Hi all,
i try to use the H.C. software with live-styler 11 (demo)
the sound is very good, but i have a problem for thr solo selection.
The GM.isf file permit only 128 sound (GM); is pssible to create (or  better,
exist) a file "GM2.isf" ??
The isf is better for the selection of sound with a touch screen, but a lid file
is also ok.
Ciao  Marco

Hi All,
        Has anybody experienced when pushing a key on external keyboard
LiveStyler receives random midi notes. For instance pressing a key on keyboard
Livestyler receives a midi message and releasing it, receives another different
message but if you press the exact same key it receives an entirely different
midi message and on repeating this the midi notes seem random. Close LiveStyler
and restart can fix this until it happens again for reason unknown.

I am using Casio PX-410R keyboard (USB connection) and LiveStyler nothing else
running.

Not the sort of thing you want to happen playing live!

Any input appreciated.

Thanks
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Hey Mike,
ok!
here the simplest way.

First, bild a owen .lid file for vsthost prest-change- in LS

like:

1,0,0  Vsti Mix 1
2,0,0  Vsti Mix 2
3,0,0  Vsti Mix 3

and so one....

next, go to vsthost and make here youre several Preset

save as: maybe "1"; "2","3"......


next, in vsthost go to Devices; Midi; Remote

Remote:

Type: progam ;  channel 1 or all others up to Ch.9


End:

Load in LS youre xx.Lid file in maybe R1 and use here the same midijoke string
as Style Midi & Drums.

Know you can change every Preset of Vsthost from R1 (LS) and save it
in LS Prest (Songbook)

Good luck
Schully









> Maybe I should do it the other way, sending messages for vst host to live
styler, to select different presets?
>
> --- Ven 4/9/09, schullybi <schully@...> ha scritto:
>
>
> Da: schullybi <schully@...>
> Oggetto: R: [LiveStyler] Re:VSTi R2-R8 for accomp.
> A: LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com
> Data: Venerdė 4 settembre 2009, 10:25
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hy Mike,
> you have to use a secound vsthost to LS.
>
> First, rout all style-channels (10-16) of LS with Midiyoke to an other
> Host.
>
> - Seib VSTHOST is a good one freeware alternatve-
>
> Here, you must split the Channels to youre seperat vsti´s.
>
> This kind of Instruments now save as an Perset in these Host.
>
> At least you load a style in LS und saved the secound hostpreset in
> Solopreset of LS.
>
> End: Make from all of as a LS-Preset (Songbook)
>
> Know, when you change the LS-Preset, all the vsti´s will be changed too with
each style.
>
> best wishes
>
> Schully
>
> > With midiyoke it's easy:1) I first open Cubase then Live Styler.
> >                                    2) Drum and accomp part will have
midiyoke out 2, while cubase 
> >                                     midiyoke in 2( tracks), but you will
have to filter the channels in    
> >                                      cubase 
> >                                      with the logical editor.
> >                                    3) At this point you can load anything
into cubase and have it play
> >                                      the Live Styler channels  
> >                                      you will have set and filtered before.
> >                                    4) Finally midiyoke 1 may be used as
input for a keyboard on Live 
> >                                       Styler.
> >  PS. Don't forget to record enable the tracks in cubase, otherwise they
won't play.
> >  
> > Conclusion: I'm not too fond of this set up .I've still got to figure out
how to automatically
> >                   load different VSTi.
> >                                    
> >
> > --- Mer 2/9/09, oiradranlom@ ... <oiradranlom@ ...> ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > Da: oiradranlom@ ... <oiradranlom@ ...>
> > Oggetto: R: [LiveStyler] Re:VSTi R2-R8 for accomp.
> > A: LiveStyler@yahoogro ups.com
> > Data: Mercoledė 2 settembre 2009, 22:17
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > I am also interested in how to split the melody part of the accomp.
> > You are able to sent channel 10 to another sampler, but how do you send ch
9, 11, 12, 13 separate. That is my biggest problem. I am pretty sure using midi
yoke and midiox that is possible. HOW is my question?
> >
> > --- In LiveStyler@yahoogro ups.com, Michael Rodi <mikerodi@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Mr. Stellberg,
> > > Thankyou for having replied.
> > > My question might have been a bit confusing.
> > > What I would like to know is if different vst instruments can play in the
accomp section or in other words, how can I tell Live Styler which channels to
send to which VST instruments? Or is this done in the Style Converter?
> > > Style Converter seems like a patch mapper, but if it is possible, could
you please explain how to do it.
> > >  
> > > Thankyou for your patience.
> > >  
> > > Best regards,
> > > Michael.
> > >
> > > --- Mar 1/9/09, Norbert Stellberg <stellberg@ ..> ha scritto:
> > >
> > >
> > > Da: Norbert Stellberg <stellberg@ ..>
> > > Oggetto: [LiveStyler] Re:VSTi R2-R8 for accomp.
> > > A: LiveStyler@yahoogro ups.com
> > > Data: Martedė 1 settembre 2009, 13:07
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >  
> > > do you has test StyleConverter. exe
> > > (It is a program in LS included)
> > >  
> > > with best regards
> > > Norbert
> > >
> >
>

