I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a 8x8 matrix made with
3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a manufacturer that
produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets at a much better price
compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far. Some of you may have
noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the Manual Gate A-164-1, Switched
Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and the new version of
A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be possible to built a 8x8
matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for a manufacturer of
shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or resistors).

I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range but I still have to wait
for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer and our assembly company.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer


> I have one Doepfer portable rack configured with AS and Doepfer
> modules that are similar to the AKSs layout. I don't have all of the
> modules in a AKS of course - no meter or KS keyboard or fixed output
> filters for instance. I also haven't bought the trapezoid clones or
> EMS filter so it is not a real close clone - close enough for me to
> re-create the patches I commonly made on the Synthi A. I'm at work
> now so I can't give you the exact module list but mainly it is mostly
> Doepfer with 2 AS VCOs (the no longer made RS90 - it had the wave-
> shaping I wanted) and the AS joystick (modified to be mounted upside
> down - cables get in the way otherwise) and a custom made dual manual
> gate panel. The things it has that are different than the Synthi are
> dual Ring modulator, VC envelope generator, MIDI, mixer and VC
> panner, and some more. I have re-arranged it a few times and there is
> allot you can fit in that case. The main thing for me is to find or
> make a joystick module that feels and acts like you want. It is the
> main interface to play on the rig for me. A inverter module and lots
> of multiples are needed too. Having a inverter is great - the way you
> had to do inversion on the Synthi was a drag - I often have the
> joystick's axis used in both regular and inverted at the same time.
> The EMS matrix will spoil you totally and you will need to make or
> buy lots of mults. If I ever find a source for the jacks used in the
> Doepfer/AS modules in the US - I would love to make a matrix patcher
> - lots of jacks needed though! To make one cheaply you would have to
> hardwire it to the modules and there goes the flexibility of a
> modular placement. At that point you might as well make a large
> custom panel, take the panels off AS and D modules and mount them to
> it - hardwired to the matrix. I always wanted to make a SEM-like
> voice module that way with AS and Doepfer modules packed closely in
> one panel and normalized to a standard patch. Oh well - now I'm
> rambling - slow day here today.
> -James

great!


--- hardware@... wrote:

> I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a
> 8x8 matrix made with
> 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a
> manufacturer that
> produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets
> at a much better price
> compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far.
> Some of you may have
> noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the
> Manual Gate A-164-1, Switched
> Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and
> the new version of
> A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be
> possible to built a 8x8
> matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for
> a manufacturer of
> shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or
> resistors).
>
> I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range
> but I still have to wait
> for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer
> and our assembly company.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
> > I have one Doepfer portable rack configured with
> AS and Doepfer
> > modules that are similar to the AKSs layout. I
> don't have all of the
> > modules in a AKS of course - no meter or KS
> keyboard or fixed output
> > filters for instance. I also haven't bought the
> trapezoid clones or
> > EMS filter so it is not a real close clone - close
> enough for me to
> > re-create the patches I commonly made on the
> Synthi A. I'm at work
> > now so I can't give you the exact module list but
> mainly it is mostly
> > Doepfer with 2 AS VCOs (the no longer made RS90 -
> it had the wave-
> > shaping I wanted) and the AS joystick (modified to
> be mounted upside
> > down - cables get in the way otherwise) and a
> custom made dual manual
> > gate panel. The things it has that are different
> than the Synthi are
> > dual Ring modulator, VC envelope generator, MIDI,
> mixer and VC
> > panner, and some more. I have re-arranged it a few
> times and there is
> > allot you can fit in that case. The main thing for
> me is to find or
> > make a joystick module that feels and acts like
> you want. It is the
> > main interface to play on the rig for me. A
> inverter module and lots
> > of multiples are needed too. Having a inverter is
> great - the way you
> > had to do inversion on the Synthi was a drag - I
> often have the
> > joystick's axis used in both regular and inverted
> at the same time.
> > The EMS matrix will spoil you totally and you will
> need to make or
> > buy lots of mults. If I ever find a source for the
> jacks used in the
> > Doepfer/AS modules in the US - I would love to
> make a matrix patcher
> > - lots of jacks needed though! To make one cheaply
> you would have to
> > hardwire it to the modules and there goes the
> flexibility of a
> > modular placement. At that point you might as well
> make a large
> > custom panel, take the panels off AS and D modules
> and mount them to
> > it - hardwired to the matrix. I always wanted to
> make a SEM-like
> > voice module that way with AS and Doepfer modules
> packed closely in
> > one panel and normalized to a standard patch. Oh
> well - now I'm
> > rambling - slow day here today.
> > -James
>
>


