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I was wondering what kind on playing most of you use when you play.
Do you play written songs or do you play from the heart?

While we were in Florida at the flute festival last weekend I talked with a few
people about this and it was very interesting to hear what people felt about how
they played. One lady from Holland was playing some very amazing music and using
a mode 4 fingering. She told me it was just what she felt like at the time.
Would love to hear what others feel about there playing.

Many blessings,
Dennis

Dear Members,

Above the groups title, on the home page of the group you will see a link next
to your username saying 'edit membership'.

Please use this to control the emails that you get sent from this group.

By selecting 'web only' you will NOT get any emails sent from this group. Posts
and messages will be viewed by visiting the group instead.

Kind regards

NAFMusic Mod

Dear Members,

Please do continue to discuss anything to do with the Native American Flute even
in a chit chatty sense.

Just to clarify, if we are talking about playing with heart and soul please do
keep to that thread.

If you want to discuss making a flute with your heart and soul, please start a
new thread.

Its just to stop emails and topics getting confusing. If someone has posted a
thread requesting help for example, it is no good if the topic strays from the
original question for anyone.

Nobody is stopping any kind of NA Flute talk. The rules are only to keep the
group clear, simple and and easy to understand for everybody who uses it.

Remember, all members get a copy of every post that is sent through the group,
so it can be a little disconcerting for members to get zillions of post that
don't really pertain to any sort of topic or discussion.

Kind regards

NAFMusic MOD x

--- In NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com, "sprucelake7" <northtothecabin@...> wrote:
>
> Bridie said in her message as she joined this group,
>
> "I also love playing with my soul and heart when I play NAF.
>
> Thank you, Bridie.
>
> I find that intent, which I believe many of us share, at odds with this
reaction that was given  after a discussion that appeared in preceding messages.
They may  seem off topic to the technicalities of putting air through a tube
made of wood and making a sound pleasing to human ears, but I think have
everything to do with what Bridie is saying about soul and heart when playing
NAF. I realize for some searching for imformation, "chit-chat" can be
distracting, but for those searching for ways to put more "soul and heart" into
their playing, these messages could open the door a little more to a land we
hope to walk into and not just read about. The Hopi have everything to do with
what we are doing.
>
> Spruce
>
> --- In NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com, NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > With the best of intent, I remind everyone of the rules....
> >
> > -Please Discuss Anything Native American Flute Related.
> >
> > -Respect Our Members.
> >
> > -No Advertising or Self-Promotion.
> > (You can add links in the 'Links' section)
> >
> > -Keep To The Original Topic.
> > If you need to go off topic, please start a new thread or send a private
/email
> > message instead.
> >
> > -Please Share Experiences, Thoughts and Idea's.
> > As opposed to personal opinions.
> >
> >
> > Kindest regards
> >
> > NAFMusic Moderator
> >
>

Hello!

Check the bottom of any email that comes from this group, for a link that says
'unsubscribe'. If you click this then you will be removed from the mailing list.

Also, above the groups titile on the home page of the group you will see a link
next to your username saying 'edit membership'.. Use this to control the emails
that you get sent from this group. By selecting 'web only' you will NOT get any
emails sent from this group. Post and messages can instead be viewed by visiting
the group.

I am happy to un-subscribe members by removing them from the group.

Thanks

NAFMusic MOD

Bridie said in her message as she joined this group,

"I also love playing with my soul and heart when I play NAF.

Thank you, Bridie.

I find that intent, which I believe many of us share, at odds with this reaction
that was given  after a discussion that appeared in preceding messages.  They
may  seem off topic to the technicalities of putting air through a tube made of
wood and making a sound pleasing to human ears, but I think have everything to
do with what Bridie is saying about soul and heart when playing NAF. I realize
for some searching for imformation, "chit-chat" can be distracting, but for
those searching for ways to put more "soul and heart" into their playing, these
messages could open the door a little more to a land we hope to walk into and
not just read about. The Hopi have everything to do with what we are doing.

