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#3971 From: Paolo Russo <serpentium@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:16 am
Subject: Re: Re: altissimo fingering
serpentium20...
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Your link says:

Document Not Found


2010/7/2 Jason Alder <alderjas@...>
 

sorry, I forgot to change the subject from digest for that last one... this is just for clarity in the archives...

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Jason Alder <alderjas@...> wrote:
I was working on a 6+ octave quarter-tone fingering chart for bass clarinet last year. I've just uploaded it to the files section on yahoogroups. Here's the link....

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ACwtTIT0LccuNcYsHBfywBoaMoudqZdXFZuhrIooLIox5tYcZRmo-HagXkwuGMK5UT4Bd5TXGLRXcsPrRWU42rvLAVxhy7c/BC%20quarter%20tone%20full%20fingering%20chart.pdf

~Jason



On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, <NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
2a.

altissimo fingering

Posted by: "serpentium2000@..." serpentium@...   serpentium2000@...

Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:00 am (PDT)



Hi everyone,
i started recently to practise on my bass clarinet (few months),
and the hardest part is to find how to make altissimo notes!
I read that the trick is using the key we use to make the 'g sharp'(sol#).

Any of you have a fingering chart to play from d(re) over the fifth ledger above the treble staff to above.

Why so hard to find sucha document on internet? My teacher doesnt seem watn to share with me that knowledge

Greetings!
paolo.





#3972 From: "stockill@..." <stockill@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:46 am
Subject: RE: Digest Number 1124
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Subject: Re: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Digest Number 1124



I was working on a 6+ octave quarter-tone fingering chart for bass clarinet
last year. I've just uploaded it to the files section on yahoogroups. Here's
the link....

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ACwtTIT0LccuNcYsHBfywBoaMoudqZdXFZuhrIooLIox5tYcZRm\
o-HagXkwuGMK5UT4Bd5TXGLRXcsPrRWU42rvLAVxhy7c/BC%20quarter%20tone%20full%20finger\
ing%20chart.pdf

~Jason


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, <NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com>wrote:

>  2a.   altissimo fingering
>
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> Hi everyone,
> i started recently to practise on my bass clarinet (few months),
> and the hardest part is to find how to make altissimo notes!
> I read that the trick is using the key we use to make the 'g sharp'(sol#).
>
> Any of you have a fingering chart to play from d(re) over the fifth ledger
> above the treble staff to above.
>
> Why so hard to find sucha document on internet? My teacher doesnt seem watn
> to share with me that knowledge
>
> Greetings!
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#3973 From: "nerokerr2" <alderjas@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 10:06 am
Subject: Re: altissimo fingering
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ok, that link might have been based on login info... if you go to
yahoogroups.com and login, then go to newbassclarinetgroup and under the files
section you'll find it.

i've also just put it on my website for ease...
http://www.jasonalder.com/fingeringchart/BC%20quarter%20tone%20full%20fingering%\
20chart.pdf

~J

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, Paolo Russo <serpentium@...> wrote:
>
> Your link says:
> Document Not Found
> 2010/7/2 Jason Alder <alderjas@...>
>
> >
> >
> > sorry, I forgot to change the subject from digest for that last one... this
> > is just for clarity in the archives...
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Jason Alder <alderjas@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I was working on a 6+ octave quarter-tone fingering chart for bass
> >> clarinet last year. I've just uploaded it to the files section on
> >> yahoogroups. Here's the link....
> >>
> >>
> >>
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ACwtTIT0LccuNcYsHBfywBoaMoudqZdXFZuhrIooLIox5tYcZRm\
o-HagXkwuGMK5UT4Bd5TXGLRXcsPrRWU42rvLAVxhy7c/BC%20quarter%20tone%20full%20finger\
ing%20chart.pdf
> >>
> >> ~Jason
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM,
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> >>
> >>>  2a.   altissimo fingering
> >>>
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> >>> 12:00 am (PDT)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>> i started recently to practise on my bass clarinet (few months),
> >>> and the hardest part is to find how to make altissimo notes!
> >>> I read that the trick is using the key we use to make the 'g
> >>> sharp'(sol#).
> >>>
> >>> Any of you have a fingering chart to play from d(re) over the fifth
> >>> ledger above the treble staff to above.
> >>>
> >>> Why so hard to find sucha document on internet? My teacher doesnt seem
> >>> watn to share with me that knowledge
> >>>
> >>> Greetings!
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#3974 From: Gary Lewis <flugel_bass@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 11:26 am
Subject: Re: Re: altissimo fingering
flugel_bass
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Hi Jason,
 
I'm very interested in your fingering chart, but the link appears to be broken.
 
