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#7956 From: "serapion@..." <serapion@...>
Date: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:12 pm
Subject: Re: King David's Jug Band Info
serapion...
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See
Going to Cincinnati: A History of the Blues in the Queen City (The Greater
Cincinnati Bicentennial History) by Steven C Tracy

If this link doesn't work try googling

Cincinnati stovepipe

It was from the same volume, sampled in Google Books, that I first found out
about the legendary Jesse James of LONESOME DAY BLUES.

All the recordings of Stovepipe No. 1 are on a two-CD set I once picked up at a
felicitously preposterous price, aka dirt cheap, from either amazon or ebay.

http://books.google.com/books?id=OGyWw-M5wFsC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=stovepipe+No.1++\
cincinnati&source=bl&ots=4fCkg8CjSI&sig=8SDBxILFRvJ6zCFLXYG06W2QeBo&hl=en&ei=qnV\
QS57yFpq60gSxkvyxCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CBsQ6AEwCA#v=one\
page&q=stovepipe%20No.1%20%20cincinnati&f=false

--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <cjtobias1@...> wrote:
> I've searched and searched and could not find one picture or any information
on the members of King David's Jug Band. Am I searching in vain or is there
something out there? Cheers!

#7957 From: CJ Tobias <cjtobias1@...>
Date: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: R: King David's Jug Band Info
skatevegan23
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Thanks for the info. Anything helps in my questing for the identity of these
elusive characters.
-Kasper


On 1/15/10 2:06 AM, "levi.marco@..." <levi.marco@...> wrote:

>
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>
> I've searched and searched and could not find one picture or any information
> on the members of King David's Jug Band. Am I searching in vain or is there
> something out there? Cheers!
>
>> >  Hello. I've found this poor information in Brian Rust's Discography:
>
> KING DAVID'S JUG BAND
>
> Stovepipe No. 1 (Samuel Jones), v, stovepipe / King David (believed to be a
> pseudonym for David Crockett), g /
> md / 2 unknown v added*. Atlanta, December 11, 1930.
> 404664-A What's That Tastes Like Gravy?
> OK 8913
> 404665-A Rising Sun Blues
> OK 8913
> 404666-B Sweet Potato Blues
> OK 8901
> 404667-A *Tear It Down - no k used
> OK 8861
> 404668-A I Can Deal Worry
> OK 8901
> 404669-A *Georgia Bo Bo - 2 jugs used
> OK 8861
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> BEST REGARDS.
> MARCO
>
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#7958 From: Howard Rye <howard@...>
Date: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:50 pm
Subject: Frog Blues & Jazz Annual
howardrye
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The Frog Blues & Jazz Annual, No. 1, edited by Paul Swinton, which it had
been hoped to publish before Christmas, has now appeared. The editor placed
my author's copies in my hands yesterday. ISBN is 978-0-9564717-0-3. It's no
doubt being sold on the Frog website. (I have of course no financial
interest or I would not be posting this.)

It will interest a lot of members of this list. Amongst much else, there are
major research aricles by Alex van der Tuuk on the Graves Brothers and on
Paramount, and by Paul Swinton himself on Arnold Wiley including material
from the diaries of Irene Wiley, and discographical pieces on Thomas Morris
and "Big Charlie Thomas" by Richard Rains. Not everyone will agree with the
last two pieces. Also very striking is a reprint from a Montgomery, Alabama
newspaper of Lillian Goodner's reminiscenses.

Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
howard@...
Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098

#7959 From: "serapion@..." <serapion@...>
Date: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:21 pm
Subject: Re: R: King David's Jug Band Info
serapion...
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apologies, I see my previous mail didn't as expected carry my signature -- or
indeed include a link to the CD

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cincinnati-Blues-Various-Artists/dp/B00005AKN3/ref=sr_1_\
2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263654864&sr=8-2

all the very best,
Robert R. Calder







--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, "levi.marco@..." <levi.marco@...> wrote:
>
> I've searched and searched and could not find one picture or any information
on the members of King David's Jug Band. Am I searching in vain or is there
something out there? Cheers!
>
> >  Hello. I've found this poor information in Brian Rust's Discography:
>
> KING DAVID'S JUG BAND
>
> Stovepipe No. 1 (Samuel Jones), v, stovepipe / King David (believed to be a
pseudonym for David Crockett), g /
> md / 2 unknown v added*. Atlanta, December 11, 1930.
> 404664-A What's That Tastes Like Gravy?
> OK 8913
> 404665-A Rising Sun Blues
> OK 8913
> 404666-B Sweet Potato Blues
> OK 8901
> 404667-A *Tear It Down - no k used
> OK 8861
> 404668-A I Can Deal Worry
> OK 8901
> 404669-A *Georgia Bo Bo - 2 jugs used
> OK 8861
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> BEST REGARDS.
> MARCO
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

#7960 From: "levi.marco@..." <levi.marco@...>
Date: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:47 pm
Subject: R: Re: R: King David's Jug Band Info
marcolevi12
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>  Thank you for posting this link.

