EA-Wiki-Iberia : Message: mas de 40 OST en chile

Hola

El mensaje que pongo abajo está copiado de la lista OSLIST general: un
"practicante experimentado" en Chile - a quien ya he nombrado la
existencia de esta lista, por si puede/quiere venirse.

Al escribir a Johann Borquez recordé que existía esta lista, que la
olvidé durante el verano, y que estaba la idea de la traducción (que no
he olvidado). Espero poder empezar a traducir "gota a gota" el "User
Guide", y ya veremos qué hacemos.

Además, está la página "A Brief User's Guide to OST":
http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm
que me enviaron ya traducida!!! Creo que estaría bien ponerla en el
wiki o en algún otro sitio. ¿Hay que pedir permiso a HO? Por
educación, seguro. ¿O está ya puesta esa traducción en algún lado?

Espero que estén todos bien.

Lucas

--- Johann Borquez <zekrov@...> escribió:
> Fecha: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:02:36 -0300
> De: Johann Borquez <zekrov@...>
> Asunto: Re: [OSLIST] MORE THAN 40 OPEN SPACE MEETINGS IN CHILE
> Para: OSLIST@...
>

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Dear Harrison,

Your words are really encouraging. When I first knew about Open Space
Technology it seemed to me almost impossible to make it happen here.
Fortunately, soon after I received a request from the local government
to facilitate a meeting with more than 200 people. They were in a rush,
had almost no money, and no idea about how to make people talk in a
short period. I proposed Open Space and they were reluctant at the
beginning. In the end, the ended with a bunch of relevant issues, the
leaders who carried those issues at the grassroot level, and networks
of people around those same issues. Later I was hired by the Chile
Labour Training Agency (SENCE) which was having lots of trouble and
conflict with their clients, to facilitate Open Space Meetings in
several regions of Chile. It worked out so well, that they asked me to
prepare a national Open Space Meeting for the agency's workers. I have
a video on it prepared by them, which I will be glad to share with you.
Bad news are -! it's in Spanish.

It was so different from everything tried before, that my regional
government (Bio Bio Region) asked me to train the members of the
Intersectorial Committee on Citizen Participation (CIPAC) on Open Space
Technology. So I have trained people who now use OST in their
organizations -from Healthcare to Education- as a way of communication
with citizens. As an anecdote, I can tell you that the discussion about
the new Citizen Participation Law in my region was conducted in Open
Spaces with local grassroots leaders -in urban and rural areas alike-.

In the meantime, I have gained a huge experience. I have learned to
care more about certain issues -as the comfort of people in the room-
and less about others. I'm preparing a video and a paper about my
practice, and I hope to have them ready by November. Would it be very
nasty from my part to ask you to revise at least the paper and write
perhaps a stroke or two to begin it with?

It's been a hard way to make gov't leaders believe in transfering power
to the people to voice out their needs and dreams, but it's working
now. Thanks for everything. Thanks for sharing this amazing piece of
methodology with all of the world. Thanks for giving it a philosophy
which I -and many others, I think- can adhere to. I think this is the
most powerful tool for real human understanding since the invention of
the mobile type by Gutemberg.

Best wishes,

Johann Borquez Bohn

Open Space Practitioner

Chile

zekrov@...

