The only reissue i have been able to find of Warner's Seven Aces is
Harlequin lp HQ 2030-Warner's Seven Aces 1923-1927.Are there any other
lp or any cd reissues of this band's recordings?-Thanks, Tim

There are 14 tracks on Timeless CBC1038 "Jazz in Atlanta", many of which were
also on the Harlequin LP.

Cheers,

Michael Rader

RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 07.02.06 08:15:52:
>
> The only reissue i have been able to find of Warner's Seven Aces is
> Harlequin lp HQ 2030-Warner's Seven Aces 1923-1927.Are there any other
> lp or any cd reissues of this band's recordings?-Thanks, Tim
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on 24/1/06 21:30, Michael Rader at Rader.Michael@... wrote:

>
> The American Music CD (AMCD 17) contains one 2 minute drum solo: Swanee River
> (Mx.826) plus tracks with Bunk Johnson presumably selected to illustrate
> various facets of Baby's drum playing. They include a version of Maryland, My
> Maryland.
>
Swanee River one was made during American Music's own Bunk Johnson session
of 14 May 1945, apparently as a test of recroding the drum. The story is in
Mike Hazeldine's "Bill Russell's American Music".

This CD is a reissue of AM's four Baby Dodds 10-inch LPs minus titles
included on previous AM CDs. Only three of the original 10-inchers were
actually issued but apparently Baby Dodds 4 was compiled and mastered. These
of course are the teaching recordings originally referred to so we've come
full circle!
>
>
> RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 24.01.06 16:30:31:
>>
>> Many thanks for all the information. The soundtrack on the videoclip is from
>> the recording of Tea for Two. I did't know that you could use your shoe to
>> play drums!
>>
>> Howard Rye <howard@...> wrote:  on 24/1/06 7:09, Michael
>> Rader at Rader.Michael@... wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There is a whole American Music CD (from George Buck) devoted to Baby. I
>>> think
>>> there's another extended drum solo on it (but not Tea for Two) - I haven't
>>> had
>>> time to listen this morning. AM also has a video of Baby which has been
>>> "synchronised" with recordings - the original soundtrack - if there ever was
>>> one - has apparently been lost. There's a snatch of video at:
>>> http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/babydodds.html
>>
>> Tea For Two comes from a session recorded by John Steiner and Hugh Davis on
>> 31 January 1944. 12 titles were recorded and six issued, four on SD (for
>> Steiner-Davis) and two on a special American Music Baby Dodds label (hence
>> the appearance on Dan). All have Tut Soper on piano and the SDs were issued
>> under his name.
>>
>> I can't find any reissue other than the Tea For Two on Dan (twice). Any
>> offers?
>>>
>>> Folkways also recorded Baby solo. The recordings were on a 10inch LP, but
>>> might be available on CD - I recall seeing one up for sale on e-bay a while
>>> back. In any case, I think Smithsonian produces CDs from the Folkways and
>>> Smithsonian catalogues "on demand".
>>> Michael Rader
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 24.01.06 00:57:36:
>>>>
>>>> Came across a Japanese Dan LP re-issue of American Music recordings by Bill
>>>> Russell from 1944-1945. There is a drum solo recording of Tea for Two from
>>>> 1944 with Baby Dodds accompanied by piano. (Except for the "teaching"
>>>> recordings on AM I am not aware of any drum solos recorded by Baby Dodds.)
>>>> Does anybody know if he made more recordings on this occasion, and are
>>>> there
>>>> any other drum solos recorded by him?
>>>>


>>
>> Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
>> howard@...
>> Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098



Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
howard@...
Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098

Have his instrumental sides ever been reissued?  The Gertrude Saunders
accompaniments (1921) and Tim Brymn's Black Devil Four (1923) appear on
Document CDs DOCD-5517 and DOCD-5546, respectively.

jazzguy1927 schreef:

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There are 14 tracks of Warner's Seven Aces on Timeless CBC 1038:

Lonesome Lovesick Got-To-Have-My-Daddy Blues
Mean Eyes (Too Late Blues)
Bessie Couldn't Help It
When My Sugar Walks Down the Stree
The Blues Have Got Me
Cheatin' on Me
Go Get 'Em, Caroline
Breakin' the Leg
Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Doo
Hangin' Around
Who'd Be Blue?
Don't Take That Black Bottom Away
That's My Girl
When Jenny Does Her Low Down Dance

Hank

Hi, I just got to join your group today, having been referred by the
redhotjazz.com website.  I've been playing Ragtime for very many
years, but hadn't learned anything more recent because of the lack
of worthy (in my humble opinion) arrangements in the popular
sheetmusic books.  Paul Posnak changed all that for me when I got
his book of transcriptions of Thomas "Fats" Waller.
Paul Posnak even put out an accompanying CD of himself playing the
pieces by Waller.
Just what I needed!
Paul Posnak is a Professor of Music in Miami and the way he plays is
like a teacher to me the student.  I experienced the same thing from
Wilhelm Kempff's box set of Beethoven Sonatas that were so crisply
played, that I was able to learn more than a half dozen sonatas.
Since then I had moved on to Ragtime, and now Stride and maybe
someday jazz.  Right now the Posnak book of Waller is my mission.
And since I got it a little over a year ago, I've been working to
learn as much as I can.  My tinnitus (perpetual ringing in my ears)
prevents me from working on it more than one or two hours a day.
From what I've seen, there aren't any other
transcription books available of the great solo piano players of the
first half of the 20th century.  But eventually there will be more
(I hope).
Shock describes what I felt when I stumbled on the redhotjazz.com
website where I could hear the original "Fats" Waller solos played
by the one and only!
I found your website by searching for "Fats Waller" in Yahoo but not
a general search: an audio search.
My Favorite Jazz musician is Fletcher Henderson.
Other piano playing greats I admire are Jelly Roll Morton, and dare
I say, Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis?  I know that not many Jazz
people consider boogie-woogie as jazz, but my question then
is, "What is it?"

Dear Tom,

Once you finish the Waller book, you can move on to the Art Tatum book. It
is published by Hal Leonard - and they have many other wonderful piano books
as well.

Cheers,

Andrew Homzy, Montréal

> From: Tom G <tompaulgarrett@...>
> Reply-To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:09:12 +0000
> To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Ragtime to Stridetime
>
> Hi, I just got to join your group today, having been referred by the
> redhotjazz.com website.  I've been playing Ragtime for very many
> years, but hadn't learned anything more recent because of the lack
> of worthy (in my humble opinion) arrangements in the popular
> sheetmusic books.  Paul Posnak changed all that for me when I got
> his book of transcriptions of Thomas "Fats" Waller.
> Paul Posnak even put out an accompanying CD of himself playing the
> pieces by Waller.
> Just what I needed!

Hi Tom. Don't have time to provide details, but Google John Farrell midi.
He's a Brit stride pianist who transcribes jazz piano solos into midi, and
also sells sheet music to many (perhaps all) of them. Lotsa great stuff!
And he's happy to have you download the midi files.

--Sheik
http://americanmusiccaravan.com


> Hi, I just got to join your group today, having been referred by the
redhotjazz.com website.  I've been playing Ragtime for very many years,
but hadn't learned anything more recent because of the lack of worthy
(in my humble opinion) arrangements in the popular
> sheetmusic books.  Paul Posnak changed all that for me when I got his
book of transcriptions of Thomas "Fats" Waller.
> Paul Posnak even put out an accompanying CD of himself playing the
pieces by Waller.
> Just what I needed!
> Paul Posnak is a Professor of Music in Miami and the way he plays is
like a teacher to me the student.  I experienced the same thing from
Wilhelm Kempff's box set of Beethoven Sonatas that were so crisply
played, that I was able to learn more than a half dozen sonatas. Since
then I had moved on to Ragtime, and now Stride and maybe
> someday jazz.  Right now the Posnak book of Waller is my mission. And
since I got it a little over a year ago, I've been working to learn as
much as I can.  My tinnitus (perpetual ringing in my ears) prevents me
from working on it more than one or two hours a day.
>>From what I've seen, there aren't any other
> transcription books available of the great solo piano players of the
first half of the 20th century.  But eventually there will be more (I
hope).
> Shock describes what I felt when I stumbled on the redhotjazz.com
website where I could hear the original "Fats" Waller solos played by
the one and only!
> I found your website by searching for "Fats Waller" in Yahoo but not a
general search: an audio search.
> My Favorite Jazz musician is Fletcher Henderson.
> Other piano playing greats I admire are Jelly Roll Morton, and dare I
say, Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis?  I know that not many Jazz
people consider boogie-woogie as jazz, but my question then
> is, "What is it?"
>
>

