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Re: Sad symmetric septimal minor tune

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Walker"
<robertwalker@n...> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I've just written a sad tune in a symmetrical septimal
> minor scale (does it have a special name, anyone know?)
>
> The scale is:
>
> 1/1 8/7 7/6 4/3 3/2 12/7 7/4 2/1
>
> and the tune is here as a midi clip:
>
>
http://www.tunesmithy.netfirms.com/tunes/tunes.htm#sad_septimal_minor
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert

David Canright has a melodic-harmonic diagram of this scale here:

http://www.redshift.com/~dcanright/harmel/fig5.gif

The lines show the 3:2s and 7:4s, while position along the vertical
axis shows pitch.




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Hi there, I've just written a sad tune in a symmetrical septimal minor scale (does it have a special name, anyone know?) The scale is: 1/1 8/7 7/6 4/3 3/2 12/7...
Robert Walker
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May 13, 2004
12:08 pm

... I don't know the name but the pentatonics using 8/7 or 7/6 and 12/7 or 7/4 are used by Lou Harrison....
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May 13, 2004
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Hi Jim, ... Rightio, thanks. I suppose the scale I used has a pentatonic feel to it with the second and minor third so close to each other as to be almost...
Robert Walker
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May 13, 2004
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... http://www.tunesmithy.netfirms.com/tunes/tunes.htm#sad_septimal_minor ... David Canright has a melodic-harmonic diagram of this scale here: ...
Paul Erlich
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May 13, 2004
9:23 pm

Hi Paul, Thanks! A useful find :-). This scale is very rich in harmonic possibilities isn't it, what with the 7/6s as well and the 9/7 and its reflection...
Robert Walker
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May 14, 2004
8:13 pm

... It, and your description below, reminds me a lot of a 'diatonic' scale in 22-equal formed from a chain of (wide) fifths -- particularly in the aeolian...
Paul Erlich
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May 14, 2004
10:20 pm

Oh, and Aaron, if you were reading it, what I wrote about 22-equal below also applies to your tuning . . . the chain of (36:7)^(1/4) s . . . have you tried...
Paul Erlich
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May 18, 2004
2:19 am

Hi Paul, Yes I forgot about the 21/16. Wouldn't think of those as low number ratios indeed. I'll just call it a "Very septimal Dorian" then for now. That's...
Robert Walker
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May 16, 2004
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Hi Kraig, ... Rightio - I see he has it listed there as one of the scales. I've just looked up in Google to find out about him, rather a nice story here: ...
Robert Walker
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May 16, 2004
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Dear Robert and everyone, Thank you for that septimal minor or more specifically Dorian scale, which I've tried and find gives a special rationale for a JI...
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May 18, 2004
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Dear Margo, and everyone, Thanks for your example of a pythagorean scale with septimal commas to achieve Al Farabi's very septimal Dorian scale as one of the...
Robert Walker
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May 20, 2004
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... Hi Robert, This is one of the most fascinating posts I've seen in a long time. Would you mind getting a bit deeper on all this on one of the more ...
Paul Erlich
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May 20, 2004
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Hi Paul (continued from MakeMicroMusic, see end of: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/message/6700 ) ... The curves are maybe best explained ...
Robert Walker
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May 21, 2004
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... I'm assuming you mean Sethares-style inharmonic timbres, which are neither sine curves nor harmonic timbres. Am I understanding you correctly? ... when...
Paul Erlich
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May 21, 2004
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Hi Paul, Rightio, I've posted a reply to tuning and then it can be followed up wherever. ... Sorry everyone - I have just posted it to MMM instead by mistake...
Robert Walker
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Hi Paul, ... Yes, I think so. Made by stacking e.g. sine curves, or also other curves such as rounded saw tooth etc into a harmonic series of pitches with the...
Robert Walker
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May 21, 2004
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... Thanks, I replied there. -Paul...
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