> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ALMAGATA@... [mailto:josue@...]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 29. November 2003 12:01
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111
>
>
> Hi People,
>
> I was testing both VCOs on scope and I noticed the SAW from 110 and 111
> are reversed: the 111 have a ramp instead of a saw wave so the printed
> graphic of the front panel is not corresponding with the wave out.
> Anyone noticed this "fault"?

For the human ear there is no difference between rising and falling saw.
Simply try to insert a voltage inverter into an audio signal. You will hear
no difference. But you are right, the labelling is wrong (but after more
than 5 years you are the first customer who noticed that "fault".

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> > Unfortunately Roland Mayer is not in the company
> > today. He is responsible
> > for the A-133. I found a hand-written comment that
> > the amplification of the
> > A-133 was reduced to about -2.5 ... +2.5 as an
> > amplification of +/-5 would
> > cause heavy clipping with most of the usual A-100
> > signals (e.g. VCO, LFO,
> > ADSR). So the (preliminary) specifiaction on the
> > A-133 web site is wrong in
> > any case and has to be replaced by ~ -2.5 ... +2.5.
> > But the assymetry of
> > your A-133 is not OK and I tried another A-133 in
> > our company. It is even
> > assymmetric. We will find out whats wrong on monday
> > when Roland is in the
> > company again. I will report back the results on
> > Monday.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer

any news?

best wishes

ingo

Hi Dieter and list,

Really there is no hearing difference at audio rates but when using the
VCOs as modulation you`ll notice the difference.
BTW, one of my favorites VCOs are the ARP ones, they are also ramp
instead saw and they are mislabelled in front panel ;)
I was thinking you can`t get a ramp using an inverter from a saw wave..
you`ll ned to reverse the wave, not invert it...Right?
Best regards,

Josue Arias.

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@...>
Fecha: Lunes, Diciembre 1, 2003 10:14 am
Asunto: AW: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111

> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: ALMAGATA@... [mailto:josue@...]
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 29. November 2003 12:01
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111
> >
> >
> > Hi People,
> >
> > I was testing both VCOs on scope and I noticed the SAW from 110
> and 111
> > are reversed: the 111 have a ramp instead of a saw wave so the
> printed> graphic of the front panel is not corresponding with the
> wave out.
> > Anyone noticed this "fault"?
>
> For the human ear there is no difference between rising and
> falling saw.
> Simply try to insert a voltage inverter into an audio signal. You
> will hear
> no difference. But you are right, the labelling is wrong (but
> after more
> than 5 years you are the first customer who noticed that "fault".
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
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hello josue,

i think there should be no difference between a reversed and
an inverted sawtooth, as long as it is bi-polar and symmetrical
around zero like the vco's.

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ALMAGATA@t..." <josue@A...>
wrote:
> Hi Dieter and list,
>
> Really there is no hearing difference at audio rates but when using
the
> VCOs as modulation you`ll notice the difference.
> BTW, one of my favorites VCOs are the ARP ones, they are also ramp
> instead saw and they are mislabelled in front panel ;)
> I was thinking you can`t get a ramp using an inverter from a saw
wave..
> you`ll ned to reverse the wave, not invert it...Right?
> Best regards,
>
> Josue Arias.
>
> ----- Mensaje Original -----
> De: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@d...>
> Fecha: Lunes, Diciembre 1, 2003 10:14 am
> Asunto: AW: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111
>
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: ALMAGATA@t... [mailto:josue@A...]
> > > Gesendet: Samstag, 29. November 2003 12:01
> > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi People,
> > >
> > > I was testing both VCOs on scope and I noticed the SAW from 110
> > and 111
> > > are reversed: the 111 have a ramp instead of a saw wave so the
> > printed> graphic of the front panel is not corresponding with the
> > wave out.
> > > Anyone noticed this "fault"?
> >
> > For the human ear there is no difference between rising and
> > falling saw.
> > Simply try to insert a voltage inverter into an audio signal. You
> > will hear
> > no difference. But you are right, the labelling is wrong (but
> > after more
> > than 5 years you are the first customer who noticed that "fault".
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
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I'm a modular neophyte, enjoying my A-100 BS2.  Endless fun!
Just wanted to pop a quick nøte across to the man himself
saying thanks.  I'm awaiting arrival of the A-149's to Doug and
then I shall have portable case #2 with the following modules:

