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RE: [KL] A future for sample CD-ROMs for Kurzweils

Hi again

I just thought to append on my comment about "washing machine front panels".

I guess the thing about the K2500 for me is having an instrument which is
topnotch in the ROM department, can be augmented by expensive soundware, but
also that doesn't have to sound like anything I or you have ever heard
before. It's kind of like inventing your own instrument but without needing
a Ph.D in electronics or software...

I really like the idea of sampling something that sounds not dissimilar to
something I understand, like a kickdrum, and then tweaking it to sound a bit
different, but using it in that context. In the context of a mix, something
in your head says, that the sound is playing where the kickdrum should be,
but the sound is, is... Well, not the same as a kickdrum. It works, it
makes sense, but it is a spot of lateral thinking in the use of the sound.
This one actually happened by accident one day when I kicked the front panel
totally by accident. It just sounded musical.

I hope you didn't for one minute think that I was proposing you spend $400
on a CD-ROM of domestic appliance thumping samples! Oh I can see it now -
Zanussi with a rubber mallet, Hotpoint glass tings, Electrolux side panels
in stereo... ;-)

What I would like are diskloads of analogue-esque programs using
sine/square/saw/filter but with other DSP functions and effects. Samples
are great, but you couldn't in the old days. So I'd like to really push the
K2500 into a corner and explore its synthesis capabilties away from real
instruments. Who knows, maybe there's a Kurz2500 only sound in there
somewhere?

with kind regards
David Day

Director,
Studio 9 Ltd.

Studio 9 - Multimedia Studios
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Fri Jun 8, 2001 8:04 am

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You make a lot of sense! On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:11:34 +0100 "David Day" <david.day@...> ... for specific purposes, and ... from the posts here that...
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Hi again I just thought to append on my comment about "washing machine front panels". I guess the thing about the K2500 for me is having an instrument which is...
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My two cents I am a 'weekend' musician and K2000 user sharing the sentiments regarding laying out big cash for CD's - not for me. Recently however I bought a...
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... I couldn't agree more, Marc. If the sound set one wants is too expensive, then save some of that paycheck each month until one can afford it. I can see...
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