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#4524 From: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith@...>
Date: Wed Aug 1, 2007 4:40 pm
Subject: Red Hot Jazz archive is now working again
jayaressno
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Have just tested it, and it's working OK.

Bob Smith


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#4525 From: "Albert Haim" <alberthaim@...>
Date: Thu Aug 2, 2007 5:46 pm
Subject: Bix Vigil
alberthaim
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Bix Beiderbecke, the jazz genius from Davenport, Iowa, died on August
6, 1931. Every year, a group of Bixophiles gathers in front of Bix's
last residence to pay tribute to his musical legacy. Paul Maringelli
organizes the event and sends the following invitation.
*************************

The memorial for this jazz pioneer will be held on Saturday, August 4,
2007 at the building where he lived his last days.

It will begin at 6:00 pm
at 43-12 46th (Bliss) Street, Sunnyside (Queens), NY
(The All Saints Churchyard)
With guest speakers and exhibits

Featuring the music of Bix Beiderbecke performed by
The Sunnyside Memorial Jazz Orchestra,

A candlelight vigil will follow

You are cordially invited to attend this annual community event. Bring
a guest or two!
Hope you are able to attend!

Paul Maringelli, Chairman
**************************

I hope as many of you within driving or subway distance will make it.
I live in Eastern Long Island. I take the LIRR to Woodside and then
the # 7.

Albert

#4526 From: "The Sheik of Dixieland Araby" <sahfen@...>
Date: Sat Aug 4, 2007 8:54 am
Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, LOUIS!
sahfen
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106 years ago a musical genius was born.

Happy Birthday, Satch!

Nicola

#4527 From: "paintedbanjo" <paintedbanjo@...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2007 3:16 am
Subject: can listen to tunes on archive
paintedbanjo
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My windows media player will not stream the music,do i need a
plugin,codec,another player???Please help

Thanks-Sergio

#4528 From: "Ron L" <lherault@...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2007 2:02 pm
Subject: RE: can listen to tunes on archive
hotjazzron
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What archive are you talking about, redhotjazz.com?  search for and download
Real Alternative if you are trying to play files from redhotjazz.

Ron L

-----Original Message-----
From: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of paintedbanjo
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:17 PM
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RedHotJazz] can listen to tunes on archive

My windows media player will not stream the music,do i need a
plugin,codec,another player???Please help

Thanks-Sergio




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#4529 From: "Ladislav" <drelef@...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2007 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: can listen to tunes on archive
drelef2734
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--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "paintedbanjo" <paintedbanjo@...>
wrote:
>
> My windows media player will not stream the music,do i need a
> plugin,codec,another player???Please help
>
> Thanks-Sergio
>
Listening the music from archives doesn´t work al all here today, too.
I´m worrying that´s the END of Redhotjazz site announced before
(because of stupid copyrights).
So terribly sorry !!!   drelef

[Moderation : please don't panic! Unless Scott tells use otherwise, this must be
nothing but another temporary failure. The correct reply to Sergio is that
realaudio streaming cannot be read by Windows Media Player at all, and never
could. You need to install the free version of RealPlayer (from real.com I
suppose, but I cannot tell you the detailed procedure because I am automatically
redirected to the French site and I guess things work a bit differently)
P.]

#4530 From: "Ladislav" <drelef@...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2007 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: can listen to tunes on archive
drelef2734
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--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Ladislav" <drelef@...> wrote:
>
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "paintedbanjo" <paintedbanjo@>
> wrote:
> >
> > My windows media player will not stream the music,do i need a
> > plugin,codec,another player???Please help
> >
> > Thanks-Sergio
> >
> Listening the music from archives doesn´t work al all here today,
too.
> I´m worrying that´s the END of Redhotjazz site announced before
> (because of stupid copyrights).
> So terribly sorry !!!   drelef
>
> [Moderation : please don't panic! Unless Scott tells use otherwise,
this must be nothing but another temporary failure. The correct reply
to Sergio is that realaudio streaming cannot be read by Windows Media
Player at all, and never could. You need to install the free version
of RealPlayer (from real.com I suppose, but I cannot tell you the
detailed procedure because I am automatically redirected to the
French site and I guess things work a bit differently)

I hope You´re right. The REDHOTJAZZ is my most favorite site. Plenty
of fascinating old music and musicians ... These news of ending
redhotjazz were hoaxes, weren´t they.    drelef

> P.]
>

#4531 From: "Patrice Champarou" <patrice.champarou@...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2007 3:45 pm
Subject: Re: Re: can listen to tunes on archive
patrice_champ
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ladislav"