A-111 Hi-End Oscillator

A-112 Sampler/Wavetable Oscillator

A-135  VC Mixer

A-136 Distortion/Waveshaper

A-141 VC ADSR

A-144 Morphing Controller

A-147 VC LFO

A-149 Source of Pancake Batter

A-162 Dual Trigger Delay

A-170 Slew Limiter (bypassed on case #1 in favor of A-119)

A-174 Joystück

A-175 Dual VC Invertor

A-178 (2) Thereminae

A-180 (2) Multiple Multiple Multiples

A-199 Spring Reverb

I am excited.  Yes, I should say so.

--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@...> wrote:
> From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@...>
> To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@...>
> Subject: AW: AW: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on
> Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111
> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 10:31:33 +0100
>
> > Hi Dieter and list,
> >
> > Really there is no hearing difference at audio
> rates but when using the
> > VCOs as modulation you`ll notice the difference.
> > BTW, one of my favorites VCOs are the ARP ones,
> they are also ramp
> > instead saw and they are mislabelled in front
> panel ;)
> > I was thinking you can`t get a ramp using an
> inverter from a saw wave..
> > you`ll ned to reverse the wave, not invert
> it...Right?
>
> What's the difference between reverse and invert ?
> If we talk about
> waveforms there should be no difference, only DC
> offsets could make a
> difference (e.g. if the waveform goes from 0V to +5V
> it will go from 0V
> to -5V after processing with the voltage inverter
> A-175 inverter, a waveform
> from -2.5V to +2.5V will go from +2.5V to -2.5V
> behind the A-175).
>
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>


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Yes Ingo, you are right,

Was a first thinking and I missed was a bipolar wave.

Best regards,

Josue.

----- Mensaje Original -----
De: "selfoscillate" <synaptic_music@...>
Fecha: Viernes, Diciembre 5, 2003 7:27 am
Asunto: Re: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111

>
>
> hello josue,
>
> i think there should be no difference between a reversed and
> an inverted sawtooth, as long as it is bi-polar and symmetrical
> around zero like the vco's.
>
> best wishes
>
> ingo
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "ALMAGATA@t..." <josue@A...>
> wrote:
> > Hi Dieter and list,
> >
> > Really there is no hearing difference at audio rates but when
> using
> the
> > VCOs as modulation you`ll notice the difference.
> > BTW, one of my favorites VCOs are the ARP ones, they are also
> ramp
> > instead saw and they are mislabelled in front panel ;)
> > I was thinking you can`t get a ramp using an inverter from a saw
> wave..
> > you`ll ned to reverse the wave, not invert it...Right?
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Josue Arias.
> >
> > ----- Mensaje Original -----
> > De: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@d...>
> > Fecha: Lunes, Diciembre 1, 2003 10:14 am
> > Asunto: AW: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111
> >
> > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > Von: ALMAGATA@t... [mailto:josue@A...]
> > > > Gesendet: Samstag, 29. November 2003 12:01
> > > > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] More comments on Doepfer VCOs 110 vs 111
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi People,
> > > >
> > > > I was testing both VCOs on scope and I noticed the SAW from
> 110
> > > and 111
> > > > are reversed: the 111 have a ramp instead of a saw wave so
> the
> > > printed> graphic of the front panel is not corresponding with
> the
> > > wave out.
> > > > Anyone noticed this "fault"?
> > >
> > > For the human ear there is no difference between rising and
> > > falling saw.
> > > Simply try to insert a voltage inverter into an audio signal.
> You
> > > will hear
> > > no difference. But you are right, the labelling is wrong (but
> > > after more
> > > than 5 years you are the first customer who noticed that "fault".
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > > Dieter Doepfer
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I shall soon be commencing on my custom case.

