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#1543 From: Craig Parker <rouble@...>
Date: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: well well wot a surfuckingprise
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:)  He told me try as he might he could never master the stuff Hendrix would just leave lying on the studio floor.
 
 
 
 
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Thank fuck he's gone.
 
Now, what was it Steve Hanley was saying to you in the pub the other night, Craig?
 
 
 
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#1542 From: Steve Dean <steve.dean@...>
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Now, what was it Steve Hanley was saying to you in the pub the other night, Craig?
 
 
 
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#1541 From: "ingerland2003" <ingerland2003@...>
Date: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:07 am
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time to leave another group......why people form groups only then to
never post a fucking word i will never know............take care and
have fun

#1540 From: "ingerland2003" <ingerland2003@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2008 11:54 am
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--- In Bombast@yahoogroups.com, "ingerland2003" <ingerland2003@...>
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>
>
> just a brief word............good to find a group dealing with the
fall
> and MES. started listening to The Fall around the time of Rowche
> Rumble..........first saw em 1977 (I think) Bradford Palm Cove
> Club......grotty little place it was and all. anyway thats it lets
just
> make sure theres plenty of postings etc and not like many other
groups
> with no movement............when they cumming to vienna again anyway
> (thats where i am now)
>

#1539 From: "ingerland2003" <ingerland2003@...>
Date: Mon Jun 2, 2008 6:55 am
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just a bried word............good to find a group dealing with the fall
and MES. started listening to The Fall around the time of Rowche
Rumble..........first saw em 1977 (I think) Bradford Palm Cove
Club......grotty little place it was and all. anyway thats it lets just
make sure theres plenty of postings etc and not like many other groups
with no movement............when they cumming to vienna again anyway
(thats where i am now)

#1538 From: "new_face_in_hell" <new_face_in_hell@...>
Date: Mon May 19, 2008 5:09 pm
Subject: salford MES conference
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MESSING UP THE PAINTWORK:
An Introduction

Introduction
As an introduction to this conference, I only wish to say a few words
to explain some of the reasons for holding this conference in this
particular place and time. These reasons are both personal and
cultural, or put it differently, psychogeographical, so I hope you
will excuse an autobiographical detour.

As you can no doubt tell form my accent I am hardly a native
Salfordian but in fact grew up in Wellington, New Zealand. I first
heard The Fall on our local student radio station, Radio Active in
1982 (which at the time had the nickname Radio Fall/New Order because
of its playlist), but only really  experienced the group when a new
punk friend of mine Erica (aka Erotica, lead singer of the Barbaric
Bunnies, the Wellington equivalent of the Slits), appalled at my poor
taste in Punk/New Wave consisting of The Clash, The Cure, The Jam
etc. lent me three (according to her) essential albums which were the
two Joy Division studio albums and the Fall's Hex Enduction Hour.
While I enjoyed the former almost immediately, the latter I found
strange, aggressive and confrontational, as if the music was leaping
off the record to assault my sensibilities. At the same time I was
fascinated by the weirdness of tracks like Iceland and Who Makes the
Nazis. It was as if the Joy Division albums confirmed a world I
already knew, teenage depression and alienation being as rife in the
colonies as it was in Manchester, whereas the alienness and at times
violence of the Fall activated my senses be refusing to offer
anything familiar but instead invited me into a weird and frightening
but intriguing world. By the time Perverted by Language had come out,
The Fall were definitely my favourite group and I pretty much was
listening to every Fall album I could get hold of, which meant
everything except for Dragnet which remained for some reason
unobtainable.

I only mention all this to emphasise that while The Fall are
undeniably situated in a particular Place, Salford/Manchester, the
Northwest, they have always had a wide circulation and surprising
popularity in surprising places such as Iceland or New Zealand,
neither of which were on any kind of international music circuit when
the Fall visited them. I can't speak for Iceland but I remember
clearly that `Lie-Dream of a Casino Soul' was a chart hit in New
Zealand going to number two in the mainstream charts, even though few
of its listeners probably had any idea what the song was about.

