Uvres
Tickets www.arcadi.fr
30/04 – 22/04/2005 . Dashanzi Int'l Art Festival, Beijing .
http://diaf.vip.myrice.com/
14/05/2005 . 11am & 8pm . Festival de Cannes – Sélection ACID
www.lacid.org
16 – 21/05/2005 . Vidéodanse . Musée d'Art Moderne de
Bogota, Colombie.
19/05/2005 . Cinema 8/70 Autostadt , Wolfsburg (DE)
2 – 7/06/2005 . Festival de Moyen Métrage de Brives (FR) .
competition
www.srf-moyenmetrageabrive.com/
1-19/06/2005 . Festival Dança em Pauto, Rio de Janeiro (BR)
14-19/06/2005 . IMZ Dance Screen, Brighton (UK) . www.imz.at
24/06/2005 . Sommerszene Salzburg (AT)
Tickets www.szene-salzburg.net
15/06 – 22/06/2005 . Cartoon's, Antwerpen (BE)

#463 From: "andy" <andy16hp@...>
Date: Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:08 pm
Subject: Re: london show
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hi thks all..like i said i had one ticket already.. friend's now
ordered..i just panicked lol.. seen them/him many times,still feel
like a kid at christmas waiting for next week :0)andy



--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, George Andreou
<bugsonglass@y...> wrote:
>
> andy
>
> you can get tickets for the show on thewayahead online boxoffice.
can't remember whether it's .net or .co.uk or what but you should
find it easlily by searching.
>
> and remember to search under david edwards, it's NOT listed as a
woven hand gig.
>
> hope this helps.
>
> george
>
> andy <andy16hp@a...> wrote:
>
> hi,i have a ticket for the london show on the 5/5..i was hoping to
> get
> one more for a friend ..but the show's not on the boarderline
> webpage,
> as it been canceled or just sold out??
>
> i will try and get through to the venue monday there shut
> today,ticket
> master 24hr number say they have no info for gig..if anyone as any
> news
> be great..
>
> andy

#462 From: George Andreou <bugsonglass@...>
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: london show
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andy

you can get tickets for the show on thewayahead online boxoffice.  can't
remember whether it's .net or .co.uk or what but you should find it easlily by
searching.

and remember to search under david edwards, it's NOT listed as a woven hand gig.

hope this helps.

george

andy <andy16hp@...> wrote:

hi,i have a ticket for the london show on the 5/5..i was hoping to
get
one more for a friend ..but the show's not on the boarderline
webpage,
as it been canceled or just sold out??

i will try and get through to the venue monday there shut
today,ticket
master 24hr number say they have no info for gig..if anyone as any
news
be great..

andy

#461 From: Marga Taris <me.taris@...>
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: london show
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Hi Andy,

The show was never mentioned on the borderline webpage for some reason, but it's
certainly going to happen.
You can buy tickets from:
http://www.seetickets.com/meanfiddler/price.asp?filler1=mfiddler&code=140723
they'll even post them to your address.

more info @:
http://meanfiddler.lggmedia.com/info.asp?id=1119975

Marga T.

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: andy
   To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 1:09 PM
   Subject: [16horsepower] london show



   hi,i have a ticket for the london show on the 5/5..i was hoping to
   get one more for a friend ..but the show's not on the boarderline
   webpage, as it been canceled or just sold out??

#460 From: "andy" <andy16hp@...>
Date: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:09 am
Subject: london show
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hi,i have a ticket for the london show on the 5/5..i was hoping to
get
one more for a friend ..but the show's not on the boarderline
webpage,
as it been canceled or just sold out??

i will try and get through to the venue monday there shut
today,ticket
master 24hr number say they have no info for gig..if anyone as any
news
be great..

andy

#459 From: "sixteenhp_webmaster" <hcmyers@...>
Date: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:02 am
Subject: May Woven Hand tour
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"this upcoming tour, david will be joined by
ordy garrison on drums, and new belgian
addition, peter van laerhoven on guitar!"