Because i have an oversized psu, i shall be fitting fuses on each or the bus
boards.  Each board will supply no more then 168 hp of modules (ie a g6
worth).

The text on the website says:

" This power supply is built into the basic frames (3HU and 6HU) and has a
max. current of 650mA for both +12V and -12V. "


The only point that im going to get this ampage summed is on the ground, but
then that wouldn't protect against shorts to the enclosure (well, the
enclosure will be wood, but still...).  The other option is to fuse the plus
and minus rails separately, which is easy enough, but then what sort of
capacity fuses should i be thinking of?  Fast blow or slow blow?

Cheers, Julian

hello list

had my A149-1 this saturday
spent hours testing ant trying.
the patch called "random patch" which is in the german user manula is
interresting. i've tried other stuff as well.
somehow I find it a bit difficult to imagine such logical patch.
what have you done with the A149 so far?

alexandre

Maybe the multiple LFO culd be interesting for patches with A149. I
feel you need to use many LFO's with this module.

hello alexandre,

i used it quite a lot since i got the a149-1.
can't describe patches in detail, i used it
for vco-pitch, vcf-cutoff, vcf-resonance (together with
an a176 and a172), decay-time on a141 and a142,
lfo-speed on a147, slew-time on a171, probably everywhere
i used noise and s&h before. i even used the a149-1 to
modulate itself. also great is triggering with an a155,
giving random values on several steps only. the a167 is
also good in combination with the a149-1.

i can't wait to get the a149-2. i really never was a big fan
of random patches, but the a149-1 changed my mind on this.

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger" <x2wm@h...> wrote:
> hello list
>
> had my A149-1 this saturday
> spent hours testing ant trying.
> the patch called "random patch" which is in the german user manula
is
> interresting. i've tried other stuff as well.
> somehow I find it a bit difficult to imagine such logical patch.
> what have you done with the A149 so far?
>
> alexandre

--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@...> wrote:
> From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@...>
> To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@...>
> Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A149 : ideas
> Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 11:54:29 +0100
>
> > hello list
> >
> > had my A149-1 this saturday
> > spent hours testing ant trying.
> > the patch called "random patch" which is in the
> german user manula is
> > interresting. i've tried other stuff as well.
> > somehow I find it a bit difficult to imagine such
> logical patch.
> > what have you done with the A149 so far?
>
> I recommend to read the corresponding section of
> Allen Strange's excellent
> book.
> Sorry - due to copyright reasons we are not allowed
> to scan the pages and
> publish them on our web site. But within the gruop
> this should be legal -
> but I'm not sure ?
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter
>
>


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dieter says:
"We start to translate the manuals into English this
week. As we have no A-107 left (yes, the A-107 are
completely sold out) we have to wait to try some
patches (e.g. filter sequences). But as we expect the
next lot of A-107 today or tomorrow it will take only
a few days.

As soon as the "fine tunes" of the A-154 are finished
we will start the production series. This will
probably include these modules and come about February
2004 (still without obligation): A-101-3 Modular
Vactrol Phaser, A-137 Wave Multiplier, A-149-2 Digital
Random voltages, A-154 Sequencer Controller, A-197
Analog Meter.

There are still some discussions for the A-154 and
A-149-2. A-154: E.g. we discuss a 3-position switch
(instead of two 2-position switches) with these
functions: 8 steps / 16 steps / external control
(instead of two switches for 8/16 steps and
internal/external control). For the A-149-2 we discuss
if the advance to the next output combination should
be triggered by one or both clock inputs of the
A-149-1. So far it's triggered by both clocks but we
are not sure if it should be triggered e.g. by the
upper clock only.
Best  wishes
Dieter Doepfer"








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To those who have the A-149...are you European residents?  I
live in the USA and am still waiting for them to arrive at Sonic
Highway.  Doug says end of this week, but it's hard to tell.

