Hi Group,
I am considering buying a disk with a load of Ketron Styles on it. I
have found a few Ketron styles on the web and they seem to sound better
and are easier to use than the Yamaha based styles IMHO.
Would anyone care to comment which disc would be best to purchase?
One is :
KETRON STYLES X1 X4 X8 SD1 SD1+ XD MIDJAY & StylePlayer
The other is:
KETRON STYLES FOR XD Series XD3 XD8 XD9 XD 9 SD5 SD8
According to the "news" Live Styler will handle either of these groups
of styles as far as I know.Rhese are the GigaStyles discs. I found them
on Ebay.I spoke with someone on the net who said they were nothing
special. I assume that person had Ketron styles already from a Ketron
arranger keyboard. I do not. Anyone care to comment?
Thanks,
LooseBruce
PS Have a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
Hi group,
I am an accordion player using Live-Styler. I am having a great time with it.
It is sooo...oo versatile. This is a very deep program and you can cutomize it
to work the way you want.I am trying to learn to PLAY it just the way you learn
to play an instrument.
I am considering using a touch screen to control it. I see some ELO
touchscreen MONITORS available on eBay. Can anyone tell me what I should look
for in certain models? Is it possible to use an ELO touch screen monitor with my
notebook computer. The idea would be to keep the computer closed and just use
the touchscreen to control Live-Styler.
Any thoughts would be appreciated, especially from touch screen users.
BTW, I also use the FCB 1010 foot controller. I have seen a nice video online
but the talking is in French. I often go to foreign language sites and use
Babelfish to translate. I can't translate the audio however. If anyone knows
what is being said I woulkd appreciate a translation.
thanks,
LooseBruce
Hi Group,
I am looking for a little more info on the touch screen idea.I am bidding on
this one:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&item=140\
311613595
It is an ELO 1545L. I think it may work with my lap top. I understand I have to
mount it and get the softwaare. Does anyone know if this will work?
I will Probably have to bid higher to get it. Any info would be appreciated.
thanks,
Bruce
--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, "Norbert Stellberg" <stellberg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> shure, the touch is a normaly TFT display
> with an USB or serial connection.
>
> with best regards
> Norbert
>
Hi Group,
Well I received my ELO touchscreen from eBay last night. It had been recycled
from a photo kiosk.I downloaded a driver from the ELO site and after a short
calibration procedure it is off and running!!
It works GREAT!
I am going to have fun with this one.
Now I need to figure out some kind of enclosure and stand for on stage. Right
now it is sitting in a hole I cut in the cardboard box it was shipped in.
LooseBruce
Hi all,
I am experimenting with the latest version of LS and am frustrated to say the
least.
I am using an Alesis QS6 kb'd via a midiman midi to usb cable with a 2.7 gig
Intel HP dc7800 small form factor (1/2 size cards limiting card choice) and
onboard
IntelŪ Q35 Express Chipset
2 gig ram
High Def (Soundmax) integrated audio
USB2 connects (probably working at usb1 speed to accommodate the midiman cable)
I have experimented with asio4all.
There is a sufficiently noticeable chopiness on chord changes (that would not
occur on an arranger kbd) to prevent me from using LS as a viable medium.
But believe it or not, an even greater frustration is the nag screen that not
only interrupts my exploration of the demo prog, but insists on monopolising my
screen real estate regardless of what else I am doing...
THERE IT GOES AGAIN!!!!! in the middle of writing on this webpage.
I have paid for and own BIAB and OMB so I have no problem investing in creative
excellence.
Norbert, I understand the need for software protection, but I am confident you
could sufficiently cripple the demo without using this technique.
Otherwise I like the general layout, accessability, and
AAAAAARGH! THERE IT GOES AGAIN.
Cheers all, and thanks in advance for your ideas.
Beres Bartlett
I agree. I also saw the 'choppiness' in the rhythm, but wasn't sure what was
causing it. The nag screen has effectively prevented me from a full evaluation
of the software so I uninstalled the program and will look elsewhere. It's a
pity as the program looked pretty interesting at first glance.
Rick
--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, "Don Bartlett" <beresbart@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am experimenting with the latest version of LS and am frustrated to say the
least.
> I am using an Alesis QS6 kb'd via a midiman midi to usb cable with a 2.7 gig
Intel HP dc7800 small form factor (1/2 size cards limiting card choice) and
onboard
[snip]
> Cheers all, and thanks in advance for your ideas.