> I hope You´re right. The REDHOTJAZZ is my most favorite site. Plenty
> of fascinating old music and musicians ... These news of ending
> redhotjazz were hoaxes, weren´t they.    drelef

No hoaxes, just very serious questions from different points of view -
legal, technical, financial... Unless I've been very absent-minded, I do not
think Scott informed us of his final decision yet.
Anyway, the unavailable soundfiles are a much older, recurrent, but quite
different problem ;-)

Patrice

#4532 From: "drdesutter" <ddesutter@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2007 4:17 pm
Subject: Archive Status amd Song Request (Piggy Wiggy Woo)
drdesutter
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Hi,

I am new to the group so I thought I would first ask if it is normal
for the archive site to be down for this long a period (3 days). I
started listening to music from it last week and it is really a great
site for this type of music.

My father is 87 years old and has started singing parts of these
songs from memory of his younger days. He was frustrated at first
since he could not remember all of the verses so when I connected him
with this site, he was quite pleased.

A recent song he has just begun reciting is Piggy Wiggy Woo. Don't
ask me where he comes up with these since last week it was the Dipsy
Doodle and Elmer's Tune.

Is there another similar site where access to the old tunes are
available? I have searched everywhere for Piggy Wiggy Woo and this
site is the only 'hit' I have come across.

Thanks for any help.
Don DeSutter

#4533 From: "lmme2001" <lmme2001@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2007 4:47 pm
Subject: Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
lmme2001
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Hello :-o

Thank you for welcoming my inscription ... :-) to your group ; i wish
to ear Esther Bigeou but i didn't find any records in e-mule down load
; can you tell me where i can find on the web some sites inviting to
listen to Esther ;


Amicalement


Janine , june .

#4534 From: "Patrice Champarou" <patrice.champarou@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2007 5:37 pm
Subject: Re: Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
patrice_champ
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AARGH! Bad search, they're here too :

http://www.redhotjazz.com/bigeou.html

Well, they will, as soon as the server works again... has anyone warn Scott
privately yet?

P.

#4535 From: "Patrice Champarou" <patrice.champarou@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2007 5:24 pm
Subject: Re: Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
patrice_champ
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----- Original Message -----
From: "lmme2001" <lmme2001@...>
To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:47 PM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou


>
>
> Hello :-o
>
> Thank you for welcoming my inscription ... :-) to your group ; i wish
> to ear Esther Bigeou but i didn't find any records in e-mule down load
> ; can you tell me where i can find on the web some sites inviting to
> listen to Esther

Bienvenue au club, Janine! ;-)

Websites, don't know, except for eMusic where DOCD 5489 is available. Even
if you do not wish to subscribe (and pay), the free trial downloads might
suit your needs, all 17 issued tracks are there. If I were an Esther Bigeou
fan, I'd rather buy the CD (as cheap as £5.99 from
http://www.document-records.com )

Patrice

#4536 From: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2007 5:34 pm
Subject: Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
jayaressno
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Hello June?, Janine?

Normally you can listen to all 17 of Esther's recorded songs by going to the Red
Hot Jazz site at:
http://www.redhotjazz.com/bigeou.html
but at the moment the site music server is not working, but you can read about
her and her records.

When the server is working again you can listen to her music if you have Real
Player. If not, there are directions on the site for obtaining Real Player free
of charge.

Regards

Bob Smith


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

#4537 From: "Patrice Champarou" <patrice.champarou@...>
Date: Wed Aug 8, 2007 6:32 pm
Subject: Re: Archive Status amd Song Request (Piggy Wiggy Woo)
patrice_champ
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Hi Don

I think there is no "other" site. For clarity, I suppose I should mention
http://www.jazz-on-line.com/ (where you won't find Piggy Wiggy Woo anyway)
which offers nice samples, much better in sound quality than Scott's, for
the good reason that they were pirated from commercial records - I've just
listened to Leadbelly's Rock Island Line, directly robbed from BGOCD403...
anyone willing to pay his fees to the webmaster can download it instead of
buying the CD, but I won't!