The new modules from Doepfer are due to arrive in the US later this
week or early next.

Doug

Because basically I am very interested in making such a random patch.
let's say I want to just send something to vco-pitch; and make
something really random. By random i mean, maybe it goes ffrom really
quiet sometimes, slow, suddenly maybe active and chaotic like, and
then slow again, then maybe accelerating... so I am trying to use also
A150 to change the trigger for the A149. before triggering the A149 i
put A150. In the A150 I can put two different A147, each of them with
different random (A148-117) in cv in. then it becomes more random
like. but i want to go really much further, maybe by using an, nor or
exor function.
mmmmh, I am working on this.
also, few months ago I was one amongst few to ask for manual gate
module. What I do is I use the gate from A178 (theremin), to make the
pitch of vco really really treble. You can "lock" the gate with the
offset of the tehreim module, so gate is always one to control pitch
of vco. then I do the random stuff to the very high frequency A111.
I think a manual gate would be more practical than using this theremin
which sometimes is a bit of a drag when playing live, antenna is not
so much practical.
sorry, long message
alexandre - french lucky guy, we

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hi list

what is it Granular Processor?

bye bye

alexandre

this is something that is more common in digital systems.
a granular device is usually a sampler, which is able to chop
a signal into lots of tiny grains. then each grain gets a new
pitch, a new envelope and a new time position. this way you can
create completely new sounds out of any audio signal.

granular synthesis is standard with software like reaktor from
native instruments for example. i don't know if such a device
can be developed for an analogue system, because from my
understanding it is clearly digital. maybe we can achieve similar
sounds with a combination of the sampler module, the pll and the
forthcoming vc delay. anyway i think that the digital solution is
much better for this task.

best wishes

ingo




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger" <x2wm@h...
> wrote:
> hi list
>
> what is it Granular Processor?
>
> bye bye
>
> alexandre

Hello all,

Has anyone here actually done the "red to blue" LED replacement work?
  Are there any specific issues that I should be aware of?  I've got
three or four modules that I need to update soon.

Kindest regards,
John

the a112 has got to be a nice starting point for any doepfer granular work..

julian

(why do i never hear that much about the a112?  its probably the module
thats caused me to grin the widest when i first started using it...)


----- Original Message -----
From: "selfoscillate" <synaptic_music@...>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:36 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Granular Processor


>
> this is something that is more common in digital systems.
> a granular device is usually a sampler, which is able to chop
> a signal into lots of tiny grains. then each grain gets a new
> pitch, a new envelope and a new time position. this way you can
> create completely new sounds out of any audio signal.
>
> granular synthesis is standard with software like reaktor from
> native instruments for example. i don't know if such a device
> can be developed for an analogue system, because from my
> understanding it is clearly digital. maybe we can achieve similar
> sounds with a combination of the sampler module, the pll and the
> forthcoming vc delay. anyway i think that the digital solution is
> much better for this task.
>
> best wishes
>
> ingo
>
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger" <x2wm@h...
> > wrote:
> > hi list
> >
> > what is it Granular Processor?
> >
> > bye bye
> >
> > alexandre
>
>
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hello julian,
that's how i use my a112's most of the time.as simple
granular synthesis modules.
bakis.




