I am unable to make it to the festival and would like to sell my
ticket for the "early bird" price of $150.  Anyone interested?
-Lee Zimmerman

I would like to share expenses from western Mt or portland for the
festival
-Lee Zimmerman

Not able to go this year -- will sell at a discount:

$280 for two tickets ($40 savings over current prices)

Laura (North Bay)

415-215-0626

Hi, I have a full weekend ticket that I am willing to sell at a
reduced rate.  I'm bummered that I can't go!!!!  I will be especially
bummered if this tic goes unused.  If you are interested in buying it,
please call me at 925-286-3842 and we'll hook it up.  Thanks!  - Tina

I have one adult 3-day ticket for sale, bought it at early bird price.
Wish I could go!!  $135 or best offer.  Thanks folks! 402-598-2269 Dawn

I am a newbie this year and would like to know:  (1) is there any
reason to bring a bicycle?  (for example, are there places nearby to
ride for amusement or exercise?); (2) is there anywhere to swim
nearby?; (3) is there any hiking nearby?  I am most interested in
hearing about places that can be reached without using a car.

Hi Tim,

Let me see if I can answer.....

1)  Bike - If you're camping in the Quiet campground or are coming late
(eg late Friday or Saturday) your campsite may be a good hike from the
proceedings.  They have golf cart shuttle service but it's mostly
for "alter-abeled" folks.  A bike could be useful for getting to/from
such a campsite but most just walk.  The festival grounds are right
along US-101 which in that area is one lane each way with a speed limit
of 55 and no shoulder to speak of.  Unless you're totally crazy I
wouldn't bike on it. However there is enough of a shoulder for runners
but they're facing the oncoming semi's and can jump out of the way.  In
the area (modest driving distance) there are various state parks, etc.
My take though is that you won't find the time for a ride even if you
could. Too many other things going on.

2) Swiming.  The Eel river runs along the edge of the festival site and
there is ample access to it for getting wet.  Usually there is a
seperate section  for "clothing optional" dunks.  The only uncertain
part is how much water will be in the river.  This has been a dry year
so it may be be a bit shallow and in dry years tends to get muddy with
people churning up the bottom.

3)  hiking - The festival site is held on the grounds of a kids summer
camp which is across the river and out of site of the festival.
However, they are very careful to make sure that the festival goers do
not interact with the camp kids.  Becasue of this we're pretty much
restricted to the festival area of Black Oak Ranch.  The surrounding
area itself is pretty rural.  an intermingling of cattle ranches and
forests.  I don't know how many of ranches are "posted" so can't
speculate on the openess to wanderers.  I would think though that the
festival promoters would prefer you not go tressapssing in the
neighbors fields.  So, in terms of walking distance from the site,
plenty to look at, but I don't recall much to go into.  Having said
that, there are state parks and such, but probably in 3 to 5 mile range.

Be interesting to see if others know more than I about this.

                      Dan

--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "tim_zindel" <tim_zindel@...>
wrote:
>
> I am a newbie this year and would like to know:  (1) is there any
> reason to bring a bicycle?  (for example, are there places nearby to
> ride for amusement or exercise?); (2) is there anywhere to swim
> nearby?; (3) is there any hiking nearby?  I am most interested in
> hearing about places that can be reached without using a car.
>

----- Original Message -----

From: maureen kirkpatrick

To: califdan @comcast.net

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 3:14 PM

Subject: Re: [KateWolfFestival] Re: Hiking? Biking? Swimming?

hi dan,

you seem to have the skinny on this event.

 how far would you say the "quiet camp" is from the main stage? also, where would we park our bikes (safe?) if we rode from our camping spot to the music?

thanks for your reply.

maureen

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan

To: KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 2:43 PM

Subject: [KateWolfFestival] Re: Hiking? Biking? Swimming?

Hi Tim,

Let me see if I can answer.....

1) Bike - If you're camping in the Quiet campground or are coming late
(eg late Friday or Saturday) your campsite may be a good hike from the
proceedings. They have golf cart shuttle service but it's mostly
for "alter-abeled" folks. A bike could be useful for getting to/from
such a campsite but most just walk. The festival grounds are right
along US-101 which in that area is one lane each way with a speed limit
of 55 and no shoulder to speak of. Unless you're totally crazy I
wouldn't bike on it. However there is enough of a shoulder for runners
but they're facing the oncoming semi's and can jump out of the way. In
the area (modest driving distance) there are various state parks, etc.
My take though is that you won't find the time for a ride even if you
could. Too many other things going on.