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Great news! I'd prefer various pins with different resistor values
since they'll allow to attentuate the signal/CV sources selectively .
AFAIK pins with diodes are only suitable for gate signals, however, I
could be misinformed. Rgds, Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <hardware@...> wrote:
>
> I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a 8x8 matrix made
with
> 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a manufacturer that
> produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets at a much better
price
> compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far. Some of you may have
> noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the Manual Gate A-164-1,
Switched
> Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and the new version of
> A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be possible to
built a 8x8
> matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for a manufacturer of
> shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or resistors).
>
> I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range but I still have
to wait
> for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer and our assembly
company.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
> > I have one Doepfer portable rack configured with AS and Doepfer
> > modules that are similar to the AKSs layout. I don't have all of the
> > modules in a AKS of course - no meter or KS keyboard or fixed output
> > filters for instance. I also haven't bought the trapezoid clones or
> > EMS filter so it is not a real close clone - close enough for me to
> > re-create the patches I commonly made on the Synthi A. I'm at work
> > now so I can't give you the exact module list but mainly it is mostly
> > Doepfer with 2 AS VCOs (the no longer made RS90 - it had the wave-
> > shaping I wanted) and the AS joystick (modified to be mounted upside
> > down - cables get in the way otherwise) and a custom made dual manual
> > gate panel. The things it has that are different than the Synthi are
> > dual Ring modulator, VC envelope generator, MIDI, mixer and VC
> > panner, and some more. I have re-arranged it a few times and there is
> > allot you can fit in that case. The main thing for me is to find or
> > make a joystick module that feels and acts like you want. It is the
> > main interface to play on the rig for me. A inverter module and lots
> > of multiples are needed too. Having a inverter is great - the way you
> > had to do inversion on the Synthi was a drag - I often have the
> > joystick's axis used in both regular and inverted at the same time.
> > The EMS matrix will spoil you totally and you will need to make or
> > buy lots of mults. If I ever find a source for the jacks used in the
> > Doepfer/AS modules in the US - I would love to make a matrix patcher
> > - lots of jacks needed though! To make one cheaply you would have to
> > hardwire it to the modules and there goes the flexibility of a
> > modular placement. At that point you might as well make a large
> > custom panel, take the panels off AS and D modules and mount them to
> > it - hardwired to the matrix. I always wanted to make a SEM-like
> > voice module that way with AS and Doepfer modules packed closely in
> > one panel and normalized to a standard patch. Oh well - now I'm
> > rambling - slow day here today.
> > -James
>

Hi David, learned from the A.Haven list that you've ordered an
Accutronics reverb tank. Pls report back your findings. Best rgds, Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "deastman2" <deastman2@...> wrote:
>
> I'm the one who was asking about the Accutronics tanks on the Analogue
> Haven forum... Dieter, can you confirm that we want the insulated
> input and grounded output configuration?
>
> Thanks,
> David
>

I'm late, it's an old thread. However, I've done a small demo after
the pot change. The demo has no musical approach whatsoever but to
demonstrate the tamed self oscilation of my modified module. Still
you'll note significant differences in volume when cranking up the
resonace pot however to me it's much more usable. Keep in mind my
A101-2 is a prototype even though I *guess* it's soundwise very
similiar to the produced modules, I could be wrong on that. Tim,
thanks again for your assistence.
The link:
http://www.twango.com/media/Ilanode.public/Ilanode.10004
Best rgds, Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe" <timothy@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Ingo,
>
> > Hello Tim, thank you very much for your efforts. Highly appreciated.
>
> My pleasure!
>
> > Thanks to your suggestion and my solder sucker I've swapped the B50K
> > pot for a C50K in a fly. The result is much more to my liking.
>
> Great, sounds like we're moving in the right direction!
>
> > I still like to give your 2nd mod a try but I'm not sure wether I
> get
> > it.
>
> OK, but...
>
> > Even worse my A101-2 is a prototype thus there are no part numbers
> > on the board.
>
> ...thus your module *might* be slightly different!
>
> > Pls verify if I've understood how to proceed:
> > I'm going to link the res. pots wiper (= 2nd pin i.e. the one in the
> > middle)
> <snip>
>
> As you look at the pot from the front, simply short the middle pin to
> the right-hand end - if your module *is* as the schematic I have,
> this end should go to the 47k resistor, and pin 2 on the amplifier
> chip (LM324), and a 100p cap. If the wiper is already connected to
> this point, then it looks like it may have got changed for the
> production version (it is a fairly subtle change after all!) - the
> other end of the 47k should go to ground, and you *don't* want to
> connect the wiper there! If you're still not sure, get back to me.
>
> I'm just about finished writing up some slightly more detailed notes,
> mostly for my own benefit, but I will send a copy to Dieter so that
> he can see what I have done/am suggesting.
>
> As I mentioned before it is possibly that this change will move the
> whole resonance peak down to a lower pot setting - if this is
> happening you should detect that the resonance *decreases* again as
> the pot is rotated further clockwise from some given point. If you
> think this is happening let me know, and I can probably make a
> suggestion on how to cure it (basically replacing that 47k with a
> slightly larger value).
>
> Good luck,
>
> Tim
>

great news,

Any idea when it could be ready? maybe sometime this year?  :)

C.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, <hardware@...> wrote:
>
> I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a 8x8 matrix made
with
> 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a manufacturer that
> produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets at a much better
price
> compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far. Some of you may have
> noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the Manual Gate A-164-1,
Switched
> Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and the new version of
> A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be possible to
built a 8x8
> matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for a manufacturer of
> shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or resistors).
>
> I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range but I still have
to wait
> for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer and our assembly
company.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
> > I have one Doepfer portable rack configured with AS and Doepfer
> > modules that are similar to the AKSs layout. I don't have all of the
> > modules in a AKS of course - no meter or KS keyboard or fixed output
> > filters for instance. I also haven't bought the trapezoid clones or
> > EMS filter so it is not a real close clone - close enough for me to
> > re-create the patches I commonly made on the Synthi A. I'm at work
> > now so I can't give you the exact module list but mainly it is mostly
> > Doepfer with 2 AS VCOs (the no longer made RS90 - it had the wave-
> > shaping I wanted) and the AS joystick (modified to be mounted upside
> > down - cables get in the way otherwise) and a custom made dual manual
> > gate panel. The things it has that are different than the Synthi are
> > dual Ring modulator, VC envelope generator, MIDI, mixer and VC
> > panner, and some more. I have re-arranged it a few times and there is
> > allot you can fit in that case. The main thing for me is to find or
> > make a joystick module that feels and acts like you want. It is the
> > main interface to play on the rig for me. A inverter module and lots
> > of multiples are needed too. Having a inverter is great - the way you
> > had to do inversion on the Synthi was a drag - I often have the
> > joystick's axis used in both regular and inverted at the same time.
> > The EMS matrix will spoil you totally and you will need to make or
> > buy lots of mults. If I ever find a source for the jacks used in the
> > Doepfer/AS modules in the US - I would love to make a matrix patcher
> > - lots of jacks needed though! To make one cheaply you would have to
> > hardwire it to the modules and there goes the flexibility of a
> > modular placement. At that point you might as well make a large
> > custom panel, take the panels off AS and D modules and mount them to
> > it - hardwired to the matrix. I always wanted to make a SEM-like
> > voice module that way with AS and Doepfer modules packed closely in
> > one panel and normalized to a standard patch. Oh well - now I'm
> > rambling - slow day here today.
> > -James
>

stumbled on these last time I was dreaming of making an VSC3 clone:
http://www.ghielmetti.ch/englisch/index.htm
and then click "Products" and then "Custom made Matrix Boards and
Signal Distributors".