So one explanation for this conference is simple unapologetic fandom—
having got a job at Salford University and moved to the area, I
thought that the least I could do by way of acknowledgement was to
show my appreciation for the role The Fall played in my own history
as some of the most energising, stimulating and ultimately affecting
music I had experienced.

However, this personal side is not the only motivation for this
conference. Ever since I first raised the idea, at first only half
seriously, I had the impression that this was in many respects an
event waiting to happen (someone even told me they were sorry we were
doing it because they wanted to themselves). Most of the plenary
speakers, especially those connected with The Fall, are here not
because we contacted them but because they wanted to be here and this
confirmed my impression that I was just being the catalyst for
something that was in the air somehow, and it certainly seemed a
happy coincidence that the conference lined up with the release of
Renegade and Imperial Wax Solvent even if the planned gig at Salford
University last week had to be postponed. Furthermore, since arriving
in Salford I have witnessed a veritable explosion of post-punk
nostalgia, expressed in multiple films, books and art exhibitions
largely focused around Joy Division, Factory and the Hacienda as if
this summed up Manchester's post-punk past. Bringing serious
attention to The Fall seemed the ideal way to disrupt this nostalgic
Factory Myth, especially since the Fall, unlike many of their punk
contemporaries never self-destructed and especially refused to become
their own cover band but instead have continually evolved
productively and in unexpected ways in the margins of popular music
as its necessary insider outsiders.

Understandably, not every-one saw things this way and the idea
received quite a lot of Flak from Fall fans on the Fall Online. Some
of this was straight out antagonism towards Universities and
academics, talking about grey haired professors claiming to know more
than the real fans (I have the grey hair but I'm pretty far away from
the professorship!). Others cited Fall lyrics from `Room to Live' to
prove that The Fall had already anticipated attempts at museumifying
the group (but I can assure Mark E. Smith we will not be invading his
house `like a murder squad'!). My personal favourite was a posting
with the following title: `Here are the pre-cog conclusions. This
will save you £30.' [Read extracts]

As one fan who took the trouble to write to me said you have to
expect some antagonism in taking on this idea and in a way it is
entering a territory marked by passion, loyalty and politics.
However, for me this is precisely what makes this a worthwhile event;
not because we are planning to turn the Fall into a museum exhibit,
or because we claim to know more about the Fall than the fans or
because we want to reduce their music to a few trite formulas;
instead we have the opportunity to explore the world of the Fall in a
way that is open, provisional and combines both elements of passion
and fandom with intellectual analysis: because while I doubt any-one
is speaking here today who would not consider themselves in some way
or at some time a fan of The Fall, at the same time we are not here
as fans but as intellectuals, a word I want to use despite of and
because of the distrust it arouses, since intellectual engagement is
not the same thing as being a fan even if fans are certainly capable
of both intelligence and criticism.

Intellectual engagement with the Fall does not mean explaining them
according to some pre-given theory but to bring our intellectual
resources to bear on the Fall's work, as a creative act in its own
right, as an experiment in writing and speaking inspired by but
distinct from the Fall's own experimentation in the sphere of music.
This is why an important aspect of the conference was to bring
together different approaches from people with different relations to
popular music; not only academics or students, already from a number
of different fields, but journalists, producers, promoters, fictional
writers. Within the academic sphere we have speakers who specialise
in popular music and culture but also visual arts, sound technology,
literature and other fields making this in total a truly multi-
disciplinary event and not just the usual lip service towards this
idea.

In the end the key idea behind the conference is summed up best by
the title `messing up the paintwork.' For me this phrase has multiple
associations which are worth identifying. First of all, the paintwork
can be considered as the norms or conventions of artistic practices,
including those of popular culture, which the Fall mess up by not
following the rules, by twisting established practices from recording
techniques, to live performances to album art.

On the other hand `paintwork' is less a reference to art than to
technical objects like cars; in this context messing up the paintwork
takes on a political dimension of messing up the surfaces of modern
consumerist life like the horse/clouds attacking the city in the
cover art for This Nation's Saving Grace. Now is not the time to
specify exactly what this politics consists of but it is clearly a
politics of productive antagonism evident in the Fall's relation to
the surrounding popular cultural field, as well as within the group
itself.

