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Caros amigos:

Não sei quais de vocês ainda estão nesta lista, pelo que pedia a quem receber este mail, que me confirme que o recebeu, independentemente do que segue.

Como verão pelo mail abaixo estou a pensar lançar um Instituto do ESpaço Aberto ou apenas para os países de língua portuguesa, ou, para todos os das linguas ibéricas. Isso depende das adesões que tiverem.

Quem estiver interessado neste proejcto, sugiro que procure no Linkedin ou no Facebook os grupos sobre "Metodologia do Espaço Aberto" (de momento quase só há posts em português, mas os posts em castenhano também são bem recebidos).

Abraços

Artur

--- On Mon, 7/20/09, Artur Ferreira da Silva <artfsilva@...> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Artur Ferreira da Silva

Date: 2009/7/19
Subject: Fwd: OSI Institutes around the world
To: Veronique Santos <veronique_santos@...>, EA-Wiki <ea-wiki-iberia@yahoogroups.com>, elitepperk@..., ar@..., jpedrerosf@..., JL Walker <juanluiswalker@...>, ELEDER AURTENETXE PILDAIN <eleder.aurtenetxe@...>, col@..., Carlos Dias <cdias.ist@...>, Luis Dias <luisdias.ist@...>, Artur Silva <artfsilva@...>

Fwd FYI

Artur

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From: Peggy Holman <peggy@...>
Date: 2009/7/19
Subject: Re: OSI Institutes aroud the world
To: Artur Ferreira da Silva <artfsilva@...>
Cc: "Douglas D Germann, Sr." <76066.515@...>, Phelim McDermott <phelim@...>, Tree Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatrick@...>, Edward Laboy <Ed@...>, Karen Davis <kdavis@...>, Christine Whitney Sanchez <milagro27@...>, Gabriel Shirley <gabriel@...>, Lisa Heft <lisaheft@...>, Harrison Owen <hhowen@...>

Hi Artur,

Thanks for the reflections. I think it is timely to think about organizing an Iberian OS institute. Berlin might be a good place to have that conversation, particularly if you reach out to people to attend.

I appreciate your thoughts on the web site. The OSI-US board is in a place of re-thinking how we approach our work. To date, because we have supported Michael's work with the main OST web site, we haven't put energy into a separate OSI-US presence. The fact that an environmental organization comes up when you google OSI does add to the challenge. So, I have no answers, but I am sharing your reflections with the rest of the board.

appreciatively,

Peggy

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the fire".
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On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Artur Ferreira da Silva wrote:

Thanks, for your reply, Peggy. [I would like to copy also Harrison in this, but this is only until now a private conversation...]

I am afraid that I don´t know very well what I want to talk with you about...

So, begining about what is clear to me.

As you know OST is very week in all Latin countries of Europe.

But I think, OST is now aproaching a turning point in Portugal, and probably also in Spain. But also in France, from what I can see. And I don´t know much about OST in Italy

So one of my ideas, was about the possibility of creating an OSI of Portugal (probably with name in a Portuguese translation...).

But, if your remember my idea of the Iberian Wiki (http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi?) that is written both in Portuguese and Spanish, I wonder if this couldn't be an Iberian OSI (Portugal and Spain, or even, eventually, an Iberian languages' Institute, exploring links with Latin America, where OST is more develloped).

Then I begin searching for "Open Space Institutes" and the first thing that came out from google was this:  http://www.osiny.org/site/PageServer, that is probably very interesting but is not related to OST. (Shouldn't we change the name to OST Institute?)

And if the presence of Openspaceworld.org in the Internet is now good, since the last OSonOS in Berlin (even if with almost no changes in the last few years) the presence of

OS(T) Institutes in the Internet is bad. And there is also the OST world map, that is not integrated with openspaceworld.org.

OSIs from Canada and Denmark are in good ranks at Google, but OSI USA is almost only a subsection of openspacewporld.org, with no vitallity on its own (sorry for saying so) and I was wondering what can be done about all that.

And, as you know, wOSONOS is coming back to Berlin 10 years later. I am planning to go to Berlin next year, by the way, and think of doing some promotion in the latin countries and profit from this good opportunity to promote intense contacts with other people from the South of Europe that can go there too.