Thank you,
Gary

--- On Thu, 7/1/10, Jason Alder <alderjas@...> wrote:

From: Jason Alder <alderjas@...>
Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Re: altissimo fingering
To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 8:43 PM

 
sorry, I forgot to change the subject from digest for that last one... this is just for clarity in the archives...

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Jason Alder <alderjas@msu. edu> wrote:
I was working on a 6+ octave quarter-tone fingering chart for bass clarinet last year. I've just uploaded it to the files section on yahoogroups. Here's the link....

http://f1.grp. yahoofs.com/ v1/ACwtTIT0LccuN cYsHBfywBoaMoudq ZdXFZuhrIooLIox5 tYcZRmo-HagXkwuG MK5UT4Bd5TXGLRXc sPrRWU42rvLAVxhy 7c/BC%20quarter% 20tone%20full% 20fingering% 20chart.pdf

~Jason



On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, <NewBassClarinetGrou p@yahoogroups. com> wrote:
2a.

altissimo fingering

Posted by: "serpentium2000@ ymail.com" serpentium@gmail. com   serpentium2000@ ymail.com

Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:00 am (PDT)



Hi everyone,
i started recently to practise on my bass clarinet (few months),
and the hardest part is to find how to make altissimo notes!
I read that the trick is using the key we use to make the 'g sharp'(sol#).

Any of you have a fingering chart to play from d(re) over the fifth ledger above the treble staff to above.

Why so hard to find sucha document on internet? My teacher doesnt seem watn to share with me that knowledge

Greetings!
paolo.




#3975 From: Doctroid <doctroid@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:47 pm
Subject: Re: Re: altissimo fingering
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On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Gary Lewis <flugel_bass@...> wrote:
>
>  
>
> Hi Jason,
>  
> I'm very interested in your fingering chart, but the link appears to be broken.

As Jason says it's in the group's files area. Go to the files with
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/NewBassClarinetGroup/files/
and there's a link from there.

- Rich Holmes


#3976 From: john crone <johncrone@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Fair price for an alto?
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I think the pricing is a  way out of line, alto's do not seem to get the value of basses and you can get a bass series #9 for less than that, there's one on ebay right now at 1/2 that price. 
I have have found that waiting will work just fine, something else will come along. 
John
On 1-Jul-10, at 8:56 PM, Lori Archer Sutherland wrote:

Yeah, my gut feeling was that it's too high in today's economy.  I'm going to pass, especially since it won't be a high-use instrument for me.  I was hoping she'd have a more reasonable price, given that I'd already purchased two large instruments from her.  Ah well.  I'll probably still get the contra mpcs and sheet music - I just need to figure out what to offer her for that.

Lori

suchan38 wrote:

 


$1700? Series 9 Low E flat basses can be had for about that much in today's weak market. That sounds more like an appraisal for insurance purposes rather than market value. 

