I've found it useful to take the .0015 measurement with my thumb close to the glass gauge marking I'd expect (like pressing my thumb on the gauge around 60 for...
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Sakshama Koloski
sakshama2
Jun 23, 2010 7:09 am
"I've found it useful to take the .0015 measurement with my thumb close to the glass gauge marking I'd expect (like pressing my thumb on the gauge around 60...
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Dan Torosian
dantorosian
Jun 23, 2010 12:18 pm
I don't know what the tolerances are - I just know that if the .0015 feeler stays put, the table isn't convex for the practical purposes of refacing. DT ...
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Keith Bradbury
kwbradbury
Jun 23, 2010 1:23 pm
I think he was asking how much do you allow the facing length measurement to change as you move your thumb down the glass gage. I think your answer is...
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gregwier
Jun 23, 2010 2:13 pm
Another test of a "true" table is the method of moderately wetting the table and adhering the mouthpiece to the glass with the mouthpiece under the glass. If...
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tenorman1952
Jun 23, 2010 2:28 pm
Yes, about thumb position, and also, wipe the mouthpiece clean, and the glass gauge clean every time you measure. Paul...
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Dan Torosian
dantorosian
Jun 23, 2010 2:37 pm
Yes, true - thanks for clarifying. With metal mouthpieces in particular, setting it on glass and trying to gently spin it can find major high spots - tap the...
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Keith Bradbury
kwbradbury
Jun 23, 2010 4:04 pm
I used to occassionally wet the table. But I now think this can mask a small convexity. ________________________________ From: gregwier...
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John Zangrando
zangsax
Jun 23, 2010 6:07 pm
An easy way to quickly check rails is to wet piece, put under glass and "roll" toward tip you can see one rail move more quickly than the other if they are...
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Sakshama Koloski
sakshama2
Jun 24, 2010 7:58 am
By my experience the .0015 never stays put. If you apply pressure on top of the table versus the bottom no matter how flat the table is you will get at least...
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Morgan
frymorgan
Jun 24, 2010 3:39 pm
Aside from the feel test which has been mentioned, look at it. I have a granite worktop sample (maybe 4"X6") that I put the mouthpiece on, and hold it up to...
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Silverio Potenza
silpopaar
Jun 24, 2010 4:55 pm
Hi colegues: Sorry by my poor English language. I measure rounded tables starting with the standard glass gage and one cigarretes papel such come double. Such...
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Edward McLean
keith29236
Jun 25, 2010 7:23 pm
... ...There should be no rocking of the gauge on a FLAT table. I am having success holding my 1ft(30cm) steel ruler up to the light, lengthwise and across the...
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Peter Deley
pfdeley
Jun 25, 2010 7:39 pm
Thanks Eddie, Yours is the first answer that actually discusses how you actually get the table flat. Everyone else just showed how to measure for a flat...
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STEVE GOODSON
saxgourmet
Jun 25, 2010 7:54 pm
This is the process we use to flatten the table: (1) we swipe the mouthpiece from side to side on a diamond faced lapping plate and observe the visible high...
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Edward McLean
keith29236
Jun 26, 2010 11:40 am
... It is a hobby and a learning curve for me.....pun intended. Eddie....
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skygardener1
Jun 27, 2010 11:05 am
Steve, With your method, it seems that there is a high possibility of creating a high spot in the center of the table if you are not holding the mouthpiece...
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STEVE GOODSON
saxgourmet
Jun 27, 2010 2:26 pm
I think that I'm safe to say that if you cannot figure out how to hold the mouthpiece, you should most likely not be attempting any refacing or leveling........
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Robert W. Smith
satb_winds
Jun 27, 2010 2:59 pm
No need to go THERE so fast! Sky's comments were obviously seeking advice. Not harrangue. Is there a more helpful comment you could have made? Something...
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STEVE GOODSON
saxgourmet
Jun 27, 2010 3:35 pm
His comment was that if you don't hold the mouthpiece correctly, you won't get proper results. My comment is simply in agreement, nothing more. We sell a DVD...
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Robert W. Smith
satb_winds
Jun 27, 2010 4:07 pm
Okay, I'll buy that. And my apologies as well for mis-interpreting your comments. Robert ... From: STEVE GOODSON To: MouthpieceWork@yahoogroups.com Sent:...
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Mike Vaccaro
mvprod7991
Jun 27, 2010 6:59 pm
I have found, especially with metal mouthpieces, but can be used on anything, that milling a flat surface is really easy, of course assuming that the...
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Keith Bradbury
kwbradbury
Jun 28, 2010 12:50 am
The reason we need to hand flatten tables is usually because whatever milling operation is used, it is not flat enough. Some CNC work is very good, but a lot...
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Peter
pfdeley
Jun 28, 2010 1:14 am
It is true that when we get past those nice milling marks on certain brands of mouthpiece, underneath them there is often a very unlevel table with only the...
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skygardener1
Jun 28, 2010 1:53 pm
As mentioned in some other posts today, this works well with metal. I pretty much do clarinet and HR sax. Would you use the same technique for HR and metal?...
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STEVE GOODSON
saxgourmet
Jun 28, 2010 2:29 pm
We do not vary the technique between metal, plastic, wood, or hard rubber. For stainless steel, we use an additional step , which is a lapping table with a...
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Mike Vaccaro
mvprod7991
Jun 28, 2010 5:57 pm
Keith, I agree about the hand method and do flatten all rubber and composite mouthpieces by hand. I have however had very good outcomes with the mill on metal...
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STEVE GOODSON
saxgourmet
Jun 28, 2010 6:00 pm
I'd be very interested to know about using a mill.....brand and model......I've been considering buying one for some time.....any input or advice would be...
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mattmarantz86
Jun 28, 2010 11:43 pm
Great info guys, really nice to read through this and I've learned some new things from the info posted here on this topic. One thing I struggled with a whole...
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oricmuso
Jun 29, 2010 2:46 pm
I've done a bit of work on sax mouthpieces and managed to get some reasonable results. I had a mess around with a clarinet piece, opening the chamber and...
