I have uploaded a Scandinavian bronze lyre bridge from Gotland to the photo section, It is very interesting, similar to the bone and amber ones yet having a...
... <michaeljking2007@...> wrote: Hi Michael, WOW! Thanks for that, it's all fantastic! The author of the pdf file has answered a lot of questions we've...
Hi there I've been following your conversation s about Anglo-Saxon and Norse lyres - fascinating, and terrifyingly well-informed! But I wondered if any of you...
Greetings! We've had a bit of discussion on this board about this very topic. If you do a search in the archives (try "tiompan"), a thread or two should come...
Hello, as far as I can tell that is all there is. I mention some about this here: http://earlygaelicharp.info/history/earlymed.htm click on the wee reference...
Thankyou, Keith and Simon, for your replies. Keith: is the 2nd century BCE example you mention the one from Paule Cotes D'Armor? I have a picture of this. It...
Dia dhaoibh! Yes, that's the one. Perhaps the bar you perceive is a strap? We should be careful since the carving is not particularly realistic. However, the...
RE: ">I'd be happy to share my ideas about how cruit and tiompan might have played together, but perhaps that's getting too far afield in a group for...
Hi all, Indeed there has been a series of related threads on the forum. Just type 'celtic lyre', 'cruit', 'crwth', and you'll find lots of material here about...
Hi Patrick, everybody- My concern about a reconstruction would be that the human figure is clearly stylized: swept back hair, torc on neck, prominent eyes....
Interesting- this reminds me of Ben Bagby's lyre, which has a bridge across the upper end of the instrument, just below the tuning pegs. I'm putting up a photo...
FYI, for those just joining us. re: BBBBB: His instrument was built by Rainer Thurau of Wiesbaden, based on remains unearthed from a 7th century grave at...
... here's Ann and Charlie Heymann's interpretation approximately: Dur-da-bla, Oak of two = neck and pillar Coir-cetharchuir, Four-angled music = soundbox with...
The Utrecht psalter shows a triangular-frame harp: "The Utrecht Psalter (Utrecht, Universiteitsbibliotheek, MS Bibl. Rhenotraiectinae I Nr 32.) is a ninth...
RE this comment: "Everything I've seen agrees that cruit came to mean the triangular harp as you suggest; but I do wonder if it may earlier have meant lyre,...
Hello all, Be ye warned, this is a long one. I agree that harps don't seem a likely development of the lyres. Simon, when you mention that lyres seem "younger...
Hi Keith, everybody, I agree the figure is quite stylized, and I also agree that the lyre he/she is holding is much more reminiscent of Latin/Greek types of ...
Crwth is not a Gaelic/Irish word, it's a Welsh word (Welsh being a Brythonic language, i.e. pertaining to a different family of Celtic languages than Irish)....
Forgive my ignorance, but as far as I am aware Welsh IS a gaelic language and the Welsh are Celts, aas are the Breton (thoes who hail from Brittainy). Irish,...
You are mostly right, but your use of the word "Gaelic" is off which led you to the wrong conclusion. The insular Celtic languages (ie, the Celtic languages of...
Hi Guys, I'm Charles from Oz, well straight into it. I like to cast metal, and was wondering if anyone has the dimensions of the Gotland bridge. I alloy my own...
Charles; A bronze bridge shouldn't make a tinny sound, even with steel strings... ... _________________________________________________________________ Now you...
As the significant operating feature of any bridge is that it transfers vibration better as it becomes stiffer, but absorbs vibration more as it's mass...
Hello, all. I'm currently working on translating portions of the Trossingen Archaeological Report (at least the portions on the Lyre itself...although if I can...
My major concern with the bronze bridge is all the extra mass, compared to a wood bridge. The greater mass will make it harder to get good volume. Remember...
Thinking about this, bronze and other metals are good conductors, this includes sound. When strike a piece of wood, the thicker it is, the more sound is...
Charles, (Hi) in lieu of the actual measurements I would allow the average gap of 4mm for the string spacings and scale up the rest. I don't expect the sound...