So maybe another OST turning point is on the way, at least in the South of Europe. And why not world wide?

I really dont´t know in what direction or what can be done, so I am looking for advise.

Best regards

Artur

2009/7/5 Peggy Holman <peggy@...>

Hi Artur,

The URLs for the institutes are at http://openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?OpenSpaceInstitutes

For a while we were doing a quarterly conference call with 1-2 people from each part of the world.  Karen Davis, Brian Bainbridge, and Larry Peterson were organizing the calls. That may not be what you're asking. There is no formal arrangement among the institutes but all of us are inventing the institutes in our own way so formal is not really a word that applies. We all talk with each other.

OSI-US does accept individual members from other countries. We've not really done anything about collective members, other than spread a donation (since membership comes with a donation of any amount) among the collective.

Let me know if you've got other questions.

appreciatively,

Peggy

______________________________

Peggy Holman

The Open Circle Company

15347 SE 49th Place

Bellevue, WA 98006

425-746-6274

www.opencirclecompany.com

www.journalismthatmatters.org

For the new edition of The Change Handbook, go to:
www.bkconnection.com/ChangeHandbook

"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become
the fire".
-- Drew Dellinger

On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Artur Ferreira da Silva wrote:

Dear Peggy:

Can you please send me the URLs of OSI-USA and other OSI Institutes around the world?

What are the connections-relations between those Institutes among themselves and with OSI-USA?

Does OSI-USA accepts individual members from other countries? And what about "collective members" (delegations?)

Thanks

Warm regards

Artur

#176

From: Artur Silva <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: ESPACIO ABIERTO

arturfsilva

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[Sorry for all of you that donÂ´t understand spanish (castellano), not to speak of "portinhol"...]

Estimado Juan Luis:

Te entiendo muy bien.

El wiki era un instrumento que, en certo momento, ha parecido el mÃ¡s sencillo e adequado. MÃ¡s no era tanto como parecÃa e, ademÃ¡s, el grupo nunca ha estabilizado. El momento para pensar en un site ibÃ©rico (al menos en castellano e portuguÃªs), mas si posible tambiÃ©n com entradas en catalÃ£ e gallego (e, porque non?, en basque), venia demasiado adelantada a su tempo.

Mas agora que parece que el OST se desarrolla en el mundo ibÃ©rico e latino-americano, porque no retomar en outros termos e instrumentos la ideia de la comunidade de lenguas tÃ£o vecinas?

E porque no tomamos nos outros todos falantes de estas lenguas el liderazgo en isto?

Um grande abrazo

Artur

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--- On Tue, 6/23/09, JL Walker <juanluiswalker@...> wrote:

From: JL Walker <juanluiswalker@...>
Subject: Re: ESPACIO ABIERTO
To: elitepperk@..., ar@..., jpedrerosf@..., arturfsilva@...
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 3:39 PM

(...)

Querido Artur, debo confesarte que muy a mi pesar me he dado cuenta que entiendo menos el PortuguÃ©s que el InglÃ©s (con todo lo difÃcil que ya me resulta), y para quÃ© hablar del CatalÃ¡n y el Gallego. Pero tÃº tienes toda la razÃ³n no he puesto ningÃºn link directo a la wiki ibÃ©rica, habiendo por tanto, nuevamente sido vÃctima de un â€œlapsusâ€ que a continuaciÃ³n intento comprender. Espero tambiÃ©n eso sÃ, que para ti el EspaÃ±ol sea menos difÃcil que el PortuguÃ©s para mÃ.

Con todo, lo primero que me surge es que la pÃ¡gina ibÃ©rica no la tengo para nada internalizada y el consuelo es que al menos la entrada principal www.openspaceworld.org la menciono varias veces. Pienso que los Ibero parlantes, que ingresen por primera vez a esa pÃ¡gina, con rapidez y agrado descubrirÃ¡n el link abajo donde en el mismo inicio se seÃ±ala su propio idioma.