regards
AB



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted
<the_ersatz_planet@...> wrote:
>
> I have one Doepfer portable rack configured with AS and Doepfer
> modules that are similar to the AKSs layout. I don't have all of the
> modules in a AKS of course - no meter or KS keyboard or fixed output
> filters for instance. I also haven't bought the trapezoid clones or
> EMS filter so it is not a real close clone - close enough for me to
> re-create the patches I commonly made on the Synthi A. I'm at work
> now so I can't give you the exact module list but mainly it is mostly
> Doepfer with 2 AS VCOs (the no longer made RS90 - it had the wave-
> shaping I wanted) and the AS joystick (modified to be mounted upside
> down - cables get in the way otherwise) and a custom made dual manual
> gate panel. The things it has that are different than the Synthi are
> dual Ring modulator, VC envelope generator, MIDI, mixer and VC
> panner, and some more. I have re-arranged it a few times and there is
> allot you can fit in that case. The main thing for me is to find or
> make a joystick module that feels and acts like you want. It is the
> main interface to play on the rig for me. A inverter module and lots
> of multiples are needed too. Having a inverter is great - the way you
> had to do inversion on the Synthi was a drag - I often have the
> joystick's axis used in both regular and inverted at the same time.
> The EMS matrix will spoil you totally and you will need to make or
> buy lots of mults. If I ever find a source for the jacks used in the
> Doepfer/AS modules in the US - I would love to make a matrix patcher
> - lots of jacks needed though! To make one cheaply you would have to
> hardwire it to the modules and there goes the flexibility of a
> modular placement. At that point you might as well make a large
> custom panel, take the panels off AS and D modules and mount them to
> it - hardwired to the matrix. I always wanted to make a SEM-like
> voice module that way with AS and Doepfer modules packed closely in
> one panel and normalized to a standard patch. Oh well - now I'm
> rambling - slow day here today.
> -James
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:28 PM, johnppp2 wrote:
>
> > Great stuff everyone, very helpful. james, could i ask specifically
> > what is in your AKS emulating rack?
> >
> >
> >
>

Will do.  I should have it in about a week.  Time permitting, I'll try
to post a comparison between the standard Doepfer tank and the
Accutronics next weekend.

David

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ilanode" <techmeier@...> wrote:
>
> Hi David, learned from the A.Haven list that you've ordered an
> Accutronics reverb tank. Pls report back your findings. Best rgds,
Ingo
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "deastman2" <deastman2@> wrote:
> >
> > I'm the one who was asking about the Accutronics tanks on the
Analogue
> > Haven forum... Dieter, can you confirm that we want the insulated
> > input and grounded output configuration?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > David
> >
>

Dieter-
I planned at one time to make a matrix with !/4" switchcraft High
density stereo jacks (I worked at a company that used them and I could
get them cheap - and I had a bunch of SEM modules). The plan was to
run the output lines on the tip's and the input lines on the Rings -
ground as ground. That way you could put trimmers in the plugs and use
them to have different levels at different patch points. This setup
also allowed any crosspoint  to be used as insert jack to other
external equipment when a stereo plug "Y-cord" was used. This way you
could insert a VCA at a crosspoint for instance - very handy. if a
mono plug is inserted all the way it would work as a patch out (but
would short that row input - not a bad thing for a SEM) but if only
inserted half way would act as a input on that buss. I would also
suggest bringing the rows/columns out to a multi-pin header in the pcb
so that multiple matrixes could be chained together. Can't wait to see
this module. How wide a panel is planned?

BTW loved the NAMM video. A short video on each just-released module
would be a great selling tool. No expensive production needed - the
camera aimed at the module and a hand and voice added. Ship me the
modules and let me keep them and I will do the videos for free! (like
everyone on this list with a camera would do also!).

-James

On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM, hardware@... wrote:

> I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a 8x8 matrix made
> with
> 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a manufacturer that
> produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets at a much better
> price
> compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far. Some of you may
> have
> noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the Manual Gate A-164-1,
> Switched
> Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and the new version
> of
> A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be possible to
> built a 8x8
> matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for a manufacturer of
> shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or resistors).
>
> I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range but I still have
> to wait
> for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer and our assembly
> company.
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
>> I have one Doepfer portable rack configured with AS and Doepfer
>> modules that are similar to the AKSs layout. I don't have all of the
>> modules in a AKS of course - no meter or KS keyboard or fixed output
>> filters for instance. I also haven't bought the trapezoid clones or
>> EMS filter so it is not a real close clone - close enough for me to
>> re-create the patches I commonly made on the Synthi A. I'm at work
>> now so I can't give you the exact module list but mainly it is mostly
>> Doepfer with 2 AS VCOs (the no longer made RS90 - it had the wave-
>> shaping I wanted) and the AS joystick (modified to be mounted upside
>> down - cables get in the way otherwise) and a custom made dual manual
>> gate panel. The things it has that are different than the Synthi are
>> dual Ring modulator, VC envelope generator, MIDI, mixer and VC
>> panner, and some more. I have re-arranged it a few times and there is
>> allot you can fit in that case. The main thing for me is to find or
>> make a joystick module that feels and acts like you want. It is the
>> main interface to play on the rig for me. A inverter module and lots
>> of multiples are needed too. Having a inverter is great - the way you
>> had to do inversion on the Synthi was a drag - I often have the
>> joystick's axis used in both regular and inverted at the same time.
>> The EMS matrix will spoil you totally and you will need to make or
>> buy lots of mults. If I ever find a source for the jacks used in the
>> Doepfer/AS modules in the US - I would love to make a matrix patcher
>> - lots of jacks needed though! To make one cheaply you would have to
>> hardwire it to the modules and there goes the flexibility of a
>> modular placement. At that point you might as well make a large
>> custom panel, take the panels off AS and D modules and mount them to
>> it - hardwired to the matrix. I always wanted to make a SEM-like
>> voice module that way with AS and Doepfer modules packed closely in
>> one panel and normalized to a standard patch. Oh well - now I'm
>> rambling - slow day here today.
>> -James
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