--- Julian <julian@...> wrote:
> the a112 has got to be a nice starting point for any
> doepfer granular work..
>
> julian
>
> (why do i never hear that much about the a112?  its
> probably the module
> thats caused me to grin the widest when i first
> started using it...)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "selfoscillate" <synaptic_music@...>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:36 PM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Granular Processor
>
>
> >
> > this is something that is more common in digital
> systems.
> > a granular device is usually a sampler, which is
> able to chop
> > a signal into lots of tiny grains. then each grain
> gets a new
> > pitch, a new envelope and a new time position.
> this way you can
> > create completely new sounds out of any audio
> signal.
> >
> > granular synthesis is standard with software like
> reaktor from
> > native instruments for example. i don't know if
> such a device
> > can be developed for an analogue system, because
> from my
> > understanding it is clearly digital. maybe we can
> achieve similar
> > sounds with a combination of the sampler module,
> the pll and the
> > forthcoming vc delay. anyway i think that the
> digital solution is
> > much better for this task.
> >
> > best wishes
> >
> > ingo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger"
> <x2wm@h...
> > > wrote:
> > > hi list
> > >
> > > what is it Granular Processor?
> > >
> > > bye bye
> > >
> > > alexandre
> >
> >
> >
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Yes, I've replaced leds in all of my modules with blue leds, I've
even fitted blue 7 segment displays to the A-113 subharmonic
generator and a blue LCD display to my Schaltwerk sequencer as well
as 200 rectangular blue leds - not for the faint hearted! (see files
area of Schaltwerk Yahoo group for pix of this mod)

For standard modules use 3mm Blue leds, if your UK get them from
Rapid electronics, Kingsbright L-934m series at 70 pence each. No
need to worry about changing current limiting resistors, they just
drop straight in.

Be particularly careful on the modules that use double sided pcb's,
the tracks are very thin and easily damaged - easiest way to remove
the old led is to heat both pads simultaniously with soldering iron
and then very carefully pull led out. Then use a de-soldering braid
to remove the old solder from the holes before inserting the new led.

Hope this helps,
Allan

  part  in the--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "John Talbert"
<jvtalbert@y...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone here actually done the "red to blue" LED replacement
work?
>  Are there any specific issues that I should be aware of?  I've got
> three or four modules that I need to update soon.
>
> Kindest regards,
> John

I changed one red LED for a ultra-bright green LED. Just for fun to see
how it will look like.
In my opinion the light is too bright and diffuse so you cannot see the
faceplate labelling anymore. And anoher problem with ultra-bright LEDs:
They need a higher voltage before they start to work. For "digital"
signals (on/off like the gate LED on A-190 or step LEDs in a sequencer)
it is okay, but in the A-140 Envelope generator you hear the influence
of the envelope before the LED starts shining...
And now my system is equipped with red LEDs only, like before.

Paul


John Talbert wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone here actually done the "red to blue" LED replacement work?
> Are there any specific issues that I should be aware of?  I've got
> three or four modules that I need to update soon.
>
> Kindest regards,
> John
>
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--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@...> wrote:
> From: "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@...>
> To: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@...>
> Subject: AW: [Doepfer_a100] A149, total random
> possibilities patch
> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 15:44:25 +0100
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Bilinger [mailto:x2wm@...]
> > Gesendet: Montag, 8. Dezember 2003 23:49
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] A149, total random
> possibilities patch
> >
> >
> > Because basically I am very interested in making
> such a random patch.
> > let's say I want to just send something to
> vco-pitch; and make
> > something really random. By random i mean, maybe
> it goes ffrom really
> > quiet sometimes, slow, suddenly maybe active and
> chaotic like, and
> > then slow again, then maybe accelerating... so I
> am trying to use also
> > A150 to change the trigger for the A149. before
> triggering the A149 i
> > put A150. In the A150 I can put two different
> A147, each of them with
> > different random (A148-117) in cv in. then it
> becomes more random
> > like. but i want to go really much further, maybe
> by using an, nor or
> > exor function.
>
> How about the A-117 output (set at low frequency) as
> clock input for the
> A-149-1 (maybe additionally divided by A-160) ?
>
> Dieter Doepfer
>
>
>


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I love my a112, i don't understand either why no-one ever talks
about it, one of the best modules.

Again, I am a big fan of granular synthesis, I use it alot in my
music using software such as CDP and GRANULAB, I doubt it could be
as effect in the analog world, but why not make a digital module to
fit in the a100 (like the a112 or Asys delay). I remember we
discussed a digital VCO once!

Just incase I get attacked from all corners for supporting digital,
I am NOT asking for a digital module, just suggesting....