Lo segundo tal vez es mÃ¡s de fondo, y entiendo tiene que ver mÃ¡s profundamente con tu llamado, esa pÃ¡gina requiere a mi juicio ser mejorada y nunca yo he asumido ningÃºn liderazgo en tal sentido. A lo mejor he estado esperando una invitaciÃ³n mÃ¡s explÃcita de tu parte y tambiÃ©n la falta de tiempo y la propia ignorancia para trabajar con una wiki. No tengo ni idea.

Pero tu provocaciÃ³n me sigue pareciendo interesante. Â¿QuÃ© tal si la asumimos entre todos? Â¿Por dÃ³nde comenzamos? Â¿AlguiÃ©n conoce algunos gallegos y catalanes que tambiÃ©n les guste abrir espacios?

Abrazos,
Juan Luis
www.espacioabierto.net

#175

From: Artur Silva <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:48 pm
Subject: Fwd: Living Peace- an invitation

arturfsilva

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Fw para informação. Se alguém quiser contribuir, por favor informe-me.

Artur

Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1970@...> wrote:

Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:27:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1970@...>
Subject: Living Peace- an invitation
To: arturfsilva@...

Living Peace: the open space of our lives

An invitation

November 18,2007

Dear Artur,

We are writing you to invite your contribution for an e-book, tentatively entitled Living Peace: the open space of our lives. OST facilitators from around the world, experienced and people new to the practice, are being contacted for this project.

Harrisonâ€™s last book was The Practice of Peace. It was a thoughtful, playful, compelling, and engaging invitation to consider that the everyday practice of Open Space in organizations is the practice of peace. If that is so, then perhaps, taken together, those who work with OST have something to offer the world about living peace on a day-to-day basis?



There have been many conversations about the personal practice of open space, but to our knowledge this has not been captured as a book. Chris Corrigan and Michael Herman have elaborated an invaluable perspective on that practice. And I credit them, Wendy Farmer-Oâ€™Neil, Birgitt Williams, and Harrison Owen as inspiration for this book.

This book aims to deepen the conversation about the personal practice of Open Space.

For the book, weâ€™d like to invite you to answer one question:

â€œWhat is your practice of Open Space?â€

This is an inquiry into how each of us bring open space into our lives, how we live Open Space.

In addition, you are invited to submit resources for a resource section at end of the book on practicing Open Space in life. We welcome any materials you see as valuable in deepening the personal practice of Open Space.

A maximum length of two pages for each contribution is suggested, and this is more of a guideline than a hard and fast rule.

Weâ€™d like to ensure a broad representation of voices in the book, both in terms of perspective, experience, and geography. This invitation will also be posted to English-language OSlist and other OSlists around the world.

If you have any particular suggestions of people who should be contacted to participate in this initiative, let me know!

If you think you will be able to make a contribution, please email Raffi at raffi@... (or raffi_1970@...). Weâ€™d like to receive submissions by February 1, 2008.

Your piece can be anything that can be presented on a printed page, a story, an essay, a parable, a word, a sentence, a picture, a diagram, anything that can convey on paper what you understand your practice of Open Space to be.

If youâ€™d prefer to share your practice of peace in a telephone conversation that can be later transcribed into text, weâ€™d be more than happy to do so.

The book will be made available for free online. Perhaps at a later point, it might be available for sale in print form, in which case a significant (50% at least) of proceedings will go to support the spread of OST around the world.

Contributions will be selected by a committee (anyone with experience of OST is welcome to participate in its work). All pieces will be available for reading online, regardless of whether or not they are chosen for the book.

Vera â€œDyomkaâ€ Vakulenko, a Moscow artist and community activist who designed the Open Space on Open Space XIV logo and brought much spirit to that conference will be illustrating this book. The drawing in this invitation is hers!

We intend to publish the book in both English and Russian. If you can circulate this invitation in other languages, itâ€™d much be appreciated.

Your thoughts, questions suggestions and collaboration in this project are welcome!

If you can submit something for this book, please let us know by email!

Respectfully and in appreciation,

Raffi Aftandelian

Vera â€œDyomkaâ€ Vakulenko

p.s. Greetings Artur! If you could forward this invitation to other regional OST colleagues, I'd much appreciate it! warmly, raffi

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#174

From: Artur Silva <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:48 pm
Subject: Fwd: Living Peace- an invitation

arturfsilva

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Fw para informação. Se alguém quiser contribuir, por favor informe-me.