howdy
I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions how to prevent the tank from
clanging
when using it in a live situation.  I'm performing with a drummer and anytime we
play at a
small venue the tank makes excessive spring noises due to our close proximity. 
I
currently have the tank mount inside of a portable suitcase.  Before I take any
actions, I
wanted to know if you guys or gals have any suggestions in preventing or
limiting this
problem.   thanks!

maybe damp the springs just a little bit? that way you still have reverb
but considerably less clanging. just a thought.


anthonyjanas wrote:
>
>
> howdy
> I was wondering if anyone has any suggestions how to prevent the tank
> from clanging
> when using it in a live situation. I'm performing with a drummer and
> anytime we play at a
> small venue the tank makes excessive spring noises due to our close
> proximity. I
> currently have the tank mount inside of a portable suitcase. Before I
> take any actions, I
> wanted to know if you guys or gals have any suggestions in preventing or
> limiting this
> problem. thanks!
>
>
>
>
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8:30 PM

"Ship me the modules and let me keep them and I will do the videos"

Ha ha me too.. but I really enjoyed Dieter's demo. After watching video after
video of sales
and marketing types over-hype and hawk their NAMM products, it was very
refreshing to
watch someone present their cool new products without all that obnoxious BS.



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted <the_ersatz_planet@...> wrote:
>
> Dieter-
> I planned at one time to make a matrix with !/4" switchcraft High
> density stereo jacks (I worked at a company that used them and I could
> get them cheap - and I had a bunch of SEM modules). The plan was to
> run the output lines on the tip's and the input lines on the Rings -
> ground as ground. That way you could put trimmers in the plugs and use
> them to have different levels at different patch points. This setup
> also allowed any crosspoint  to be used as insert jack to other
> external equipment when a stereo plug "Y-cord" was used. This way you
> could insert a VCA at a crosspoint for instance - very handy. if a
> mono plug is inserted all the way it would work as a patch out (but
> would short that row input - not a bad thing for a SEM) but if only
> inserted half way would act as a input on that buss. I would also
> suggest bringing the rows/columns out to a multi-pin header in the pcb
> so that multiple matrixes could be chained together. Can't wait to see
> this module. How wide a panel is planned?
>
> BTW loved the NAMM video. A short video on each just-released module
> would be a great selling tool. No expensive production needed - the
> camera aimed at the module and a hand and voice added. Ship me the
> modules and let me keep them and I will do the videos for free! (like
> everyone on this list with a camera would do also!).
>
> -James
>
> On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM, hardware@... wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a 8x8 matrix made
> > with
> > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a manufacturer that
> > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets at a much better
> > price
> > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far. Some of you may
> > have
> > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the Manual Gate A-164-1,
> > Switched
> > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and the new version
> > of
> > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be possible to
> > built a 8x8
> > matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for a manufacturer of
> > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or resistors).
> >
> > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range but I still have
> > to wait
> > for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer and our assembly
> > company.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> >
> >> I have one Doepfer portable rack configured with AS and Doepfer
> >> modules that are similar to the AKSs layout. I don't have all of the
> >> modules in a AKS of course - no meter or KS keyboard or fixed output
> >> filters for instance. I also haven't bought the trapezoid clones or
> >> EMS filter so it is not a real close clone - close enough for me to
> >> re-create the patches I commonly made on the Synthi A. I'm at work
> >> now so I can't give you the exact module list but mainly it is mostly
> >> Doepfer with 2 AS VCOs (the no longer made RS90 - it had the wave-
> >> shaping I wanted) and the AS joystick (modified to be mounted upside
> >> down - cables get in the way otherwise) and a custom made dual manual
> >> gate panel. The things it has that are different than the Synthi are
> >> dual Ring modulator, VC envelope generator, MIDI, mixer and VC
> >> panner, and some more. I have re-arranged it a few times and there is
> >> allot you can fit in that case. The main thing for me is to find or
> >> make a joystick module that feels and acts like you want. It is the
> >> main interface to play on the rig for me. A inverter module and lots
> >> of multiples are needed too. Having a inverter is great - the way you
> >> had to do inversion on the Synthi was a drag - I often have the
> >> joystick's axis used in both regular and inverted at the same time.
> >> The EMS matrix will spoil you totally and you will need to make or
> >> buy lots of mults. If I ever find a source for the jacks used in the
> >> Doepfer/AS modules in the US - I would love to make a matrix patcher
> >> - lots of jacks needed though! To make one cheaply you would have to
> >> hardwire it to the modules and there goes the flexibility of a
> >> modular placement. At that point you might as well make a large
> >> custom panel, take the panels off AS and D modules and mount them to
> >> it - hardwired to the matrix. I always wanted to make a SEM-like
> >> voice module that way with AS and Doepfer modules packed closely in
> >> one panel and normalized to a standard patch. Oh well - now I'm
> >> rambling - slow day here today.
> >> -James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

>>how to prevent the tank from clanging
>>when using it in a live situation....