Wow Andrew Homzy,
I've been treading water in a sea of "no feedback" for years, where
fellow musicians are concerned.  Your response is something that
will motivate me to step on the gas pedal and really try to make a
jazz musician out of myself.  I just sampled amazon.com's "Complete
Pablo Solo Masterpieces" by Art Tatum and to tell you the truth, I'm
not proficient enough at runs to do them justice, but my attitude is
this; music is like a good meal ... If it's good to eat when it's
hot, it'll be good to eat when it's cold ... that is to say that
speed is good, but if the song's harmony is genius, it will show
through no matter how slow it's played.  This perspective has gotten
me through lots and lots of really tough stuff.  In time the speed
comes, but Art Tatum is nothing like anything I could imagine coming
from me, but I will not defer an inspiration, so I'll give it a go.






--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Homzy <homzy@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Tom,
>
> Once you finish the Waller book, you can move on to the Art Tatum
book. It
> is published by Hal Leonard - and they have many other wonderful
piano books
> as well.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andrew Homzy, Montréal
>
> > From: Tom G <tompaulgarrett@...>
> > Reply-To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 00:09:12 +0000
> > To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [RedHotJazz] Ragtime to Stridetime
> >
> > Hi, I just got to join your group today, having been referred by
the
> > redhotjazz.com website.  I've been playing Ragtime for very many
> > years, but hadn't learned anything more recent because of the
lack
> > of worthy (in my humble opinion) arrangements in the popular
> > sheetmusic books.  Paul Posnak changed all that for me when I got
> > his book of transcriptions of Thomas "Fats" Waller.
> > Paul Posnak even put out an accompanying CD of himself playing
the
> > pieces by Waller.
> > Just what I needed!
>

I can't help with these men, but Bob Deikman, who recorded at an adjacent
session to Lyst Reynolds, was in Lima, Ohio as at 1930.  That may (or may not)
indicate a provenance for the others.

Bob

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Good old Jelly . . .

2006 Grammy Awards

BEST ALBUM NOTES
"The Complete Library Of Congress Recordings By Alan Lomax," John
Szwed, album notes writer (Jelly Roll Morton) (Winner)

BEST HISTORICAL ALBUM
"The Complete Library Of Congress Recordings By Alan Lomax," Jeffrey
Greenberg & Anna Lomax Wood, compilation producers; Adam Ayan & Steve
Rosenthal, mastering engineers (Jelly Roll Morton) (Winner)

Joe Kaye.

I have a CD purchased at a cheap outlet, for a cheap cost, featuring 17
tracks by Ella. They seem to vary from mid 30's to the 50's. One track
"Baby Won't You Please Come Home" has some lovely work by Lester Young on it.
My problem however is the personel on a track called "All My Life"
It is from the 30's and has a small group that is very "Bill Holidayish".
What I would call one of Billy's small studio groups. Some of the best jazz
ever recorded in my opinion, however I am getting side-tracked.
Does anyone know the musos on this track from the very scant information I
have given?

Peter L.

on 9/2/06 9:59, Peter L. Reid at reid1947@... wrote:

> I have a CD purchased at a cheap outlet, for a cheap cost, featuring 17
> tracks by Ella. They seem to vary from mid 30's to the 50's. One track
> "Baby Won't You Please Come Home" has some lovely work by Lester Young on it.
> My problem however is the personel on a track called "All My Life"
> It is from the 30's and has a small group that is very "Bill Holidayish".
> What I would call one of Billy's small studio groups.