Artur

Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1970@...> wrote:

Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:27:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Raffi Aftandelian <raffi_1970@...>
Subject: Living Peace- an invitation
To: arturfsilva@...

Living Peace: the open space of our lives

An invitation

November 18,2007

Dear Artur,

We are writing you to invite your contribution for an e-book, tentatively entitled Living Peace: the open space of our lives. OST facilitators from around the world, experienced and people new to the practice, are being contacted for this project.

Harrisonâ€™s last book was The Practice of Peace. It was a thoughtful, playful, compelling, and engaging invitation to consider that the everyday practice of Open Space in organizations is the practice of peace. If that is so, then perhaps, taken together, those who work with OST have something to offer the world about living peace on a day-to-day basis?



There have been many conversations about the personal practice of open space, but to our knowledge this has not been captured as a book. Chris Corrigan and Michael Herman have elaborated an invaluable perspective on that practice. And I credit them, Wendy Farmer-Oâ€™Neil, Birgitt Williams, and Harrison Owen as inspiration for this book.

This book aims to deepen the conversation about the personal practice of Open Space.

For the book, weâ€™d like to invite you to answer one question:

â€œWhat is your practice of Open Space?â€

This is an inquiry into how each of us bring open space into our lives, how we live Open Space.

In addition, you are invited to submit resources for a resource section at end of the book on practicing Open Space in life. We welcome any materials you see as valuable in deepening the personal practice of Open Space.

A maximum length of two pages for each contribution is suggested, and this is more of a guideline than a hard and fast rule.

Weâ€™d like to ensure a broad representation of voices in the book, both in terms of perspective, experience, and geography. This invitation will also be posted to English-language OSlist and other OSlists around the world.

If you have any particular suggestions of people who should be contacted to participate in this initiative, let me know!

If you think you will be able to make a contribution, please email Raffi at raffi@... (or raffi_1970@...). Weâ€™d like to receive submissions by February 1, 2008.

Your piece can be anything that can be presented on a printed page, a story, an essay, a parable, a word, a sentence, a picture, a diagram, anything that can convey on paper what you understand your practice of Open Space to be.

If youâ€™d prefer to share your practice of peace in a telephone conversation that can be later transcribed into text, weâ€™d be more than happy to do so.

The book will be made available for free online. Perhaps at a later point, it might be available for sale in print form, in which case a significant (50% at least) of proceedings will go to support the spread of OST around the world.

Contributions will be selected by a committee (anyone with experience of OST is welcome to participate in its work). All pieces will be available for reading online, regardless of whether or not they are chosen for the book.

Vera â€œDyomkaâ€ Vakulenko, a Moscow artist and community activist who designed the Open Space on Open Space XIV logo and brought much spirit to that conference will be illustrating this book. The drawing in this invitation is hers!

We intend to publish the book in both English and Russian. If you can circulate this invitation in other languages, itâ€™d much be appreciated.

Your thoughts, questions suggestions and collaboration in this project are welcome!

If you can submit something for this book, please let us know by email!

Respectfully and in appreciation,

Raffi Aftandelian

Vera â€œDyomkaâ€ Vakulenko

p.s. Greetings Artur! If you could forward this invitation to other regional OST colleagues, I'd much appreciate it! warmly, raffi

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#173

From: Elyene Adorno <elyene_adorno@...>
Date: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:08 pm
Subject: Re: Res: EA no Flickr

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Obrigada! Vou verificar o grupo.

Elyene Adorno

JMOC <jmoc98@...> escreveu:

EA = Espaço Aberto. Como este grupo aqui.

OST (Open Space Technology) = TEA

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Elyene Adorno <elyene_adorno@yahoo.com>
Para: EA-Wiki-Iberia@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 16 de Outubro de 2007 17:09:43
Assunto: Re: [EA-Wiki-Iberia] EA no Flickr

Oi Jean,

E o que significa grupos EA???

Daria para você explicar, por favor?

Elyene

JMOC <jmoc98@yahoo. com> escreveu:

olá,

alguém conhece endereço de grupos de EA no flickr?
achei apenas esses dois:
http://www.flickr. com/groups/ 317835@N24/
http://www.flickr. com/groups/ 307001@N25/

saudações,
Jean.