The purpose of the RedHotJazz archives is, I think, pedagogical in the first
place - plus the pleasure of listening, when it works - but definitely not
making money out of stolen material. Although Scott has been silent for a
while, I think I should add my word, as the owner/manager of this group, to
several recent posts sent by worried subscribers.
The purpose of this group is to discuss pre-war jazz, and even if the future
of the Archives is part of our concerns I think the topic does not extend to
the many ways of copying, stealing and sharing soundfiles which a restricted
number of small companies still attempt to reissue. I am not going to
discuss the financial or moral issues of piracy and I'll gladly keep my
opinion private, I just think that, since our group is linked to the
RedHotJazz website and none else, such discussion would be off-topic. Three
days you said? OK, we saw worse, and still remained patient ;-)

Patrice


----- Original Message -----
From: "drdesutter" <ddesutter@...>
To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Archive Status amd Song Request (Piggy Wiggy Woo)


> Hi,
>
> I am new to the group so I thought I would first ask if it is normal
> for the archive site to be down for this long a period (3 days). I
> started listening to music from it last week and it is really a great
> site for this type of music.
>
> My father is 87 years old and has started singing parts of these
> songs from memory of his younger days. He was frustrated at first
> since he could not remember all of the verses so when I connected him
> with this site, he was quite pleased.
>
> A recent song he has just begun reciting is Piggy Wiggy Woo. Don't
> ask me where he comes up with these since last week it was the Dipsy
> Doodle and Elmer's Tune.
>
> Is there another similar site where access to the old tunes are
> available? I have searched everywhere for Piggy Wiggy Woo and this
> site is the only 'hit' I have come across.
>
> Thanks for any help.
> Don DeSutter

#4538 From: "Scott Alexander" <scott@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2007 5:20 am
Subject: Re: Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
scottealexander
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It's working again...

-----Original Message-----
From: "Patrice Champarou" <patrice.champarou@...>
To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:37:12 +0200
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou

> AARGH! Bad search, they're here too :
>
> http://www.redhotjazz.com/bigeou.html
>
> Well, they will, as soon as the server works again... has anyone warn
> Scott
> privately yet?
>
> P.
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

#4539 From: RD Blackard <rdblackard@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2007 5:43 am
Subject: Re: Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
rdblackard
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Hi all!

   The site works for me, using RealPlayer.

   Two cents from
   Bob Blackard

Robert Smith <robert.smith@...> wrote:
Hello June?, Janine?

   Normally you can listen to all 17 of Esther's recorded songs by going to the
Red Hot Jazz site at:
   http://www.redhotjazz.com/bigeou.html
   but at the moment the site music server is not working, but you can read about
her and her records.

When the server is working again you can listen to her music if you  have Real
Player. If not, there are directions on the site for  obtaining Real Player free
of charge.

   Regards

   Bob Smith

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#4540 From: lmme2010 <lmme2001@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2007 6:04 am
Subject: RE : Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
lmme2001
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ok ;-0 :-)


I saw the site but not the place to listen ; i'll visit again ; thank you very
much for your help

Janine
--- Robert Smith <robert.smith@...> a écrit :

> Hello June?, Janine?
>
> Normally you can listen to all 17 of Esther's recorded songs by going to the
Red Hot Jazz site
> at:
> http://www.redhotjazz.com/bigeou.html
> but at the moment the site music server is not working, but you can read about
her and her
> records.
>
> When the server is working again you can listen to her music if you have Real
Player. If not,
> there are directions on the site for obtaining Real Player free of charge.
>
> Regards
>
> Bob Smith
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



      
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#4541 From: "drdesutter" <ddesutter@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2007 2:46 am
Subject: Re: Archive Status amd Song Request (Piggy Wiggy Woo)
drdesutter
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Patrice -

Thanks for your reply.

I am not really interested in pirating any songs, just locating the
hard to find things that help my father remember his days when these
songs were popular.

He usually sings the songs without listening to the artists if he can
just remember the missing parts of the tunes & words. I am actually
amazed at how does this after so many years.

The archives have actually helped me understand the era of the music
at this time and relate to things he tells me about what was popular
where he lived (small farm town in Illinois).

Times seemed to be so much simplier then and the music really
reflects this if compared to the popular music of today. Songs like
Dipsy Doodle and Piggy Wiggy Woo were humorous and were easy for most
to memorize the song's lyrics and tune.

I am really enjoying this step back in time.

Thanks again for your reference and support.

By the way, the site is back up so all is well again!!!