Thirdly the phrase refers to the potential effect of the Fall on our
own work, our collective responses to the `perversion of both musical
and verbal language' enacted by the Fall. Again the practices of
engaging with the Fall are clearly distinct form the Fall itself and
will stand or fall on their own merits. The question is how might the
Fall mess up our paintwork? [Many people were surprised when the Fall
played at the launch of the Perverted by Language short story
collection, despite having publicly criticised it, but this is
entirely consistent of their attitude of productive antagonism].

Finally there is the song `Paintwork' from which the phrase
originates, certainly one of the more reflexive and seemingly lyrical
rather than aggressive tracks The Fall ever recorded. I remember well
the response of one music journalist who stated that only Mark E.
Smith could compose a song out of diary entries about eating `liver
and sausage' and make it sound like `Pale Blue Eyes.' However, what
is most interesting about this song is the refusal of the idea of the
finished, quality product, especially by incorporating in the song
the accidentally recorded, on a cheap tape recorder, David
Attenborough programme on the universe (Red Giant stars….) that cuts
into the middle of song and again nearer the end. By making explicit
the artificiality of the recording process, thereby intensifying
rather than destroying the lyricism of the song,  the Fall open up
not merely layers of recording but also layers of experience that
invite an active response. I will leave it up to the rest of you to
explore the various dimensions of these and other aspects of the
Fall's practice but I would like to leave you with the track itself
as a kind of theme song of our conference: [Play Track]

#1537 From: glenselvy@...
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:11 pm
Subject: Re: Not Up To Much!
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In a message dated 1/29/2007 4:31:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, Are Venerable Listmeister writes:
 
> We have not been at all busy here, but we have a new member, so maybe something will
> happen.
 
look!  a reply!
 
now we're happenin!
 
other john, ducking and running
:)
 
note that i didn't write, "look!  there's a sq_____l!"

#1536 From: "Mars41_99" <mars@...>
Date: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:29 pm
Subject: not busy here
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We have not been at all busy here, but we have a new member, so maybe something
will
happen.

mars -- not expecting much ...

#1535 From: "Yousef" <YOUSEF@...>
Date: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:14 pm
Subject: RE: Fall @ Warehouse Project
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Hey Graydon - did you make it to the Boddies gig? Curious souls would appreciate
an intelligent review if so...

Me, I just couldn't be bothered, even though I've been listening to more Fall
than usual recently. That Backdrop comp of live and stray tracks mainly - I defy
anyone to convince me that the current line-up(s) can in any way come close to
that rag-bag of rejected songs and magazine freebies.

Yousef


-----Original Message-----
From: Bombast@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Bombast@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Graydon Monk
Sent: 30 October 2006 00:19
To: Bombast@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Bombast] Fall @ Warehouse Project


Hi All

Confirmation of the forthcoming Manchester gig is now on the official
Fall website.

"The Fall play on Remembrance Sunday, 12 November 2006, as part of the
Warehouse Project event, which is being held at the old Boddingtons
brewery in Strangeways, Manchester. Doors open at 7pm.
Support
Safi Sniper and Gabrielle’s Wish"

Nice to see Gabs Wish back together and apparently they were on top form
at a recent gig @ the Castle in Oldham. Should be a good night.

I notice it comes off the back of some U.S. gigs so what the Fall line
up will be by Manchester is anyone's guess.

@+
Graydon

#1534 From: Dirty Water <dirtywaterclub@...>
Date: Sun Nov 5, 2006 12:55 pm
Subject: Re: Mark E Smith in Berlin
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Reply sent off list as I'm giving out an email address
for the other bloke in the photo. Cheers. PJ



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#1533 From: Jack DeGuiseppi <jackd@...>
Date: Sat Nov 4, 2006 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: Mark E Smith in Berlin
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MAN!!!!  He looks B-A-D!  I guess we all have those "worse for wear"
photos but none of mine look that bad.  Paunch peeking thru the sweater
adds a nice touch.

jackd



On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, PJ wrote:

> With my mate Mike, current organ player with the Monks:
>
> http://www.xnet2.com/sknoof/images/06monks/meandsmith.jpg
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> Archives URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bombast/messages
> Fall website URL: http://www.visi.com/fall
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#1532 From: "Yousef" <YOUSEF@...>
Date: Sat Nov 4, 2006 9:26 pm
Subject: RE: Mark E Smith in Berlin
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Stefan:

> Holy cow, what a photo!