2) Swiming. The Eel river runs along the edge of the festival site and
there is ample access to it for getting wet. Usually there is a
seperate section for "clothing optional" dunks. The only uncertain
part is how much water will be in the river. This has been a dry year
so it may be be a bit shallow and in dry years tends to get muddy with
people churning up the bottom.

3) hiking - The festival site is held on the grounds of a kids summer
camp which is across the river and out of site of the festival.
However, they are very careful to make sure that the festival goers do
not interact with the camp kids. Becasue of this we're pretty much
restricted to the festival area of Black Oak Ranch. The surrounding
area itself is pretty rural. an intermingling of cattle ranches and
forests. I don't know how many of ranches are "posted" so can't
speculate on the openess to wanderers. I would think though that the
festival promoters would prefer you not go tressapssing in the
neighbors fields. So, in terms of walking distance from the site,
plenty to look at, but I don't recall much to go into. Having said
that, there are state parks and such, but probably in 3 to 5 mile range.

Be interesting to see if others know more than I about this.

Dan

--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "tim_zindel" <tim_zindel@...>
wrote:
>
> I am a newbie this year and would like to know: (1) is there any
> reason to bring a bicycle? (for example, are there places nearby to
> ride for amusement or exercise?); (2) is there anywhere to swim
> nearby?; (3) is there any hiking nearby? I am most interested in
> hearing about places that can be reached without using a car.
>

So like others, I am a newbie to the festival and I have a couple of
questions.  Are the camping spots pretty clear and laid out? Are there
tables at these camp spots, or is this something that we need to
bring? Is there plenty of water available?  I have looked through some
of the photos of passed festivals, but I haven't found to many showing
the camping situations, does anyone have shots that show some of the
camp situations?  Thanks  k

Hi,

The camping is "open ground" camping.  There are no campsite
boundaries or predefined spaces, no tables, no provisions for fires
(open fires not allowed, propane stoves OK on a table).  There is
plenty of water but you need to carry it from the spigot to your
campsite (it's trucked in so will be "air temp".  There is a shower
house that is adequate (expect a line at prime time though).

The Riverside campground has lots of shade but it gets crowded.
Unless you more or less "stake out" your space in front of your tent
in some way your tent will be inches from someone elses tent.  People
who come in groups sometimes form a little "quad" between 3 or four
tents.  Other ways are to use a portable table, etc.  Key is not to be
greedy, but it's ok to carve out a little elbo room.  If your tent
touching the one behind or to the side is not for you, don't pick the
Riverside campground

The RV campground has less shade and the RV's are pretty much lined up
side by side with 5 to 10 ft between.  The car camping area and quiet
campground are not nearly as crowded but still open field type with no
predefined spaces.  If you insist on lots of shade expect close
neighbors.  If full sun is OK you can have a spacious site. Note that
Car camp and quiet camp are a farther walk to things

Sorry, don't have any pics.  I'll look around for some and post them
if I find any.

See other posts in this group for more info on the camping situaiton.

                  Hope that helps -- Dan

--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "kvndrmn" <kvndrmn@...> wrote:
>
> So like others, I am a newbie to the festival and I have a couple of
> questions.  Are the camping spots pretty clear and laid out? Are
there
> tables at these camp spots, or is this something that we need to
> bring? Is there plenty of water available?  I have looked through
some
> of the photos of passed festivals, but I haven't found to many
showing
> the camping situations, does anyone have shots that show some of the
> camp situations?  Thanks  k
>

Is the Riverside campground the only campground that you can't leave
you car with your tent or is that for all campgrounds?

Hi,

I'm sure that Riverside is no cars (you can drive in to unload and
then to break camp, but can't leave your car by your tent at opther
times).  I'm not 100% sure about Family camp but I think you can keep
your car with you.  All the others allow your car to stay with you at
your camp site.

