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   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Carl Shubitowski
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   Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 6:52 AM
   Subject: Re: [ClassicalGuitarForum] Gem of a piece


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   --- richardwikander <wikander@...> wrote:
   > Just a heads-up about some music:
   >
   > I've been strolling through Minami's site, finding loads of very good
   >
   > transcriptions, and I came across Faure's Requiem (Pie Jesu).  I
   > think this is a spectacular bit of music, and the transcription is
   > just excellent.
   >
   > A problem does arise in the fact that all the music on this site is
   > extensively fingered, but the transcriptions print out rather small,
   > making it difficult to make things out sometimes.
   >
   > But I would highly recommend this piece (and the site as well) to
   > anyone looking for some solid, well-realized transcriptions of good
   > music.
   >
   > Anyway, check out the Faure.
   >
   > Rich W
   >
   >
   >
   >
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   >
   >
   >
   >
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--- richardwikander <wikander@...> wrote:
> Just a heads-up about some music:
>
> I've been strolling through Minami's site, finding loads of very good
>
> transcriptions, and I came across Faure's Requiem (Pie Jesu).  I
> think this is a spectacular bit of music, and the transcription is
> just excellent.
>
> A problem does arise in the fact that all the music on this site is
> extensively fingered, but the transcriptions print out rather small,
> making it difficult to make things out sometimes.
>
> But I would highly recommend this piece (and the site as well) to
> anyone looking for some solid, well-realized transcriptions of good
> music.
>
> Anyway, check out the Faure.
>
> Rich W
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>


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Just a heads-up about some music:

I've been strolling through Minami's site, finding loads of very good
transcriptions, and I came across Faure's Requiem (Pie Jesu).  I
think this is a spectacular bit of music, and the transcription is
just excellent.

A problem does arise in the fact that all the music on this site is
extensively fingered, but the transcriptions print out rather small,
making it difficult to make things out sometimes.

But I would highly recommend this piece (and the site as well) to
anyone looking for some solid, well-realized transcriptions of good
music.

Anyway, check out the Faure.

Rich W

Hi Karl,

Good luck with the CD.

Listened to the samples and the CD is on it's way to me.
I visited your web site and plan to order the C.P.E Bach
book.

Ed S.

--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "karlzxcv2003"
<karlzxcv2003@y...> wrote:
> I'm delighted to let you all know that my latest recording project
is
> finished and released.
>
> It is almost entirely new transcriptions by baroque masters (I
> couldn't resist playing BWV 998) and includes the first solo
> recording of the BWV 846 P&F.
>
> I can't begin to explain how much fun this project was. It started
> over two years ago when I began the transcriptions and progressed
> pretty steadily through recording sessions and editing until mid
> December of 2003.
>
> Working with the other musicians, Iain Osgood, Laura Campbell, and
> Chris White was both rewarding and educational.
>
> The tracks were recorded in three different practice studios in
> Ithaca New York and mixed in my office, various cafes in New
Orleans
> and on an airplane over Virginia. (Sennheiser noise reducing
> headphones are a must for this)
>
> Its available online at:
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/karlwolff
>
> All the best, Karl Wolff
> http://www.karlwolff.com/

Hi Stephen,

Think nothing of it. *I'M* glad you think of me as a fine guitarist <G>

I look forward to hearing some more of your stuff in the future!

Warm regards,
PERF
http://www.perfdecastro.com
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: stepheno164
   To: ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:04 PM
   Subject: [ClassicalGuitarForum] Re: steel-string requests


   thanks, perf.  That's really good advice.  You're very down to
   earth.  This means a lot coming from such a fine guitarist as
   yourself.

   stephen



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James,

Thanks.  I just now realized what you were telling me about the
score being available on Ophee's site when I went to hear the MP3.
I think I shall opt for the immediate gratification of a downloaded
score.

Pauline

Dear Matanya,

I have found this most exciting. I'll email you a copy of the prelude.

