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Subject: Re: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -
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Thanks for the offer, but the way that youtube is set up you are guilty until proven innocent. There is little that you can do to remedy a situation where people are "out to get you (last night they removed 16 videos from the deviafan account)." Copyright claims are difficult to prove in either direction. So, you just have to take the steps youtube has set into place and wait for their decision. There is no explaining your situation, you just complete a legal form and hope for the best. The down side is that when you complete the legal form they provided you open yourself up for future litigation on copyright violation.
It's?a mess, and I hope it is resolved soon.
-----Original Message-----
From: Era Desso <eradesso@...>
To: Devia@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -
Just when I though the bad news were over... it is really a tradegy and we should try to do a petition or something!
You didn't only share gems by Devia but many dozens of other amazing artists and we should try to get all the fans and friends that have always loved your hard work to stand up for you in the name of art.
-----Original Message-----
From: Takis Pavl. <dutchbaron@yahoo. com>
To: Devia@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2009 6:34 am
Subject: Re: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -
hi all, Dillon I'm sorry to hear your account is in trouble again. Oddly enough however, youtube has just removed my Devia videos as well! Mine weren't even videos, just audio samples. Oh well.. maybe we have the same enemies...who knows.
best,
Takis
From: "JON8804@aol. com" <JON8804@aol. com>
To: Devia@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, 21 June, 2009 1:04:43
Subject: Re: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -
Hi Dillon,
?
?I certainly wish you the best with your claim.? You have done so much to further my appreciation of Ms. Devia. I had always liked her but had no idea of how great she is until I saw her many videos that you were good enough to provide.
?
It is unfortunate that someone who doesn't like you should deprive opera lovers of such great singing, especially at a time when that is in such short supply.
?
Please keep up the fight and let us know if there is anything that we can do to help.
?
Jon
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In a message dated 6/19/2009 9:03:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, loganfacincy26@ aol.com writes:
Hello Olivier and group members....
As many of you know... I am (or was) coloraturafan on youtube. Yes, my channel was closed today. This is due to a copy right claim made by "Mariella Devia." As we all know, Ms. Devia had nothing to do with this claim on youtube. Rather, this is a desperate measure taken by someone who doesn't like me. My account on youtube had over 1800 videos, and I had invested much time, hard work, and love of the art. The account was closed last year, and at that time I fought the claim and won. Unfortunately, it is a long and hard fight (last time it took over a month). I don't think I have the energy to fight it again. I have sent youtube a standard letter denying the copy right claim, so we will see what happens from here on.
Wish me luck!
Dillon
-----Original Message-----
From: saol67 <saol67@yahoo. fr>
To: Devia@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jun 19, 2009 3:55 pm
Subject: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -
DEAR MARIELLA FANS,
I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT THAT A LOT OF MARIELLA AMAZING OPERAS/RECITALS HIGHLIGHTS ON WWW.YOUTUBE. COM HAVE BEEN REMOVED/DELETED.
SOME ARE SHOWING "UPON MARIELLA DEVIA'S REQUEST"
C'EST UNE CATASTROPHE !!!!!!!!
ONE OF YOU KNOWS WHETHER MARIELLA AND/OR AGENT HAS REQUESTED CANCELLATION AND FOR WHAT REASONS ?
