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I was working on a 6+ octave quarter-tone fingering chart for bass clarinet
last year. I've just uploaded it to the files section on yahoogroups. Here's
the link....

http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ACwtTIT0LccuNcYsHBfywBoaMoudqZdXFZuhrIooLIox5tYcZRm\
o-HagXkwuGMK5UT4Bd5TXGLRXcsPrRWU42rvLAVxhy7c/BC%20quarter%20tone%20full%20finger\
ing%20chart.pdf

~Jason


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, <NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com>wrote:

>  2a.   altissimo fingering
>
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>
>
> Hi everyone,
> i started recently to practise on my bass clarinet (few months),
> and the hardest part is to find how to make altissimo notes!
> I read that the trick is using the key we use to make the 'g sharp'(sol#).
>
> Any of you have a fingering chart to play from d(re) over the fifth ledger
> above the treble staff to above.
>
> Why so hard to find sucha document on internet? My teacher doesnt seem watn
> to share with me that knowledge
>
> Greetings!
> paolo.
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ok, that link might have been based on login info... if you go to
yahoogroups.com and login, then go to newbassclarinetgroup and under the files
section you'll find it.

i've also just put it on my website for ease...
http://www.jasonalder.com/fingeringchart/BC%20quarter%20tone%20full%20fingering%\
20chart.pdf

~J

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, Paolo Russo <serpentium@...> wrote:
>
> Your link says:
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> 2010/7/2 Jason Alder <alderjas@...>
>
> >
> >
> > sorry, I forgot to change the subject from digest for that last one... this
> > is just for clarity in the archives...
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:38 AM, Jason Alder <alderjas@...> wrote:
> >
> >> I was working on a 6+ octave quarter-tone fingering chart for bass
> >> clarinet last year. I've just uploaded it to the files section on
> >> yahoogroups. Here's the link....
> >>
> >>
> >>
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ACwtTIT0LccuNcYsHBfywBoaMoudqZdXFZuhrIooLIox5tYcZRm\
o-HagXkwuGMK5UT4Bd5TXGLRXcsPrRWU42rvLAVxhy7c/BC%20quarter%20tone%20full%20finger\
ing%20chart.pdf
> >>
> >> ~Jason
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM,
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> >>
> >>>  2a.   altissimo fingering
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> >>>
> >>> Hi everyone,
> >>> i started recently to practise on my bass clarinet (few months),
> >>> and the hardest part is to find how to make altissimo notes!
> >>> I read that the trick is using the key we use to make the 'g
> >>> sharp'(sol#).
> >>>
> >>> Any of you have a fingering chart to play from d(re) over the fifth
> >>> ledger above the treble staff to above.
> >>>
> >>> Why so hard to find sucha document on internet? My teacher doesnt seem
> >>> watn to share with me that knowledge
> >>>
> >>> Greetings!
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Years ago I wanted an alto for the "just in case" it was needed.  That and I
wanted one to compiment having a bass.  I scored a 60's rubber 1 pices body conn
made in france.

I just recently was given a Leblanc Paris 5 piece from a dear friend when he
purchased aband new Buffet.

So i have a nice shape conn alto that is not getting used!
Email me offlist Lori and I can send you pictures of it.  I will let it go for
what I paid for it probably 8 years ago.  Just I do not have a mouthpice for it
since I am using it on the leblanc.



Bobby
matterofstyle@...