All the best, Karl Wolff

--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, Matanya Ophee
<m.ophee@o...> wrote:
> At 11:29 PM 2/8/2004, Karl wrote:
> >Dear Matanya,
> >
> >The best solution to the first first few chords that have the A at
> >the 12th fret in the bass is to simply play the A as a harmonic.
>
> That's exactly what Alfredo does.
>
>
> Matanya Ophee
> Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
> 1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
> Columbus, OH 43235-1226
> Phone: 614-846-9517
> Fax:     614-846-9794
> mailto:m.ophee@o...
> http://www.orphee.com

At 11:29 PM 2/8/2004, Karl wrote:
>Dear Matanya,
>
>The best solution to the first first few chords that have the A at
>the 12th fret in the bass is to simply play the A as a harmonic.

That's exactly what Alfredo does.


Matanya Ophee
Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax:     614-846-9794
mailto:m.ophee@...
http://www.orphee.com

At 11:17 PM 2/8/2004, you wrote:
>Dear Matanya,
>
>Actually I'm listening to the piece at this moment and we start in
>the exact same range.

Well, on this computer I am able to make a very quick AB comparison. Yes,
you both start in the same range.

>  There are after that several transpositions and
>compromises Mr. Sanchez has made to the original.

That may be so. Any transcription requires compromises. A successful
transcription is not one which remains abslutely faithful to the original,
but one which works naturally on the destination instrument.

>I like his playing very much, but he has changed the piece quite a
>bit when it really wasn't necessary.

I am really not in position to argue the case either way, since personally,
I have not looked into the original for quite a few years.



Matanya Ophee
Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax:     614-846-9794
mailto:m.ophee@...
http://www.orphee.com

Dear Matanya,

The best solution to the first first few chords that have the A at
the 12th fret in the bass is to simply play the A as a harmonic.

Most importantly is happens at measure 20. It is an A7 chord that
resolves to a D maj.7 in 21. This is the most remarkable moment in
this piece and changing the continual downward movement of the
harmonic progression by transposition seriously compromises this
exquisite moment.

I did this transcription because everyone has modified this piece
more than is necessary. I'm playing in the key of A, just a third
below the oringinal key. I suspect you listened to the sample on my
site and only heard the last few measures of the prelude.

--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, Matanya Ophee
<m.ophee@o...> wrote:
> At 10:42 PM 2/8/2004, Karl Wolff wrote:
> >I'm glad I dropped back in this evening. I had no idea anyone had
> >recorded the 846 fugue. Oh course I knew about recordings of the
> >prelude, but I hadn't heard the fugue before.
> >
> >Exciting actually. I will have to order the recording.
>
> Unfortunately, no longer in print.
>
>
> >I found both pieces quite a puzzle. Transposed to A and played in
> >drop D tuning they are playable.
>
> As you can see for the first line incipits on my web site, Alfredo
indeed
> transposes it to A, but plays it an octave higher than you do,
which
> eliminates the need for the drop D and everything is then playable
as
> written. The difficulty being in the very first measure of the
prelude
> where the only way to play it as written is by using a LH thumb
barre on
> fret IX. Unorthodox, but once you realize cellists do it all the
time, it
> is no big thing to learn to do.
>
> >
>
> Matanya Ophee
> Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
> 1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
> Columbus, OH 43235-1226
> Phone: 614-846-9517
> Fax:     614-846-9794
> mailto:m.ophee@o...
> http://www.orphee.com

Dear Matanya,

Actually I'm listening to the piece at this moment and we start in
the exact same range. There are after that several transpositions and
compromises Mr. Sanchez has made to the original.

I like his playing very much, but he has changed the piece quite a
bit when it really wasn't necessary.

I'll send you a copy.