Indeed. I'd pretty much decided against going to the Boddington's gig but
after seeing this I may well buy tickets just in case there isn't actually
an MES around to play the traditional pre-Xmas Manchester gig next year...

Yousef

#1531 From: Stefan Cooke <scooke@...>
Date: Sat Nov 4, 2006 8:59 pm
Subject: Re: Mark E Smith in Berlin
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On Sat, 4 Nov 2006, PJ wrote:

> With my mate Mike, current organ player with the Monks:
>
> http://www.xnet2.com/sknoof/images/06monks/meandsmith.jpg
>
Holy cow, what a photo! Can I stick it on the Fall site
forum?

Stefan

#1530 From: "PJ" <dirtywaterclub@...>
Date: Sat Nov 4, 2006 6:45 pm
Subject: Mark E Smith in Berlin
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With my mate Mike, current organ player with the Monks:

http://www.xnet2.com/sknoof/images/06monks/meandsmith.jpg

#1529 From: "PJ" <dirtywaterclub@...>
Date: Sat Nov 4, 2006 6:43 pm
Subject: The Monks on BBC Radio Two
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#1528 From: "Conway Paton" <conwaypaton@...>
Date: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:39 pm
Subject: Re: Fall @ Warehouse Project
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The guitarist and bass player have US dates booked for their own band
in November & they have said they won't be playing Manchester. I think
the 2 New York shows fit their schedule. Mcr will probably get Pete
from Das Fringe on gtr and Dave Spurr on bass. I don't think there's
been any word on whether Orpheo, the US drummer, will come over. There
was a backup drummer in Ireland.

Unofficially,
Conway


On 10/30/06, Graydon Monk <graydon@...> wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Confirmation of the forthcoming Manchester gig is now on the official
> Fall website.
>
> "The Fall play on Remembrance Sunday, 12 November 2006, as part of the
> Warehouse Project event, which is being held at the old Boddingtons
> brewery in Strangeways, Manchester. Doors open at 7pm.
> Support
> Safi Sniper and Gabrielle's Wish"
>
> Nice to see Gabs Wish back together and apparently they were on top form
> at a recent gig @ the Castle in Oldham. Should be a good night.
>
> I notice it comes off the back of some U.S. gigs so what the Fall line
> up will be by Manchester is anyone's guess.
>
> @+
> Graydon

#1527 From: Graydon Monk <graydon@...>
Date: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:18 am
Subject: Re: Fall @ Warehouse Project
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Hi All

Confirmation of the forthcoming Manchester gig is now on the official
Fall website.

"The Fall play on Remembrance Sunday, 12 November 2006, as part of the
Warehouse Project event, which is being held at the old Boddingtons
brewery in Strangeways, Manchester. Doors open at 7pm.
Support
Safi Sniper and Gabrielle’s Wish"

Nice to see Gabs Wish back together and apparently they were on top form
at a recent gig @ the Castle in Oldham. Should be a good night.

I notice it comes off the back of some U.S. gigs so what the Fall line
up will be by Manchester is anyone's guess.