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, john crone <johncrone@...> wrote:
>
> I think the pricing is a  way out of line, alto's do not seem to get
> the value of basses and you can get a bass series #9 for less than
> that, there's one on ebay right now at 1/2 that price.
> I have have found that waiting will work just fine, something else
> will come along.
> John
> On 1-Jul-10, at 8:56 PM, Lori Archer Sutherland wrote:
>
> > Yeah, my gut feeling was that it's too high in today's economy.  I'm
> > going to pass, especially since it won't be a high-use instrument
> > for me.  I was hoping she'd have a more reasonable price, given that
> > I'd already purchased two large instruments from her.  Ah well.
> > I'll probably still get the contra mpcs and sheet music - I just
> > need to figure out what to offer her for that.
> >
> > Lori
> >
> > suchan38 wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> $1700? Series 9 Low E flat basses can be had for about that much in
> >> today's weak market. That sounds more like an appraisal for
> >> insurance purposes rather than market value.
> >>
> >> --- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, Lori Archer Sutherland
> >> <bclplyr@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the comments, everyone. The seller said she had an
> >> appraised
> >> > value of $2000 and would sell it for $1700 (incl. 3 contra mpcs
> >> and some
> >> > sheet music). The contra mpcs are in there because about a month
> >> ago I
> >> > bought two contras from her (I left three there!). Her father was
> >> an
> >> > active musician in the Chicago area and he had passed away. She has
> >> > quite a few instruments to sell, including a lovely rosewood
> >> Selmer EEb
> >> > contra. She had Rick Sayre pin a crack, but it still needs some
> >> work.
> >> > But it played nicely for me when I tried it.
> >> >
> >> > Lori
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --- On *Mon, 6/21/10, Lori Archer Sutherland /<bclplyr@>/*
> >> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > From: Lori Archer Sutherland <bclplyr@>
> >> > > Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Fair price for an alto?
> >> > > To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > > Date: Monday, June 21, 2010, 2:34 PM
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi gang -
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm curious as to what the "going rate" would be for a Selmer
> >> > > series 9
> >> > > depose alto clarinet. I got a chance to play it briefly, and it
> >> seems
> >> > > like a nice instrument. It would need at least a going-over by a
> >> > > tech,
> >> > > with possibly some new pads.
> >> > >
> >> > > While it could be nice to have, it's definitely a limited-use
> >> > > instrument
> >> > > for me. I don't know that I want to pay what the seller's asking,
> >> > > especially since it wouldn't get a lot of use. Searching the
> >> net for
> >> > > info hasn't been very fruitful - there have been some Selmer
> >> depose
> >> > > altos on ebay, but no series 9s.
> >> > >
> >> > > Any info would be appreciated!
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks -
> >> > > Lori
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > __._,_.
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

I'd like to hear what mouthpiece/reed/ligature combinations we're using.
Personally, I've got a Fobes AP mouthpiece, usually use a Vandoren Blue Box 3 or
filed-down 3 1/2, or a Gonzalez 3. I've got one of those Vandoren ligatures with
the interchangeable plates, but I have figured out how to change the plates yet,
so I'm running whatever comes stock. I started out as a sax player and don't
like a lot of back pressure when I play, hence the open mthpce. Tons of
projection on my Selmer 33, requires lots of air. Good for orchestra (which is
what I'm doing most right now), maybe less so for chamber playing.

I use a Fobes San Fran with a Winslow ligature and 3¼ Gonzalves reeds.
My backup is a Garrett reworked Selmer C*...all of this is on my
venerable LeBlanc Eb bass clarinet.

johnd

Hi folks.
I'm playing a Selmer C85-115 with the Vandoren Optimum ligature (with
whichever plate it came with) on an old Series 9 Selmer low-Eb. It's
a good package and seems to project well. As for backups--whatever's
in the drawer, I guess, probably Vandoren B40, which would carry me
until the replacement Fobes and/or Grabner arrived in the mail.
Reeds--I'll try anything once, but usually end up on Gonzalez 3-1/2
or (if I'm in shape) 4. I do mostly orchestral and chamber playing,
and the current setup is great for that.

Nobody asked, but I finally ditched the ancient, perpetually smelly
Selmer case for a new BAM, and I LOVE it. It's so light and easy to
handle, you can't tell there's an instrument in it.

What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds?  I was surprised to
see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl.  I wanted to give them a try since seeing all
the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.

I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation.  Do you
think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?

Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:

Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing

Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver,
sometimes it doesn't matter.

(differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the
mouthpiece selected)

Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure.  Also had to replace
the thin cork to work on my 1193

BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!

Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!

I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but these
two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above
mouthpieces.  I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web
page, and have worked toward that end.