--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, Matanya Ophee
<m.ophee@o...> wrote:
> At 10:42 PM 2/8/2004, Karl Wolff wrote:
> >I'm glad I dropped back in this evening. I had no idea anyone had
> >recorded the 846 fugue. Oh course I knew about recordings of the
> >prelude, but I hadn't heard the fugue before.
> >
> >Exciting actually. I will have to order the recording.
>
> Unfortunately, no longer in print.
>
>
> >I found both pieces quite a puzzle. Transposed to A and played in
> >drop D tuning they are playable.
>
> As you can see for the first line incipits on my web site, Alfredo
indeed
> transposes it to A, but plays it an octave higher than you do,
which
> eliminates the need for the drop D and everything is then playable
as
> written. The difficulty being in the very first measure of the
prelude
> where the only way to play it as written is by using a LH thumb
barre on
> fret IX. Unorthodox, but once you realize cellists do it all the
time, it
> is no big thing to learn to do.
>
> >
>
> Matanya Ophee
> Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
> 1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
> Columbus, OH 43235-1226
> Phone: 614-846-9517
> Fax:     614-846-9794
> mailto:m.ophee@o...
> http://www.orphee.com

thanks, perf.  That's really good advice.  You're very down to
earth.  This means a lot coming from such a fine guitarist as
yourself.

stephen




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<perfektus@s...> wrote:
> --- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "stepheno164"
> <sao0002@u...> wrote:
>
> > (snip)But I can't stand
> > being requested to play when there's only a steel-string guitar
> > around.  Have any of you had this problem? (snip)
> >
> > What do yall do in these situations?
> >
> > stephen
>
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
> I've had my share of situations similar to yours, not only with
steel
> string acoustics but with electric guitars as well.
>
> Yes, it's not the same, but you have to remember that the
situation
> you're is also not the same a a classical recital. You're not
under a
> microscope here and the people who asked you to play aren't there
to
> judge and scrutinize your technique. I would even say that they
> really think you play guitar very well and that's the only reason
why
> they're asking you to play.
>
> Your friends really dug the music on your CD and since you're
there
> in person, why not have you play? No one there cares about how
many
> mistakes you make or if the (wrong kind of) guitar is making you
slip
> up. They're there to see you play for them and just the act of
> picking up whatever guitar there is to play at their request is
> usually enough to win them over and make you the greatest in their
> eyes! And from your description, it sounds like you really got the
> crowd going and enjoying themselves with your playing. That's a
great
> thing to do!
>
> What I do is not to take it too seriously and just go out and play
> using whatever guitar is available. If it's a steel string, I do
my
> best not to damage my nails, although I do get carried away
sometimes
> and I end up chipping/cracking them!
>
> Most of all, just go along with the moment and have some fun with
it.
> After all, guitar playing is meant to be fun and what's more fun
than
> playing for/with your friends and having the time of your lives
doing
> so?
>
> Warm regards,
> PERF
> http://www.perfdecastro.com
>
> PS In the unlikely event that you mess up, you can always blame
the
> guitar! The perfect scapegoat hehehehe

At 10:42 PM 2/8/2004, Karl Wolff wrote:
>I'm glad I dropped back in this evening. I had no idea anyone had
>recorded the 846 fugue. Oh course I knew about recordings of the
>prelude, but I hadn't heard the fugue before.
>
>Exciting actually. I will have to order the recording.

Unfortunately, no longer in print.


>I found both pieces quite a puzzle. Transposed to A and played in
>drop D tuning they are playable.

As you can see for the first line incipits on my web site, Alfredo indeed
transposes it to A, but plays it an octave higher than you do, which
eliminates the need for the drop D and everything is then playable as
written. The difficulty being in the very first measure of the prelude
where the only way to play it as written is by using a LH thumb barre on
fret IX. Unorthodox, but once you realize cellists do it all the time, it
is no big thing to learn to do.

>

Matanya Ophee
Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax:     614-846-9794
mailto:m.ophee@...
http://www.orphee.com

Dear Pauline,

If you're refering to the BWV846 prelude you can order my
transcription from:

http://www.karlwolff.com/id1.html

The fugue is also there.

--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "Pauline Leland"
<pauline3@m...> wrote:
> My chops are doubtful, but that piece is so very nice, I have to
> give it a try, Karl has inspired me.  What is the general
impression
> of Francis Kleyjans arrangement?  It's offered online as a not-for-
> free download.  Is this a good arrangement?  Weed has it for free,
> but it's tab only.
>
> Sorry Karl, this is really getting off-topic, but how should one
> pronounce "Kleyjans"?  Clay-yawns?