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#172

From: JMOC <jmoc98@...>
Date: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:44 pm
Subject: Res: EA no Flickr

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EA = Espaço Aberto. Como este grupo aqui.

OST (Open Space Technology) = TEA

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Elyene Adorno <elyene_adorno@...>
Para: EA-Wiki-Iberia@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Terça-feira, 16 de Outubro de 2007 17:09:43
Assunto: Re: [EA-Wiki-Iberia] EA no Flickr

Oi Jean,

E o que significa grupos EA???

Daria para você explicar, por favor?

Elyene

JMOC <jmoc98@yahoo. com> escreveu:

olá,

alguém conhece endereço de grupos de EA no flickr?
achei apenas esses dois:
http://www.flickr. com/groups/ 317835@N24/
http://www.flickr. com/groups/ 307001@N25/

saudações,
Jean.

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#171

From: Elyene Adorno <elyene_adorno@...>
Date: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:09 pm
Subject: Re: EA no Flickr

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Oi Jean,

E o que significa grupos EA???

Daria para você explicar, por favor?

Elyene

JMOC <jmoc98@...> escreveu:

olá,

alguém conhece endereço de grupos de EA no flickr?
achei apenas esses dois:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/317835@N24/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/307001@N25/

saudações,
Jean.

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#170

From: "JMOC" <jmoc98@...>
Date: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:19 pm
Subject: EA no Flickr

jmoc98

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olá,

alguém conhece endereço de grupos de EA no flickr?
achei apenas esses dois:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/317835@N24/
http://www.flickr.com/groups/307001@N25/

saudações,
Jean.

#169

From: "JMOC" <jmoc98@...>
Date: Wed Jun 7, 2006 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Relatório de Discussão de EA

jmoc98

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Pois é, me pediram os 4 princípios (em português brasileiro) e também

"Would you also be willing to share a model in Portuguese of the Discussion Report you use? "

como estou sem meu livro aqui, nao me recordo a que a pessoa se refere.

--- In EA-Wiki-Iberia@yahoogroups.com, ana.tomas@... wrote:
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> Modelo de quê?
> Dum relatório?
> De EA (Entreprise Architecture)?
> Outra coisa? Qual?
> ana
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> Alguém tem algum modelo que pudesse me enviar? Grato.
>

#168

From: ana.tomas@...
Date: Thu May 25, 2006 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Relatório de Discussão de EA

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Modelo de quê?
Dum relatório?
De EA (Entreprise Architecture)?
Outra coisa? Qual?
ana
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Alguém tem algum modelo que pudesse me enviar? Grato.

#167

From: ana.tomas@...
Date: Thu May 25, 2006 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: Relatório de Discussão de EA

anamtomas

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Modelo de quê?
Dum relatório?
De EA (Entreprise Architecture)?
Outra coisa? Qual?
ana
---------------------- MENSAGEM ORIGINAL ----------------------
Alguém tem algum modelo que pudesse me enviar? Grato.

#166

From: "JMOC" <jmoc98@...>
Date: Thu May 25, 2006 3:31 pm
Subject: Relatório de Discussão de EA

jmoc98

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Alguém tem algum modelo que pudesse me enviar? Grato.

#165

From: ana.tomas@...
Date: Tue May 9, 2006 7:56 am
Subject: Re: orkut - alguém participa?

anamtomas

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Esta nossa comunidade anda mto calada, como se tem visto.
O que nos poderá mobilizar para a discussão?

Um abraço
Ana Tomás
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Criei a comunidade
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[]s,
Jean.






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#164

From: "JMOC" <jmoc98@...>
Date: Mon May 8, 2006 5:10 pm
Subject: orkut - alguém participa?

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Sugiro nos encontrarmos também no Orkut e trocarmos idéias.

Criei a comunidade
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[]s,
Jean.