#458 From: "Shari York Stowell" <sstowell@...>
Date: Mon Apr 18, 2005 1:22 am
Subject: Fw: WOVEN HAND NEWS
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----- Original Message -----
From: family@...
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Subject: WOVEN HAND NEWS


> Hi Friends,
>
> For ALL of you who have been waiting, A WovenHand US tour is in the works.
> We only have one confirmed date so far: Friday, July 1st @ Schubas in
> Chicago.  We hope to announce other dates (for later in July) soon.
>
> Also, some important news concerning 16 Horsepower is available at:
> http://www.16horsepower.net/news/band/120/
>
> Thanks!
>

#457 From: mistersmooch@...
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:36 pm
Subject: denver gentlemen
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the Denver Gentlemen CD is now available for sale at smoochrecords.com
i have to add my best friend from high school is on the cover of the record.

also now posted on the site is a live version of 'This Is How We Do Things In
The Country' from the upcoming live album by Slim Cessna's Auto Club.

hopefully some clips from the 16HP DVD will also be added to the site soon.

coming soon:
Lilium 'Transmission of All the Good-Byes' CD
Lilium 'Short Stories' CD&DVD audio


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#456 From: "calexicano" <Buiten.Lander@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: Show in Luxembourg
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Oooops, I overlooked that L in front of the date. Thanks for
pointing it out.  Unfortunately, the date is a bit unfortunate for
me, though it would be nice to see one gig in Luxembourg.

Best wishes

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "Jessica Thyrion"
<jessicathyrion@h...> wrote:

> Wovenhand - Kukturfabrik, Esch sur Alzette, 3 rd May !
>
> >From: "calexicano" <Buiten.Lander@w...>
> >Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
> >To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [16horsepower] Re: Show in Luxembourg
> >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 03:34:56 -0000
> >
> >
> >
> >Who's playing?
> >
> >--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "bucketjess"
> ><jessicathyrion@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does some go to this show ?

#455 From: "Jessica Thyrion" <jessicathyrion@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:49 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Show in Luxembourg
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Wovenhand - Kukturfabrik, Esch sur Alzette, 3 rd May !

>From: "calexicano" <Buiten.Lander@...>
>Reply-To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>To: 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [16horsepower] Re: Show in Luxembourg
>Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 03:34:56 -0000
>
>
>
>Who's playing?
>
>--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "bucketjess"
><jessicathyrion@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Does some go to this show ?
>
>
>
>
>
>

#454 From: "calexicano" <Buiten.Lander@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:34 am
Subject: Re: Show in Luxembourg
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Who's playing?

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "bucketjess"
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>
> Does some go to this show ?

#453 From: "sixteenhp_webmaster" <hcmyers@...>
Date: Wed Apr 13, 2005 2:10 am
Subject: Benefit show
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habitat for humanity fund raiser !
featuring:
david eugene edwards w/
young monarch & dan craig
friday, april 15th, 7:00 pm
at the rock house
6560 s. broadway
littleton, co.
$5 donation suggested

#452 From: "bucketjess" <jessicathyrion@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 7:20 pm
Subject: Show in Luxembourg
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Does some go to this show ?

#451 From: "sixteenhp_webmaster" <hcmyers@...>
Date: Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: Confirmed show
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More confirmed Woven Hand European dates below.  There will be more
U.S. dates (East Coast) in July.  Details will follow as the shows
are confirmed.

WOVEN HAND FEAT. DAVID EUGENE EDWARDS
30.4. B-De Panne, "Dranouter aan zee"
01.5. NL-Den Haag, Paard van Troje
02.5. D-Bonn, Harmonie
03.5. L-Esch sur Alzette, Kulturfabrik
05.5. UK-London, Borderline
08.5. NL-Tilburg, 013
09.5. B-Brussels, Les Nuits Botanique, Cirque Royal
15.8. H-Budapest, SZIGET Festival

#450 From: "sixteenhp_webmaster" <hcmyers@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:19 pm
Subject: Re: Links
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--- janis glotkowski <redhotcoopgirl@y...> wrote:
> thanks....can you please repost the myspace and live journal
> addresses for 16HP?? I'm having trouble finding either....

Added both to the links section:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/16horsepower/links

#449 From: janis glotkowski <redhotcoopgirl@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: Confirmed show
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thanks....can you please repost the myspace and live journal addresses for
16HP?? I'm having trouble finding either....

thank you,
Ruby

sixteenhp_webmaster <hcmyers@...> wrote:

Woven Hand
Schubas
http://www.schubas.com
Chicago, IL
July 1st





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#448 From: "sixteenhp_webmaster" <hcmyers@...>
Date: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:47 pm
Subject: Confirmed show
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Woven Hand
Schubas
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Chicago, IL
July 1st

#447 From: "Linds" <PonyJasper@...>
Date: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:29 pm
Subject: Re: 0 Horsepower
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???
Weird question.
I doubt this group or its name is going anywhere...
Linds.


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: calexicano
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   Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 8:45 PM
   Subject: [16horsepower] 0 Horsepower



   This makes me wondering, how do you forsee this group in the future
   if 16 Horsepower equals 0 (zero, zilch) horsepower? Will you change
   the name? Delete the group?