I have my tank wrapped in fiberglass insulation
paper side out. Then that little bundle is
zip-tied to the inside of the case. That
works pretty well. If that's not enough
I'd suggest using longer cables and sitting
the tank on the outside of the case on some
foam and maybe more foam on top of that.
Try different materials to "de-couple"
the spring tank from surrounding vibrations.
The funny thing I just thought of is,
guitarist have been using spring
reverbs in their amps on stage for years
with out that many issues. Is it because
a twin reverb is heavy as hell and operating
at such higher levels?

Thanks for the advice!! I think I may try out your idea.

> The funny thing I just thought of is,
> guitarist have been using spring
> reverbs in their amps on stage for years
> with out that many issues. Is it because
> a twin reverb is heavy as hell and operating
> at such higher levels?
>

I think you may have a point with the tank being heavier as well as the amp
itself is much
heavier than a portable suitcase sitting on top of a shakey keyboard stand.

Hey, you gave me ideas, I just found 2 accutronics rvb tanks in an old
guitar amp and a Wersi organ (with approx 35cm long springs !!) I'll
wire them to the A199 and post some sound examples.
Cheers,
Max.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "deastman2" <deastman2@...> wrote:
>
> Will do.  I should have it in about a week.  Time permitting, I'll try
> to post a comparison between the standard Doepfer tank and the
> Accutronics next weekend.
>
> David
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ilanode" <techmeier@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi David, learned from the A.Haven list that you've ordered an
> > Accutronics reverb tank. Pls report back your findings. Best rgds,
> Ingo
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "deastman2" <deastman2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm the one who was asking about the Accutronics tanks on the
> Analogue
> > > Haven forum... Dieter, can you confirm that we want the insulated
> > > input and grounded output configuration?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > David
> > >
> >
>

> Just imagine a A100P suitcase with two 8 x8 matrix and a DIY
> keyboard about the same size----this will be incredible
>

> The 8 x 8 Matrix is a major coup---this is huge and it would not
> surprise me if Doepfers market share increases many times because
> of this one module.
>


>




Dave



> On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM, hardware@... wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a 8x8 matrix made
> > with
> > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a manufacturer that
> > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets at a much better
> > price
> > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far. Some of you may
> > have
> > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the Manual Gate A-164-1,
> > Switched
> > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and the new version
> > of
> > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be possible to
> > built a 8x8
> > matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for a
> manufacturer of
> > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or resistors).
> >
> > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range but I still have
> > to wait
> > for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer and our assembly
> > company.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
>
>
>



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Schneiders Beuro are planning something similar but as a standalone: i hope this
links works

http://www.schneidersbuero.de/index.php?sect=products&lang=en&product=Steckbox%2\
08x8%20V1%20Verbindungsmatrix&hersteller=SchneidersBuero&kategorie=hersteller&cu\
rrency=EURO_BRUTTO

maybe a joint venture could be interesting?

the interesting thing about these ideas is that the jack plug could be a
potentiometer, on off switch, a pressure pad, a light sensor... which takes us
way beyond the VCS3!

I would buy one of these like a shot

Richard

----- Original Message -----
   From: David Bulog
   To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:43 PM
   Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO
?


   > Just imagine a A100P suitcase with two 8 x8 matrix and a DIY
   > keyboard about the same size----this will be incredible
   >

   > The 8 x 8 Matrix is a major coup---this is huge and it would not
   > surprise me if Doepfers market share increases many times because
   > of this one module.
   >

   >

   Dave

   > On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM, hardware@... wrote:
   >
   > > I just wanted to inform you that we are working on a 8x8 matrix made
   > > with
   > > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we found a manufacturer that
   > > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm sockets at a much better
   > > price
   > > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so far. Some of you may
   > > have
   > > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the Manual Gate A-164-1,
   > > Switched
   > > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger combiner and the new version
   > > of
   > > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it should be possible to
   > > built a 8x8
   > > matrix at affordable costs. We are still looking for a
   > manufacturer of
   > > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes or resistors).
   > >
   > > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120 range but I still have
   > > to wait
   > > for the quotations of our front panel manufacturer and our assembly
   > > company.
   > >
   > > Best wishes
   > > Dieter Doepfer
   > >
   >
   >
   >

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Hi,

This looks good. Just posted the link to some other
forums..

grtz Bruce


--- Richard Scott <richard_scott@...> wrote:

> Schneiders Beuro are planning something similar but
> as a standalone: i hope this links works
>
>
http://www.schneidersbuero.de/index.php?sect=products&lang=en&product=Steckbox%2\
08x8%20V1%20Verbindungsmatrix&hersteller=SchneidersBuero&kategorie=hersteller&cu\
rrency=EURO_BRUTTO
>
> maybe a joint venture could be interesting?
>
> the interesting thing about these ideas is that the
> jack plug could be a potentiometer, on off switch, a
> pressure pad, a light sensor... which takes us way
> beyond the VCS3!
>
> I would buy one of these like a shot
>
> Richard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: David Bulog
>   To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:43 PM
>   Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module
> to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?
>
>
>   > Just imagine a A100P suitcase with two 8 x8
> matrix and a DIY
>   > keyboard about the same size----this will be
> incredible
>   >
>
>   > The 8 x 8 Matrix is a major coup---this is huge
> and it would not
>   > surprise me if Doepfers market share increases
> many times because
>   > of this one module.
>   >
>
>   >
>
>   Dave
>
>   > On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM, hardware@...
> wrote:
>   >
>   > > I just wanted to inform you that we are
> working on a 8x8 matrix made
>   > > with
>   > > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we
> found a manufacturer that
>   > > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm
> sockets at a much better
>   > > price
>   > > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so
> far. Some of you may
>   > > have
>   > > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the
> Manual Gate A-164-1,
>   > > Switched
>   > > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger
> combiner and the new version
>   > > of
>   > > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it
> should be possible to
>   > > built a 8x8
>   > > matrix at affordable costs. We are still
> looking for a
>   > manufacturer of
>   > > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes
> or resistors).
>   > >
>   > > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120
> range but I still have
>   > > to wait
>   > > for the quotations of our front panel
> manufacturer and our assembly
>   > > company.
>   > >
>   > > Best wishes
>   > > Dieter Doepfer
>   > >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
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I dont like it at all---standalone = messy messy messy
I think Doepfer looks and a Eurorack format will be much better