#163

From: "Artur F. Silva" <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:06 pm
Subject: Mudança e Aprendizagem Organizacionais - Seminário e Portal

arturfsilva

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Olá:

Gostava de trazer ao vosso conhecimento um novo projecto de
Seminário livre sobre os temas acima (e outros correlativos, como
Gestão do Conhecimento, CoP's, metodologias de facilitação, Sistemas
de Informação, etc), que estou a coordenar no IST, em Lisboa, e que
podem ver em  http://smao.tagus.ist.utl.pt/, mas em que o trabalho
efectivo de recolha e divulgação de documentos e links, diálogo em
foruns e trabalho cooperativo em wikis se fará em
http://col.tagus.ist.utl.pt/, onde aliás já existe bastante
material, formativo e informativo.

O registo e a participação nos fóruns é livre e bem vinda, pois
gostariamos de contar com representantes da academia e de empresas
de todos os espaços falantes do Português. Mas quem quiser publicar
textos (que se adequem ao temário e/ou onde haja lacunas), tem de
enviar o PDF pois, de momento, só os webmasters podem fazer isso.

Opiniões, comentários e sugestões também são bem vindos

Artur

#162

From: Nicolai von Ertzdorff <e_motion@...>
Date: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:58 am
Subject: Re: RE: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

e_motion@...

Yo tambien ;-)
Nicolai

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Dois ;-)

Artur
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#161

From: António Durão <durao@...>
Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: RE: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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#160

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Date: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: RE: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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#158

From: Artur Silva <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:10 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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#157

From: Lucas Gonzalez <lgs0a@...>
Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:16 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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#156

From: "JMOC" <jmoc98@...>
Date: Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:28 pm
Subject: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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#155

From: Lucas Gonzalez <lgs0a@...>
Date: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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El wiki está cerrado para editar por todos - pero algunos podemos
editarlo.  Tengo clave para "limpiar" el wikispam pero no he dedicado
tiempo en estas semanas.

No sé qué podemos/queremos hacer.

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#154

From: Jean Marconi <jmoc98@...>
Date: Tue Feb 15, 2005 10:22 pm
Subject: Re: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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--- arturfsilva <arturfsilva@...> escreveu:
>
>
> Pergunto:
>
> - mantem-se esta lista ou deixa-se cancelar?

Eu acho que a lista deve ser mantida.
E deve tratar não só de Wiki, mas de OST em geral.
Me ofereço para ajudar como mais um moderador da
lista.

>
> - há quem tenha vontade e tempo para ir mantendo o
> Wiki sob controle
> e ele pode voltar a ser editavel?

Eu gostaria até de entender como o Wiki funciona, para
aí poder fazer algo. Visitei a página algumas vezes
mas não entendi nem o objetivo, nem como funciona.

>
> - e/ou  de falar aqui de OST em portugues e/ou
> espanhol?
>

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#153

From: "arturfsilva" <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Tue Feb 15, 2005 5:49 pm
Subject: Morte anunciada deste grupo...

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Carissimos:

Acabo de receber mais uma mensagem a dizer que esta lista vai ser
apagada se não começar a ter movimento.

Quando a lista foi criada, o objectivo era discutir aqui a
elaboração do Wiki do OST em linguas ibéricas. Mas, terminado o
esforço inicial, pouco movimento de alterações houve no wiki e quase
nenhum debate nesta lista.

Por força disso, o wiki passou a ser alvo de spam sistematico. Ainda
o limpei algumas vezes (e penso que o Lucas também o terá feito),
mas foi necessário acabar com a possibilidade de escrita, pois não
havia gente que consultasse o dito com regularidade.

Pergunto:

- mantem-se esta lista ou deixa-se cancelar?

- há quem tenha vontade e tempo para ir mantendo o Wiki sob controle
e ele pode voltar a ser editavel?

- e/ou  de falar aqui de OST em portugues e/ou espanhol?

Artur

#152

From: Lucas Gonzalez <lgs0a@...>
Date: Sun Oct 17, 2004 9:24 pm
Subject: Re: mas de 40 OST en chile

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Espero poder traducir algo pronto.

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#151

From: Artur Silva <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:38 pm
Subject: Re: mas de 40 OST en chile

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Hola Lucas:

--- Lucas Gonzalez <lgs0a@...> wrote:

>
> Hola
>
> El mensaje que pongo abajo está copiado de la lista
> OSLIST general: un
> "practicante experimentado" en Chile - a quien ya he
> nombrado la
> existencia de esta lista, por si puede/quiere
> venirse.

