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#177 From: Artur Silva <arturfsilva@...>
Date: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:53 pm
Subject: Fwd: OSI Institutes around the world
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Caros amigos:
 
Não sei quais de vocês ainda estão nesta lista, pelo que pedia a quem receber este mail, que me confirme que o recebeu, independentemente do que segue.
 
Como verão pelo mail abaixo estou a pensar lançar um Instituto do ESpaço Aberto ou apenas para os países de língua portuguesa, ou, para todos os das linguas ibéricas. Isso depende das adesões que tiverem.
 
Quem estiver interessado neste proejcto, sugiro que procure no Linkedin ou no Facebook os grupos sobre "Metodologia do Espaço Aberto" (de momento quase só há posts em português, mas os posts em castenhano também são bem recebidos).
 
Abraços
 
Artur
 


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From: Artur Ferreira da Silva
Date: 2009/7/19
Subject: Fwd: OSI Institutes around the world
To: Veronique Santos <veronique_santos@...>, EA-Wiki <ea-wiki-iberia@yahoogroups.com>, elitepperk@..., ar@..., jpedrerosf@..., JL Walker <juanluiswalker@...>, ELEDER AURTENETXE PILDAIN <eleder.aurtenetxe@...>, col@..., Carlos Dias <cdias.ist@...>, Luis Dias <luisdias.ist@...>, Artur Silva <artfsilva@...>


Fwd FYI
 
Artur
 
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From: Peggy Holman <peggy@...>
Date: 2009/7/19
Subject: Re: OSI Institutes aroud the world
To: Artur Ferreira da Silva <artfsilva@...>
Cc: "Douglas D Germann, Sr." <76066.515@...>, Phelim McDermott <phelim@...>, Tree Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatrick@...>, Edward Laboy <Ed@...>, Karen Davis <kdavis@...>, Christine Whitney Sanchez <milagro27@...>, Gabriel Shirley <gabriel@...>, Lisa Heft <lisaheft@...>, Harrison Owen <hhowen@...>


Hi Artur,

Thanks for the reflections.  I think it is timely to think about organizing an Iberian OS institute.  Berlin might be a good place to have that conversation, particularly if you reach out to people to attend.  

I appreciate your thoughts on the web site.  The OSI-US board is in a place of re-thinking how we approach our work.  To date, because we have supported Michael's work with the main OST web site, we haven't put energy into a separate OSI-US presence.  The fact that an environmental organization comes up when you google OSI does add to the challenge.  So, I have no answers, but I am sharing your reflections with the rest of the board.


appreciatively,
Peggy


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On Jul 11, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Artur Ferreira da Silva wrote:

Thanks, for your reply, Peggy. [I would like to copy also Harrison in this, but this is only until now a private conversation...]
 
I am afraid that I don´t know very well what I want to talk with you about...
 
So, begining about what is clear to me.
 
As you know OST is very week in all Latin countries of Europe.   
 
But I think, OST is now aproaching a turning point in Portugal, and probably also in Spain. But also in France, from what I can see. And I don´t know much about OST in Italy 
 
So one of my ideas, was about the possibility of creating an OSI of Portugal (probably with name in a Portuguese translation...).
 
But, if your remember my idea of the Iberian Wiki (http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi?) that is written both in Portuguese and Spanish, I wonder if this couldn't be an Iberian OSI (Portugal and Spain, or even, eventually, an Iberian languages' Institute, exploring links with Latin America, where OST is more develloped).
 
Then I begin searching for "Open Space Institutes" and the first thing that came out from google was this:  http://www.osiny.org/site/PageServer, that is probably very interesting but is not related to OST. (Shouldn't we change the name to OST Institute?)
 
And if the presence of Openspaceworld.org in the Internet is now good, since the last OSonOS in Berlin (even if with almost no changes in the last few years) the presence of
OS(T) Institutes in the Internet is bad. And there is also the OST world map, that is not integrated with openspaceworld.org.
 
OSIs from Canada and Denmark are in good ranks at Google, but OSI USA is almost only a subsection of openspacewporld.org, with no vitallity on its own (sorry for saying so) and I was wondering what can be done about all that.
 
And, as you know, wOSONOS is coming back to Berlin 10 years later. I am planning to go to Berlin next year, by the way, and think of doing some promotion in the latin countries and  profit from this good opportunity to promote intense contacts with other people from the South of Europe that can go there too. 
 
So maybe another OST turning point is on the way, at least in the South of Europe. And why not world wide?
 
I really dont´t know in what direction or what can be done, so I am looking for advise.
 
Best regards
 
Artur
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
2009/7/5 Peggy Holman <peggy@...>
Hi Artur,

The URLs for the institutes are at http://openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?OpenSpaceInstitutes

For a while we were doing a quarterly conference call with 1-2 people from each part of the world.  Karen Davis, Brian Bainbridge, and Larry Peterson were organizing the calls.  That may not be what you're asking.  There is no formal arrangement among the institutes but all of us are inventing the institutes in our own way so formal is not really a word that applies.  We all talk with each other.

OSI-US does accept individual members from other countries.  We've not really done anything about collective members, other than spread a donation (since membership comes with a donation of any amount) among the collective.

Let me know if you've got other questions.

appreciatively,
Peggy


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The Open Circle Company
15347 SE 49th Place
Bellevue, WA  98006
425-746-6274
 
For the new edition of The Change Handbook, go to: 
www.bkconnection.com/ChangeHandbook 
 
"An angel told me that the only way to step into the fire and not get burnt, is to become 
the fire".
  -- Drew Dellinger






On Jun 29, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Artur Ferreira da Silva wrote:

Dear Peggy:
 
Can you please send me the URLs of OSI-USA and other OSI Institutes around the world?
 
What are the connections-relations between those Institutes among themselves and with OSI-USA?
 
Does OSI-USA accepts individual members from other countries? And what about "collective members" (delegations?)
 
Thanks
 
Warm regards
 
Artur







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