Dave
On 3/02/2008, at 10:47 AM, bruce thedekaa wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This looks good. Just posted the link to some other
> forums..
>
> grtz Bruce
>
> --- Richard Scott <richard_scott@...> wrote:
>
> > Schneiders Beuro are planning something similar but
> > as a standalone: i hope this links works
> >
> >
> http://www.schneidersbuero.de/index.php?
> sect=products&lang=en&product=Steckbox%208x8%20V1%
> 20Verbindungsmatrix&hersteller=SchneidersBuero&kategorie=hersteller&cu
> rrency=EURO_BRUTTO
> >
> > maybe a joint venture could be interesting?
> >
> > the interesting thing about these ideas is that the
> > jack plug could be a potentiometer, on off switch, a
> > pressure pad, a light sensor... which takes us way
> > beyond the VCS3!
> >
> > I would buy one of these like a shot
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: David Bulog
> > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module
> > to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?
> >
> >
> > > Just imagine a A100P suitcase with two 8 x8
> > matrix and a DIY
> > > keyboard about the same size----this will be
> > incredible
> > >
> >
> > > The 8 x 8 Matrix is a major coup---this is huge
> > and it would not
> > > surprise me if Doepfers market share increases
> > many times because
> > > of this one module.
> > >
> >
> > >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > > On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM, hardware@...
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just wanted to inform you that we are
> > working on a 8x8 matrix made
> > > > with
> > > > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we
> > found a manufacturer that
> > > > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm
> > sockets at a much better
> > > > price
> > > > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so
> > far. Some of you may
> > > > have
> > > > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the
> > Manual Gate A-164-1,
> > > > Switched
> > > > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger
> > combiner and the new version
> > > > of
> > > > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it
> > should be possible to
> > > > built a 8x8
> > > > matrix at affordable costs. We are still
> > looking for a
> > > manufacturer of
> > > > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes
> > or resistors).
> > > >
> > > > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120
> > range but I still have
> > > > to wait
> > > > for the quotations of our front panel
> > manufacturer and our assembly
> > > > company.
> > > >
> > > > Best wishes
> > > > Dieter Doepfer
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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But once it's in your modular you get the same wire's
hanging everywhere (at least i have that)... With this
i can control the modular from a distance. I guess it
depends on the way you make music.

grtz Bruce

--- David Bulog <d2ba@...> wrote:

> I dont like it at all---standalone = messy messy
> messy
> I think Doepfer looks and a Eurorack format will be
> much better
>
> Dave
> On 3/02/2008, at 10:47 AM, bruce thedekaa wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > This looks good. Just posted the link to some
> other
> > forums..
> >
> > grtz Bruce
> >
> > --- Richard Scott <richard_scott@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Schneiders Beuro are planning something similar
> but
> > > as a standalone: i hope this links works
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.schneidersbuero.de/index.php?
> > sect=products&lang=en&product=Steckbox%208x8%20V1%
>
> >
>
20Verbindungsmatrix&hersteller=SchneidersBuero&kategorie=hersteller&cu
>
> > rrency=EURO_BRUTTO
> > >
> > > maybe a joint venture could be interesting?
> > >
> > > the interesting thing about these ideas is that
> the
> > > jack plug could be a potentiometer, on off
> switch, a
> > > pressure pad, a light sensor... which takes us
> way
> > > beyond the VCS3!
> > >
> > > I would buy one of these like a shot
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: David Bulog
> > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest
> module
> > > to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just imagine a A100P suitcase with two 8 x8
> > > matrix and a DIY
> > > > keyboard about the same size----this will be
> > > incredible
> > > >
> > >
> > > > The 8 x 8 Matrix is a major coup---this is
> huge
> > > and it would not
> > > > surprise me if Doepfers market share increases
> > > many times because
> > > > of this one module.
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > > On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM,
> hardware@...
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I just wanted to inform you that we are
> > > working on a 8x8 matrix made
> > > > > with
> > > > > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we
> > > found a manufacturer that
> > > > > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm
> > > sockets at a much better
> > > > > price
> > > > > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used
> so
> > > far. Some of you may
> > > > > have
> > > > > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g.
> the
> > > Manual Gate A-164-1,
> > > > > Switched
> > > > > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger
> > > combiner and the new version
> > > > > of
> > > > > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it
> > > should be possible to
> > > > > built a 8x8
> > > > > matrix at affordable costs. We are still
> > > looking for a
> > > > manufacturer of
> > > > > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes
> > > or resistors).
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro
> 100-120
> > > range but I still have
> > > > > to wait
> > > > > for the quotations of our front panel
> > > manufacturer and our assembly
> > > > > company.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes
> > > > > Dieter Doepfer
> > > > >
> > > >
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Future Music magazine had an article  on Simian Mobile Disco--a big
deal was made on the Doepfer Sequencer they use--to come with ideas
for bass lines by tweaking the knobs
Can anyone confirm it is a 154 +155? --the article would not give out
the model--

thanks David

it could get messy, I think it would need a multicore going to some kind of
patching module...

personally I'd much rather have a desk top module - I  don't like this vertical
way of working at all

Richard


   ----- Original Message -----
   From: bruce thedekaa
   To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 10:05 PM
   Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO
?