@+
Graydon




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<LGEDIHIOBFKHNBGCJOACMEFBFEAA.yousef@...>, Yousef
<YOUSEF@...> writes
>
>Best hurry up and get my tickets then...
>
>I was at a great gig last night - Pete Wylie at the New Picket in Liverpool. I
>think the gig was the culmination of a John Peel Day they were having, in
>any case Mrs Ravenscroft (and kids) were there, dancing the night away
>and making merry.
>
>Wylie's got a new band of 20-somethings backing him and sounds great, if
>you get a chance to see him play live, I can heartily recommend it.
>
>Other music of the moment:
>
>-Jesca Hoop: excellent female folky-cum-Waitsesque stuff
>-Joanna Newsom - heard a preview of the new (Albini engineered) LP on
>XFM and it sounds amazing. I've got a great recording of her last
>Manchester gig if anyone's interested.
>-Joan as Policewoman - literate, piano-led whimsy and angst
>[hmmm, looks like I've been spending too much time in the "female vocal:
>J" section of Vinyl Exchange]
>-Scott Matthews - Buckley jnr.-style songsmith
>-Findlay Brown - Nick Drake-John Martyn English folk stuff
>-Richard Hawley - no explanation needed
>
>Yousef
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>]On Behalf Of Graydon Monk
>Sent: 13 October 2006 01:37
>To: Bombast@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Bombast] Fall @ Warehouse Project
>
>Hi Yousef
>
>I'm not sure why the strangeways gig is not on The Fall website. It is
>listed on the Warehouse Project web site and I was also able to buy
>tickets on line. Hope it goes ahead now.
>
>
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#1526 From: Dirty Water <dirtywaterclub@...>
Date: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:00 pm
Subject: Re: Hello
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> Hell, this might be all he wants ;-)

Well, it seems to me that there's a lot of Fall and
Fall-related stuff out there. So one step at a time,
might be best, eh?!

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#1525 From: steve.dean@...
Date: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:28 pm
Subject: Re: Hello
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Conway Paton :
>And also trying the
> website forum rather than this fairly quiet email list...

Hell, this might be all he wants ;-)

'
stve

#1524 From: "PJ" <dirtywaterclub@...>
Date: Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:24 am
Subject: The Monks and The Fall in US newspaper
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#1523 From: Graydon Monk <graydon@...>
Date: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:20 am
Subject: Re: Mark E Smith in Mojo magazine
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>They were huge in Britain too. Hardly limited success! I saw them in 75,
>76 and
>77 but by then they were well past their peak - they got bigger though.
>They
>used to sell out the Guildhall / City Hall circuit.
>Album I liked best was "Everyone Is Everybody Else".
>

OK, maybe I didn't consider the "hall" circuit that big. There were lots
of bands on that circuit back then. They were approx 2,000 capacity
venues and I used to play them years ago and didn't consider that I had
made it. I never played to 100,000 like BJH do in Germany so I guess
they remember them well over there.

I think in Canada as well, as I know their current(non original)bassist
and they still tour Canada every couple of years.

I don't remember them having any major album chart hits in UK, but maybe
its the 70's that I don't remember too good. I seemed to wake up when
punk arrived late 70's.

Due to divisions within BJH there are currently 2 versions of the band,
both playing BJH "hits". I'm not sure if they both still tour and not
really being a fan, I'm too lazy to research this.

With a surname of Monk do you reckon I could get onto the guest list for
Thursdays gig :-)

@+
Graydon Monk

#1522 From: Dirty Water <dirtywaterclub@...>
Date: Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: Mark E Smith in Mojo magazine
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> The forthcoming Monks gigs sound interesting
although the surviving
> members must be in their mid 60's by now. It will be
interesting to see
> the age mix of the crowd. At Fall gigs there is a
broad age range from
> teens to 60+ so maybe these gigs will be the same.

Yes, I saw the Monks' first reunion gig, which was
also their first in their home country. Some of them
didn't need to shave their heads anymore to get that
monk-like haircut! But the energy and enthusiasm for
the music was still there. And, yes, the age range of
the audience did indeed go from 16 to 60+. I imagine
that this Thursday will be much the same. I'm so
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#1521 From: steve.dean@...
Date: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: Mark E Smith in Mojo magazine
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> There was a band that lived just around the corner from me in the 60's
> called Barclay James Harvest. They made a few albums and had very
> limited UK success but were massive in Germany, not sure what it was
> that the Germans saw in their music that no one else did. They (like The

They were huge in Britain too. Hardly limited success! I saw them in 75, 76 and
77 but by then they were well past their peak - they got bigger though. They
used to sell out the Guildhall / City Hall circuit.