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Hy Mike,
you have to use a secound vsthost to LS.

First, rout all style-channels (10-16) of LS with Midiyoke to an other
Host.

-  Seib VSTHOST is a good one freeware alternatve-

Here, you must split the Channels to youre seperat vsti´s.

This kind of Instruments now save as an Perset in these Host.

At least you load a style in LS und saved  the secound hostpreset in
Solopreset of LS.

End: Make from all of as a LS-Preset (Songbook)

Know, when you change the LS-Preset, all the vsti´s will be changed too with
each style.


best wishes

  Schully





> With midiyoke it's easy:1) I first open Cubase then Live Styler.
>                                    2) Drum and accomp part will have midiyoke
out 2, while cubase 
>                                     midiyoke in 2( tracks), but you will have
to filter the channels in    
>                                      cubase 
>                                      with the logical editor.
>                                    3) At this point you can load anything into
cubase and have it play
>                                      the Live Styler channels  
>                                      you will have set and filtered before.
>                                    4) Finally midiyoke 1 may be used as input
for a keyboard on Live 
>                                       Styler.
>  PS. Don't forget to record enable the tracks in cubase, otherwise they won't
play.
>  
> Conclusion: I'm not too fond of this set up .I've still got to figure out how
to automatically
>                   load different VSTi.
>                                    
>
> --- Mer 2/9/09, oiradranlom@... <oiradranlom@...> ha scritto:
>
>
> Da: oiradranlom@... <oiradranlom@...>
> Oggetto: R: [LiveStyler] Re:VSTi R2-R8 for accomp.
> A: LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com
> Data: Mercoledė 2 settembre 2009, 22:17
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I am also interested in how to split the melody part of the accomp.
> You are able to sent channel 10 to another sampler, but how do you send ch 9,
11, 12, 13 separate. That is my biggest problem. I am pretty sure using midi
yoke and midiox that is possible. HOW is my question?
>
> --- In LiveStyler@yahoogro ups.com, Michael Rodi <mikerodi@ .> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Mr. Stellberg,
> > Thankyou for having replied.
> > My question might have been a bit confusing.
> > What I would like to know is if different vst instruments can play in the
accomp section or in other words, how can I tell Live Styler which channels to
send to which VST instruments? Or is this done in the Style Converter?
> > Style Converter seems like a patch mapper, but if it is possible, could you
please explain how to do it.
> >  
> > Thankyou for your patience.
> >  
> > Best regards,
> > Michael.
> >
> > --- Mar 1/9/09, Norbert Stellberg <stellberg@ ..> ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > Da: Norbert Stellberg <stellberg@ ..>
> > Oggetto: [LiveStyler] Re:VSTi R2-R8 for accomp.
> > A: LiveStyler@yahoogro ups.com
> > Data: Martedė 1 settembre 2009, 13:07
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >  
> > do you has test StyleConverter. exe
> > (It is a program in LS included)
> >  
> > with best regards
> > Norbert
> >
>

I am also interested in how to split the melody part of the accomp.
You are able to sent channel 10 to another sampler, but how do you send ch 9,
11, 12, 13 separate. That is my biggest problem. I am pretty sure using midi
yoke and midiox that is possible. HOW is my question?