   But once it's in your modular you get the same wire's
   hanging everywhere (at least i have that)... With this
   i can control the modular from a distance. I guess it
   depends on the way you make music.

   grtz Bruce

   --- David Bulog <d2ba@...> wrote:

   > I dont like it at all---standalone = messy messy
   > messy
   > I think Doepfer looks and a Eurorack format will be
   > much better
   >
   > Dave
   > On 3/02/2008, at 10:47 AM, bruce thedekaa wrote:
   >
   > > Hi,
   > >
   > > This looks good. Just posted the link to some
   > other
   > > forums..
   > >
   > > grtz Bruce
   > >
   > > --- Richard Scott <richard_scott@...>
   > wrote:
   > >
   > > > Schneiders Beuro are planning something similar
   > but
   > > > as a standalone: i hope this links works
   > > >
   > > >
   > > http://www.schneidersbuero.de/index.php?
   > > sect=products&lang=en&product=Steckbox%208x8%20V1%
   >
   > >
   >
   20Verbindungsmatrix&hersteller=SchneidersBuero&kategorie=hersteller&cu
   >
   > > rrency=EURO_BRUTTO
   > > >
   > > > maybe a joint venture could be interesting?
   > > >
   > > > the interesting thing about these ideas is that
   > the
   > > > jack plug could be a potentiometer, on off
   > switch, a
   > > > pressure pad, a light sensor... which takes us
   > way
   > > > beyond the VCS3!
   > > >
   > > > I would buy one of these like a shot
   > > >
   > > > Richard
   > > >
   > > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > > From: David Bulog
   > > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
   > > > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:43 PM
   > > > Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest
   > module
   > > > to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > > Just imagine a A100P suitcase with two 8 x8
   > > > matrix and a DIY
   > > > > keyboard about the same size----this will be
   > > > incredible
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > > > The 8 x 8 Matrix is a major coup---this is
   > huge
   > > > and it would not
   > > > > surprise me if Doepfers market share increases
   > > > many times because
   > > > > of this one module.
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > > Dave
   > > >
   > > > > On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM,
   > hardware@...
   > > > wrote:
   > > > >
   > > > > > I just wanted to inform you that we are
   > > > working on a 8x8 matrix made
   > > > > > with
   > > > > > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we
   > > > found a manufacturer that
   > > > > > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm
   > > > sockets at a much better
   > > > > > price
   > > > > > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used
   > so
   > > > far. Some of you may
   > > > > > have
   > > > > > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g.
   > the
   > > > Manual Gate A-164-1,
   > > > > > Switched
   > > > > > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger
   > > > combiner and the new version
   > > > > > of
   > > > > > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it
   > > > should be possible to
   > > > > > built a 8x8
   > > > > > matrix at affordable costs. We are still
   > > > looking for a
   > > > > manufacturer of
   > > > > > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes
   > > > or resistors).
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro
   > 100-120
   > > > range but I still have
   > > > > > to wait
   > > > > > for the quotations of our front panel
   > > > manufacturer and our assembly
   > > > > > company.
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you really think doepfer modules LOOK good? I think they all look like
prototypes, industrial and not really finished, and those grey knobs.... yuk

about as pretty as behringer I would say, call me old fashioned but I think
there are two nice colours for a modular, black and white

doepfer get many marks from me for sound and function and price, but none at all
for looks!

Richard

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: David Bulog
   To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 10:00 PM
   Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO
?


   I dont like it at all---standalone = messy messy messy
   I think Doepfer looks and a Eurorack format will be much better

   Dave
   On 3/02/2008, at 10:47 AM, bruce thedekaa wrote:

   > Hi,
   >
   > This looks good. Just posted the link to some other
   > forums..
   >
   > grtz Bruce
   >
   > --- Richard Scott <richard_scott@...> wrote:
   >
   > > Schneiders Beuro are planning something similar but
   > > as a standalone: i hope this links works
   > >
   > >
   > http://www.schneidersbuero.de/index.php?
   > sect=products&lang=en&product=Steckbox%208x8%20V1%
   > 20Verbindungsmatrix&hersteller=SchneidersBuero&kategorie=hersteller&cu
   > rrency=EURO_BRUTTO
   > >
   > > maybe a joint venture could be interesting?
   > >
   > > the interesting thing about these ideas is that the
   > > jack plug could be a potentiometer, on off switch, a
   > > pressure pad, a light sensor... which takes us way
   > > beyond the VCS3!
   > >
   > > I would buy one of these like a shot
   > >
   > > Richard
   > >
   > > ----- Original Message -----
   > > From: David Bulog
   > > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
   > > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 7:43 PM
   > > Subject: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Closest module
   > > to an EMS Synthi / VCS3 VCO ?
   > >
   > >
   > > > Just imagine a A100P suitcase with two 8 x8
   > > matrix and a DIY
   > > > keyboard about the same size----this will be
   > > incredible
   > > >
   > >
   > > > The 8 x 8 Matrix is a major coup---this is huge
   > > and it would not
   > > > surprise me if Doepfers market share increases
   > > many times because
   > > > of this one module.
   > > >
   > >
   > > >
   > >
   > > Dave
   > >
   > > > On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:52 AM, hardware@...
   > > wrote:
   > > >
   > > > > I just wanted to inform you that we are
   > > working on a 8x8 matrix made
   > > > > with
   > > > > 3.5 mm jack sockets. The reason is that we
   > > found a manufacturer that
   > > > > produces a horizontal version of the 3.5 mm
   > > sockets at a much better
   > > > > price
   > > > > compared to the vertical Cliff sockets used so
   > > far. Some of you may
   > > > > have
   > > > > noticed these sockets in new modules (e.g. the
   > > Manual Gate A-164-1,
   > > > > Switched
   > > > > Multiples A-182-1, A-186-1 Gate/Trigger
   > > combiner and the new version
   > > > > of
   > > > > A-180 Multiples I). With these sockets it
   > > should be possible to
   > > > > built a 8x8
   > > > > matrix at affordable costs. We are still
   > > looking for a
   > > > manufacturer of
   > > > > shortening 3.5 mm jack plugs (or with diodes
   > > or resistors).
   > > > >
   > > > > I hope the matrix will be in the Euro 100-120
   > > range but I still have
   > > > > to wait
   > > > > for the quotations of our front panel
   > > manufacturer and our assembly
   > > > > company.
   > > > >
   > > > > Best wishes
   > > > > Dieter Doepfer
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I have an extra one, which I¹d like to sell. These sell new for $530. I¹ll
sell for $400 shipped (to continental U.S. only).