Bom eu tenho andado muito ocupado e isso vai andar
assim até meados de Novembro. Se no entretanto tu ou o
Johann quisessem traduizr a mensagem dele para a
OSLIST para espanhol eu depois dessa data metia no
wiki.

>
> Al escribir a Johann Borquez recordé que existía
> esta lista, que la
> olvidé durante el verano, y que estaba la idea de la
> traducción (que no
> he olvidado).  Espero poder empezar a traducir "gota
> a gota" el "User
> Guide", y ya veremos qué hacemos.

Fico á espera.
>
> Además, está la página "A Brief User's Guide to
> OST":
> http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm
> que me enviaron ya traducida!!!  Creo que estaría
> bien ponerla en el
> wiki o en algún otro sitio.

Qume te enviou a tradução? Acho muito bem que se meta
no Wiki. Penso que se deveria pedir autorizacoa ao HO
(poer educação, como dizes). Queres tu escrever-lhe ou
queres que o faça eu, depois de me enviares a
tradução.

Aproveito para informar que fui contactado por um
grupo de Porfessores de Espanha que usam OST e me
enviaram um texto para o Wiki que ainda não tive tempo
para colocar, mas não está esquecido...

Artur

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#150

From: Lucas Gonzalez <lgs0a@...>
Date: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:10 am
Subject: mas de 40 OST en chile

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Hola

El mensaje que pongo abajo está copiado de la lista OSLIST general: un
"practicante experimentado" en Chile - a quien ya he nombrado la
existencia de esta lista, por si puede/quiere venirse.

Al escribir a Johann Borquez recordé que existía esta lista, que la
olvidé durante el verano, y que estaba la idea de la traducción (que no
he olvidado).  Espero poder empezar a traducir "gota a gota" el "User
Guide", y ya veremos qué hacemos.

Además, está la página "A Brief User's Guide to OST":
http://www.openspaceworld.com/users_guide.htm
que me enviaron ya traducida!!!  Creo que estaría bien ponerla en el
wiki o en algún otro sitio.  ¿Hay que pedir permiso a HO?  Por
educación, seguro.  ¿O está ya puesta esa traducción en algún lado?

Espero que estén todos bien.

Lucas

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> Fecha:         Wed, 13 Oct 2004 12:02:36 -0300
> De: Johann Borquez <zekrov@...>
> Asunto: Re: [OSLIST] MORE THAN 40 OPEN SPACE MEETINGS IN CHILE
> Para: OSLIST@...
>

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Dear Harrison,

Your words are really encouraging. When I first knew about Open Space
Technology it seemed to me almost impossible to make it happen here.
Fortunately, soon after I received a request from the local government
to facilitate a meeting with more than 200 people. They were in a rush,
had almost no money, and no idea about how to make people talk in a
short period. I proposed Open Space and they were reluctant at the
beginning. In the end, the ended with a bunch of relevant issues, the
leaders who carried those issues at the grassroot level, and networks
of people around those same issues. Later I was hired by the Chile
Labour Training Agency (SENCE) which was having lots of trouble and
conflict with their clients, to facilitate Open Space Meetings in
several regions of Chile. It worked out so well, that they asked me to
prepare a national Open Space Meeting for the agency's workers. I have
a video on it prepared by them, which I will be glad to share with you.
Bad news are -! it's in Spanish.

It was so different from everything tried before, that my regional
government (Bio Bio Region) asked me to train the members of the
Intersectorial Committee on Citizen Participation (CIPAC) on Open Space
Technology. So I have trained people who now use OST in their
organizations -from Healthcare to Education- as a way of communication
with citizens. As an anecdote, I can tell you that the discussion about
the new Citizen Participation Law in my region was conducted in Open
Spaces with local grassroots leaders -in urban and rural areas alike-.

In the meantime, I have gained a huge experience. I have learned to
care more about certain issues -as the comfort of people in the room-
and less about others. I'm preparing a video and a paper about my
practice, and I hope to have them ready by November. Would it be very
nasty from my part to ask you to revise at least the paper and write
perhaps a stroke or two to begin it with?