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, Lori Archer Sutherland <bclplyr@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the comments, everyone. The seller said she had an appraised 
> value of $2000 and would sell it for $1700 (incl. 3 contra mpcs and some 
> sheet music). The contra mpcs are in there because about a month ago I 
> bought two contras from her (I left three there!). Her father was an 
> active musician in the Chicago area and he had passed away. She has 
> quite a few instruments to sell, including a lovely rosewood Selmer EEb 
> contra. She had Rick Sayre pin a crack, but it still needs some work. 
> But it played nicely for me when I tried it.
> 
> Lori
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 6/21/10, Lori Archer Sutherland /<bclplyr@...>/* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Lori Archer Sutherland <bclplyr@...>
> > Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Fair price for an alto?
> > To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 2:34 PM
> >
> > 
> > Hi gang -
> >
> > I'm curious as to what the "going rate" would be for a Selmer
> > series 9
> > depose alto clarinet. I got a chance to play it briefly, and it seems
> > like a nice instrument. It would need at least a going-over by a
> > tech,
> > with possibly some new pads.
> >
> > While it could be nice to have, it's definitely a limited-use
> > instrument
> > for me. I don't know that I want to pay what the seller's asking,
> > especially since it wouldn't get a lot of use. Searching the net for
> > info hasn't been very fruitful - there have been some Selmer depose
> > altos on ebay, but no series 9s.
> >
> > Any info would be appreciated!
> >
> > Thanks -
> > Lori
> >
> >
> > __._,_.
>





#3977 From: "Bobby M" <bmcclel@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:14 pm
Subject: Re: Fair price for an alto? sort of commercial
matterofstyle
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Years ago I wanted an alto for the "just in case" it was needed.  That and I
wanted one to compiment having a bass.  I scored a 60's rubber 1 pices body conn
made in france.

I just recently was given a Leblanc Paris 5 piece from a dear friend when he
purchased aband new Buffet.

So i have a nice shape conn alto that is not getting used!
Email me offlist Lori and I can send you pictures of it.  I will let it go for
what I paid for it probably 8 years ago.  Just I do not have a mouthpice for it
since I am using it on the leblanc.



Bobby
matterofstyle@...

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, john crone <johncrone@...> wrote:
>
> I think the pricing is a  way out of line, alto's do not seem to get
> the value of basses and you can get a bass series #9 for less than
> that, there's one on ebay right now at 1/2 that price.
> I have have found that waiting will work just fine, something else
> will come along.
> John
> On 1-Jul-10, at 8:56 PM, Lori Archer Sutherland wrote:
>
> > Yeah, my gut feeling was that it's too high in today's economy.  I'm
> > going to pass, especially since it won't be a high-use instrument
> > for me.  I was hoping she'd have a more reasonable price, given that
> > I'd already purchased two large instruments from her.  Ah well.
> > I'll probably still get the contra mpcs and sheet music - I just
> > need to figure out what to offer her for that.
> >
> > Lori
> >
> > suchan38 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> $1700? Series 9 Low E flat basses can be had for about that much in
> >> today's weak market. That sounds more like an appraisal for
> >> insurance purposes rather than market value.
> >>
> >> --- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, Lori Archer Sutherland
> >> <bclplyr@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the comments, everyone. The seller said she had an
> >> appraised
> >> > value of $2000 and would sell it for $1700 (incl. 3 contra mpcs
> >> and some
> >> > sheet music). The contra mpcs are in there because about a month
> >> ago I
> >> > bought two contras from her (I left three there!). Her father was
> >> an
> >> > active musician in the Chicago area and he had passed away. She has
> >> > quite a few instruments to sell, including a lovely rosewood
> >> Selmer EEb
> >> > contra. She had Rick Sayre pin a crack, but it still needs some
> >> work.
> >> > But it played nicely for me when I tried it.
> >> >
> >> > Lori
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On *Mon, 6/21/10, Lori Archer Sutherland /<bclplyr@>/*
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > From: Lori Archer Sutherland <bclplyr@>
> >> > > Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Fair price for an alto?
> >> > > To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 2:34 PM
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi gang -
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm curious as to what the "going rate" would be for a Selmer
> >> > > series 9
> >> > > depose alto clarinet. I got a chance to play it briefly, and it
> >> seems
> >> > > like a nice instrument. It would need at least a going-over by a
> >> > > tech,
> >> > > with possibly some new pads.
> >> > >
> >> > > While it could be nice to have, it's definitely a limited-use
> >> > > instrument
> >> > > for me. I don't know that I want to pay what the seller's asking,
> >> > > especially since it wouldn't get a lot of use. Searching the
> >> net for
> >> > > info hasn't been very fruitful - there have been some Selmer
> >> depose
> >> > > altos on ebay, but no series 9s.
> >> > >
> >> > > Any info would be appreciated!
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks -
> >> > > Lori
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > __._,_.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

#3978 From: Gary Lewis <flugel_bass@...>
Date: Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: altissimo fingering
flugel_bass
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Got it!!  Thanks for your help.
 