My chops are doubtful, but that piece is so very nice, I have to
give it a try, Karl has inspired me.  What is the general impression
of Francis Kleyjans arrangement?  It's offered online as a not-for-
free download.  Is this a good arrangement?  Weed has it for free,
but it's tab only.

Sorry Karl, this is really getting off-topic, but how should one
pronounce "Kleyjans"?  Clay-yawns?

I'm glad I dropped back in this evening. I had no idea anyone had
recorded the 846 fugue. Oh course I knew about recordings of the
prelude, but I hadn't heard the fugue before.

Exciting actually. I will have to order the recording.

I found both pieces quite a puzzle. Transposed to A and played in
drop D tuning they are playable. Transposed this way the prelude can
be played as written except for one note that occurs in measures 32
and 33. The fugue needed one line dropped down an octave.

Thanks for the update.

Karl Wolff

At 10:15 PM 2/8/2004, Pauline Lelenad wrote:
>  Melody
>Assistant was able to read the midi and change it into a score.
>Wrong staffs, wrong range, wrong speed, but it's a start.  There
>must be something more friendly out there.


There is, but you need some basic chops to handle it. If you want the
computer to play it for you, there are plenty of solutions, most of which
are not as satisfying as a good audio recording, But if you want to play it
yourself, there is only one thing to do: get yourself a good transcription
and start working.


Matanya Ophee
Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax:     614-846-9794
mailto:m.ophee@...
http://www.orphee.com

Google found a site which says BWV 846 is part of "Das
wohltemperirte Clavier, Band I", so I must have heard it on a
keyboard.  The associated midi sounds like a harpsichord and it is
FAST!  I think I prefer a slower version to appreciate the melody.

The site is Muse Data, "a project of the Center for Computer
Assisted Research in the Humanities (CCARH)."  It requires you to
register, is protective of using scores for profit, but seems to be
bona fide.  I haven't explored to see if it has guitar scores; I
think not.  I couldn't use the formats they had, but Melody
Assistant was able to read the midi and change it into a score.
Wrong staffs, wrong range, wrong speed, but it's a start.  There
must be something more friendly out there.

The site is http://www.musedata.org/

At 07:45 PM 2/8/2004, Karl Wolff wrote:
>I'm delighted to let you all know that my latest recording project is
>finished and released.
>
>It is almost entirely new transcriptions by baroque masters (I
>couldn't resist playing BWV 998) and includes the first solo
>recording of the BWV 846 P&F.

Congratulations are in order, no doubt. At the same time, I am sorry to
disappoint you. Your recording of BWV 846 is not the first.  A recording of
BWV 846, both the Prelude and the Fugue was made by Alfredo Sanchez in his
recordings of selection from the WTA (BMG, Mexico, No. 74321822224),
released in 2000. The two tracks in question have been posted on my web
site in August of 2003.

http://www.orphee.com/solos/bach.html

I am always suspicious of claims of being the first, but in this case, I
happen to be directly involved. I am not even sure if Alfredo's recording
is he first. Surely the Prelude alone have been recording umpteen times. I
would still not be surprised if an earlier recording was found. Happens all
the time.


>

Matanya Ophee
Editions Orphe'e, Inc.,
1240 Clubview Blvd. N.
Columbus, OH 43235-1226
Phone: 614-846-9517
Fax:     614-846-9794
mailto:m.ophee@...
http://www.orphee.com

And this Prelude was of course used by Charles Gounod for his very
famous setting of 'Ave Maria', the Bach being the accompaniment to the
gorgeous melody that Gounod wrote.  There is an extra measure that
probably Gounod added to the Prelude, however I seem to remember that
there may have been several Baroque manuscripts of the Prelude and one
of them, I don't think an urtext, had the extra measure already written
in.  Anybody know about this measure?