Not surprising as it is Teddy Wilson & His Orchestra

Frank Newton, trumpet; Benny Morton, trombone; Jerry Blake, clarinet/alto
sax; Teddy McRae, tenor sax; Wilson, piano; John Truheart, guitar, Leemie
Stanfield, bass; Cozy Cole, drums.

This from Rust 3. Rust 5 has a spurious correction to Lennie Stanfield, but
this presumably is Leemie Stanfield who was Erskine Hawkins's bass player
for years.

Date is 17 March 1936.

Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
howard@...
Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098

Howard
Thank you for your prompt reply. Much appreciated.

Peter L.

I hope you have not overlooked James Dapogny's transcriptions of the great Jelly
Roll Morton - perhaps not as accomplished a technician as Waller but much more
of a jazzer!

Tom G <tompaulgarrett@...> wrote:  Hi, I just got to join your group
today, having been referred by the
redhotjazz.com website.  I've been playing Ragtime for very many
years, but hadn't learned anything more recent because of the lack
of worthy (in my humble opinion) arrangements in the popular
sheetmusic books.  Paul Posnak changed all that for me when I got
his book of transcriptions of Thomas "Fats" Waller.
Paul Posnak even put out an accompanying CD of himself playing the
pieces by Waller.
Just what I needed!
Paul Posnak is a Professor of Music in Miami and the way he plays is
like a teacher to me the student.  I experienced the same thing from
Wilhelm Kempff's box set of Beethoven Sonatas that were so crisply
played, that I was able to learn more than a half dozen sonatas.
Since then I had moved on to Ragtime, and now Stride and maybe
someday jazz.  Right now the Posnak book of Waller is my mission.
And since I got it a little over a year ago, I've been working to
learn as much as I can.  My tinnitus (perpetual ringing in my ears)
prevents me from working on it more than one or two hours a day.
From what I've seen, there aren't any other
transcription books available of the great solo piano players of the
first half of the 20th century.  But eventually there will be more
(I hope).
Shock describes what I felt when I stumbled on the redhotjazz.com
website where I could hear the original "Fats" Waller solos played
by the one and only!
I found your website by searching for "Fats Waller" in Yahoo but not
a general search: an audio search.
My Favorite Jazz musician is Fletcher Henderson.
Other piano playing greats I admire are Jelly Roll Morton, and dare
I say, Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis?  I know that not many Jazz
people consider boogie-woogie as jazz, but my question then
is, "What is it?"






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--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Hugh Crozier <jellyrollstomp@...>
wrote:
>
> I hope you have not overlooked James Dapogny's transcriptions of the
great Jelly Roll Morton - perhaps not as accomplished a technician as
Waller but much more of a jazzer!


That's a tip and a half! Thanks Hugh.  I'm not exactly technically
challenged, but the clear cool crisp lines of the early jazz greats
are the ones that repeat the most in the morning when waking up.

Without the resources the internet has to offer, life would be, well,
mundane and mediocre.

--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Hugh Crozier <jellyrollstomp@...>
wrote:
>
> I hope you have not overlooked James Dapogny's transcriptions of the
great Jelly Roll Morton - perhaps not as accomplished a technician as
Waller but much more of a jazzer!
>
>

Well, this is my first post here on this group!

I second the recommendation for Dapgony's transcriptions!  And I can
vouch for his amazing ear and knowledge.  I took a course called
"Theory of Early Jazz" while a student at the University of Michigan,
and rememeber his being able to sit down and play just about anything
at the piano with amazing accuracy from the many records he introduced
us to.

I'm looking for a recording by Art Kahn's Orchestra made in January,
1924.  The song is "Shanghai Lullaby" and the recording is on Columbia
45-D (Flag-Label).  If anyone has this recording and could send me a
copy either on a tape or Mp3, I would be most grateful.

Sincerely,
Matt McLaughlin

Does anyone have the (fairly) new Mosaic Select (No. 22) 3-CD set on
Sidney Bechet (Columbia recordings plus the Blue Five)? In particular
are there any comments on audio quality or the 14 alternate takes
issued for the first time?

Best,

Michael Rader

Greetings,

I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9 years
old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
African American History month.  We've done a lot of research about Ms.
Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the huge
impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any specifics
as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of her
dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away from
her more provacative stage incarnations!).