Don




--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Patrice Champarou"
<patrice.champarou@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Don
>
> I think there is no "other" site. For clarity, I suppose I should
mention
> http://www.jazz-on-line.com/ (where you won't find Piggy Wiggy Woo
anyway)
> which offers nice samples, much better in sound quality than
Scott's, for
> the good reason that they were pirated from commercial records -
I've just
> listened to Leadbelly's Rock Island Line, directly robbed from
BGOCD403...
> anyone willing to pay his fees to the webmaster can download it
instead of
> buying the CD, but I won't!
>
> The purpose of the RedHotJazz archives is, I think, pedagogical in
the first
> place - plus the pleasure of listening, when it works - but
definitely not
> making money out of stolen material. Although Scott has been silent
for a
> while, I think I should add my word, as the owner/manager of this
group, to
> several recent posts sent by worried subscribers.
> The purpose of this group is to discuss pre-war jazz, and even if
the future
> of the Archives is part of our concerns I think the topic does not
extend to
> the many ways of copying, stealing and sharing soundfiles which a
restricted
> number of small companies still attempt to reissue. I am not going
to
> discuss the financial or moral issues of piracy and I'll gladly
keep my
> opinion private, I just think that, since our group is linked to
the
> RedHotJazz website and none else, such discussion would be off-
topic. Three
> days you said? OK, we saw worse, and still remained patient ;-)
>
> Patrice
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "drdesutter" <ddesutter@...>
> To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:17 PM
> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Archive Status amd Song Request (Piggy Wiggy
Woo)
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am new to the group so I thought I would first ask if it is
normal
> > for the archive site to be down for this long a period (3 days). I
> > started listening to music from it last week and it is really a
great
> > site for this type of music.
> >
> > My father is 87 years old and has started singing parts of these
> > songs from memory of his younger days. He was frustrated at first
> > since he could not remember all of the verses so when I connected
him
> > with this site, he was quite pleased.
> >
> > A recent song he has just begun reciting is Piggy Wiggy Woo. Don't
> > ask me where he comes up with these since last week it was the
Dipsy
> > Doodle and Elmer's Tune.
> >
> > Is there another similar site where access to the old tunes are
> > available? I have searched everywhere for Piggy Wiggy Woo and this
> > site is the only 'hit' I have come across.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> > Don DeSutter
>

#4542 From: lmme2010 <lmme2001@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2007 6:08 am
Subject: RE : Re: Esther Bigeou , miaou miaou
lmme2001
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merci

--- Scott Alexander <scott@...> a écrit :

> It's working again...

#4543 From: "Robert Smith" <robert.smith@...>
Date: Thu Aug 9, 2007 12:12 pm
Subject: To hear music on Red Hot Jazz Archive
jayaressno
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Dear Janine,

The titles you can listen to are coloured yellow. Just locate the mouse pointer
on the title you wish to hear and click. After a while the Real Player display
will appear and then the title will load and start to play.

Titles coloured white are not available, but are there for completeness.
Hopefully, some day, all titles will be coloured yellow.

Kind Regards

Bob


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#4544 From: "pdqblues" <PDQBlues@...>
Date: Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:09 pm
Subject: Art Davis; double bassist who played with jazz greats; 73
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http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070807/news_1m7davis.html

OBITUARY
Art Davis; double bassist who played with jazz greats; 73

ASSOCIATED PRESS

August 7, 2007

Art Davis, the renowned double bassist who played with John Coltrane
and other jazz greats, has died. He was 73.

Mr. Davis died of a heart attack July 29 at his home in Long Beach,
his son Kimaili Davis told the Los Angeles Times.

Mr. Davis was blacklisted in the 1970s for speaking up about racism in
the music industry, and he later earned a doctorate in clinical
psychology, balancing performance dates with appointments to see patients.

"He was adventurous with his approach to playing music," said pianist
Nate Morgan, who played with the elder Davis intermittently over the
past 10 years. "It takes a certain amount of integrity to step outside
the box and say, 'I like it here, and I'm going to hang here for a
while.' "

Known for his stunning and complete mastery of the instrument, Mr.
Davis was able to jump between genres. He played classical music with
the New York Philharmonic; was a member of the NBC, Westinghouse and
CBS orchestras; and played for Broadway shows.

The most enriching experience of his career was collaborating with
John Coltrane. Described by jazz critic Nat Hentoff as Coltrane's
favorite bassist, Mr. Davis performed on the saxophonist's albums
including "Ascension," Volumes 1 and 2 of "The Africa/Brass Sessions"
and "Ole Coltrane."

The two musicians met one night in the late 1950s at Small's Paradise,
a jazz club in Harlem.

Mr. Davis viewed his instrument as "the backbone of the band," one
that should "inspire the group by proposing harmonic information with
a certain sound quality and rhythmic impulses," Mr. Davis said in an
excerpt from So What magazine posted on his Web site.