----- Original Message -----

From: bradleyhardin@...

To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:21 PM

Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up

 

What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds? I was surprised to see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl. I wanted to give them a try since seeing all the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.

I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation. Do you think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?

Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:

Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing

Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver, sometimes it doesn't matter.

(differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the mouthpiece selected)

Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure. Also had to replace the thin cork to work on my 1193

BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!

Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!

I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but these two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above mouthpieces. I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web page, and have worked toward that end.

I use Gonzalez 2.75 reeds now.  Made the change when I got some samples and they
are by far the best reeds I've ever used--and I never thought I'd swear off
Daniel's Reeds, but I have.

I only use metal ligatures just because they seem to respond better.  I've never
even owned a Rovner until I was in my 30's and that was just out of curiosity.

Old Harrisons are my favorite, but I am really enjoying the Fortissimo ligature
too.  Not too hard to put on and it responds quite well.  Let's me go up and
down the horn with ease--as do the Gonzalez reeds.  Plus, I was lucky enough to
win their World Cup contest so I have 20 boxes of reeds coming.  I'll report in
on how they do :)

And all of that on a Selmer D--can't get much better for me :)

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence Bocaner" <basscl@...>
wrote:
>
> I use Grand Concert and Gonzalez reeds interchangeably with my Garrett/Zinner
mouthpiece -- tip opening about 170. I find that the GC 3-1/2 reeds are about
the same resistance as the Gonzo 3-3/4's. Used to use Vandorens, but now I like
the greater consistency of the other brands.
>
> Last time I ordered Gonzalez reeds it was from a Florida mail order venue that
I will no longer do business with. Both Muncywinds and Fred Weiner stock them; I
have no problem with dealing with either of those.
>
> I'm not a fan of the leather ligatures; students who I have "converted" back
to good old Bonade ligatures have generally appreciated the improved response
and tonal centering the metal ligatures have given them.
>
> Larry Bocaner
> National Symphony Orchestra Washington (retired)
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: bradleyhardin@...
>   To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:21 PM
>   Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
>
>
>
>   What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds? I was surprised to
see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl. I wanted to give them a try since seeing all
the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.
>
>   I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation. Do you
think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?
>
>   Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:
>
>   Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing
>
>   Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver,
sometimes it doesn't matter.
>
>   (differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the
mouthpiece selected)
>
>   Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure. Also had to
replace the thin cork to work on my 1193
>
>   BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!
>
>   Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!
>
>   I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but
these two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above
mouthpieces. I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web
page, and have worked toward that end.
>

I have both the metal Bonade ligature and the Vandoren leather
ligature, and every time I compare them I choose the leather, with the
metal insert. The other two inserts take all the edge off the sound, so
I just put those away permanently. This is true for both my soprano
clarinets and my bass, and I use Grabner mouthpieces for both.  Maybe a
player who wants and edgier sound than I like would choose the Bonade
ligature.

Diana

I play a Bay MO+_M with Grand Concert 3.5 and a Francois Louis Ultimate
Ligature.  I previously used V16 tenor reeds which I preferred over Vandoren
bass reeds.  The shop I work for has some Gonzalez Bb and bass reeds they're
trying to get rid of, the boss says "cheap," so I brought a few boxes home to
try over the weekend.  I haven't been playing a lot of bass lately, but I've
worked on a few dozen school basses over the last few weeks and working on/doing
extended test-playing on some nice French basses has gotten me feeling like
playing some bass.  They run a little hard compared to Grand Concert or
Vandoren, but they're nice reeds, I'll probably buy up whatever is kicking
around the shop so I don't need to worry about bass reeds for a long time.

As for finding Gonzalez reeds, Conn-Selmer imports them, so any store that sells
Conn-Selmer products (Selmer, Leblanc, Conn, Holton, Bach, Armstrong, etc...)
can order Gonzalez reeds for you.  You're most likely to have success with
places that carry a lot of Selmer Paris and Bach mouthpieces as that means they
probably order accessories from them somewhat regularly.  Most local stores are
hesitant to carry more "esoteric" reeds with low demand, but if you're a regular
or if you reach for your wallet instead of getting indignant if they ask for a
deposit, they'll probably order you whatever you want.