>From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@...>
>Reply-To: OSLIST <OSLIST@...>
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>Subject: Re: MORE THAN 40 OPEN SPACE MEETINGS IN CHILE
>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 17:59:22 -0400
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>From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST@...] On Behalf Of
Johann
>Borquez
>Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 9:45 AM
>To: OSLIST@...
>Subject: MORE THAN 40 OPEN SPACE MEETINGS IN CHILE
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>
>Hi,
>
>I've been practicing Open Space in Chile for the last 4 years and I
have =
>to
>say that I AM GRATEFUL to Harrison and all the practitioners who add
to =
>this
>global learning experience and from which I have learned the =
>fundamentals to
>begin my own practice. The technology itself is -compared to other
>methodologies for Large Group Interventios- the lightest in terms of
>logistics, the quickest to be organized, and the one that get the best
>results from -and for- people. And it's cheap.
>
>All of the almost 40 Open Space Meetings I have facilitated had been
for =
>the
>Public Sector, i.e. State organizations ranging from Education to the
>Housing Service. Allmost always, the concerns of the clients have been
=
>the
>same: fear of "losing control" of what happens, of not being able to =
>cope
>with the demands of people, of being criticized openly, of not being =
>able to
>concentrate on the specific themes about which the Open Space is =
>convened.
>Also, they always remain skeptic about the minimal preparation
necessary =
>to
>make OST happen (they seem to think that it won't work and that I'm =
>bluffing
>them by being so "light"). All this concerns have been followed by =
>relief
>when the client sees that the OST really works, that the order emerges
=
>from
>chaos every time. Old clients have been the best promotors of the =
>Technology
>among new ones.
>
>My last experience is still developing, as on Saturday we met with
about =
>250
>leaders from the neighborhood on Pedro de Valdivia Bajo (a bidonville
by =
>the
>riverside) in the city of Concepcion, to plan the needed interventions
=
>from
>all the different State services to improve the area. The curious
thing =
>is
>that always, both conveners and participants evaluate the OST as the =
>"best"
>participatory experience they ever had. This was not the exception,
and =
>is a
>real achievement in a neighborhood with a history of conflict and
acute
>poverty. We have had illiterate group conveners! To help this, this
time =
>we
>had the help of student volunteers to take notes of the full =
>conversation in
>every group. My main fear was that the students could somehow
intervene =
>and
>manipulate the discussion, but it was they who, at the end of the day,
=
>were
>impressed by the quality of people's participation. This Open Space is
=
>still
>hapening, as next saturday (october 16th) we will meet again! to
discuss
>solutions for the discussed problems.
>
>Best wishes and keep on!
>
>=20
>
>Johann B=F3rquez Bohn
>
>Open Space Practitioner
>
>CHILE
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>
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>From: OSLIST
>[mailto:OSLIST@...] style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
>Behalf Of Johann Borquez 
>Sent: Tuesday, October
=
>12, 2004
>9:45 AM 
>To: =
>OSLIST@... 
>Subject: MORE THAN 40 =
>OPEN SPACE
>MEETINGS IN CHILE
>
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>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 
>Hi,
>
>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>I've been practicing Open Space in Chile
for =
>the last
>4 years and I have to say that I AM GRATEFUL to Harrison and all the
>practitioners who add to this global learning experience and from
which =
>I have
>learned the fundamentals to begin my own practice. The technology
itself =
>is
>-compared to other methodologies for Large Group Interventios- the =
>lightest in
>terms of logistics, the quickest to be organized, and the one that get
=
>the best
>results from -and for- people. And it's cheap.
>
>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>All of the almost 40 Open Space Meetings I
=
>have
>facilitated had been for the Public Sector, i.e. State organizations =
>ranging
>from Education to the Housing Service. Allmost always, the concerns of
=
>the
>clients have been the same: fear of "losing control" of what
=
>happens,
>of not being able to cope with the demands of people, of being =
>criticized
>openly, of not being able to concentrate on the specific themes about
=
>which the
>Open Space is convened. Also, they always remain skeptic about the =
>minimal
>preparation necessary to make OST happen (they seem to think that it =
>won't work
>and that I'm bluffing them by being so "light"). All this =
>concerns
>have been followed by relief when the client sees that the OST really
=
>works,
>that the order emerges from chaos every time. Old clients have been
the =
>best
>promotors of the Technology among new ones.
>
>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>My last experience is still developing, as
on =
>Saturday
>we met with about 250 leaders from the neighborhood on Pedro de
Valdivia =
>Bajo
>(a bidonville by
=
>the riverside)
>in the city of Concepcion, to plan the needed interventions from all
the
>different State services to improve the area. The curious thing is
that =
>always,
>both conveners and participants evaluate the OST as the
"best"
>participatory experience they ever had. This was not the exception,
and =
>is a
>real achievement in a neighborhood with a history of conflict and
acute
>poverty. We have had illiterate group conveners! To help this, this
time =
>we had
>the help of student volunteers to take notes of the full =
>conversation in
>every group. My main fear was that the students could somehow
intervene =
>and
>manipulate the discussion, but it was they who, at the end of the day,
=
>were
>impressed by the quality of people's participation. This Open Space is
=
>still
>hapening, as next saturday (october 16th) we will meet again! to
discuss
>solutions for the discussed problems.
>
>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Best wishes and keep on!
>
>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 
>
>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Johann B=F3rquez Bohn
>
>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Open Space Practitioner
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>Roman">style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>CHILE
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