John




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> hello julian,
> that's how i use my a112's most of the time.as simple
> granular synthesis modules.
> bakis.
>
>
>
>
> --- Julian <julian@2...> wrote:
> > the a112 has got to be a nice starting point for any
> > doepfer granular work..
> >
> > julian
> >
> > (why do i never hear that much about the a112?  its
> > probably the module
> > thats caused me to grin the widest when i first
> > started using it...)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "selfoscillate" <synaptic_music@y...>
> > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:36 PM
> > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Granular Processor
> >
> >
> > >
> > > this is something that is more common in digital
> > systems.
> > > a granular device is usually a sampler, which is
> > able to chop
> > > a signal into lots of tiny grains. then each grain
> > gets a new
> > > pitch, a new envelope and a new time position.
> > this way you can
> > > create completely new sounds out of any audio
> > signal.
> > >
> > > granular synthesis is standard with software like
> > reaktor from
> > > native instruments for example. i don't know if
> > such a device
> > > can be developed for an analogue system, because
> > from my
> > > understanding it is clearly digital. maybe we can
> > achieve similar
> > > sounds with a combination of the sampler module,
> > the pll and the
> > > forthcoming vc delay. anyway i think that the
> > digital solution is
> > > much better for this task.
> > >
> > > best wishes
> > >
> > > ingo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger"
> > <x2wm@h...
> > > > wrote:
> > > > hi list
> > > >
> > > > what is it Granular Processor?
> > > >
> > > > bye bye
> > > >
> > > > alexandre
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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> Yes, I've replaced leds in all of my modules with blue leds, I've
> even fitted blue 7 segment displays to the A-113 subharmonic
> generator and a blue LCD display to my Schaltwerk sequencer as well
> as 200 rectangular blue leds - not for the faint hearted! (see files
> area of Schaltwerk Yahoo group for pix of this mod)
You almost read my mind there!  I also have an MAQ16/3 that is going
to require not only the LED replacements but also the LCD will need to
be replaced with blue as well.  Although I'll more than likely see if
Doug at Sonic Highway can perform this task.  At some point, I'm sure
to end up in the future with at least one module that has the LED
display so I hope that ordering those modules in blue will also come
with the LCD already replaced.


> For standard modules use 3mm Blue leds, if your UK get them from
> Rapid electronics, Kingsbright L-934m series at 70 pence each. No
> need to worry about changing current limiting resistors, they just
> drop straight in.
I'm in the US so I just had Doug order the "official" blue LEDs from
Doepfer for updating my current modules like the A145, A118, A170 and
A127.  My other modules already have blue LEDs (and I love them!).



> Be particularly careful on the modules that use double sided pcb's,
> the tracks are very thin and easily damaged - easiest way to remove
> the old led is to heat both pads simultaniously with soldering iron
> and then very carefully pull led out. Then use a de-soldering braid
> to remove the old solder from the holes before inserting the new
> led.
Thanks.  I appreciate the advice.

Kindest regards,
John

hi john,
i agree!i want a granular processor module for my a100
and i don't care if it's digital or not.what this
module would be? a vc sampler(16 bit this time) with
the capability of random playback of tiny clips(much
more than 256 clips)of the incoming sound.it could
have cv inputs for various granular synthesis
parameters and a pitch cv input.it could ,maybe,also
had a cv input for the number of clips that the
incoming sound would be cut into!cv input for sample
start and end point,cv input for bit resolution,clock
input for the grain output rate(for synchonizing the
grain s speed with an incoming clock with a clock
frequency multiplier included,and a gate input for
selection of forward/backwards playback of the sample
and grains.and an LCD display for easy operation.this
would be awesome.
what do you say dieter?
bakis.