> Beres Bartlett
>
Hi,
I would like to comment here even though I don't have technical answers. I use
an M-audio anniversary 2 x 2 (which is midiman). It is imperative to use the
latest driver for your operating system. I have had best sucess with XP with any
music work I have done so I never use Vista for anything if I can help it.
I had many frustrating hours trying to get LS to work. However... I did
suceed.I am using LS with a Ketron SD-2. I am using only one set of the 2 midi
ports available on the midi interface.I am using it for both the LS
accompianment instruments as well as 3 solo instruments simultaneously. Since I
play accordion the bass, chord and treble keboard are each a separate
instrument. Also the chord section of the accordion changes the chords for LS.
In addition I have keys on the treble keyboard assigned to change funcions in LS
such as breaks,fills,octave selection, call up screens to mute instruments, etc.
I sometimes also use a foot controller to control other options in LS. When I
originally had a midi interface that would not do the job and I had many
problems. After I got my current midi interface and finally used the latest
drivers many problems went away.
Another tip is to uncheck the box that says to save changes on exiting
progrm.When you are experimenting with what works and what does not crashes wil
leave you with unpredictable configurations. I have noticed that this box
automatically rechecks itself and you must uncheck it.
A last suggestion is to be careful of what styles you use. LS is designed to
use styles from many different authors for different arranger keyboards. I would
stick with some of the provided styles until you learn more about the program.
Any particular arranger keyboard
Norbert has been very good about helping to solve problems that are not of his
making. LS is EXTREMLELY versatile and therfore is often complicated. Any
particular arranger keyboard does not have to deal with various, computers,
operating systems, sound modules, configurations, etc. IMHO it is a long road
but well worth the trouble.
I also was frustrated when using the demo. I gave up a couple of times. Even
after I bought the full version I gave up a couple of times. I could find
nothing else that would do whatever I wanted and eventually learned my way
around this program.I'm glad I did.
Just tryin' to help,
LooseBruce
" <beresbart@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I am experimenting with the latest version of LS and am frustrated to say the
least.
> I am using an Alesis QS6 kb'd via a midiman midi to usb cable with a 2.7 gig
Intel HP dc7800 small form factor (1/2 size cards limiting card choice) and
onboard
> IntelŪ Q35 Express Chipset
> 2 gig ram
> High Def (Soundmax) integrated audio
> USB2 connects (probably working at usb1 speed to accommodate the midiman
cable)
>
> I have experimented with asio4all.
>
> There is a sufficiently noticeable chopiness on chord changes (that would not
occur on an arranger kbd) to prevent me from using LS as a viable medium.
>
> But believe it or not, an even greater frustration is the nag screen that not
only interrupts my exploration of the demo prog, but insists on monopolising my
screen real estate regardless of what else I am doing...
>
> THERE IT GOES AGAIN!!!!! in the middle of writing on this webpage.
>
> I have paid for and own BIAB and OMB so I have no problem investing in
creative excellence.
>
> Norbert, I understand the need for software protection, but I am confident you
could sufficiently cripple the demo without using this technique.
>
> Otherwise I like the general layout, accessability, and
> AAAAAARGH! THERE IT GOES AGAIN.
> Cheers all, and thanks in advance for your ideas.
> Beres Bartlett
>
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Both LS .sty file extension and a Band in a Box file format with the same
extension .sty are associated with BIAB in my computer. How do I assign these
files to two different programs?
Thanks,
Chris
Hi all,
- - - being new here, let me introduce myself - - -
I am just experimenting with live styler for my hobby of playing the
organ/keyboard at amateur level. My compliments already to Norbert for this
wonderful tool! I certainly consider buying it. Background: I want to 'upgrade'
my old Wersi Performer keyboard/organ, but the available styles etc. are still
priced in the old glory days of organs. I am bidding on a Ketron SD2 expander to
get voice quality improvements.
In the experiments, I encountered a big latency, which makes live playing not
possible. The problem could be tracked back to the midi interface: it is a M4U
midi interface. I installed the latests drivers and now the latency has been
greatly reduced. But there is still some of it. Marginal, but sometimes
annoying.
My question here is: would it help further if I would install ASIO4ALL? I don't
fully understand what that program exactly does, but I see several notes about
it in these kind of forums.
My gear setup now: wersi performer --midi--> M4U --usb--> laptop --usb--> M4U
--midi--> wersi performer. The laptop is an oldie: AMD Athlon 1.9GHz, running
XP. In the process of acquiring a SD2 to do the sound generation. (And
alternatively, also a Walther midi accordeon and a Digital Classic Piano as
input tools.)