                   Dan

--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "deirdre_oreilly"
<armaranth@...> wrote:
>
> Is the Riverside campground the only campground that you can't leave
> you car with your tent or is that for all campgrounds?
>

----- Original Message -----

From: maureen kirkpatrick

To: califdan @comcast.net

Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 3:14 PM

Subject: Re: [KateWolfFestival] Re: Hiking? Biking? Swimming?

hi dan,

you seem to have the skinny on this event.

 how far would you say the "quiet camp" is from the main stage? also, where would we park our bikes (safe?) if we rode from our camping spot to the music?

thanks for your reply.

maureen

I am unable to attend the festival - one full festival ticket- make me
an offer!
-Lee Zimmerman

Hi.  I'm bringing someone this year who hasn't been before, and he
wants to bring a generator to run the a/c in the camper. I've always
camped way out as far as I can in quiet camp.  Is a generator a no-no?

Hi,

Here's a respose from the festival promoters......

Generators are okay to run in Meadowlands during the day (not early
morning, not in the evening or night) to charge batteries; basically
for RVs.  Down in Quiet Camp would not be looked at favorably.  One
couldn't assure that someone may be taking a nap in Quiet Camp
during the day.  One could try and charge a battery for a short
while during the day there but if a complaint were lodged it would
have to be turned off for the duration of the festival.  If they
want to charge a battery (during the day) for AC power at night then
Meadowlands is the place to do so.

                        Dan

--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "cperkinsdp" <cperkins@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi.  I'm bringing someone this year who hasn't been before, and he
> wants to bring a generator to run the a/c in the camper. I've
always
> camped way out as far as I can in quiet camp.  Is a generator a no-
no?
>

We're thinking about attending this year. Never been before.

A major reason we go to festivals is for the jamming.

Could anyone write a little about the jamming scene to us? Are there
open jams? Where? When? What kind of tunes?

We play upright bass and mandolin and the mandolin player sings lead
and harmony

Thanks!

Hi,

I don't see that anyone else responded, so I'll give it a shot.  Please
understand though that everything I'm going to say here is hear-say
gleaned from attending every year that it's been at this site, and the
last two years before that, not from first hand experience (we don't
camp during the festival).  My information comes from talking to others
who participate.

The best Jammin, from what I understand, is in the Riverside
campground.  While there are some official "workshops" on various
subjects, I think you're aimed at the impromptu sort.  There is lots of
it at night.  The riverside campground is well suited for it and in
wandering around the campground it's pretty hard to find a campsite
without some sort of instruments in it.  While there are some small
sessions in the day time, most of the insturments come out at night
after the mainstage finishes.

Every year I as I wait in line on Saturday and Sunday morning for the
opening of the mainstage area, I hear stories about the all night jam
in someone's campsite.  There are many folk "organizations' who come en-
masse and set up a large campsites with many tents.  Once they start,
individuals from all around gravitate to "where the music's coming
from" and join in.   From time to time (as I understand it), several
people of similar taste or style break off and wander to a more quiet
area (like down by the river) for a smaller jam, or song swap session.
If you have a couple of instruments and just start playing in
an "inviting" way, I'm quite sure people will come and join you.

As I said, mostly at night, and the core is in Riverside Campground
(although smaller, more mellow sessions can be found in all areas).
The style of music is all over the acoustic map (no electricity so
acoustic is the only choice).  Mostly contemporary folk (after all it
IS the Kate Wolf Festival) but also bluegrass, gospel, old timey, folk-
rock, even a little slack-key from time to time.  It's probably a
little light on Blues, Jazz; and "country" is non-existant.

Mando and upright will fit right in.  I don't know where you're from,
but if you're used to eastern festivals where it's green and rains
making mud, this one is bone dry and your stuff will get a bit of
dust.  It's not terrible, they do water down the roadways so I wouldn't
worry about it too much, but a good wipe down before you pack up is
probably in order.

Hope that helps, and again this is mostly from hear say.  Your
experience may be different.

                  Dan



--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "Michael" <forest129@...>
wrote:
>
> We're thinking about attending this year. Never been before.
>
> A major reason we go to festivals is for the jamming.
>
> Could anyone write a little about the jamming scene to us? Are there
> open jams? Where? When? What kind of tunes?
>
> We play upright bass and mandolin and the mandolin player sings lead
> and harmony
>
> Thanks!
>

Hello all,
I know I am pushing it to the last minute here, but it can't hurt to try. Anyone
have a spare
full festival pass? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
-Robin

Does anyone know if there are water spigots in the Quiet and Meadow
Car camps ??  We have a portable shower that we may use, and would
like to avoid hauling water too far.  Also, is there much shade to
speak of in those areas to camp ??   thanks !!