By following his own advice, Mr. Davis' career flourished. He played
with a long and varied list of artists: Thelonious Monk; Duke
Ellington; Rahsaan Roland Kirk; Louis Armstrong; Judy Garland; John
Denver; the trio Peter, Paul and Mary; and Bob Dylan.

Mr. Davis began studying piano at age 5 in Harrisburg, Pa., where he
was born in 1933. By sixth grade, Mr. Davis studied the tuba in school
because it was the only instrument available, he said.

By 1951, he decided to make music his career. He chose the double
bass, believing it would allow more opportunities to make a living. At
age 17, he studied with the principal double bassist at the
Philadelphia Orchestra. But when he auditioned for his hometown's
symphony, the audition committee was so unduly harsh and demanding
that the conductor Edwin MacArthur questioned their objectivity.

"The answer was, 'Well, he's colored,' and there was silence," Mr.
Davis recalled in a 2002 article in Double Bassist magazine. "Finally
MacArthur burst out, 'If you don't want him, then you don't want me.'
So they quickly got together and accepted me."

After high school, Mr. Davis studied classical music on scholarship at
the Manhattan School of Music and the Juilliard School of Music. At
night he played jazz in New York clubs.

In the 1970s, his fortunes waned after he filed an unsuccessful
discrimination lawsuit against the New York Philharmonic. Like other
black musicians who challenged hiring practices, he lost work and
industry connections.

With less work coming his way, Mr. Davis returned to school and in
1981, earned a doctorate in clinical psychology from New York
University. For many years he was a practicing psychologist while also
working as a musician.

As a result of his lawsuit and protest, Mr. Davis played a key role in
the increased use of the so-called blind audition, in which musicians
are heard but not seen by those evaluating them, Hentoff said.

The accomplished musician also pioneered a fingering technique for the
bass and wrote "The Arthur Davis System for Double Bass."

Mr. Davis also wore the hat of university professor. He taught at the
University of California Irvine for two years. Most recently, Mr.
Davis was a part-time music instructor at Orange Coast College in
Costa Mesa.

Besides his son Kimaili, Mr. Davis is survived by another son and a
daughter.

(c) Copyright 2007 Union-Tribune Publishing Co. • A Copley Newspaper Site

#4545 From: tc <toddcoop@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:16 pm
Subject: Re: Art Davis; double bassist who played with jazz greats; 73
tnrc75
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Much love and respect.  R.I.P.

On 8/11/07, pdqblues <PDQBlues@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070807/news_1m7davis.html
>
>  OBITUARY
>  Art Davis; double bassist who played with jazz greats; 73
>
>  ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
>  August 7, 2007
>
>  Art Davis, the renowned double bassist who played with John Coltrane
>  and other jazz greats, has died. He was 73.
>
>  Mr. Davis died of a heart attack July 29 at his home in Long Beach,
>  his son Kimaili Davis told the Los Angeles Times.
>
>  Mr. Davis was blacklisted in the 1970s for speaking up about racism in
>  the music industry, and he later earned a doctorate in clinical
>  psychology, balancing performance dates with appointments to see patients.
>
>  "He was adventurous with his approach to playing music," said pianist
>  Nate Morgan, who played with the elder Davis intermittently over the
>  past 10 years. "It takes a certain amount of integrity to step outside
>  the box and say, 'I like it here, and I'm going to hang here for a
>  while.' "
>
>  Known for his stunning and complete mastery of the instrument, Mr.
>  Davis was able to jump between genres. He played classical music with
>  the New York Philharmonic; was a member of the NBC, Westinghouse and
>  CBS orchestras; and played for Broadway shows.
>
>  The most enriching experience of his career was collaborating with
>  John Coltrane. Described by jazz critic Nat Hentoff as Coltrane's
>  favorite bassist, Mr. Davis performed on the saxophonist's albums
>  including "Ascension," Volumes 1 and 2 of "The Africa/Brass Sessions"
>  and "Ole Coltrane."
>
>  The two musicians met one night in the late 1950s at Small's Paradise,
>  a jazz club in Harlem.
>
>  Mr. Davis viewed his instrument as "the backbone of the band," one
>  that should "inspire the group by proposing harmonic information with
>  a certain sound quality and rhythmic impulses," Mr. Davis said in an
>  excerpt from So What magazine posted on his Web site.
>
>  By following his own advice, Mr. Davis' career flourished. He played
>  with a long and varied list of artists: Thelonious Monk; Duke
>  Ellington; Rahsaan Roland Kirk; Louis Armstrong; Judy Garland; John
>  Denver; the trio Peter, Paul and Mary; and Bob Dylan.
>
>  Mr. Davis began studying piano at age 5 in Harrisburg, Pa., where he
>  was born in 1933. By sixth grade, Mr. Davis studied the tuba in school
>  because it was the only instrument available, he said.
>
>  By 1951, he decided to make music his career. He chose the double
>  bass, believing it would allow more opportunities to make a living. At
>  age 17, he studied with the principal double bassist at the
>  Philadelphia Orchestra. But when he auditioned for his hometown's
>  symphony, the audition committee was so unduly harsh and demanding
>  that the conductor Edwin MacArthur questioned their objectivity.
>
>  "The answer was, 'Well, he's colored,' and there was silence," Mr.
>  Davis recalled in a 2002 article in Double Bassist magazine. "Finally
>  MacArthur burst out, 'If you don't want him, then you don't want me.'
>  So they quickly got together and accepted me."
>
>  After high school, Mr. Davis studied classical music on scholarship at
>  the Manhattan School of Music and the Juilliard School of Music. At
>  night he played jazz in New York clubs.
>
>  In the 1970s, his fortunes waned after he filed an unsuccessful
>  discrimination lawsuit against the New York Philharmonic. Like other
>  black musicians who challenged hiring practices, he lost work and
>  industry connections.
>
>  With less work coming his way, Mr. Davis returned to school and in
>  1981, earned a doctorate in clinical psychology from New York
>  University. For many years he was a practicing psychologist while also
>  working as a musician.
>
>  As a result of his lawsuit and protest, Mr. Davis played a key role in
>  the increased use of the so-called blind audition, in which musicians
>  are heard but not seen by those evaluating them, Hentoff said.
>
>  The accomplished musician also pioneered a fingering technique for the
>  bass and wrote "The Arthur Davis System for Double Bass."
>
>  Mr. Davis also wore the hat of university professor. He taught at the
>  University of California Irvine for two years. Most recently, Mr.
>  Davis was a part-time music instructor at Orange Coast College in
>  Costa Mesa.
>
>  Besides his son Kimaili, Mr. Davis is survived by another son and a
>  daughter.
>
>  (c) Copyright 2007 Union-Tribune Publishing Co. • A Copley Newspaper Site
>
>