Greetings, Henry. The Netherlands.
ASIO4ALL is an audio driver, and as such it only reduces latency if you are producing audio from your PC, for instance if you are using a software synth.
I believe this is not your case, as you are routing the livestyler MIDI output back to your keyboard, so no audio is produced by the laptop.
Nevertheless, if it were the case, ASIO4ALL actually helps reducing latency: you just install it and change the output audio device of the software synth to the ASIO driver.
Subject: [LiveStyler] Livestyler: latency decrease by ASIO4ALL?
Hi all,
- - - being new here, let me introduce myself - - -
I am just experimenting with live styler for my hobby of playing the organ/keyboard at amateur level. My compliments already to Norbert for this wonderful tool! I certainly consider buying it. Background: I want to 'upgrade' my old Wersi Performer keyboard/organ, but the available styles etc. are still priced in the old glory days of organs. I am bidding on a Ketron SD2 expander to get voice quality improvements.
In the experiments, I encountered a big latency, which makes live playing not possible. The problem could be tracked back to the midi interface: it is a M4U midi interface. I installed the latests drivers and now the latency has been greatly reduced. But there is still some of it. Marginal, but sometimes annoying.
My question here is: would it help further if I would install ASIO4ALL? I don't fully understand what that program exactly does, but I see several notes about it in these kind of forums.
My gear setup now: wersi performer --midi--> M4U --usb--> laptop --usb--> M4U --midi--> wersi performer. The laptop is an oldie: AMD Athlon 1.9GHz, running XP. In the process of acquiring a SD2 to do the sound generation. (And alternatively, also a Walther midi accordeon and a Digital Classic Piano as input tools.)
I don't think that is really possible, but if you do not find a solution somewhere else, you can always add a custom operation to the file when you right-click it in the browser.
You can do this by opening Windows Explorer, menu Tools-->Folder Options-->File Types-->(click on the STY file type)-->Advanced-->New
Then add a new Action, by entering name like "Open in Live Styler" and the path to the LS executable.
After this, every time you right-click on STY file you will have the option to "Open in Live Styler".
Both LS .sty file extension and a Band in a Box file format with the same extension .sty are associated with BIAB in my computer. How do I assign these files to two different programs?
--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, "Norbert Stellberg"
<stellberg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
> Asio4All is ONLY for VST plugins.
> When you install Asio4All, this solved NOT your latence problems.
> -
> But you must tell us, what for a midi output do you use.
> When you use for example YAMAHA XG SoftSynthesizer, the the latence
> is this tool.
> -
> Live-Styler: Live-Styler has not any latences. The latence comes from the
> hardware or from the sound software.
> I assume, your problem is your very old WERSI Performer with your
> M4U midi interface. The most user with latence problems has this problem
> with an USB midi interface and old device drivers. Perhaps it is possible,
that your laptop
> only USB 1.0 supported.
> -
> SD2 is a very good decision. By myself I use this modul. The sound is
> best quality. But this modul is only good, when you has not any latences :)
>
> What do you can do:
> 1. Check: has your Laptop USB 2.0
> 2. Tell me your output device
>
> with best regards
> Norbert
>
Pedro, Norbert,
Thanks for your information on ASIO4ALL. I didn't knew that it was in particular
useful for VST's. I do have some of them (e.g. the yamaha XG), so it might be
helpful there.
Yesterday evening I did some more experiments and reconfiguration of LS. The
latency is now that low that it is playable now. I bid on the SD2 and hopefully
will hear today if that will succeed.
Greetings, Henry.
Thanks, Pedro & Norbert.
I will have to look more into it. I have read somewhere on the net that it is
possible to the same extension names to two different applications.
Chris
--- In LiveStyler@yahoogroups.com, "Pedro Vieira" <pedrovieira99@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Chris,
>
> I don't think that is really possible, but if you do not find a solution
somewhere else, you can always add a custom operation to the file when you
right-click it in the browser.
>
> You can do this by opening Windows Explorer, menu Tools-->Folder
Options-->File Types-->(click on the STY file type)-->Advanced-->New
>
> Then add a new Action, by entering name like "Open in Live Styler" and the
path to the LS executable.
>
> After this, every time you right-click on STY file you will have the option to
"Open in Live Styler".
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Best regards,
> Pedro Vieira
>
>
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