Pete


--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, "Lawrence Bocaner" <basscl@...>
wrote:
>
> I use Grand Concert and Gonzalez reeds interchangeably with my Garrett/Zinner
mouthpiece -- tip opening about 170. I find that the GC 3-1/2 reeds are about
the same resistance as the Gonzo 3-3/4's. Used to use Vandorens, but now I like
the greater consistency of the other brands.
>
> Last time I ordered Gonzalez reeds it was from a Florida mail order venue that
I will no longer do business with. Both Muncywinds and Fred Weiner stock them; I
have no problem with dealing with either of those.
>
> I'm not a fan of the leather ligatures; students who I have "converted" back
to good old Bonade ligatures have generally appreciated the improved response
and tonal centering the metal ligatures have given them.
>
> Larry Bocaner
> National Symphony Orchestra Washington (retired)
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: bradleyhardin@...
>   To: NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 4:21 PM
>   Subject: [NewBassClarinetGroup] Gonzalez Reeds and Set-up
>
>
>
>   What's your favorite on-line store to buy Gonzalez reeds? I was surprised to
see WWBW does not stock Bass Cl. I wanted to give them a try since seeing all
the usage on the reed/mouth/lig set-up thread.
>
>   I'm currently using Grand Concert 3 based on Walter's recommendation. Do you
think Gonzalez 3 is generally equivalent?
>
>   Set-ups I have experimented with all using Grand Concert 3 are:
>
>   Grabner CXZ_LB - Most free blowing
>
>   Forbes SF - Slight edge on better sound. Sometimes I like the tooth saver,
sometimes it doesn't matter.
>
>   (differences between Grabner and Forbes are slight, and may just be the
mouthpiece selected)
>
>   Pomarico 2 - Interesting, but has a bit of back pressure. Also had to
replace the thin cork to work on my 1193
>
>   BG Tradition - Yeaaaa!
>
>   Rovner MKIII/C3RL - Yeaaaa!
>
>   I have tried several other medium to high-end metal and fabric ligs, but
these two provide the clear tone and projection I'm looking for with the above
mouthpieces. I tend to favor the sound on Walter's bass clarinet mouthpiece web
page, and have worked toward that end.
>

Hi there,
I'm playing a Pomarico n°3 hard rubber mouthpiece with a "universal" Ligaphone
ligature and 3/5 classic Vandoren reeds on a Selmer 23II horn. Unfortunately my
mouthpiece is quite hold and Pomarico stop to made hard rubber mouthpiece from
many years now. I tryed the crystal one but I really don't like the sensation...
I have a Vandoren B40 wich is rather close but you know it's not the same a
litle bit too bright in the low register the Poma is darker and more "matt"
Thus I try to prolong my Poma life but I know that one day I shall have to live
it... :-(

Pierolivier

Hey all,

I came into three excellent mouthpieces -- McClune-faced Selmer C*'s I picked
out at ICA that are amazingly accurate copies of my Matson -- that I want to
find good homes for.

If you are interested please contact me off-list.

Thanks!
Mike Lowenstern

<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128819529>

I heard this on NPR this afternoon: Jazz critic Kevin Whitehead looks
back at Breuker, who recently at the age of 65.

I'm not familiar with Willem Breuker, but perked my ears when the intro
mentioned bass clarinet as well as saxophone, and the article photo
shows him playing bass clarinet.

-- Heidi

http://vn55.thepillsgreat.net

Has anyone taken the time to produce a treble clef bass clarinet part to the
Shostakovich Violin Concerto?  Someone's asked if I can do it on short notice
and while I think I can, it'd be nice to be focused on making the music, not
reading in bass clef...

Let me know ASAP - thanks!

-Andrew Seigel
andrew.seigel@...