It's been a hard way to make gov't leaders believe in transfering power
to the people to voice out their needs and dreams, but it's working
now. Thanks for everything. Thanks for sharing this amazing piece of
methodology with all of the world. Thanks for giving it a philosophy
which I -and many others, I think- can adhere to. I think this is the
most powerful tool for real human understanding since the invention of
the mobile type by Gutemberg.

Best wishes,



Johann Borquez Bohn

Open Space Practitioner

Chile

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>From: Harrison Owen <hhowen@...>
>Reply-To: OSLIST <OSLIST@...>
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>Super! And you have been hiding all those wonderful stories from us
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have =
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>say that I AM GRATEFUL to Harrison and all the practitioners who add
to =
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>logistics, the quickest to be organized, and the one that get the best
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for =
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intervene =
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=
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=
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>[mailto:OSLIST@...] <b><span =
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>Behalf Of </span></b>Johann Borquez<br>
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>4 years and I have to say that I AM GRATEFUL to Harrison and all the
>practitioners who add to this global learning experience and from
which =
>I have
>learned the fundamentals to begin my own practice. The technology
itself =
>is
>-compared to other methodologies for Large Group Interventios- the =
>lightest in
>terms of logistics, the quickest to be organized, and the one that get
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>the best
>results from -and for- people. And it's cheap.</span></font></p>
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>have been followed by relief when the client sees that the OST really
=
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the =
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on =
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Valdivia =
>Bajo
>(a <em><i><font face=3D"Times New Roman">bidonville </font></i></em>by
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the
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and =
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acute
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time =
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>every group. My main fear was that the students could somehow
intervene =
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>impressed by the quality of people's participation. This Open Space is
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>still
>hapening, as next saturday (october 16th) we will meet again! to
discuss
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#149

From: Jean Marconi <jeanmarconi@...>
Date: Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:01 pm
Subject: OST sobre Educação

jeanmarconi

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amigos,

vou realizar uma OST sobre educação e o tema para o evento foi "Educação
como direito".
O que os colegas da lista acham do tema?

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#148

From: "Alexandre Bobeda" <lxbobeda@...>
Date: Mon Aug 9, 2004 11:26 pm
Subject: Re: Re: First warning: your group EA-Wiki-Iberia will soon be deleted

lxbobeda

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Ok!

E bom trabalho para quem é do trabalho! (na "ralação", como se diz aqui no Rio, Brasil)

Abs,

Alexandre Bobeda
http://www.capitalintelectual.blogger.com.br/
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----- Original Message -----

From: Artur Silva

To: EA-Wiki-Iberia@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: [EA-Wiki-Iberia] Re: First warning: your group EA-Wiki-Iberia will soon be deleted

> Acho uma pena terminar assim, mas se não tiver
> participação, para quê, afinal, a lista?!
> ;-)
>
> Alexandre Bobeda

Ói Alexandre:

Discutiremos isso melhor em Setembro. Mas, muito
rapidamente, antes de ir de férias, a lista teve um
objectivo inicial e depois passou a ter um
suplementar.

Objectivo inicial: apoiar no lançamento inicial do
Wiki Ibérico (complementado o espaço do "Wiki DEV" em
que se fazia o registo das intervenções - registo esse
que desapareceu - vá ver - e eu não consigo
reconstruir..). Nesse sentido, o Wiki foi feito e bem
e a lista serviu os fins. Depois nunca houve tempo,
nem experiências suficientes para ir fazendo
"manutenção" e contar novas experiencias de OST. Mas
há pelo menos uma manutenção que tem de ser feita.
Apagar regularmente os "acrescentos publicitários" (e
que nada têm a ver com Open Space) que por lá aparecem
regularmente - o último era um anúncio de viagens,
logo na página principal). Isso talvez pudesse ser
aqui conversado e distribuido entre os interessados.

Objectivo suplementar: discutir conceitos de OST. É a
este que o Lucas se refere. Isso depende de haver
experiencias de OST nos nossos paises (e o mercado dos
paises católicos têm-se mostrado dificil) ou ainda não
há massa crítica suficiente de praticantes, ou de
outros projectos (como a eventual traducao pelo Lucas
do "User's Guide" para espanhol),.

Enfim, falaremos disto em Setembro. E boas férias para
quem vai de férias

Artur

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