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Re: [DFDList] DFD - Alternate Life Histories

On Jul 3, 2008, at 5:17 PM, Celia A. Sgroi wrote:

> I published this 12 years ago on Opera-l and just discovered it
> again. Please feel free to comment!

I don't remember it from that first posting, but I find this a
fascinating pair of questions. But maddeningly hard to answer.
> After reading John Steane's book about Elisabeth Schwarzkopf's
> recordings, I began to wonder what might have happened if Dietrich
> Fischer-Dieskau had fallen sufficiently under the influence of Walter
> Legge to adopt the idea of confining himself to a half-dozen opera
> roles and concentrating the rest of his efforts on Lieder and
> oratorio.
>
I always, by the way, found this idea just preposterous, no matter
how often it is quoted approvingly. No doubt Frau Legge found it
congenial (or did she? we'll never know, I guess). How many great
careers have actually been built on so few roles

> First question: What would the six opera roles have been?
>
This is hard because the roles his voice was best suited for are not
necessarily the ones he did the best, nor are they the ones he was
most interested in. The quality and range of his baritone ought to
have made him perfectly at home in Mozart operas, and yet his
performances of Giovanni, Count Almaviva, and Don Alfonso are not
really satisfying to my ears; only the FLUTE roles came out well:
Papageno (which he refused to do onstage) and the Old Priest (which
he did do, but which is only one scene of recitative). So I'll never
several contrasting lists:

ROLES GOOD FOR HIS VOICE, EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T DO THEM ALL THAT
WELL: Don Giovanni, Count Almaviva, Don Alfonso, Faninal, Dr. Schön,
Mandryka

ROLES THAT HE WAS DRAWN TO, BUT THAT WEREN'T THAT GOOD FOR HIS VOICE:
Renato (Ballo), Germont, Iago, Posa, Hans Sachs, Dutchman.

ROLES FOR WHICH HE WAS SUITED AND WHICH HE DID WELL: Fritz Kothner,
Herald (Lohengrin), Old Priest (Flute), Marcello (Boheme), Peter
(Hansel), Don Fernando (Fidelio).
Ha! Imagine doing just those 6 roles forever -- talk about an
unsatisfying career!
> Second question: What would Fischer-Dieskau's career have been like?
>
I can't improve on Celia's scenarios here, so I won't even try.


Jon Alan Conrad
Department of Music
University of Delaware
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Hi all, I published this 12 years ago on Opera-l and just discovered it again. Please feel free to comment! Celia ... After reading John Steane's book about...
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... I don't remember it from that first posting, but I find this a fascinating pair of questions. But maddeningly hard to answer. ... I always, by the way,...
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Dear Jon & List, ... Nice to hear your "voice," Jon. Thanks for responding. I agree with your assessment. Does anyone know if Schwarzkopf actually did confine ...
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... Apparently she did do just the 6. They were listed in an article in the 70s, I think. Mozart: Donna Elvira, Countess Almaviva, Fiordiligi Strauss:...
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By the time that Schwarzkopf had whittled her repertoire to only six roles you have to consider that she sang an enormous repertoire, and in English when she...
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In a message dated 04/07/2008 04:23:00 GMT Standard Time, ... Not quite! I was at several performances of his Mandryka and Falstaff at Covent Garden. ...
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... Hi Nick! DFD also sang opera in Edinburgh. And didn't he also sing opera at least once in Paris? Or is that just a dream on my part? And, of course, he did...
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Hi all, First let me say how much I enjoyed reading your various scenarios, Celia. What a hoot! Gave me a much needed laugh after a difficult week. <g> We...
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