-Gary

--- On Fri, 7/2/10, Doctroid <doctroid@...> wrote:

From: Doctroid <doctroid@...>
Subject: Re: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Re: altissimo fingering
To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, July 2, 2010, 9:47 AM

 
On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Gary Lewis <flugel_bass@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
> Hi Jason,
>  
> I'm very interested in your fingering chart, but the link appears to be broken.

As Jason says it's in the group's files area. Go to the files with
http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ NewBassClarinetG roup/files/
and there's a link from there.

- Rich Holmes


#3979 From: "suchan38" <suchan38@...>
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:28 pm
Subject: Mouthpiece/Reed/Lig Combos
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I'd like to hear what mouthpiece/reed/ligature combinations we're using.
Personally, I've got a Fobes AP mouthpiece, usually use a Vandoren Blue Box 3 or
filed-down 3 1/2, or a Gonzalez 3. I've got one of those Vandoren ligatures with
the interchangeable plates, but I have figured out how to change the plates yet,
so I'm running whatever comes stock. I started out as a sax player and don't
like a lot of back pressure when I play, hence the open mthpce. Tons of
projection on my Selmer 33, requires lots of air. Good for orchestra (which is
what I'm doing most right now), maybe less so for chamber playing.

#3980 From: Ledonna McGowan <ledwallace@...>
Date: Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:51 pm
Subject: Re: Mouthpiece/Reed/Lig Combos
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Cool Question.

I use Walter's CXZ_LB Mouthpiece (Lawrie Bloom) with a BG L9 Ligature and Gonzalez 3 reeds.  I have a LeBlanc Low Eb that is about 60 years old but it had a nice big sound with this set up. 

Another question for everyone... What is your back-up mouthpiece? I have a CX_BB_PERS also from Walter. 

Ledonna

--- On Sun, 7/18/10, suchan38 <suchan38@...> wrote:

From: suchan38 <suchan38@...>
Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Mouthpiece/Reed/Lig Combos
To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 12:28 PM

 

I'd like to hear what mouthpiece/reed/ligature combinations we're using. Personally, I've got a Fobes AP mouthpiece, usually use a Vandoren Blue Box 3 or filed-down 3 1/2, or a Gonzalez 3. I've got one of those Vandoren ligatures with the interchangeable plates, but I have figured out how to change the plates yet, so I'm running whatever comes stock. I started out as a sax player and don't like a lot of back pressure when I play, hence the open mthpce. Tons of projection on my Selmer 33, requires lots of air. Good for orchestra (which is what I'm doing most right now), maybe less so for chamber playing.


#3981 From: Juan Gómez <juan_g_fedz@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:01 am
Subject: Re: Mouthpiece/Reed/Lig Combos
juan_g_fedz
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Pomarico #3 mouthpiece, Rigotti's 2.5F reeds and Vandoren's Optimum ligature with four point plate. I play a Yamaha low C bass clarinet in a concert band (Getafe, in Spain) and also plays chamber music with contrabass clarinete and sometimes marimba...
Nice summer for you all.

Vale.

Juan.


De: suchan38 <suchan38@...>
Para: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: dom,18 julio, 2010 19:28
Asunto: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Mouthpiece/Reed/Lig Combos

 

I'd like to hear what mouthpiece/reed/ligature combinations we're using. Personally, I've got a Fobes AP mouthpiece, usually use a Vandoren Blue Box 3 or filed-down 3 1/2, or a Gonzalez 3. I've got one of those Vandoren ligatures with the interchangeable plates, but I have figured out how to change the plates yet, so I'm running whatever comes stock. I started out as a sax player and don't like a lot of back pressure when I play, hence the open mthpce. Tons of projection on my Selmer 33, requires lots of air. Good for orchestra (which is what I'm doing most right now), maybe less so for chamber playing.