Andrew



On Feb 8, 2004, at 9:11 PM, cguitarist_21 wrote:

> > First solo of BWV 846? 
>  > It is so familiar; I wonder where/how I've heard it before.  It is
>  >a  piece I especially like.
>
>  Hey Pauline,
>
>  It may be familiar because that version actually is not the first
>  solo recording of that piece for guitar.  Alfredo Sanchez transcribed
>  and recorded an excellent version of that very piece. His very fine
>  transcription is available to listen to - and purchase - on MO's site:
>
> http://www.orphee.com/solos/bach.html
>
>  That book is excellent as a whole, btw.  Well-worth nabbing.
>
>
>  best,
>  James M.
>
>
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> First solo of BWV 846?
> It is so familiar; I wonder where/how I've heard it before.  It is
>a  piece I especially like.

Hey Pauline,

It may be familiar because that version actually is not the first
solo recording of that piece for guitar.  Alfredo Sanchez transcribed
and recorded an excellent version of that very piece. His very fine
transcription is available to listen to - and purchase - on MO's site:

http://www.orphee.com/solos/bach.html

That book is excellent as a whole, btw.  Well-worth nabbing.


best,
James M.

Lovely.  The samples are so lovely to hear.  First solo of BWV 846?
It is so familiar; I wonder where/how I've heard it before.  It is a
piece I especially like.

Congratulations on putting it all together.

Pauline


--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "karlzxcv2003"
<karlzxcv2003@y...> wrote:
> I'm delighted to let you all know that my latest recording project
is
> finished and released.
>
> It is almost entirely new transcriptions by baroque masters (I
> couldn't resist playing BWV 998) and includes the first solo
> recording of the BWV 846 P&F.
>
> I can't begin to explain how much fun this project was. It started
> over two years ago when I began the transcriptions and progressed
> pretty steadily through recording sessions and editing until mid
> December of 2003.
>
> Working with the other musicians, Iain Osgood, Laura Campbell, and
> Chris White was both rewarding and educational.
>
> The tracks were recorded in three different practice studios in
> Ithaca New York and mixed in my office, various cafes in New
Orleans
> and on an airplane over Virginia. (Sennheiser noise reducing
> headphones are a must for this)
>
> Its available online at:
> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/karlwolff
>
> All the best, Karl Wolff
> http://www.karlwolff.com/

I'm delighted to let you all know that my latest recording project is
finished and released.

It is almost entirely new transcriptions by baroque masters (I
couldn't resist playing BWV 998) and includes the first solo
recording of the BWV 846 P&F.

I can't begin to explain how much fun this project was. It started
over two years ago when I began the transcriptions and progressed
pretty steadily through recording sessions and editing until mid
December of 2003.

Working with the other musicians, Iain Osgood, Laura Campbell, and
Chris White was both rewarding and educational.

The tracks were recorded in three different practice studios in
Ithaca New York and mixed in my office, various cafes in New Orleans
and on an airplane over Virginia. (Sennheiser noise reducing
headphones are a must for this)

Its available online at:
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/karlwolff

All the best, Karl Wolff
http://www.karlwolff.com/

Ivor,

Congratulations on your new guitar!
Congratulations on your new guitar!
Congratulations on your new guitar!

:-)