For example, this is what the official Josephine Baker Web site has to
say...

> She enjoyed moderate success at The Plantation Club in New York after
> Shuffle Along. However, when Josephine traveled to Paris for a new
> venture, La Revue Nègre, it proved to be a turning point in her
> career. Amongst a compilation of acts, Josephine and dance partner Joe
> Alex captivated the audience with the Danse Sauvage. Everything about
> the routine was new and exotic, and Josephine, boldly dressed in
> nothing but a feather skirt, worked the audience into frenzy with her
> uninhibited movements. She was an overnight sensation.


Thanks,

Erica

--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Erica Burman <ericaburman@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9 years
> old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
> African American History month.  We've done a lot of research about Ms.
> Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the huge
> impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any specifics
> as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of her
> dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away from
> her more provacative stage incarnations!).
>
Hi Erica,

take a look to this page/videoframe.

http://www.digischool.nl/ckv2/moderne/moderne/baker/baker.htm

The music is simply the charleston. You can listen in the RHJA to more than one
track of
the "Original Charleston" composed by James P. Johnson.
Two  of my favorit´s of these Dance tune are by Ben Selvin and (sorry) Paul
Whiteman.
Greets Uli

Erica,
You can see a picture of Josephine Baker and Joe Alex dancing here:
http://www.redhotjazz.com/josephinebaker.html

On this page I've written, "Josephine had two numbers in La Revue Negré.
In the first routine she danced a frantic version of the Charleston
while accompanied by a jazz band that featured Sidney Bechet
<http://www.redhotjazz.com/bechet.html>. Her second routine was the
closing number of the show was called "Danse de Sauvage". It was an
erotic dance that she performed with the male dancer named Joe Alex."

I'd suggest that your daughter dance the "Charleston"

Here are a couple versions of the famous song "Charleston" that could work:
http://www.redhotjazz.com/pwo.html
http://www.redhotjazz.com/gibbsgang.html

Here's some instructions on how to dance the Charleston:
http://www.homesteadmuseum.org/jtt/1920s%20charleston.pdf

All of these pages have links to Josephine's own recordings:
http://www.redhotjazz.com/josephinebaker.html
http://www.redhotjazz.com/bakerfb.html
http://www.redhotjazz.com/bakermj.html
http://www.redhotjazz.com/bakerpp.html
http://www.redhotjazz.com/jbch.html

Scott Alexander
The Red Hot Jazz Archive
www.redhotjazz.com


Erica Burman wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9 years
> old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
> African American History month.  We've done a lot of research about Ms.
> Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the huge
> impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any specifics
> as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of her
> dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away from
> her more provacative stage incarnations!).
>
> For example, this is what the official Josephine Baker Web site has to
> say...
>
>
>> She enjoyed moderate success at The Plantation Club in New York after
>> Shuffle Along. However, when Josephine traveled to Paris for a new
>> venture, La Revue Nègre, it proved to be a turning point in her
>> career. Amongst a compilation of acts, Josephine and dance partner Joe
>> Alex captivated the audience with the Danse Sauvage. Everything about
>> the routine was new and exotic, and Josephine, boldly dressed in
>> nothing but a feather skirt, worked the audience into frenzy with her
>> uninhibited movements. She was an overnight sensation.
>>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Erica
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

> Does anyone have the (fairly) new Mosaic Select (No. 22) 3-CD set on
> Sidney Bechet (Columbia recordings plus the Blue Five)? In particular
> are there any comments on audio quality or the 14 alternate takes
> issued for the first time?
> Michael Rader

Doug Pomeroy did the transfers, so they ought to be pretty good. He also
did the Bix-Tram-Teagarden set.

I'm not buying on this set, because it doesn't have all the 1920s records.

BTW, http://www.mosaicrecords.com listings include the complete
discographies of the sets.

--Sheik
http://americanmusiccaravan.com

What caught my interest, apart from the 14 newly released alternate takes of the
40s recordings, was the claim that Mosaic had sought out the best available
copies of the 20s 78s and that this was the best-ever sounding reissue.