#3982 From: "John W Di Profio, Sr." <tekdox@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:25 am
Subject: set up
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I use a Fobes San Fran with a Winslow ligature and 3¼ Gonzalves reeds.
My backup is a Garrett reworked Selmer C*...all of this is on my
venerable LeBlanc Eb bass clarinet.

johnd

#3983 From: Douglas Ramsdell <dugsdale@...>
Date: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:07 pm
Subject: Re:Mouthpiece/Reed/Lig Combos
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Hi folks.
I'm playing a Selmer C85-115 with the Vandoren Optimum ligature (with
whichever plate it came with) on an old Series 9 Selmer low-Eb. It's
a good package and seems to project well. As for backups--whatever's
in the drawer, I guess, probably Vandoren B40, which would carry me
until the replacement Fobes and/or Grabner arrived in the mail.
Reeds--I'll try anything once, but usually end up on Gonzalez 3-1/2
or (if I'm in shape) 4. I do mostly orchestral and chamber playing,
and the current setup is great for that.

Nobody asked, but I finally ditched the ancient, perpetually smelly
Selmer case for a new BAM, and I LOVE it. It's so light and easy to
handle, you can't tell there's an instrument in it.

#3984 From: "bradleyhardin@..." <bradleyhardin@...>
Date: Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:21 pm
Subject: Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
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What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds?  I was surprised to
see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl.  I wanted to give them a try since seeing all
the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.

I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation.  Do you
think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?

Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:

Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing

Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver,
sometimes it doesn't matter.

(differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the
mouthpiece selected)

Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure.  Also had to replace
the thin cork to work on my 1193

BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!

Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!

I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but these
two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above
mouthpieces.  I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web
page, and have worked toward that end.

#3985 From: "Lawrence Bocaner" <basscl@...>
Date: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
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I use Grand Concert and Gonzalez reeds interchangeably with my Garrett/Zinner mouthpiece -- tip opening about 170. I find that the GC 3-1/2 reeds are about the same resistance as the Gonzo 3-3/4's. Used to use Vandorens, but now I like the greater consistency of the other brands.
 
Last time I ordered Gonzalez reeds it was from a Florida mail order venue that I will no longer do business with. Both Muncywinds and Fred Weiner stock them; I have no problem with dealing with either of those.
 
I'm not a fan of the leather ligatures; students who I have "converted" back to good old Bonade ligatures have generally appreciated the improved response and tonal centering the metal ligatures have given them.
 
Larry Bocaner
National Symphony Orchestra Washington (retired)
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Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:21 PM
Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up

 

What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds? I was surprised to see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl. I wanted to give them a try since seeing all the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.

I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation. Do you think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?

Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:

Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing

Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver, sometimes it doesn't matter.

(differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the mouthpiece selected)

Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure. Also had to replace the thin cork to work on my 1193

BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!

Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!

I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but these two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above mouthpieces. I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web page, and have worked toward that end.


#3986 From: "ph25364879" <bass9396@...>
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
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I use Gonzalez 2.75 reeds now.  Made the change when I got some samples and they
are by far the best reeds I've ever used--and I never thought I'd swear off
Daniel's Reeds, but I have.

I only use metal ligatures just because they seem to respond better.  I've never
even owned a Rovner until I was in my 30's and that was just out of curiosity.

Old Harrisons are my favorite, but I am really enjoying the Fortissimo ligature
too.  Not too hard to put on and it responds quite well.  Let's me go up and
down the horn with ease--as do the Gonzalez reeds.  Plus, I was lucky enough to
win their World Cup contest so I have 20 boxes of reeds coming.  I'll report in
on how they do :)

And all of that on a Selmer D--can't get much better for me :)