Carl

--- Ivor Segal <ivorguitar@...> wrote:
> Hi Des,
>
> Have today ordered a new guitar from UK luthier, one Earl Marsh. Earl
> drove
> 100+ miles to my home to show me a range of four of his instruments
> from
> which I chose the one I fell in love with. The point of this is he
> told me to keep
> the humidity to a level of 50% which pretty much endorses Carl's
> advice.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ivor...
>
>
>
> --- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "dbirch123"
> <dbirch1@e...>
> wrote:
> > Dear Carl,
> >
> > Thank you very very much.
> >
> > When I got my humidifier home and set up, it told me that the air
> in
> > our house was at 30%. I told that to a friend and he told me, that
> > is enough to wreck any guitar. But I didn't know how much I needed.
> >
> > Again, thank you.
> >
> > Desmond
> >
> >
> > --- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, Carl Shubitowski
> > <crshuby@y...> wrote:
> > > Desmond,
> > >
> > > Anywhere between 40% & 60% should be fine according to my luthier
> > > friends.  At least that's what we shoot for when building
> classical
> > > guitars.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> > > --- dbirch123 <dbirch1@e...> wrote:
> > > > Dear All,
> > > >
> > > > I am brand new to this group. I post at acoustic guitar.
> > > > The servers are down over there, and Pauline the
> > > > Moderator, told me I could get expert advice and help
> > > > here.
> > > >
> > > > I live in Denver where it is very very dry. I have been
> > > > using an internal humidifier. But that has not been
> > > > getting the job done. So I bought a large capacity Hunter
> > > > room humidifier with is digitally adjustable in 5%
> > > > relative humidity increments.
> > > >
> > > > I originally set it at 40%. Pauline says she thinks that
> > > > is only marginally enough. But she said to ask over here
> > > > where there would be experts who could advise me better.
> > > >
> > > > Desmond
> > > >
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--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "stepheno164"
<sao0002@u...> wrote:

> (snip)But I can't stand
> being requested to play when there's only a steel-string guitar
> around.  Have any of you had this problem? (snip)
>
> What do yall do in these situations?
>
> stephen


Hi Stephen,

I've had my share of situations similar to yours, not only with steel
string acoustics but with electric guitars as well.

Yes, it's not the same, but you have to remember that the situation
you're is also not the same a a classical recital. You're not under a
microscope here and the people who asked you to play aren't there to
judge and scrutinize your technique. I would even say that they
really think you play guitar very well and that's the only reason why
they're asking you to play.

Your friends really dug the music on your CD and since you're there
in person, why not have you play? No one there cares about how many
mistakes you make or if the (wrong kind of) guitar is making you slip
up. They're there to see you play for them and just the act of
picking up whatever guitar there is to play at their request is
usually enough to win them over and make you the greatest in their
eyes! And from your description, it sounds like you really got the
crowd going and enjoying themselves with your playing. That's a great
thing to do!

What I do is not to take it too seriously and just go out and play
using whatever guitar is available. If it's a steel string, I do my
best not to damage my nails, although I do get carried away sometimes
and I end up chipping/cracking them!

Most of all, just go along with the moment and have some fun with it.
After all, guitar playing is meant to be fun and what's more fun than
playing for/with your friends and having the time of your lives doing
so?

Warm regards,
PERF
http://www.perfdecastro.com

PS In the unlikely event that you mess up, you can always blame the
guitar! The perfect scapegoat hehehehe

I've never encountered quite that problem, LOL.

~Pauline


--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "stepheno164"
<sao0002@u...> wrote:
> Hey everyone, this is stephen odom.  It's nice to see that yall
> started this temporary forum!!
>
> Man, don't you hate this?  Last night I was at a bar and my CD was
> playing over the loudspeakers between the breaks a folk guitarist
> was taking.  People got to talking, and I started getting all
these
> requests to play although I was only there to have a good time,
not
> perform.  They nudged and nudged me to play, but I kept
> saying, "It's a steel-string!  It's not the same!  I really can't
> play at 100%!"  Finally I gave in, and the guy put me over the
> loudspeakers.  I played a little bit, and it went okay, but I know
> that I can sound ten times better if I am playing on a regular
> classical.  It was kinda cool because "Yesterday" came off really
> well, but I feel like it wasn't up to par for what I usually can
> do.  I had the whole bar singing and watching me!  But I can't
stand
> being requested to play when there's only a steel-string guitar
> around.  Have any of you had this problem?  I hate it because if I
> refuse to play, I look like a snob.  But it really IS a lot
> different, ya know?
>
> What do yall do in these situations?
>
> stephen

Hey everyone, this is stephen odom.  It's nice to see that yall
started this temporary forum!!

