... John Chilton's Who's Who of Jazz notes that Walter Page is not related to Vernon Page. Can't gind any biography of Vernon. Any offers? Howard Rye, 20...
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Nicola Ardenghi
sahfen
May 9, 2007 7:41 pm
On April 1, 2007 the last of Louis Armstrong's great drummers, Danny Barcelona, died at the age of 77. Here is the article where I read the sad news: ...
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tommersl
May 12, 2007 8:58 am
I'm right now in the middle of The Real Jazz/Hugues Panassie, it is written "copyright 1942" but the preface doesn't give the years he worked on these...
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Howard Rye
howardrye
May 12, 2007 10:54 am
on 12/5/07 9:58, tommersl at tommersl@... wrote: I'm right now in the middle of The Real Jazz/Hugues Panassie, it is written "copyright 1942" but the...
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Dan Van Landingham
danvanlandin...
May 12, 2007 3:21 pm
I've read a number of articles that Panassie was quoted from on the backs of LP albums.I had a book by Robert Goffin but that was some thirty years ago(in the...
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drdee51@...
drkrupa51
May 13, 2007 8:00 am
If I may step in on this thread. I read Panassie's first book about 37 years ago. The same for Shining Trumpets by Blesh. I personally dismiss both books....
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Howard Rye
howardrye
May 13, 2007 8:41 am
... Presumably you don't read French and have therefore never read Discographie Critique or any of Panassié's reviews in the Hot Club Bulletin. He wrote...
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tommersl
May 13, 2007 9:06 am
... fairness, don't we all? But their writings need to be put into perspective. Personally I prefer someone who is a Jazz critic or any art critic to define...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
May 13, 2007 10:47 am
" Jazz can be defined, but only in terms of a flexible, growing art which changes as the conditions under which it is performed change, and because thinking...
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Howard Rye
howardrye
May 13, 2007 12:57 pm
... I am not about to defend Blesh's absurdities, which are many and varied, and especially later when he changed his views and tried to incorporate players he...
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tommersl
May 13, 2007 1:37 pm
... once ... second ... of the ... I am curious about the dates Panassie revisited his own views of his first book, as I want to know whether the 1939...
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Tony Standish
standish_au
May 13, 2007 1:41 pm
Poor old Panassie. He was a pioneeer, an enthusiast, a doer. He wrote books, organized sessions, contributed to magazines, made mistakes. Same for Blesh,...
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Mike
solon48
May 13, 2007 5:19 pm
I have never read any of the named authors. Although long ago I read numerous articles after having played "jazz" for over 15 years, I still feel at sea as to...
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Howard Rye
howardrye
May 13, 2007 5:57 pm
... For what it's worth (possibly not a lot) he offers an explanation in the preface to the second edition of 'The Real Jazz', here summarized: "I had had the...
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tommersl
May 13, 2007 7:07 pm
... through white ... jazz." ... who had ... criticized in ... unconsciously ... first." ... is not ... though I ... Road to ... moment of ... Dodge wrote...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
May 14, 2007 9:19 am
Panassié we have done here before and I do not want to repeat. It is a pleasure to read Howard but I cannot accept his nice Japanese Temple Drums analogy....
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drdee51@...
drkrupa51
May 14, 2007 10:40 am
That was the point of my original post on this. Thanks, Dave. It appears you said it better than me. ... From: David Brown Date: Monday, May 14, 2007 5:19 am...
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tommersl
May 14, 2007 11:09 am
... Panassié ... history ... Before dismissing all Panassie's works on the basis of racism, I think it is a real need to know whether he was really a racist....
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drdee51@...
drkrupa51
May 14, 2007 12:26 pm
I fully understand what you are saying. The point presented appears to be based on one singular premise. Since, in truth, the origins and consolidation of...
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Patrice Champarou
patrice_champ
May 14, 2007 12:28 pm
... From: "David Brown" ... Really? I liked it because I think it was the best way to insist, once again, on the fact that defining a musician as "white" or...
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Patrice Champarou
patrice_champ
May 14, 2007 12:48 pm
... "what", Monsieur Champarou! P. (with sore eyes and a blinking screen ;-)...
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Howard Rye
howardrye
May 14, 2007 1:01 pm
... We've done all the other stuff before too! Panassié defined jazz as an African-American style and related players who were not of African-American culture...
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Michael Rader
armstark2000
May 14, 2007 2:16 pm
I think it's important to bear in mind that we are talking about opinions formed and expressed mainly in the first half of the last century. In those days,...
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tommersl
May 14, 2007 3:21 pm
... to be based on one singular premise. Since, in truth, the origins and consolidation of musical forms which gave us the great and special music we have...
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drdee51@...
drkrupa51
May 14, 2007 3:33 pm
Please note that in MY part of the world, racist refers to a pattern of thinking which translates into behavior. It is worse than being an insult, it keeps...
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Patrice Champarou
patrice_champ
May 14, 2007 4:33 pm
... From: <drdee51@...> ... Same here, as you can guess. So what? I did not mean to offend anyone or start an off-topic discussion, but I've often...
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spacelights
May 14, 2007 11:58 pm
... Incidentally, ... I'm not sure how anyone could be sure at this point... I would guess that they inspired eachother. From 'Hear Me Talkin' To Ya': "[Jimmy...
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Rick Hensel
nomcaller
May 15, 2007 12:51 am
Greetings. I'm rather new to this, and have really only responded to one topic in the past few months since finding this site. You mentioned Jack Teagarden,...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
May 15, 2007 8:15 am
I've just dug out 'Concerning Jazz', Jazz Book Club 1958, which contains a chapter by Panassié 'A soul and a beat : the essence of jazz'. Howard would know...
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Howard Rye
howardrye
May 15, 2007 8:20 am
... We've done all the other stuff before too! Panassié defined jazz as an African-American style and related players who were not of African-American culture...