Spruce

--- In NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com, NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> With the best of intent, I remind everyone of the rules....
>
> -Please Discuss Anything Native American Flute Related.
>
> -Respect Our Members.
>
> -No Advertising or Self-Promotion.
> (You can add links in the 'Links' section)
>
> -Keep To The Original Topic.
> If you need to go off topic, please start a new thread or send a private
/email
> message instead.
>
> -Please Share Experiences, Thoughts and Idea's.
> As opposed to personal opinions.
>
>
> Kindest regards
>
> NAFMusic Moderator
>

Hello Kathy...Welcome!

I too have a couple of High Spirits flutes....the Condor Bass in Low D and the
Sparrow Hawk in high A.  I use the Low D in combination with my Harp when I play
for Patients at the Hospital and the High A works well for children's songs I
find.

It is hard to stop at just one...or two...or three!

Deborah in MN
~Frosty Flute~




--- In NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com, "barkladyaz" <barkladyaz@...> wrote:
>
> Newbie here, just wanted to say hello to the group. I'm really new at the NAF
been playing or I should say practicing for five months.
>
> I have fallen in love this the NAF's wonderful voices. My dog K.T actually
doesn't run away now when I play--she stays right beside me. So I hope that is a
good sign that I'm improving.
>
> Today, I bought my second NA flute a High Spirits Golden Eagle F#.  My first
NA flute was also a High Spirits Sparrow Hawk A# both have such sweet voices.
Well, that is enough from me for now.
>
> Thank you, for accepting me into the NAFMusic Group,
> Kathy aka barkladyaz (I'm a woodcarver and love to carve Cottonwood Bark)
>

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

Newbie here, just wanted to say hello to the group. I'm really new at the NAF
been playing or I should say practicing for five months.

I have fallen in love this the NAF's wonderful voices. My dog K.T actually
doesn't run away now when I play--she stays right beside me. So I hope that is a
good sign that I'm improving.

Today, I bought my second NA flute a High Spirits Golden Eagle F#.  My first NA
flute was also a High Spirits Sparrow Hawk A# both have such sweet voices. Well,
that is enough from me for now.

Thank you, for accepting me into the NAFMusic Group,
Kathy aka barkladyaz (I'm a woodcarver and love to carve Cottonwood Bark)

> Please  leave the choice to the members
> --Scott


Scot - don't worry. This isn't a proposed change. It's just one way to view the
messages, and has been a choice offered all along with Yahoo. But most folks
miss the option on their sign-up and I was just pointing it out as a way to
relieve e-mail overload.

Hugs,
Ann

I vote "no" to this suggestion.  Currently there is individual choice how to read the NAFMusic group.  My email reader is MUCH faster than a web interface would ever be for reading my mail, for example.  Please leave the choice to the members to make themselves how they want to access the group's postings.

--Scott

> and have mostly left the group's messages un-read, as a result.
> Cynthia J. Bauer

I belong to, am very active in several Yahoo groups. I even moderate one. Yet I NEVER get group-related e-mails. I never see my in-box cluttered with endless chit chat, topics I'm not the least bit interested in, e-mails from groups I'm not so interested in any more but don't want to drop. I also have never accidentally deleted something I wanted to respond to.

This? might just be the best kept secret in Yahoo! You could eliminate all group related e-mails if you change your Group Membership "Message Delivery"  to:
"WEB ONLY: Don't get notified of the latest happenings. Read messages only on the web."

Not only won't you miss a thing, your Group reading and participation will be much easier.

Access your individual  Group Membership page (directions below) and take a look at "Step 2" where you make the selection for "Message Delivery".  The first two options/buttons are obvious - "Individual E-mails" or "Daily Digest" - they might as well label these  "Pain in the Butt!" and "Slightly Less of a Pain in the Butt".  

Off to the right are two little sections/buttons. One is for "special messages" and below that is:
"WEB ONLY: Don't get notified of the latest happenings. Read messages only on the web."