#4546 From: Hugh Morton <hughphoric@...>
Date: Mon Aug 13, 2007 6:05 pm
Subject: Jelly's Blues
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Only just got around to reading the Reich and Gaines book. Lots of interesting
stuff but some worrying errors that take the edge off the book. Such as:

King Oliver apparently recording Wolverine Blues;
KO CJB and others recording at Gennett with a microphone;
Morton seems to have recorded 'Pop' in 1928, apparently similar to Seattle
Hunch;
Louis Armstrong either Hot 5 or 7 recording Frog I More Rag.

Possibly the final issue is a reference to Potato Head Blues, which was
conceivably partly lifted from Frog I More, so there is some justification for
that. 'Pop' is obviously Pep, except that Pep has nothing (apart from structure)
to do with Seattle Hunch.. Otherwise, these are simple mistakes.

Any comments?

Hugh Crozier


----- Original Message ----
From: tc <toddcoop@...>
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 5:16:58 PM
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Art Davis; double bassist who played with jazz greats;
73


Much love and respect.  R.I.P.

On 8/11/07, pdqblues <PDQBlues@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070807/news_1m7davis.html
>
>  OBITUARY
>  Art Davis; double bassist who played with jazz greats; 73
>
>  ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
>  August 7, 2007
>
>  Art Davis, the renowned double bassist who played with John Coltrane
>  and other jazz greats, has died. He was 73..
>
>  Mr. Davis died of a heart attack July 29 at his home in Long Beach,
>  his son Kimaili Davis told the Los Angeles Times.
>
>  Mr. Davis was blacklisted in the 1970s for speaking up about racism in
>  the music industry, and he later earned a doctorate in clinical
>  psychology, balancing performance dates with appointments to see patients.
>
>  "He was adventurous with his approach to playing music," said pianist
>  Nate Morgan, who played with the elder Davis intermittently over the
>  past 10 years. "It takes a certain amount of integrity to step outside
>  the box and say, 'I like it here, and I'm going to hang here for a
>  while.' "
>
>  Known for his stunning and complete mastery of the instrument, Mr.
>  Davis was able to jump between genres. He played classical music with
>  the New York Philharmonic; was a member of the NBC, Westinghouse and
>  CBS orchestras; and played for Broadway shows.
>
>  The most enriching experience of his career was collaborating with
>  John Coltrane.. Described by jazz critic Nat Hentoff as Coltrane's
>  favorite bassist, Mr. Davis performed on the saxophonist's albums
>  including "Ascension," Volumes 1 and 2 of "The Africa/Brass Sessions"
>  and "Ole Coltrane."
>
>  The two musicians met one night in the late 1950s at Small's Paradise,
>  a jazz club in Harlem.
>
>  Mr. Davis viewed his instrument as "the backbone of the band," one
>  that should "inspire the group by proposing harmonic information with
>  a certain sound quality and rhythmic impulses," Mr. Davis said in an
>  excerpt from So What magazine posted on his Web site.
>
>  By following his own advice, Mr. Davis' career flourished. He played
>  with a long and varied list of artists: Thelonious Monk; Duke
>  Ellington; Rahsaan Roland Kirk; Louis Armstrong; Judy Garland; John
>  Denver; the trio Peter, Paul and Mary; and Bob Dylan.
>
>  Mr. Davis began studying piano at age 5 in Harrisburg, Pa., where he
>  was born in 1933. By sixth grade, Mr. Davis studied the tuba in school
>  because it was the only instrument available, he said.
>
>  By 1951, he decided to make music his career. He chose the double
>  bass, believing it would allow more opportunities to make a living. At