--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, Michael Rodi <mikerodi@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. Stellberg,
> Thankyou for having replied.
> My question might have been a bit confusing.
> What I would like to know is if different vst instruments can play in the
accomp section or in other words, how can I tell Live Styler which channels to
send to which VST instruments? Or is this done in the Style Converter?
> Style Converter seems like a patch mapper, but if it is possible, could you
please explain how to do it.
>  
> Thankyou for your patience.
>  
> Best regards,
> Michael.
>
> --- Mar 1/9/09, Norbert Stellberg <stellberg@...> ha scritto:
>
>
> Da: Norbert Stellberg <stellberg@...>
> Oggetto: [LiveStyler] Re:VSTi R2-R8 for accomp.
> A: LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com
> Data: Martedė 1 settembre 2009, 13:07
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> Hello,
>  
> do you has test StyleConverter. exe
> (It is a program in LS included)
>  
> with best regards
> Norbert
>

Hello

> What I wanted to know was... could I load say... Bandstand from NI onto R1,
Trillogy onto R2 or other, Realstrat guitar on R3 or other and have them all
respond to various parts of the accomp?


do you has test StyleConverter.exe?
(It is a program in LS included)

with best regards
Norbert

--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, "Norbert Stellberg" <stellberg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> it seems, you use a VST Plugin.
> it seems, you use the Creative ASIO drivers.
> This problem is known ONLY, when you use the
> Creative ASIO drivers.
> Please use instead ASIO4ALL.
> with best regards
> Norbert
>
Where can I send you a style that I use and proteusvx
(http://www.emu.com/promo/proteusvx/welcome.asp)(free emu sampler)
That way you can try it and see what I am talking about.
I do use Asio4all.
Problem is the GM and XG bank I think.
I use styles from Agaton (YUMIDI.COM) which are done very professionally. So I
am sure it is not the styles.

My .sty and other yamaha styles sound really bad and out of tune. My drums do
not match the drums when I play am on Yamaha psr3000 and when I play athem on
LS. Drums are all over the place. Guitar plays GMajor and Strings play Aminor.
What should i do.
I am also trying to use Proteus x2(sampler) for accomp. and drums sound even
worse with it. They stop and start and break and one time it hits a hi-hat the
other time a bass drum.
Please help
I have
Audigy 2 zs sound card

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Hi all,

I bought the Live Styler Plus version and are happy with it. There are so many
options to play with! I am using the live styler together with a Wersi organ and
a Ketron SD2 module.

There are some part which I am struggling with:

* After loading a new style, then the assignment for R1..R8 is gone. It goes
back to the grandpiano setting. Is there a way to freeze this setting so that it
doesn't default after loading a new style? (Ofcourse, I should also work with
presets; this is my next 'chapter to discover'. If that is the solution, then it
is clear. Per default I would expect that the assignment wouldn't change if the
style doesn't indicate preferred instruments.)

* If I am reselecting R1..R8 solo voices, which are set to Ketron SD2, then the
assignment goes sometimes to the wrong channel. E.g. by pressing the R3 solo
button, then often the assignment is not going to R3 but to R2! I don't know why
there is a mismatch.

* (I think this is a SD2 problem...) In a lot of styles, the melody track is not
sounding good at the SD2. I have selected GM mode for the SD2. I have even
updated the SD2 firmware. It seems that there is often something in the melody
which doesn't play well on a SD2. If I change the melody to another sound
source, then it sounds ok.

Greetings, Henry.

Thanks, Pedro & Norbert.

I will have to look more into it.  I have read somewhere on the net that it is
possible to the same extension names to two different applications.

Chris

--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, "Pedro Vieira" <pedrovieira99@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> I don't think that is really possible, but if you do not find a solution
somewhere else, you can always add a custom operation to the file when you
right-click it in the browser.
>
> You can do this by opening Windows Explorer, menu Tools-->Folder
Options-->File Types-->(click on the STY file type)-->Advanced-->New
>
> Then add a new Action, by entering name like "Open in Live Styler" and the
path to the LS executable.
>
> After this, every time you right-click on STY file you will have the option to
"Open in Live Styler".
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Best regards,
> Pedro Vieira
>
>