Like you, Sheik, I have multiple reissues of many of the Blue Fives (e.g. the
King Jazz and Timeless JRTD transfers, then the epm Clarence Williams, the
Masters of Jazz Bechets etc.).  So I would like to know if owners of the set
agree with Mosaic's claim.

Cheers,

Michael


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I hadn't come across a video clip on the Web.

Cheers,

Erica

uli wrote:

>--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Erica Burman <ericaburman@...> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9 years
> > old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
> > African American History month.  We've done a lot of research about Ms.
> > Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the huge
> > impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any specifics
> > as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of her
> > dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away from
> > her more provacative stage incarnations!).
> >
>Hi Erica,
>
>take a look to this page/videoframe.
>
>http://www.digischool.nl/ckv2/moderne/moderne/baker/baker.htm
>
>The music is simply the charleston. You can listen in the RHJA to more than one
>track of
>the "Original Charleston" composed by James P. Johnson.
>Two  of my favorit´s of these Dance tune are by Ben Selvin and (sorry) Paul
>Whiteman.
>Greets Uli
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hi i write and distribute locally a one sheet music trivia newsletter
and i was wondering if any one would care to contribute to it i,ll be glad to
send a copy of it to the group just lwt me know

I wonder how many of you noticed a young Maurice Chevalier at the end
of the Josephine Baker clip.

The Chevalier bit must have been spliced in since Chevalier did not
appear in La Revue Negre. Baker and Chevalier did not perform together
until 1939.

Albert


--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "uli" <ulibiller@...> wrote:
>
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Erica Burman <ericaburman@> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9 years
> > old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
> > African American History month.  We've done a lot of research
about Ms.
> > Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the huge
> > impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any
specifics
> > as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of
her
> > dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away
from
> > her more provacative stage incarnations!).
> >
> Hi Erica,
>
> take a look to this page/videoframe.
>
> http://www.digischool.nl/ckv2/moderne/moderne/baker/baker.htm
>
> The music is simply the charleston. You can listen in the RHJA to
more than one track of
> the "Original Charleston" composed by James P. Johnson.
> Two  of my favorit´s of these Dance tune are by Ben Selvin and
(sorry) Paul Whiteman.
> Greets Uli
>

Albert:

I did  notice it.  At first I thought, "What's that (white) guy doing there?" 
Then I replayed and paused it frame-by-frame.  Obviously the facial features
could not be discerned.  But the movements and, yes, even the tip of the hat
seemed unmistakable.  Still I could say positively.  Thanks for confirming it.

Jeff.


----- Original Message -----
From: Albert Haim
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2/17/2006 5:45:12 AM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: What music would Josephine Baker have danced to?


I wonder how many of you noticed a young Maurice Chevalier at the end
of the Josephine Baker clip.

The Chevalier bit must have been spliced in since Chevalier did not
appear in La Revue Negre. Baker and Chevalier did not perform together
until 1939.

Albert


--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "uli" <ulibiller@...> wrote:
>
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Erica Burman <ericaburman@> wrote:
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9 years
> > old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
> > African American History month.  We've done a lot of research
about Ms.
> > Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the huge
> > impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any
specifics
> > as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of
her
> > dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away
from
> > her more provacative stage incarnations!).
> >
> Hi Erica,
>
> take a look to this page/videoframe.
>
> http://www.digischool.nl/ckv2/moderne/moderne/baker/baker.htm
>
> The music is simply the charleston. You can listen in the RHJA to
more than one track of
> the "Original Charleston" composed by James P. Johnson.
> Two  of my favorit´s of these Dance tune are by Ben Selvin and
(sorry) Paul Whiteman.
> Greets Uli
>






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Jeff:

I have the impression that the Josephine Baker clip is silent, and
that the music was added. I noticed absence of synchronization between
the sound and the movements.

There is silent footage of Josephine Baker in "La revue des revues"
(1927) and "La folie du jour" (a short of her 1926 Folies Bergeres
show). I wonder if the clip is from one of these.