All of my group memberships are "Web Only".  In other words, instead of being deluged with individual  e-mails, I go into Yahoo "My Groups" for a group by group  overview of all the activity.  If there is activity, new messages or new files, I can go to the group home page to see and respond.

On my "desktop" I have an icon (you could do "Favorites" as well) that leads to this Yahoo page:
My Groups = 

http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups

There I see a list of  all of  "My Groups".  I click on  "NAFMusic" and get taken to this page:
NAFMusic =

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/NAFMusic/?yguid=150655628

the Home Page of this group, where I can read and respond to anything that's been posted.  The "Reply" frame also offers the option to respond to the group, the individual, or the moderator.

This way, I can check into a group several times a day if there's a hot topic, or ignore it for a few days and catch up at my leisure without missing a thing! This home page also provides an instant archive, going back to the beginning of the group, along with "ladders" on each thread/topic that list every e-mail on that topic title.

To access your group membership page, go to the "My Groups" page above, and select the group.  At the top of the group home page there will be a bar that has the group title. Just above that you should see your name and e-mail. At the end of that line is the option to "edit membership". 

Do this with all your groups, and you'll never have another group e-mail clutter up your in-box, yet you'll be able to play-along with everyone in a much neater, simpler way.

Hope this helps!

Hugs,
Ann

With the best of intent, I remind everyone of the rules....

-Please Discuss Anything Native American Flute Related.

-Respect Our Members.

-No Advertising or Self-Promotion.
(You can add links in the 'Links' section)

-Keep To The Original Topic.
If you need to go off topic, please start a new thread or send a private /email
message instead.

-Please Share Experiences, Thoughts and Idea's.
As opposed to personal opinions.


Kindest regards

NAFMusic Moderator

You don't have to be of Native blood, you can posess Native spirit though. I
think they would be pleased :D

--- In NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com, "sprucelake7" <northtothecabin@...> wrote:
>
> There is a lot of wisdom in these words from CcRider that are worth anyone's
consideration. Life really gets more comfortable when you don't categorize
yourself or other people.
>
>            Spruce
>
> --- In NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com, "steven caldwell" <ccrider54@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Michele
> > I have never considered myself as going native, Being native American is a
birthright and a proud heritage, Since I do not have Native American blood I
would never consider myself or try to be a native. that said I do have many
Native American friends that are more like family to me then what we would
normally consider friends. I choose to accept many native beliefs and ways that
these friends have taught me not trying to be native but because I appreciate
the wisdom in them and its a path that feels right for me personally. I have not
experienced the history of persecution that most Native American people in our
country have so I know I will never fully understand what it is to be Native, I
have however found great personal peace on the path I've chosen to follow. The
one lesson I've learned in my many years is never try to be anyone but yourself,
:)
> > CcRider
> >
>

From: sharon sukeforth

 

  Does anyone know where one can get free lessons on flute making? I would love to learn how but I don't have a clue how to start. Thanks,Sharon

----- Original Message -----

Sharon,
 
Start with Ki-e-ta Flute Making Manual at CherryCows.com. It is a very straight
forward fully documented manual. And , you get Keith's help by email or phone or
on paltalk. There are a lot of other good manuals out there, and I have most of
them, but start with Ki-e-ta's. A lot of information is pressented in words and
photographs of flutes being made starting with a blank.

You might want to try basic-naf-making@yahoogroups.com for more infromation..

Depending upon where you live, there may be a flute maker close to you. Most are
willing to talk and advise.