Hi Pat & Marilyn,

The term "campground" may be mis construed to mean something like
you'd find in a national or state park.  This is not the case. There
are no pre-establihed "sites".  It's just open ground (meadow) with or
without trees, depending on where you are.  There are communal spigots
where you can fill up jugs but they are not condusive to hooking up a
hose for a shower.

I'm not sure about the water in the two areas you mention, but much of
the water on site is trucked in via tanker truck which fills up tanks
at each set of spigots and uses gravity to feed the spigot.  I think
this is the way it is in the campgrounds as well, but I'm not sure.
I'm sorry but I don't know how many and how far apart the spigots  are
for hauling water.

There is a shower house if you desire (best off hours when crowds are
thinner).

In the Riverside campground pretty much everyone has shade much of the
time.  The other campgrounds are less wooded.  There are "patches" of
trees in the otherwise open meadow and there is a long row of trees
along the western edge of those meadows.  How early or late you arrive
will determine how shady a spot you can find in your desired
campground.  Also the quiet campground, is the farthest away from
the "action" so to speak (that's why it's quiet) and as such tends to
not fill up as fast as some of the closer ones.

Just for reference, if you face US-101 abd call that direction 12
(like on a clock), the sun rises at about the 2 position and sets
about the 8 position.

Also see other posts in this forum with "camping" in the title.

                   Dan

--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "Pat & Marilyn"
<patnmarilyn@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there are water spigots in the Quiet and Meadow
> Car camps ??  We have a portable shower that we may use, and would
> like to avoid hauling water too far.  Also, is there much shade to
> speak of in those areas to camp ??   thanks !!
>

Please call me asap if you are interested in buying a full festival
pass which I can no longer use due to health reasons. The ticket is at
will call and we can arrange to have it transferred to your name.

Thank you-
Kallie
415-250-7584

We have two adult full festival/3 nights camping tickets available at
a discount.  Due to a death in the family (yesterday) we are unable to
attend.  We will sell them for $280 or best offer.  Please call asap
to (805) 474-8518 so I can get them to you.

Are there markets near the festival site? If so, does anyone know how far away
thy are?
One more question, camp stoves are allowed at the campsites, yes?

thanks

Hi,  there is a market in Laytonville, about 7 miles south on US-101.
However, the festival folks don't like a lot of people driving in and
out of the camp grounds.  It's best (if possible) to bring enough to
last the weekend.  Another alternative is to park you car in the "day
lot" rather than in the campground or in the parking lot used for
Riverside.  The "day lot" has pretty much un restricted in-out except
late at night.  Late at night (say 1:00 am to 6:00 am more or less)
the main gate is closed but there is a gaurd there all night who can
open it if needed (in your case though the market wouldn't be open
then anyway).  When you arrive, you'll need to get your wrist band
before being allowed to enter the camping area - you should ask them
about where you can and can't be and still has in-out access.

I believe that propane stoves are permitted as long as they are not
set directly on the ground.  On a portable table you bring is fine or
the (if not in Riverside) on the hood of your car.

                     Dan


--- In KateWolfFestival@yahoogroups.com, "Sal" <ssanchez@...> wrote:
>
> Are there markets near the festival site? If so, does anyone know
how far away thy are?
> One more question, camp stoves are allowed at the campsites, yes?
>
> thanks
>

Thanks Dan for the info.

One final question for you all.

How is the traffic on Friday? We are planning on driving up Friday morning and
getting there
between 9-noon. Will there be a lot of traffic at the festival site or does it
get worse after
noonish?

thanks again,
-sal-

We are wondering if there is anyplace to sit and eat (tables?) in the
food vendors area ??  Or do we bring our own chairs ?
   Also, if we have to leave on Sunday, will we be able to drive out
from the Meadowlands Car Camp or Quiet Camp without too much trouble?
In other words, do all the camping places have access to the exit
road ?  (we know that Riverside is a different situation).
Thanks,
Pat & Marilyn

I have one ticket for Friday night for sale. I am willing to negotiate a price.
You can call me at
530 961 2772