>  age 17, he studied with the principal double bassist at the
>  Philadelphia Orchestra. But when he auditioned for his hometown's
>  symphony, the audition committee was so unduly harsh and demanding
>  that the conductor Edwin MacArthur questioned their objectivity.
>
>  "The answer was, 'Well, he's colored,' and there was silence," Mr.
>  Davis recalled in a 2002 article in Double Bassist magazine. "Finally
>  MacArthur burst out, 'If you don't want him, then you don't want me.'
>  So they quickly got together and accepted me."
>
>  After high school, Mr. Davis studied classical music on scholarship at
>  the Manhattan School of Music and the Juilliard School of Music. At
>  night he played jazz in New York clubs.
>
>  In the 1970s, his fortunes waned after he filed an unsuccessful
>  discrimination lawsuit against the New York Philharmonic. Like other
>  black musicians who challenged hiring practices, he lost work and
>  industry connections.
>
>  With less work coming his way, Mr. Davis returned to school and in
>  1981, earned a doctorate in clinical psychology from New York
>  University. For many years he was a practicing psychologist while also
>  working as a musician.
>
>  As a result of his lawsuit and protest, Mr. Davis played a key role in
>  the increased use of the so-called blind audition, in which musicians
>  are heard but not seen by those evaluating them, Hentoff said.
>
>  The accomplished musician also pioneered a fingering technique for the
>  bass and wrote "The Arthur Davis System for Double Bass."
>
>  Mr. Davis also wore the hat of university professor. He taught at the
>  University of California Irvine for two years. Most recently, Mr.
>  Davis was a part-time music instructor at Orange Coast College in
>  Costa Mesa.
>
>  Besides his son Kimaili, Mr. Davis is survived by another son and a
>  daughter.
>
>  (c) Copyright 2007 Union-Tribune Publishing Co. • A Copley Newspaper Site
>
>



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#4547 From: "john schott" <john@...>
Date: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: Jelly's Blues
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Regarding the Reich and Gaines Morton bio: The American writer and guitarist
Duck Baker really ripped the book in a review and author exchange published,
I believe, in Jazz Times (possibly Coda?). Listed many factual errors,
errors of interpretation, as well as seeming ignorance of existing
scholarship on Morton.

Still, I have the book and consult it from time to time. Bob Mielke, the
venerable trombonist, told me he greatly appreciated the chapter on Chicago
and the Melrose scene in the teens and twenties.

The world awaits a book that could weave together recent Morton scholarship
(Gushee, Meddings, etc.), archival research (Russell, Hogan archives, etc.),
vaudville/show business history, a nuanced account of shifting American
racial identities, an balanced evaluation of Lomax, and - too much to hope
for? - a great ear for the MUSIC.

Morton is THE great story. The story has a shitty ending, true, and Morton
was often a pretty unlikable guy - read those anti-Semitic letters to Carew,
circa 1939! - do Reich and Gaines even mention these? - but the span of his
life, and the great visionary music, are "beyond comparison."

John Schott

#4548 From: "pdqblues" <PDQBlues@...>
Date: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:27 pm
Subject: George Melly; British jazz singer; 80
pdqblues
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At the risk of seemingly like the Grim Reaper, I post these obituaries
of those associated with historical jazz because there are so few of
these figures of jazz left.  I also hope some interesting and useful
information can be gleaned from these obituaries.