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence Bocaner" <basscl@...>
wrote:
>
> I use Grand Concert and Gonzalez reeds interchangeably with my Garrett/Zinner
mouthpiece -- tip opening about 170. I find that the GC 3-1/2 reeds are about
the same resistance as the Gonzo 3-3/4's. Used to use Vandorens, but now I like
the greater consistency of the other brands.
>
> Last time I ordered Gonzalez reeds it was from a Florida mail order venue that
I will no longer do business with. Both Muncywinds and Fred Weiner stock them; I
have no problem with dealing with either of those.
>
> I'm not a fan of the leather ligatures; students who I have "converted" back
to good old Bonade ligatures have generally appreciated the improved response
and tonal centering the metal ligatures have given them.
>
> Larry Bocaner
> National Symphony Orchestra Washington (retired)
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: bradleyhardin@...
>   To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:21 PM
>   Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
>
>
>
>   What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds? I was surprised to
see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl. I wanted to give them a try since seeing all
the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.
>
>   I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation. Do you
think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?
>
>   Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:
>
>   Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing
>
>   Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver,
sometimes it doesn't matter.
>
>   (differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the
mouthpiece selected)
>
>   Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure. Also had to
replace the thin cork to work on my 1193
>
>   BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!
>
>   Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!
>
>   I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but
these two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above
mouthpieces. I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web
page, and have worked toward that end.
>

#3987 From: Diana Jonen <djonen@...>
Date: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:47 pm
Subject: Re: Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
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I have both the metal Bonade ligature and the Vandoren leather
ligature, and every time I compare them I choose the leather, with the
metal insert. The other two inserts take all the edge off the sound, so
I just put those away permanently. This is true for both my soprano
clarinets and my bass, and I use Grabner mouthpieces for both.  Maybe a
player who wants and edgier sound than I like would choose the Bonade
ligature.

Diana

#3988 From: "womrep" <womrep@...>
Date: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
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I play a Bay MO+_M with Grand Concert 3.5 and a Francois Louis Ultimate
Ligature.  I previously used V16 tenor reeds which I preferred over Vandoren
bass reeds.  The shop I work for has some Gonzalez Bb and bass reeds they're
trying to get rid of, the boss says "cheap," so I brought a few boxes home to
try over the weekend.  I haven't been playing a lot of bass lately, but I've
worked on a few dozen school basses over the last few weeks and working on/doing
extended test-playing on some nice French basses has gotten me feeling like
playing some bass.  They run a little hard compared to Grand Concert or
Vandoren, but they're nice reeds, I'll probably buy up whatever is kicking
around the shop so I don't need to worry about bass reeds for a long time.

As for finding Gonzalez reeds, Conn-Selmer imports them, so any store that sells
Conn-Selmer products (Selmer, Leblanc, Conn, Holton, Bach, Armstrong, etc...)
can order Gonzalez reeds for you.  You're most likely to have success with
places that carry a lot of Selmer Paris and Bach mouthpieces as that means they
probably order accessories from them somewhat regularly.  Most local stores are
hesitant to carry more "esoteric" reeds with low demand, but if you're a regular
or if you reach for your wallet instead of getting indignant if they ask for a
deposit, they'll probably order you whatever you want.


Pete


--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence Bocaner" <basscl@...>
wrote:
>
> I use Grand Concert and Gonzalez reeds interchangeably with my Garrett/Zinner
mouthpiece -- tip opening about 170. I find that the GC 3-1/2 reeds are about
the same resistance as the Gonzo 3-3/4's. Used to use Vandorens, but now I like
the greater consistency of the other brands.
>
> Last time I ordered Gonzalez reeds it was from a Florida mail order venue that
I will no longer do business with. Both Muncywinds and Fred Weiner stock them; I
have no problem with dealing with either of those.
>
> I'm not a fan of the leather ligatures; students who I have "converted" back
to good old Bonade ligatures have generally appreciated the improved response
and tonal centering the metal ligatures have given them.
>
> Larry Bocaner
> National Symphony Orchestra Washington (retired)
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: bradleyhardin@...
>   To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:21 PM
>   Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
>
>
>
>   What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds? I was surprised to
see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl. I wanted to give them a try since seeing all
the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.
>
>   I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation. Do you
think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?
>
>   Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:
>
>   Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing
>
>   Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver,
sometimes it doesn't matter.
>
>   (differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the
mouthpiece selected)
>
>   Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure. Also had to
replace the thin cork to work on my 1193
>
>   BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!
>
>   Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!
>
>   I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but
these two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above
mouthpieces. I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web
page, and have worked toward that end.
>

