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Re: [RedHotJazz] Re: Choro (was Re Argentinian jazz from 1926)

Albert

Yes, there is a very strong connection. In addition several Brazilian
composers wrote "tangos" in a vein that was entirely different from
whatever our River Plate brothers were doing. This is from Ernesto
Nazareth

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=AlQRjb2Clb8&feature=related


(The singing is a good immitation of what was going on at the time,
the dancing is a modern creation and would have been found
unacceptable)



On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Albert Haim <alberthaim@...> wrote:
> Thanks for that interesting link. Some of the Pixinguinha recordings
> are reminiscent of early tangos. Listen to this tango from 1911
>
> http://www.todotango.com/spanish/las_obras/grabacion.aspx?id=1135
>
> Albert
>
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, David Richoux <tubaman@...> wrote:
>>
>> A bit of a discovery - a free collection of the music of Pixinguinha
>> and other Choro musicians from the early 1900s onwards!
>> (web translation is a bit rough, but you should be able to navigate
>> pretty well.)
>> http://acervos.ims.uol.com.br/php/level.php?lang=pt&component=38&item=37
>>
>> then click on the 4 links to Music Composed, Interpreted, Executed, or
>> composed and interpreted by Pixinguinha.
>>
>> Some of the recordings remind me of early Blues field recording,
>> others are quite polished. If you especially like early string bands,
>> be sure to check this all out - I think you all will find some
>> interesting parallels between early Jazz and Choro.
>>
>> David RIchoux
>>
>> On Dec 20, 2008, at 10:23 AM, David Richoux wrote:
>>
>> > On a somewhat related note - in Brazil from the 1840s through the
>> > 1930s there was a very popular style of music called Choro - it was a
>> > blend of European Polkas and other dance songs mixed with African and
>> > South American indigenous rhythms. Wind and stringed instruments were
>> > played, along with vocals and percussion. North American Ragtime and
>> > Jazz influences were added to the mix in the late 1800s and early
>> > 1900s - Samba eventually became more popular, but there is a major
>> > revival of Choro style going on today! (A related style is Forro - a
>> > more modern version of Choro.)
>> >
>> > The word "Choro" is roughly translated as "Cry" and that word has to
>> > do with an emphasis on descending note patterns in the melody and
>> > improvised solos. Interestingly, (especially for tuba players) the
>> > Ophicleide was a major instrument in the bands and there were many
>> > famous players of that difficult instrument. The saxophone eventually
>> > replaced the Ophicleide in Brazil by the 1930s. The musician known as
>> > Pixinguinha is probably the most famous star in the style, but there
>> > were many other famous players and band leaders.
>> >
>> > I have been reading "Choro - A social History of a Brazilian Popular
>> > Music" by Tamara Elena Livingston-Isenhour and there are a few
>> > websites that cover this style of music - a link:
>> > http://keepswinging.blogspot.com/2006/06/more-choro.html and there
>> > are more links in the comments section of this blog.
>> >
>> > David RIchoux
>> >
>> > On Dec 20, 2008, at 5:36 AM, Albert Haim wrote:
>> >
>
>



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Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:31 pm

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Hola Luis, Indeed, there were some good jazz bands in Argentina in the 1920s. If you go to http://bixography.com/wbix1to50.html scroll down to program # 26 and...
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On a somewhat related note - in Brazil from the 1840s through the 1930s there was a very popular style of music called Choro - it was a blend of European...
David Richoux
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Dec 20, 2008
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A bit of a discovery - a free collection of the music of Pixinguinha and other Choro musicians from the early 1900s onwards! (web translation is a bit rough,...
David Richoux
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Dec 20, 2008
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Thanks for that interesting link. Some of the Pixinguinha recordings are reminiscent of early tangos. Listen to this tango from 1911 ...
Albert Haim
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Dec 21, 2008
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Strange finding comments on Pixinguinha's music here (by the way, pronounce it Pee-sheen-GHI-nyah) and choro music. Choro, like traditional jazz, has never...
Danilo Nogueira
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Dec 23, 2008
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Danilo, Thanks for the links and clarification on the (non) relationship of Choro and Forró - I was in a difficult e-mail conversation a few years ago with a...
David Richoux
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Glad to be of help, David. A curiosity that may make things clearly for you and other people who may have an interest in things Brazilian: "Forró",...
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Dec 23, 2008
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Albert Yes, there is a very strong connection. In addition several Brazilian composers wrote "tangos" in a vein that was entirely different from whatever our...
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