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#446 From: "calexicano" <Buiten.Lander@...>
Date: Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:45 am
Subject: 0 Horsepower
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This makes me wondering, how do you forsee this group in the future
if 16 Horsepower equals 0 (zero, zilch) horsepower? Will you change
the name? Delete the group?

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, "sixteenhp_webmaster"
<hcmyers@1...> wrote:

> Not that I want anyone to abandon this group, but I
> know that different people enjoy different fan community formats.

#445 From: "sixteenhp_webmaster" <hcmyers@...>
Date: Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:36 am
Subject: Re: 16 hp MySpace group
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--- stephen guidry <exraystar@a...> wrote:
> I've started up a group for 16 Horsepower over at MySpace.  This isn't
> to undermine Heather's marvelous work, of course.

No problem.  For those of you on Livejournal there's a 16HP community
over there too.  Not that I want anyone to abandon this group, but I
know that different people enjoy different fan community formats.

#444 From: "David J. Cervantes" <gator77da@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005 3:27 pm
Subject: long live 16hp, indeed . . .
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That was exactly what I thought when I learned this sad news yesterday.

I started to get aquainted with the tunage of 16hp around this time
five years ago.  I've been really listening to them A LOT over the
last three years.  Some bands/artists/CDs lose their luster after a
time, but this band's music just never gets old to me.  I've checked
the concerts page frequently to see of maybe they might play within a
day's drive of Atlanta, but to no avail.  I have memory of the great
show at the Cotton Club in 2000 as my only live experience.  It was
great, but I'd hoped to see them again now that I'm quite familiar
with the songs.

Fortunately for us, DEE will continue putting out quality music in
other forms, so we will have that at least.


David J. Cervantes

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> 16 Horsepower is dead, long live 16 Horsepower!
>
> [stephen]

#443 From: stephen guidry <exraystar@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005 2:35 pm
Subject: 16 hp MySpace group
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Alrighty, folks.

I've started up a group for 16 Horsepower over at MySpace.  This isn't
to undermine Heather's marvelous work, of course.

http://groups.myspace.com/16horsepower

Join up, if'n you want.

People who complain about the way other people react to the demise of
the band will not be appreciated.

16 Horsepower is dead, long live 16 Horsepower!

[stephen]

#442 From: "calexicano" <Buiten.Lander@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005 11:37 am
Subject: Re: writing on the wall
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So who could it be?

--- In 16horsepower@yahoogroups.com, George Andreou <bugsonglass@y...>
wrote:

I wish them all well, but i can't help feeling i know who's
responsible for this.

#441 From: "michael_vandenbosch" <gmrhessels@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005 12:55 pm
Subject: 16 HORSEPOWER IS NO MORE
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Yesterday evening i was reading the music news on dutch television
when i read an article about 16HP. I was shocked to learn that they
announced their ending. Because of political and spiritual
differences.Is this the reason that david started WOVEN HAND a few
years ago?. Because he divided his time between 16HP and W.H. A lot of
questions are left for me. I was allready looking forward to the next
16HP album. But sorry;NO MORE!. Mayby they have some things left that
they haddent released yet,you never know. At least i was happy to hear
that they will go on with WOVEN HAND and LILLIUM. Now with more time
he could start a new project? Well the future time will learn what
will happen. For now their DVD is the farewell present to us. The band
gave me a lot of great music that i will play for the years to come.
And the memory,s of the concerts i seen will stay with me forever. I
would like to thank them for all they gave me.
with lots of love from MICHAEL VAN DEN BOSCH NETHERLANDS.

#440 From: "Don Wojcik" <don_wojcik@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005 1:25 am
Subject: "All good things must..."
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Greetings....

As a form of self-therapy, I shall submit a dreaded post.... ;-)

But first, a ~sigh~

The hope....
I echo the thoughts of those being hopeful of the future with Lilium, Wovenhand,
or whatever else that stems from the 16HP seed.  Much potential.

The truth....
I must also be realistic by facing the fact that none of these offspring
projects will carry the energy, chemistry, and aura of the three boys known as
16 Horsepower.  I've seen enough Wovenhand shows to realize this.

The coincidence....
Two weeks ago, I *FINALLY* had an old 16HP concert announcement placard
professionally framed in glass and hung on my bedroom wall. The placard was from
my first 16HP show in 1996 at the Fox Theater in Boulder, Colorado.  
Unbeknownst to me,  that show turned out to be the figurative "bookends" of my
time with 16HP.