Gene


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still available?  If so, I'll take it.

Hope all is well with you.

Jim W.
San Mateo

-----Original Message-----
>From: Ancient Eyeball Recipe <implode7@...>
>Sent: Feb 2, 2008 9:12 PM
>To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Doepfer_a100] g6 case fs
>
>I have an extra one, which I¹d like to sell. These sell new for $530. I¹ll
>sell for $400 shipped (to continental U.S. only).
>
>Gene
>
>
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The Doepfer machine is as beautiful as the chance meeting of an
umbrella and a sewing machine on a dissecting table...

David Westling

> you really think doepfer modules LOOK good? I think they all look
> like prototypes, industrial and not really finished, and those grey
> knobs.... yuk
>
> about as pretty as behringer I would say, call me old fashioned but
> I think there are two nice colours for a modular, black and white
>
> doepfer get many marks from me for sound and function and price,
> but none at all for looks!
>
> Richard
>






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hi group, especially florian,

i'm thinking about building a simple keyboard replacement - different
arrangement of the keys but still the tempered scale. i think i know
how i want to do it, but i'd appreciate any advice that anybody may have.

first question to florian (or anybody that has his book griffbereit):
on page 32 of your book "synthesizer" you have a simple diagram of a
control voltage generator, each resistance corresponding to one key on
the keyboard. what would you recommend as a suitable value for the
resistors? and should i be using 5v as shown in the previous diagram,
or 12v as stated in the text?

secondly, i intend to produce the gate by simply putting the control
voltage through a comparator - everything above 0v opens the gate.
does anyone foresee any problems here?

and any other problems i've overlooked?

all comments much appreciated,

stu

Stu-
   I know this may be out of your price range - and may not fit your
design criteria - but for ease of assembly have you thought of the
Doepfer CTM64 or MKE combined with a  MCV4 or A-190. The limitations
are no portamento and you will be defaulting to tempered scales but
you could have LOTS of switches/buttons plus the added modulation and
pitch bend inputs.

-James

On Feb 3, 2008, at 3:49 AM, Stu Grimshaw wrote:

> hi group, especially florian,
>
> i'm thinking about building a simple keyboard replacement - different
> arrangement of the keys but still the tempered scale. i think i know
> how i want to do it, but i'd appreciate any advice that anybody may
> have.
>
> first question to florian (or anybody that has his book griffbereit):
> on page 32 of your book "synthesizer" you have a simple diagram of a
> control voltage generator, each resistance corresponding to one key on
> the keyboard. what would you recommend as a suitable value for the
> resistors? and should i be using 5v as shown in the previous diagram,
> or 12v as stated in the text?
>
> secondly, i intend to produce the gate by simply putting the control
> voltage through a comparator - everything above 0v opens the gate.
> does anyone foresee any problems here?
>
> and any other problems i've overlooked?
>
> all comments much appreciated,
>
> stu
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

OK this may be starting a rather pointless discussion,
but who cares how Doepfer modules look? They work.
Some companies may have cooler knobs and creative names
for their modules like Livewire, but the Doepfer stuff
is affordable, does what it is supposed to do and has
the biggest selection of products in the EuroRack format.
And what's so "old fashioned" and great about a modular
being black and white? Lots of great classic modulars
used other colors in the panel designs. I don't know
I don't want to offend any one but owning a small
modular set up made up of mostly Doepfer modules
has afforded me a wonderful sonic pallet to work
from for my music. Just some thoughts on the matter....

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, James Husted
<the_ersatz_planet@...> wrote:
>
> Stu-
>   I know this may be out of your price range - and may not fit your
> design criteria - but for ease of assembly have you thought of the
> Doepfer CTM64 or MKE combined with a  MCV4 or A-190. The limitations
> are no portamento and you will be defaulting to tempered scales but
> you could have LOTS of switches/buttons plus the added modulation and
> pitch bend inputs.
>
> -James
>

hi james,

that was actually the original plan, but the pure analog attempt has a
few features that i find appealing: power comes from the modular, the
resistors will not be completely accurate, i save myself a midi-to-cv
converter (although i have a couple) and it's all so hands-on when it
comes to adding pitch bend and firing off a gate while holding a note
etc. i save myself a ton of wiring too - all of which needs to be
soldered!

if it is as simple (though rudimentary) as i think it is, then the
analog way is easier, as well as offering opportunities for more
individual features/limitations/quirks. i love quirks :)

relying totally on a single control voltage solution (so no release
envelopes here unless we inclue a s+h) also allows me to use the a112
sampler to record melodies and such - the necessary gates are still
produced by cv>0v and therefore don't need to be recorded separately.
my dream is to leave the electribe at  home :)

cheers,

stu