My apologies to those who are uninterested or who feel these posts are
off topic.

Paul


http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070711/news_1m11melly.html

OBITUARY
George Melly; British jazz singer; 80

ASSOCIATED PRESS

July 11, 2007

George Melly, a flamboyant, gravel-voiced jazz singer, critic and
raconteur, died Thursday, his wife said. He was 80.

Though suffering from lung cancer and dementia, Mr. Melly continued
performing nearly until the end. He gave his last concert June 10. He
died at home in London, Diana Melly said.

Mr. Melly was noted for loud suits, louder ties and the image he
cultivated of a hard-drinking throwback to the Jazz Age.

After his navy service in World War II, he relished the life of a
peripatetic musician. "Hard drinking and squalid digs, but absolutely
no regrets," he once recalled.

Mr. Melly gave up the musician's life in 1962 to concentrate on
writing about surrealist art and working as a music and theater critic.

In 1974, he went back on the road with John Chilton's Feet-warmers.

In addition to his wife, Mr. Melly is survived by his son, daughter,
stepdaughter and four grandchildren.

#4549 From: David Richoux <tubaman@...>
Date: Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: George Melly; British jazz singer; 80
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Mere minutes before I got your e-mail I was just starting to read a
used copy of "Mellymobile" (by George Melly, 1982 with dust jacket
art by "Trog" - Wally Fawkes) that I had recently bought on Amazon.
His description of the Trad Jazz scene in the 1950-1970s UK is
hilarious!

While I was on a UK tour in the 1990s I picked up a LP by John
Chilton's Feet-Warmers in 1972 called "Nuts" (along with some other
fun records by the Pigsty Hill Light Orchestra jug band and others.)
There is a great picture ( I assume it is one of George) on the back,
with the caption "Wouldn't this photograph make a beautiful
enlargement?" I had no idea of what I was getting - just bought it
based on the picture and song selection... I was not disappointed!

Humor and Jazz = Hokum
(and that is a good thing!)
Dave Richoux

On Aug 14, 2007, at 3:27 PM, pdqblues wrote:

> At the risk of seemingly like the Grim Reaper, I post these obituaries
> of those associated with historical jazz because there are so few of
> these figures of jazz left.  I also hope some interesting and useful
> information can be gleaned from these obituaries.
>
> My apologies to those who are uninterested or who feel these posts are
> off topic.
>
> Paul
>

#4550 From: "David Brown" <johnhaleysims@...>
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 8:37 am
Subject: RE: George Melly; British jazz singer; 80
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A  younger Melly can be read on the British jazz scene in 'Owning Up' 1965.

Now republished as part of an autobiographical trilogy also entitled 'Owning
Up'.

Thoroughly recommended wonderful account of Melly, the music and humanity.

Dave




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#4551 From: lmme2010 <lmme2001@...>
Date: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:14 am
Subject: RE :
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thank you very much ,with real audio ,i finally heard 17 Esther Bigeou songs :-)
, as said an
inlove , passionnated for blues  friend , it seems very campagne , work songs , 
old , melodies ;
her voice is simallary to Billie ; nore than Bessis vey differente ;

june


      
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#4552 From: Olivier Douville <douvilleolivier@...>
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:34 pm
Subject: <aucun objet>
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Hello,

I would like to know where i could get pictures of Jimmy O' Bryant and
records by the pianist sugar underwood. thanks a lot.

Olivier Douville


22, rue de la Tour d'Auvergne 75009 Paris France
tel :    0336 77 69 24 51

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#4553 From: Howard Rye <howard@...>
Date: Thu Aug 16, 2007 5:11 pm
Subject: Re: O'Bryant/Underwood
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on 16/8/07 16:34, Olivier Douville at douvilleolivier@... wrote:

>Hello,

>I would like to know where i could get pictures of Jimmy O' Bryant

There is a photo of Jimmy O'Bryant in the booklet to Frog DGF51 "Jimmy
O'Bryant, Mystery Man of jazz"

  >and
>records by the pianist sugar underwood. thanks a lot.

Sugar Underwood's accompaniments to the Jacksonville Harmony Trio are
included in "Florida Rhythm" (Jazz Oracle BDW8011). The piano solos are  in
"Piano Blues Vol. 4 1923-1928 (Document DOCD5336). I feel sure there must be
a John R.T. Davies dubbing of the solos somewhere but I can't locate it at
the moment.

Olivier Douville
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tel :    0336 77 69 24 51

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