Album I liked best was "Everyone Is Everybody Else".


stve

#1520 From: Graydon Monk <graydon@...>
Date: Mon Oct 16, 2006 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: Mark E Smith in Mojo magazine
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Very interesting.

Having watched some of the clips of The Monks I see the similarities
with The Fall. Driving drum beat, distorted bass, lo tech keyboard
sounds. Its almost the sound of the Fall today!!

I am old enough to have lived through the 60's and remember it. A rare
achievement they tell me. I was very musically switched on by the late
60's and remember many "underground" bands of that time. I never
remember hearing about The Monks at all until much,much later in the
80's when they were regarded as a cult band. They obviously had a lot of
success in Germany judging by the amount of Monk Beat Club videos on
YouTube.

Check out this link and see if it works for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3bMVcuiv6Q&mode=related&search=

There was a band that lived just around the corner from me in the 60's
called Barclay James Harvest. They made a few albums and had very
limited UK success but were massive in Germany, not sure what it was
that the Germans saw in their music that no one else did. They (like The
Monks) have reformed and although I wouldn't recognise any of their
songs, they are playing to festival crowds of 100,000 in Germany. It
seems the Germans are very loyal to their favourite bands.

The forthcoming Monks gigs sound interesting although the surviving
members must be in their mid 60's by now. It will be interesting to see
the age mix of the crowd. At Fall gigs there is a broad age range from
teens to 60+ so maybe these gigs will be the same.

Fast forward 10 years to a future Fall gig and me arriving at the venue
via Ring & Ride after using half my pension to buy a ticket. This vision
is in one way quite frightening, but also seems absurdly real.

@+
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>
>Did anyone see the little piece in Mojo magazine where he talks about
>sixties weirdo band the Monks?
>
>Check out the entry in Wikipedia -
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monks - where they mention the song's
>the Fall have covered.
>
>The Monks are playing London this week -
>http://www.dirtywaterclub.co.uk - and it is sure to be a memorable
>evening. I don't know if Smith will turn up to the gig on Thursday
>(does anyone know if he's busy elsewhere that night?) but I know he
>will be travelling to Germany to appear with the Monks at the weekend
>of the 21st/22nd.
>
>If you've not heard the Monks before I recommend everyone checks them
>out - if you like the Fall or the Velvet Underground or just have an
>interest in plain weird music, you can't not like the Monks.
>
>Scroll down to the bottom of the entry on Wikipedia and you'll find
>some links to video clips from German tv in 1966. Amazing stuff!
>
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#1519 From: glenselvy@...
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: we are alive! and full of beans!
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In a message dated 10/12/2006 9:23:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mars axes:
 
> what new bands do you guys listen to and like?
 
new?  NEW?  why you listen here, young man!  back when i were a yoof, we didn't have any need for new bands.  bah!  this Fall groop are okay fine with me, and they've been perfectly alright since you were in short pants.  why, just the other zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . .
 
(other john's great-grandchildren put blankets on him and take his pipe out of his hand so he disnae set the house on fire while he's sleeping.)
 
other john, close that window!  turn off that lamp!  why are you wearing a cigarette lighter around your neck, and why does it have strings coming out of it and going into your ears?  and get your dog out of my garden or i'm calling the council!  and zzzzzzzzzzzzz . . .
:)
 
i award myself 5 Continuing Education points for doing Curmudgeonly Pete / Pete's brother (ObShedCon).

#1518 From: "PJ" <dirtywaterclub@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:52 pm
Subject: Mark E Smith in Mojo magazine
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Did anyone see the little piece in Mojo magazine where he talks about
sixties weirdo band the Monks?

Check out the entry in Wikipedia -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monks - where they mention the song's
the Fall have covered.

The Monks are playing London this week -
http://www.dirtywaterclub.co.uk - and it is sure to be a memorable
evening. I don't know if Smith will turn up to the gig on Thursday
(does anyone know if he's busy elsewhere that night?) but I know he
will be travelling to Germany to appear with the Monks at the weekend
of the 21st/22nd.