#3989 From: "piereolivier" <piereolivier@...>
Date: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:52 am
Subject: Re: Mouthpiece/Reed/Lig Combos
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Hi there,
I'm playing a Pomarico n°3 hard rubber mouthpiece with a "universal" Ligaphone
ligature and 3/5 classic Vandoren reeds on a Selmer 23II horn. Unfortunately my
mouthpiece is quite hold and Pomarico stop to made hard rubber mouthpiece from
many years now. I tryed the crystal one but I really don't like the sensation...
I have a Vandoren B40 wich is rather close but you know it's not the same a
litle bit too bright in the low register the Poma is darker and more "matt"
Thus I try to prolong my Poma life but I know that one day I shall have to live
it... :-(

Pierolivier

#3990 From: "earspasm" <mike@...>
Date: Sun Aug 1, 2010 5:26 pm
Subject: Mouthpieces need a home.
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Hey all,

I came into three excellent mouthpieces -- McClune-faced Selmer C*'s I picked
out at ICA that are amazingly accurate copies of my Matson -- that I want to
find good homes for.

If you are interested please contact me off-list.

Thanks!
Mike Lowenstern

#3991 From: Heidi Haney <warhamster52@...>
Date: Wed Aug 4, 2010 7:45 pm
Subject: Remembering Dutch Jazz Musician Willem Breuker
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<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128819529>

I heard this on NPR this afternoon: Jazz critic Kevin Whitehead looks
back at Breuker, who recently at the age of 65.

I'm not familiar with Willem Breuker, but perked my ears when the intro
mentioned bass clarinet as well as saxophone, and the article photo
shows him playing bass clarinet.

-- Heidi

#3992 From: franandaj@...
Date: Sat Aug 7, 2010 6:06 am
Subject: (No subject)
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#3993 From: "andrew.seigel" <andrew.seigel@...>
Date: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:41 am
Subject: Shosty Violin Concerto Treble Part?
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Has anyone taken the time to produce a treble clef bass clarinet part to the
Shostakovich Violin Concerto?  Someone's asked if I can do it on short notice
and while I think I can, it'd be nice to be focused on making the music, not
reading in bass clef...

Let me know ASAP - thanks!

-Andrew Seigel
andrew.seigel@...

#3994 From: Stefano Cardo <stefano.cardo@...>
Date: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:31 am
Subject: Re: Shosty Violin Concerto Treble Part?
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Dear Andrew, I think that the only thing that the part need is to be practised a
lot and played by memory (the most difficult passages of course). I say that for
the particular difficulties of the concert: the role of our instrument and for
the skills that the part needs. There's no time to read the part and play it on
time; a lot of vhanges of rithm and time; solo and section... I mean the bass
clarinet has a great role in Shostakovich, and a part in another clef doesn't
solve any of the problems between the staves...

I've played it several time, and every time it seems like an olimpic game:
difficult and long during the practising but short and without chance of
repetition on concert.
It always needs a great concentration and to be really focused.

That's all.

Stefano

Il giorno 10/ago/2010, alle ore 04:41, "andrew.seigel" <andrew.seigel@...>
ha scritto:

> Has anyone taken the time to produce a treble clef bass clarinet part to the
Shostakovich Violin Concerto?  Someone's asked if I can do it on short notice
and while I think I can, it'd be nice to be focused on making the music, not
reading in bass clef...
>
> Let me know ASAP - thanks!
>
> -Andrew Seigel
> andrew.seigel@...
>
>
>
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#3995 From: "AmyC" <rain28@...>
Date: Thu Sep 2, 2010 8:34 pm
Subject: Der Alte Brummbar
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Does anyone have a good cadenza for the bass clarinet solo part to Der Alte
Brummbar? (The Old Grumbly Bear?) I just purchased the piece, and the cadenza is
non-existent.
I appreciate any help on the matter.

#3996 From: "AmyC" <rain28@...>
Date: Sat Sep 11, 2010 9:18 pm
Subject: mouthpiece affecting intonation?
chambrmusc
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I currently play on a selmer bass clarinet with a c*mouthpiece and a bay
ligature.  Right now, I love Grand Concert Select reeds.