Dear Andrew, I think that the only thing that the part need is to be practised a
lot and played by memory (the most difficult passages of course). I say that for
the particular difficulties of the concert: the role of our instrument and for
the skills that the part needs. There's no time to read the part and play it on
time; a lot of vhanges of rithm and time; solo and section... I mean the bass
clarinet has a great role in Shostakovich, and a part in another clef doesn't
solve any of the problems between the staves...

I've played it several time, and every time it seems like an olimpic game:
difficult and long during the practising but short and without chance of
repetition on concert.
It always needs a great concentration and to be really focused.

That's all.

Stefano

Il giorno 10/ago/2010, alle ore 04:41, "andrew.seigel" <andrew.seigel@...>
ha scritto:

> Has anyone taken the time to produce a treble clef bass clarinet part to the
Shostakovich Violin Concerto?  Someone's asked if I can do it on short notice
and while I think I can, it'd be nice to be focused on making the music, not
reading in bass clef...
>
> Let me know ASAP - thanks!
>
> -Andrew Seigel
> andrew.seigel@...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Does anyone have a good cadenza for the bass clarinet solo part to Der Alte
Brummbar? (The Old Grumbly Bear?) I just purchased the piece, and the cadenza is
non-existent.
I appreciate any help on the matter.

I currently play on a selmer bass clarinet with a c*mouthpiece and a bay
ligature.  Right now, I love Grand Concert Select reeds.

Intonation has always been a problem with my instrument.  I feel like I have to
adjust my embouchure too often while I'm playing.  Open G's need to be lipped
up, and I have to lip down while playing B's and C's going over the break.

Do you think a new mouthpiece would make a noticeable difference?

Would this experienced technician be you, Mr. Grabner?

--- In NewBassClarinetGroup@yahoogroups.com, Walter Grabner <grabnerwg@...>
wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:18 PM, AmyC <rain28@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I currently play on a selmer bass clarinet with a c*mouthpiece and a bay
> > ligature. Right now, I love Grand Concert Select reeds.
> >
> > Intonation has always been a problem with my instrument. I feel like I have
> > to adjust my embouchure too often while I'm playing. Open G's need to be
> > lipped up, and I have to lip down while playing B's and C's going over the
> > break.
> >
> > Do you think a new mouthpiece would make a noticeable difference?
> >
>
> Many bass clarinets suffer from sharp B and C, while having flat E and F a
> twelfth below. The throat tone G is going to be mostly influenced by how far
> you have the neck pulled out,
>
> I doubt that a change of mouthpiece will help this situation.
>
> I recommend you see a technician who is experienced in tuning bass
> clarinets. There are some things that can be done that may help your
> situation.
>
>
> Walter Grabner
> www.clarinetxpress.com
> World Class Clarinet Mouthpieces
> Buffet C;arinets
>
> >
> >
> >
>

After a long hiatus, I had become interested in playing lower clarinets in high
quality

wind ensembles in my area. Thinking the alto clarinet was a good place to start,
I attempted

to arrange for an audition in a well thought of local group and was told that
they don't

use a bass clarinet any more because "nobody writes for it".

I can't believe that this is universally true, so I'm hoping to learn of upper
echelon ensembles

who still use alto clarinet.

  Don't conductors perform pieces like Lincolnshire Posy, Suite of Old American
Dances, or the

  overture to Candide any longer? THese three pieces are sticking in my mind
because I recall

the extremely well written clarinet choir parts in them.

The true timbre of the clarinet family certainly has a big gap without the alto
clarinet, not

to mention transcriptions of Mozart basset horn parts.

I'd certainly like to hear comments about this from other parts of the world
(I'm on the East

  Coast, USA.

It is my experience that if you are playing a representative sample of
concert band music perhaps one-fourth have alto clarinet parts that are
worth playing. You need to be prepared to play bass clarinet or soprano
clarinet on the others.

Some of this depends on the parts and the players in the band. For
example on one or two pieces we played recently the alto clarinet part
was a lot like the tenor sax part. If you have a weak tenor sax player,
they would be worth playing.

Gary
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