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RE: [BBSBasses] Sudden Loss of lower range

Further on what Duane said, I believe over hydration in a situation where
you are straining the cords hastens the edema (swelling) in a basses cords.
Though we don't really risk the levels of hyponatremia that cause dramatic
physical effects, I used to get raging headaches late in the day at contests
and shows where I over hydrated. Recently, I have started hydrating
moderately and steadily rather than trying to guzzle gallons of water. To
keep my cords lubricated I use a spray called Entertainer's Secret.



I have had the same edema problem over the past year just during long
rehearsals. A wiser hydration habit and use of the spray has alleviated the
problem.



As for singing outdoors, I agree 100% that you have to trust your physical
sensations and muscle memory rather than your ears. David Jones, famous
vocal coach, reminds the singing professional that in the performance
setting one has to trust their muscle memory. www.voiceteacher.com
<http://www.voiceteacher.com/>



Cheers,

Paul Agnew

Bass - HotShots





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From: BBSBasses@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BBSBasses@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tim Lowrance
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 1:43 AM
To: BBSBasses@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [BBSBasses] Sudden Loss of lower range



OK, This is what I think.....

When singing outdoors, (I'm a bass and a Bass section leader) the biggest
problem basses have is the "low end" seems shallow out side because there is
nothing to bounce sound off of which is what we hear most of when we sing.
When you experience this, the reaction is to sing louder and hence you
over-sing with out knowing it.

Later when you were in the car trying out you voice, it was in an abused
state and the vocal folds were probably swollen causing them to be stiffer
than normal....no low end.

The next day everything was fine because the swelling had gone down.

The main thing to remember when you're singing outside is...don't rely on
your ears for sound. Rather rely on what your voice "feels like" when
singing indoors and sing that way regardless of the sound coming in your
ears. The same sound is there, it just doesn't sound the same.





Duane Johnson <johnsondp@...> wrote:
Last night, our chorus had an outdoor concert, in which my quartet sang
four numbers as well. We warmed up outdoors, then gave the performance
in a public park, with a decent sound system. All through the
performance, whether chorus or quartet, I had the feeling that my low
voice, with decent resonance, was just not there. Driving home,
checking with a pitch pipe, I found that I simply didn't have much
voice below a G, while I usually have a solid Eb, and usually vocalize
down to C. Thankfully, my voice seems to have returned to its normal
condition today.

I'm at a loss to explain the sudden loss of voice. Are there special
measures that singers should take when singing outdoors? I did the
usual drinking of lots of water ahead of time, etc.

Duane Johnson
Hoosier Gentry and Summit City Chorus


PS- This bass list has been inactive for sometime now. I think it needs
to be reenergized.




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Tim Lowrance
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Fort Worth Chapter - Barbershop Harmony Society
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VP Music - 2005
Bass Section Leader
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Last night, our chorus had an outdoor concert, in which my quartet sang four numbers as well. We warmed up outdoors, then gave the performance in a public...
Duane Johnson
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OK, This is what I think..... When singing outdoors, (I'm a bass and a Bass section leader) the biggest problem basses have is the "low end" seems shallow out...
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Further on what Duane said, I believe over hydration in a situation where you are straining the cords hastens the edema (swelling) in a basses cords. Though we...
Paul Agnew
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At the risk of being an email nuisance. I would like to give some value back to you and pass on the benefit of experience in the UK on recruitment - some ...
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Hi from the UK I have been singing "Rock around the clock" and have to get to a low C. The only way I can do this so as to be heard is to sing it very...
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Further to my last email. I have attached a small mp3 file just to see if it works. Richard TVC [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Good Afternoon Richard, You won't be able to attach a file, but you can to the BBSBasses website and upload a file to the server. That's the best way to get...
Paul Agnew
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Thanks. I will find something useful to try out. (When someone writes what a great note they can sing off the end of the keyboard, we can ask them to send in ...
Richard Leathem
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This exact same thing happened to me recently, so I can sympathize. And Tim, you are absolutely correct about why it happens and how to avoid it. Steve Winget ...
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