--- jmaddocks1975 <jmaddocks1975@...> wrote:
> I love my a112, i don't understand either why no-one
> ever talks
> about it, one of the best modules.
>
> Again, I am a big fan of granular synthesis, I use
> it alot in my
> music using software such as CDP and GRANULAB, I
> doubt it could be
> as effect in the analog world, but why not make a
> digital module to
> fit in the a100 (like the a112 or Asys delay). I
> remember we
> discussed a digital VCO once!
>
> Just incase I get attacked from all corners for
> supporting digital,
> I am NOT asking for a digital module, just
> suggesting....
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hello julian,
> > that's how i use my a112's most of the time.as
> simple
> > granular synthesis modules.
> > bakis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Julian <julian@2...> wrote:
> > > the a112 has got to be a nice starting point for
> any
> > > doepfer granular work..
> > >
> > > julian
> > >
> > > (why do i never hear that much about the a112?
> its
> > > probably the module
> > > thats caused me to grin the widest when i first
> > > started using it...)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "selfoscillate" <synaptic_music@y...>
> > > To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:36 PM
> > > Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Granular Processor
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > this is something that is more common in
> digital
> > > systems.
> > > > a granular device is usually a sampler, which
> is
> > > able to chop
> > > > a signal into lots of tiny grains. then each
> grain
> > > gets a new
> > > > pitch, a new envelope and a new time position.
> > > this way you can
> > > > create completely new sounds out of any audio
> > > signal.
> > > >
> > > > granular synthesis is standard with software
> like
> > > reaktor from
> > > > native instruments for example. i don't know
> if
> > > such a device
> > > > can be developed for an analogue system,
> because
> > > from my
> > > > understanding it is clearly digital. maybe we
> can
> > > achieve similar
> > > > sounds with a combination of the sampler
> module,
> > > the pll and the
> > > > forthcoming vc delay. anyway i think that the
> > > digital solution is
> > > > much better for this task.
> > > >
> > > > best wishes
> > > >
> > > > ingo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com,
> "Bilinger"
> > > <x2wm@h...
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > hi list
> > > > >
> > > > > what is it Granular Processor?
> > > > >
> > > > > bye bye
> > > > >
> > > > > alexandre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email
> to:
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> > >
> >
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I like to use a control voltage to determine the density of events
occurring against a basic rhythmic foundation:  Sample the output of
a random voltage generator with a sample & hold clocked with an
LFO.  Then send the resulting clocked random voltages to a mixer,
and mix with a fixed voltage and some kind of control voltage. The
output of the mixer is sent to the control input of a voltage
controlled switch.   The voltage controlled switch is used to gate
the square wave output of the same LFO you used to clock the sample
and hold.

Now, you have square wave that can be used as a trigger or gate.
The density of the events it is triggering is controlled by the
level of the control voltage sent to the mixer input and the
attenuation of the gated random voltage.  An envelope can create a
process that becomes more or less dense over time, while another,
slower moving random signal would create random event density.   The
events themselves could be random, or pre-determined, such as a tone
row from a sequencer.


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Bilinger" <x2wm@h...> wrote:
> Because basically I am very interested in making such a random
patch.
> let's say I want to just send something to vco-pitch; and make
> something really random. By random i mean, maybe it goes ffrom
really
> quiet sometimes, slow, suddenly maybe active and chaotic like, and
> then slow again, then maybe accelerating... so I am trying to use
also
> A150 to change the trigger for the A149. before triggering the
A149 i
> put A150. In the A150 I can put two different A147, each of them
with
> different random (A148-117) in cv in. then it becomes more random
> like. but i want to go really much further, maybe by using an, nor
or
> exor function.
> mmmmh, I am working on this.
> also, few months ago I was one amongst few to ask for manual gate
> module. What I do is I use the gate from A178 (theremin), to make
the
> pitch of vco really really treble. You can "lock" the gate with
the
> offset of the tehreim module, so gate is always one to control
pitch
> of vco. then I do the random stuff to the very high frequency A111.
> I think a manual gate would be more practical than using this
theremin
> which sometimes is a bit of a drag when playing live, antenna is
not
> so much practical.
> sorry, long message
> alexandre - french lucky guy, we