Intonation has always been a problem with my instrument.  I feel like I have to
adjust my embouchure too often while I'm playing.  Open G's need to be lipped
up, and I have to lip down while playing B's and C's going over the break.

Do you think a new mouthpiece would make a noticeable difference?

#3997 From: Walter Grabner <grabnerwg@...>
Date: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:14 pm
Subject: Re: mouthpiece affecting intonation?
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On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:18 PM, AmyC <rain28@...> wrote:
 

I currently play on a selmer bass clarinet with a c*mouthpiece and a bay ligature. Right now, I love Grand Concert Select reeds.

Intonation has always been a problem with my instrument. I feel like I have to adjust my embouchure too often while I'm playing. Open G's need to be lipped up, and I have to lip down while playing B's and C's going over the break.

Do you think a new mouthpiece would make a noticeable difference?


Many bass clarinets suffer from sharp B and C, while having flat E and F a twelfth below. The throat tone G is going to be mostly influenced by how far you have the neck pulled out,

I doubt that a change of mouthpiece will help this situation.

I recommend you see a technician who is experienced in tuning bass clarinets. There are some things that can be done that may help your situation.


Walter Grabner
www.clarinetxpress.com
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#3998 From: "AmyC" <rain28@...>
Date: Sun Sep 12, 2010 5:38 pm
Subject: Re: mouthpiece affecting intonation?
chambrmusc
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Would this experienced technician be you, Mr. Grabner?

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, Walter Grabner <grabnerwg@...>
wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:18 PM, AmyC <rain28@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I currently play on a selmer bass clarinet with a c*mouthpiece and a bay
> > ligature. Right now, I love Grand Concert Select reeds.
> >
> > Intonation has always been a problem with my instrument. I feel like I have
> > to adjust my embouchure too often while I'm playing. Open G's need to be
> > lipped up, and I have to lip down while playing B's and C's going over the
> > break.
> >
> > Do you think a new mouthpiece would make a noticeable difference?
> >
>
> Many bass clarinets suffer from sharp B and C, while having flat E and F a
> twelfth below. The throat tone G is going to be mostly influenced by how far
> you have the neck pulled out,
>
> I doubt that a change of mouthpiece will help this situation.
>
> I recommend you see a technician who is experienced in tuning bass
> clarinets. There are some things that can be done that may help your
> situation.
>
>
> Walter Grabner
> www.clarinetxpress.com
> World Class Clarinet Mouthpieces
> Buffet C;arinets
>
> >
> >
> >
>

#3999 From: "violann44" <violann44@...>
Date: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:36 pm
Subject: Is Eb alto clarinet disappearing from wind ensemble literature?
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After a long hiatus, I had become interested in playing lower clarinets in high
quality

wind ensembles in my area. Thinking the alto clarinet was a good place to start,
I attempted

to arrange for an audition in a well thought of local group and was told that
they don't

use a bass clarinet any more because "nobody writes for it".

I can't believe that this is universally true, so I'm hoping to learn of upper
echelon ensembles

who still use alto clarinet.

  Don't conductors perform pieces like Lincolnshire Posy, Suite of Old American
Dances, or the

  overture to Candide any longer? THese three pieces are sticking in my mind
because I recall

the extremely well written clarinet choir parts in them.

The true timbre of the clarinet family certainly has a big gap without the alto
clarinet, not

to mention transcriptions of Mozart basset horn parts.

I'd certainly like to hear comments about this from other parts of the world
(I'm on the East

  Coast, USA.

#4000 From: Gary Van Cott <gary@...>
Date: Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:46 pm
Subject: Re: Is Eb alto clarinet disappearing from wind ensemble literature?
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It is my experience that if you are playing a representative sample of
concert band music perhaps one-fourth have alto clarinet parts that are
worth playing. You need to be prepared to play bass clarinet or soprano
clarinet on the others.

Some of this depends on the parts and the players in the band. For
example on one or two pieces we played recently the alto clarinet part
was a lot like the tenor sax part. If you have a weak tenor sax player,
they would be worth playing.

Gary
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