OLIVIER
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<WBR>Hi Leo,<br>
<br>
Thanks for the offer, but the way that youtube is set up you are guilty until proven innocent. There is little that you can do to remedy a situation where people are "out to get you (last night they removed 16 videos from the deviafan account)." Copyright claims are difficult to prove in either direction. So, you just have to take the steps youtube has set into place and wait for their decision. There is no explaining your situation, you just complete a legal form and hope for the best. The down side is that when you complete the legal form they provided you open yourself up for future litigation on copyright violation.<br>
<br>
It's a mess, and I hope it is resolved soon. <br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Era Desso <eradesso@...><br>
To: Devia@yahoogroups.com<br>
Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2009 3:18 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -<br>
<br>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif">
<div>Just when I though the bad news were over... it is really a tradegy and we should try to do a petition or something! <br>
You didn't only share gems by Devia but many dozens of other amazing artists and we should try to get all the fans and friends that have always loved your hard work to stand up for you in the name of art.<br>
<br>
Let us know if we can do something!<br>
Leo<br>
</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br>
<div><br>
Hello Takis and group,<br>
<br>
It is the same person, and they are ALL of our enemies... they hate Devia. They are trying to eliminate her from youtube.<br>
<br>
I am goint to fight the copyright claims on youtube. Also I have started a new site:<br>
<br>
<A href="http://marielladevia.blogspot.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://marielladevi a.blogspot. com/</A><br>
<br>
Best to all,<br>
Dillon<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Takis Pavl. <dutchbaron@yahoo. com><br>
To: Devia@yahoogroups. com<br>
Sent: Mon, Jun 22, 2009 6:34 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>hi all, Dillon I'm sorry to hear your account is in trouble again. Oddly enough however, youtube has just removed my Devia videos as well! Mine weren't even videos, just audio samples. Oh well.. maybe we have the same enemies...who knows. </div>
<div><STRONG> I certainly wish you the best with your claim. You have done so much to further my appreciation of Ms. Devia. I had always liked her but had no idea of how great she is until I saw her many videos that you were good enough to provide.</STRONG></div>
<div><STRONG></STRONG> </div>
<div><STRONG>It is unfortunate that someone who doesn't like you should deprive opera lovers of such great singing, especially at a time when that is in such short supply.</STRONG></div>
<div><STRONG></STRONG> </div>
<div><STRONG>Please keep up the fight and let us know if there is anything that we can do to help.</STRONG></div>
<div><STRONG></STRONG> </div>
<div><STRONG>Jon</STRONG></div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div>In a message dated 6/19/2009 9:03:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, loganfacincy26@ <A href="http://aol.com/" target=_blank>aol.com</A> writes:</div>
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<br>
Hello Olivier and group members....<br>
<br>
As many of you know... I am (or was) coloraturafan on youtube. Yes, my channel was closed today. This is due to a copy right claim made by "Mariella Devia." As we all know, Ms. Devia had nothing to do with this claim on youtube. Rather, this is a desperate measure taken by someone who doesn't like me. My account on youtube had over 1800 videos, and I had invested much time, hard work, and love of the art. The account was closed last year, and at that time I fought the claim and won. Unfortunately, it is a long and hard fight (last time it took over a month). I don't think I have the energy to fight it again. I have sent youtube a standard letter denying the copy right claim, so we will see what happens from here on. <br>
<br>
Wish me luck!<br>
<br>
Dillon<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: saol67 <saol67@yahoo. fr><br>
To: Devia@yahoogroups. com<br>
Sent: Fri, Jun 19, 2009 3:55 pm<br>
Subject: [Devia] MARIELLA ON YOUTUBE -<br>
<br>
<div>DEAR MARIELLA FANS,<br>
<br>
I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT THAT A LOT OF MARIELLA AMAZING OPERAS/RECITALS HIGHLIGHTS ON <A title=http://www.youtube/ href="http://www.youtube/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>WWW.YOUTUBE</A>. COM HAVE BEEN REMOVED/DELETED. <br>
<br>
SOME ARE SHOWING "UPON MARIELLA DEVIA'S REQUEST"<br>
<br>
C'EST UNE CATASTROPHE !!!!!!!! <br>
<br>
ONE OF YOU KNOWS WHETHER MARIELLA AND/OR AGENT HAS REQUESTED CANCELLATION AND FOR WHAT REASONS ? <br>
<br>
OLIVIER<br>
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DEAR MARIELLA FANS, I HAVE JUST FOUND OUT THAT A LOT OF MARIELLA AMAZING OPERAS/RECITALS HIGHLIGHTS ON WWW.YOUTUBE.COM HAVE BEEN REMOVED/DELETED. SOME ARE...
Hello Olivier and group members.... As many of you know... I am (or was) coloraturafan on youtube. Yes, my channel was closed today. This is due to a copy...
Hi Dillon, I certainly wish you the best with your claim. You have done so much to further my appreciation of Ms. Devia. I had always liked her but had no ...
hi all, Dillon I'm sorry to hear your account is in trouble again. Oddly enough however, youtube has just removed my Devia videos as well! Mine weren't even...
Hello Takis and group, It is the same person, and they are ALL of our enemies... they hate Devia. They are trying to eliminate her from youtube. I am goint to...
Just when I though the bad news were over... it is really a tradegy and we should try to do a petition or something! You didn't only share gems by Devia but...
Hi Leo, Thanks for the offer, but the way that youtube is set up you are guilty until proven innocent. There is little that you can do to remedy a situation...
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