Man, don't you hate this?  Last night I was at a bar and my CD was
playing over the loudspeakers between the breaks a folk guitarist
was taking.  People got to talking, and I started getting all these
requests to play although I was only there to have a good time, not
perform.  They nudged and nudged me to play, but I kept
saying, "It's a steel-string!  It's not the same!  I really can't
play at 100%!"  Finally I gave in, and the guy put me over the
loudspeakers.  I played a little bit, and it went okay, but I know
that I can sound ten times better if I am playing on a regular
classical.  It was kinda cool because "Yesterday" came off really
well, but I feel like it wasn't up to par for what I usually can
do.  I had the whole bar singing and watching me!  But I can't stand
being requested to play when there's only a steel-string guitar
around.  Have any of you had this problem?  I hate it because if I
refuse to play, I look like a snob.  But it really IS a lot
different, ya know?

What do yall do in these situations?

stephen

z

Hi Des,

Have today ordered a new guitar from UK luthier, one Earl Marsh. Earl drove
100+ miles to my home to show me a range of four of his instruments from
which I chose the one I fell in love with. The point of this is he told me to
keep
the humidity to a level of 50% which pretty much endorses Carl's advice.

Regards,

Ivor...



--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "dbirch123" <dbirch1@e...>
wrote:
> Dear Carl,
>
> Thank you very very much.
>
> When I got my humidifier home and set up, it told me that the air in
> our house was at 30%. I told that to a friend and he told me, that
> is enough to wreck any guitar. But I didn't know how much I needed.
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> Desmond
>
>
> --- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, Carl Shubitowski
> <crshuby@y...> wrote:
> > Desmond,
> >
> > Anywhere between 40% & 60% should be fine according to my luthier
> > friends.  At least that's what we shoot for when building classical
> > guitars.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > --- dbirch123 <dbirch1@e...> wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I am brand new to this group. I post at acoustic guitar.
> > > The servers are down over there, and Pauline the
> > > Moderator, told me I could get expert advice and help
> > > here.
> > >
> > > I live in Denver where it is very very dry. I have been
> > > using an internal humidifier. But that has not been
> > > getting the job done. So I bought a large capacity Hunter
> > > room humidifier with is digitally adjustable in 5%
> > > relative humidity increments.
> > >
> > > I originally set it at 40%. Pauline says she thinks that
> > > is only marginally enough. But she said to ask over here
> > > where there would be experts who could advise me better.
> > >
> > > Desmond
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Hi Des,

Have today ordered a new guitar from UK luthier, one Earl Marsh. Earl drove
100+ miles to my home to show me a range of four of his instruments from
which I chose the one I fell in love with. The point of this is he told me to
keep
the humidity to a level of 50% which pretty much endorses Carl's advice.

Regards,

Ivor...



--- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, "dbirch123" <dbirch1@e...>
wrote:
> Dear Carl,
>
> Thank you very very much.
>
> When I got my humidifier home and set up, it told me that the air in
> our house was at 30%. I told that to a friend and he told me, that
> is enough to wreck any guitar. But I didn't know how much I needed.
>
> Again, thank you.
>
> Desmond
>
>
> --- In ClassicalGuitarForum@yahoogroups.com, Carl Shubitowski
> <crshuby@y...> wrote:
> > Desmond,
> >
> > Anywhere between 40% & 60% should be fine according to my luthier
> > friends.  At least that's what we shoot for when building classical
> > guitars.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > --- dbirch123 <dbirch1@e...> wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > I am brand new to this group. I post at acoustic guitar.
> > > The servers are down over there, and Pauline the
> > > Moderator, told me I could get expert advice and help
> > > here.
> > >
> > > I live in Denver where it is very very dry. I have been
> > > using an internal humidifier. But that has not been
> > > getting the job done. So I bought a large capacity Hunter
> > > room humidifier with is digitally adjustable in 5%
> > > relative humidity increments.
> > >
> > > I originally set it at 40%. Pauline says she thinks that
> > > is only marginally enough. But she said to ask over here
> > > where there would be experts who could advise me better.
> > >
> > > Desmond
> > >
> > >
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