The irony....
The dark, haunting feel of one's spiritualism helped make the band great. 
Powerful.  Real.  ....but, it also [apparently] led to the band's demise.


Time to tip the whiskey glass....in honor of a great band and in honor of all
the great people that I've crossed paths with while following this
band....online, at shows, etc.  It's been a good 10 years!

Bottom's up,
Don



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#439 From: "lindsay moore" <PonyJasper@...>
Date: Fri Apr 8, 2005 11:08 pm
Subject: RE: THE BAD NEWS
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They gave us 12 awesome years of music, 9 of which I have been lucky enough
to be around for. 16 Horsepower is my favorite band, and while this is the
end of an era, I really do respect their decision. Sometimes it's just time
for things to be finished. This is one of those times.

I first heard 16HP when I was 16 years old, sitting in my
then-friend-now-husband's car facing downhill on S. Cole Street in Morrison,
CO (I can picture it pretty vividly). I remember thinking that they were
amazing and that they would change my life. The truth is really not far from
that. I'm thankful.

<3 Lindsay

#438 From: George Andreou <bugsonglass@...>
Date: Sat Apr 9, 2005 12:24 am
Subject: writing on the wall
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Greetings everyone

Just another email from another fan to say how sad i am.  Even though i had seen
this a long way coming and expressed this on this very mailing list, this is
still a huge blow.  It was pretty obvious for all to see this is where they were
heading... they recorded 'folklore' before the first woven hand but they didn't
release it because PH and JYT had had enough of touring and didn't want to play
live in support of it... Then they released the first demos... a sort of tying
of loose ends and bringing the band full circle... It was obvious that was the
end... Then a retrospective DVD if even more proof was needed.  This really
doesn't come as a surprise.

Only the news from glitterhouse that there'd be a brand new 16HP album out in
late spring seemed to give me unexpected hope.  maybe the signs were misleading
after all... but they weren't.  all hope now is that there is one final album of
brand new material to be released.  The greatest band that has ever been
deserves to go out with something more than a re-issue of their demos and a
retrospective dvd.  i sincerely hope we get to hear that.

I have to say i didn't appreciate the handful of people sending their RIP
messages.  No-one's died ok.  Just a group of musicians/friends going their
separate ways.  I wish them all well, but i can't help feeling i know who's
responsible for this.

I'm thankful for all 16HP have given me, the albums, the gigs, everything.  I
feel i am a better person because of their music.  A big thanks to David,
Jean-Yves, Keven Soll, Steven Taylor, Pascal, Bob Febrache and anyone else
involved.  Words cannot describe the magnitude and poignancy of your work.

George

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#437 From: belle connor <bellecares@...>
Date: Fri Apr 8, 2005 8:46 pm
Subject: Sixteen Horsepower
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I want to take this time to thank the band for the most amazing music. I also
would love to join a Myspace group if anyone does form one. Maybe this entire
yahoo group could be invited & I'd join for sure.

What wonderful music we all were able to share & love!! We have been blessed....
Thanks 16HP.

With Much Love, Belle

Asheville, NC



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#436 From: bobbywasabi@...
Date: Fri Apr 8, 2005 7:14 pm
Subject: I can't believe it...
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Not only am I deeply saddened by this news, but I'm feeling a bit resentful and
discouraged that one of the best live bands of all time spent the final 5 years
of their existence staying away from the West Coast, thus making it impossible
for me to see them.  I know this is a fairly self-centered comment, but I need
to express it.  I hope those of you in Europe took advantage of every
opportunity to see them...

I respect and understand their decision.  I know it must be hard for everyone
involved.  I'm also heartbroken that it's over.  I've almost never felt this way
about a band.  I'm a bit amazed that I feel this emotional...

done venting.  Thank you David, Jean-Yves, and Pascal for being one of the most
important musical groups of my life.

Bobby

#435 From: "Tom Chapman" <tom-chapman@...>
Date: Fri Apr 8, 2005 3:22 pm
Subject: RE: THE BAD NEWS
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Sad news indeed.  I first heard of them thru an article in World
Magazine (www.worldmag.com <http://www.worldmag.com/> ) years ago.  When
I finally heard them for the first time, I thought "this is the musical
version of Flannery O'Conner".  As a Christian, I appreciated their take
on how faith works out in life, with its ups and downs.  I appreciated
their blending of different musical styles into something that was
uniquely theirs.  While I know that DEE will still be doing solo stuff,
there is something about the passing of the band that is irreplaceable,
even in DEE's solo/Woven Hand stuff.

Tom


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