If you've not heard the Monks before I recommend everyone checks them
out - if you like the Fall or the Velvet Underground or just have an
interest in plain weird music, you can't not like the Monks.

Scroll down to the bottom of the entry on Wikipedia and you'll find
some links to video clips from German tv in 1966. Amazing stuff!

#1517 From: "Jennifer Hawker" <jenhawk@...>
Date: Sat Oct 14, 2006 5:42 am
Subject: Re: Digest Number 468
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3. we are alive!
   Posted by: "Mars41_99" mars@... mars41_99
   Date: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:23 pm (PDT)

Well, at least for now.
 
Funny, I was just mentioning/recommending the Fall to someone the other day, and suddenly the group comes back to life at the same time.  A nice surprise! 

Nice to hear the Fall news.  (Fallnet has hit some hard times, not sure why.)

mars -- what new bands do you guys listen to and like?
 
I'm still on a high from seeing Muse live last week, but they're not new, been around for a good 7 or 8 years at least.  Sure are "new" to a lot of people around here though. 
 
New(ish) stuff, hmm.  The Editors, The Raconteurs, Gnarls Barkley, The Dears, Bloc Party.
 
jen

#1516 From: "Yousef" <YOUSEF@...>
Date: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:03 pm
Subject: RE: Fall @ Warehouse Project
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Best hurry up and get my tickets then...

I was at a great gig last night - Pete Wylie at the New Picket in Liverpool. I
think the gig was the culmination of a John Peel Day they were having, in any
case Mrs Ravenscroft (and kids) were there, dancing the night away and making
merry.

Wylie's got a new band of 20-somethings backing him and sounds great, if you get
a chance to see him play live, I can heartily recommend it.

Other music of the moment:

-Jesca Hoop: excellent female folky-cum-Waitsesque stuff
-Joanna Newsom - heard a preview of the new (Albini engineered) LP on XFM and it
sounds amazing. I've got a great recording of her last Manchester gig if
anyone's interested.
-Joan as Policewoman - literate, piano-led whimsy and angst
[hmmm, looks like I've been spending too much time in the "female vocal: J"
section of Vinyl Exchange]
-Scott Matthews - Buckley jnr.-style songsmith
-Findlay Brown - Nick Drake-John Martyn English folk stuff
-Richard Hawley - no explanation needed

Yousef



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Hi Yousef

I'm not sure why the strangeways gig is not on The Fall website. It is
listed on the Warehouse Project web site and I was also able to buy
tickets on line. Hope it goes ahead now.

#1515 From: "Mars41_99" <mars@...>
Date: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:20 am
Subject: we are alive!
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Well, at least for now.

Nice to hear the Fall news.  (Fallnet has hit some hard times, not sure why.)

mars -- what new bands do you guys listen to and like?

#1514 From: Graydon Monk <graydon@...>
Date: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:37 am
Subject: Re: Fall @ Warehouse Project
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Hi Yousef

Nice to hear from you, I am fine.
Not seen The Fall since the Middleton Civic gig. The band has since been
sacked and reformed several times.

I'm not sure why the strangeways gig is not on The Fall website. It is
listed on the Warehouse Project web site and I was also able to buy
tickets on line. Hope it goes ahead now.

Its nice to see that long time Fall support band Gabrielles Wish have
reformed with a new album.
http://www.gabrielleswish.com/

There are mp3's from the new CD to download and a decent free live track
from a Manchester Bierkeller gig in 2005.

Hope to see some of you guys @ Manchester.

@+
Graydon


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>
>Ditto.
>
>The gig's "unconfirmed" status bugs me a bit though...
>
>So how's Graydon keeping? Not heard from you for ages.
>
>Yousef
>
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>]On Behalf Of
>Graydon Monk
>Sent: 12 October 2006 19:12
>To: Bombast@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Bombast] Fall @ Warehouse Project
>
>Any Bombastards going to the Manchester Strangeways gig?
>
>I'm going just to check out what the venue is like :-)
>--
>Graydon
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