Albert




--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Jastram" <mister_j@...> wrote:
>
> Albert:
>
> I did  notice it.  At first I thought, "What's that (white) guy
doing there?"  Then I replayed and paused it frame-by-frame.
Obviously the facial features could not be discerned.  But the
movements and, yes, even the tip of the hat seemed unmistakable.
Still I could say positively.  Thanks for confirming it.
>
> Jeff.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Albert Haim
> To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 2/17/2006 5:45:12 AM
> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: What music would Josephine Baker have
danced to?
>
>
> I wonder how many of you noticed a young Maurice Chevalier at the end
> of the Josephine Baker clip.
>
> The Chevalier bit must have been spliced in since Chevalier did not
> appear in La Revue Negre. Baker and Chevalier did not perform together
> until 1939.
>
> Albert
>
>
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "uli" <ulibiller@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Erica Burman <ericaburman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9
years
> > > old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
> > > African American History month.  We've done a lot of research
> about Ms.
> > > Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the
huge
> > > impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any
> specifics
> > > as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of
> her
> > > dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away
> from
> > > her more provacative stage incarnations!).
> > >
> > Hi Erica,
> >
> > take a look to this page/videoframe.
> >
> > http://www.digischool.nl/ckv2/moderne/moderne/baker/baker.htm
> >
> > The music is simply the charleston. You can listen in the RHJA to
> more than one track of
> > the "Original Charleston" composed by James P. Johnson.
> > Two  of my favorit´s of these Dance tune are by Ben Selvin and
> (sorry) Paul Whiteman.
> > Greets Uli
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Albert:

An excellent analysis.  You saw a great deal more than I did at first glance.

After further review I believe I discern at least 3, maybe 4, separate
performances.  While I am glad that film such as this has survived, I am equally
disappointed that the historical record is so easily distorted.

Ever the purist ...

Jeff.


----- Original Message -----
From: Albert Haim
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 2/17/2006 10:56:27 AM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: What music would Josephine Baker have danced to?


Jeff:

I have the impression that the Josephine Baker clip is silent, and
that the music was added. I noticed absence of synchronization between
the sound and the movements.

There is silent footage of Josephine Baker in "La revue des revues"
(1927) and "La folie du jour" (a short of her 1926 Folies Bergeres
show). I wonder if the clip is from one of these.

Albert




--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Jeffrey Jastram" <mister_j@...> wrote:
>
> Albert:
>
> I did  notice it.  At first I thought, "What's that (white) guy
doing there?"  Then I replayed and paused it frame-by-frame.
Obviously the facial features could not be discerned.  But the
movements and, yes, even the tip of the hat seemed unmistakable.
Still I could say positively.  Thanks for confirming it.
>
> Jeff.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Albert Haim
> To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: 2/17/2006 5:45:12 AM
> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: What music would Josephine Baker have
danced to?
>
>
> I wonder how many of you noticed a young Maurice Chevalier at the end
> of the Josephine Baker clip.
>
> The Chevalier bit must have been spliced in since Chevalier did not
> appear in La Revue Negre. Baker and Chevalier did not perform together
> until 1939.
>
> Albert
>
>
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "uli" <ulibiller@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Erica Burman <ericaburman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > I hope this group can give me some good advice.  My daughter (9
years
> > > old) is going to appear as Josephine Baker in a school pageant for
> > > African American History month.  We've done a lot of research
> about Ms.
> > > Baker on the internet (fascinating woman!) and learned about the
huge
> > > impact she had in the 20s and 30s in Paris, but don't have any
> specifics
> > > as to what she might have danced to, or even a good description of
> her
> > > dancing (this being a school production, we're going to stay away
> from
> > > her more provacative stage incarnations!).
> > >
> > Hi Erica,
> >
> > take a look to this page/videoframe.
> >
> > http://www.digischool.nl/ckv2/moderne/moderne/baker/baker.htm
> >
> > The music is simply the charleston. You can listen in the RHJA to
> more than one track of
> > the "Original Charleston" composed by James P. Johnson.
> > Two  of my favorit´s of these Dance tune are by Ben Selvin and
> (sorry) Paul Whiteman.
> > Greets Uli
> >
>
>
>
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