Charles


--- On Fri, 11/13/09, sharon sukeforth <lady2041@...> wrote:

Does anyone know where one can get free lessons on flute making? I would love to
learn how but I don't have a clue how to start. Thanks,Sharon

----- Original Message -----

From: Harold Smith

To: NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:12 PM

Subject: Re: [NAFMusic] Flute exchange

 

Hi Bill-  thanks for this exchange program. I am just starting with natural s carolina estuary reed tubes and will be ready more towards summer 2010. I'll probably forget something like drilling the finger holes! Easy to improve on that flute!  Harold SMith --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Bill Rinker <flute_maker_98002@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Bill Rinker <flute_maker_98002@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [NAFMusic] Flute exchange To: NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:06 AM   I'm aware that this forum is for items related for music of the NAF.  I believe that there may be flutemakers in here as well.  The time has come for our next quarterly NAF exchange.  This has been an ongoing program for the last four years or so.  It is open to all flute makers no matter how accomplished.   The only rules are: You must exchange your own work. The quality should be of the best you are currently capaple of producing. You must ship your flute by Dec 15th, 2009. Each participant pays shipping from their location to that of their exchange partner.   We realize that not everyone produces great playing and looking flutes.  The exchange is designed to get people sharing.  Not only flutes but ideas.  We learn to teach and be taught.   By exchanging with the person you sent to, you get the opprotunity to see if they do something differently than you do.  Sometimes it may be an improvement you can make.  Other times, it can be someting you can give advise on to make the other persons flute better.    Even if you get a flute that doesn't play or look great, you may be able to help improve that makers skills.  After all, they have 3 months until the next exchange.    Tactfully, give them some pointers and help them to improve their next flute.  If you get a flute better than the one you sent, Great!!!!!!! !!!  Look at it and learn what makes it better than yours.  Ask questions and see if you can incorporate  some changes on subsequent endeavours.  If you are relitively new and get a flute about the same quality as yours, learn from it by noticing the differences between the two flutes.  You may have an idea why their flute isn't working.  If so, then you have learned and the exchange was a success.   If you are looking to exchange ideas, meet new people one on one, develop friendships, then the exchange is for you.  If you are looking to build an awsome flute collection, then this may not be your cup of tea.  A nice flute in time for X-mas would be a bonus.  We have many experienced makers that enjoy the flute exchanges.  Awsome flutes are exchanged on a regular basis.  Entry level flutes are exchanged on a regular basis as well.   The way the pairings are done is that I pair the names as they come in.  I insert my name in the first slot that I see a duplicate that I can remember from previous exchanges.  It can happen that there may be a duplicate further down the line.  It should not be a problem since if it involved a novice maker, they should have made some changes along the way.  If not, that is the time you should let me know so that I can try getting some insight to why the flutes were the same.  If they made changes then, the exchange is working since they are attempting to improve.   If you are interested in joining the exchange, please contact me directly and I'll be happy to add you to our happy family.   Bill in WA     William Moses Rinker (flutemaker and instructor) 206-261-6106 cell http://www.WMFlutes .com "Where the flute plays you"

There is a lot of wisdom in these words from CcRider that are worth anyone's
consideration. Life really gets more comfortable when you don't categorize
yourself or other people.

            Spruce

--- In NAFMusic@yahoogroups.com, "steven caldwell" <ccrider54@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Michele
> I have never considered myself as going native, Being native American is a
birthright and a proud heritage, Since I do not have Native American blood I
would never consider myself or try to be a native. that said I do have many
Native American friends that are more like family to me then what we would
normally consider friends. I choose to accept many native beliefs and ways that
these friends have taught me not trying to be native but because I appreciate
the wisdom in them and its a path that feels right for me personally. I have not
experienced the history of persecution that most Native American people in our
country have so I know I will never fully understand what it is to be Native, I
have however found great personal peace on the path I've chosen to follow. The
one lesson I've learned in my many years is never try to be anyone but yourself,
:)
> CcRider
>

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I lost my insert for my CD by Autumns Child - Four Winds "The Collection"

If anyoen has this, can you append the key of the flute used for each song. 
Thanks!


Moonlight On Chautaqua
Winged Messenger
The Distance Between
Birdsong Rising
  River Path
Yellow Field
Child's Play
Row Of White Trees
Reflective Pool
Solace
Mist Of Dreams
The Journey
Ghost Hawk Dancing
Desert Vision
Raven's Dance