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--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, "Norbert Stellberg"
<stellberg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> Asio4All is ONLY for VST plugins.
> When you install Asio4All, this solved NOT your latence problems.
> -
> But you must tell us, what for a midi output do you use.
> When you use for example YAMAHA XG SoftSynthesizer, the the latence
> is this tool.
> -
> Live-Styler: Live-Styler has not any latences. The latence comes from the
> hardware or from the  sound software.
> I assume, your problem is your very old WERSI Performer with your
> M4U midi interface. The most user with latence problems has this problem
> with an USB midi interface and old device drivers. Perhaps it is possible,
that your laptop
> only USB 1.0 supported.
> -
> SD2 is a very good decision. By myself I use this modul. The sound is
> best quality. But this modul is only good, when you has not any latences :)
>
> What do you can do:
> 1. Check: has your Laptop USB 2.0
> 2. Tell me your output device
>
> with best regards
> Norbert
>

Pedro, Norbert,

Thanks for your information on ASIO4ALL. I didn't knew that it was in particular
useful for VST's. I do have some of them (e.g. the yamaha XG), so it might be
helpful there.

Yesterday evening I did some more experiments and reconfiguration of LS. The
latency is now that low that it is playable now. I bid on the SD2 and hopefully
will hear today if that will succeed.

Greetings, Henry.

----- Original Message -----

From: reed2025

To: LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 AM

Subject: [LiveStyler] Same File Extension

Both LS .sty file extension and a Band in a Box file format with the same extension .sty are associated with BIAB in my computer. How do I assign these files to two different programs?

Thanks,

Chris

----- Original Message -----

From: Henry Kompagnie

To: LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:32 AM

Subject: [LiveStyler] Livestyler: latency decrease by ASIO4ALL?

Hi all,

- - - being new here, let me introduce myself - - -

I am just experimenting with live styler for my hobby of playing the organ/keyboard at amateur level. My compliments already to Norbert for this wonderful tool! I certainly consider buying it. Background: I want to 'upgrade' my old Wersi Performer keyboard/organ, but the available styles etc. are still priced in the old glory days of organs. I am bidding on a Ketron SD2 expander to get voice quality improvements.

In the experiments, I encountered a big latency, which makes live playing not possible. The problem could be tracked back to the midi interface: it is a M4U midi interface. I installed the latests drivers and now the latency has been greatly reduced. But there is still some of it. Marginal, but sometimes annoying.

My question here is: would it help further if I would install ASIO4ALL? I don't fully understand what that program exactly does, but I see several notes about it in these kind of forums.

My gear setup now: wersi performer --midi--> M4U --usb--> laptop --usb--> M4U --midi--> wersi performer. The laptop is an oldie: AMD Athlon 1.9GHz, running XP. In the process of acquiring a SD2 to do the sound generation. (And alternatively, also a Walther midi accordeon and a Digital Classic Piano as input tools.)

Greetings, Henry. The Netherlands.

Hi all,

- - - being new here, let me introduce myself - - -

I am just experimenting with live styler for my hobby of playing the
organ/keyboard at amateur level. My compliments already to Norbert for this
wonderful tool! I certainly consider buying it. Background: I want to 'upgrade'
my old Wersi Performer keyboard/organ, but the available styles etc. are still
priced in the old glory days of organs. I am bidding on a Ketron SD2 expander to
get voice quality improvements.

In the experiments, I encountered a big latency, which makes live playing not
possible. The problem could be tracked back to the midi interface: it is a M4U
midi interface. I installed the latests drivers and now the latency has been
greatly reduced. But there is still some of it. Marginal, but sometimes
annoying.

My question here is: would it help further if I would install ASIO4ALL? I don't
fully understand what that program exactly does, but I see several notes about
it in these kind of forums.

My gear setup now: wersi performer --midi--> M4U --usb--> laptop --usb--> M4U
--midi--> wersi performer. The laptop is an oldie: AMD Athlon 1.9GHz, running
XP. In the process of acquiring a SD2 to do the sound generation. (And
alternatively, also a Walther midi accordeon and a Digital Classic Piano as
input tools.)

Greetings, Henry.   The Netherlands.

Both LS .sty file extension and a Band in a Box file format with the same
extension .sty are associated with BIAB in my computer.   How do I assign these
files to two different programs?

Thanks,

Chris