All the best.

Marco Levi






apologies, I see my previous mail didn't as expected carry my signature -- or
indeed include a link to the CD
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cincinnati-Blues-Various-Artists/dp/B00005AKN3/ref=sr_1_\
2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263654864&sr=8-2all the very best, Robert R.
Calder






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#7961 From: Richard Havers <rhavers1@...>
Date: Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:52 pm
Subject: Re: Frog Blues & Jazz Annual
rhavers
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[moderator's apologies for the delay, but why did this message only show up
today without warning? I'll never konw - Patrice]

Howard, I received mine yesterday. It is a great piece of work. I decided to
have a quick look through it last night and two hours later I surfaced. I
commend it to all list members.

Cheers

Richard


On 16 Jan 2010, at 13:50, Howard Rye wrote:

> The Frog Blues & Jazz Annual, No. 1, edited by Paul Swinton, which it had
> been hoped to publish before Christmas, has now appeared. The editor placed
> my author's copies in my hands yesterday. ISBN is 978-0-9564717-0-3. It's no
> doubt being sold on the Frog website. (I have of course no financial
> interest or I would not be posting this.)
>
> It will interest a lot of members of this list. Amongst much else, there are
> major research aricles by Alex van der Tuuk on the Graves Brothers and on
> Paramount, and by Paul Swinton himself on Arnold Wiley including material
> from the diaries of Irene Wiley, and discographical pieces on Thomas Morris
> and "Big Charlie Thomas" by Richard Rains. Not everyone will agree with the
> last two pieces. Also very striking is a reprint from a Montgomery, Alabama
> newspaper of Lillian Goodner's reminiscenses.
>
> Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
> howard@...
> Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098
>
>



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#7962 From: Agustin Perez Gasco <ekebbbapg@...>
Date: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:51 am
Subject: ODJB - Victor 18255
ekebbbapg
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Dear list

Without dealing with the knotty issue of ODJB's Victor 18255 actually being the
first jazz put on record, this post may be of interest for you:

http://thereisjazzbeforetrane.blogspot.com/2010/01/victor-18255-first-jazz-recor\
d.html

Best regards,
Agustín Pérez 
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#7963 From: "Veniero Molari" <simplex.molari@...>
Date: Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:48 pm
Subject: Re: ODJB - Victor 18255
veniero_molari
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Thank you heartly for the super welcome ODJB reference.I tried in vain to
leave my comment,but the system requires  a name that I do not know.
Veniero Molari
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From: "Agustin Perez Gasco" <ekebbbapg@...>
To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] ODJB - Victor 18255


Dear list

Without dealing with the knotty issue of ODJB's Victor 18255 actually being
the first jazz put on record, this post may be of interest for you:

http://thereisjazzbeforetrane.blogspot.com/2010/01/victor-18255-first-jazz-recor\
d.html

Best regards,
Agustín Pérez
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#7964 From: Agustin Perez Gasco <ekebbbapg@...>
Date: Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:11 am
Subject: Re: ODJB - Victor 18255
ekebbbapg
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Thanks for the kind words, Veniero.

If the blog doesn't allow you to leave comments as "anonymous", send them to me
and I will insert them with your reference.

Best regards,
Agustín Pérez 
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From: Veniero Molari <simplex.molari@...>
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 6:48:45 PM
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] ODJB - Victor 18255

 
Thank you heartly for the super welcome ODJB reference.I tried in vain to
leave my comment,but the system requires a name that I do not know.
Veniero Molari
----- Original Message -----
From: "Agustin Perez Gasco" <ekebbbapg@yahoo. es>
To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] ODJB - Victor 18255

Dear list

Without dealing with the knotty issue of ODJB's Victor 18255 actually being
the first jazz put on record, this post may be of interest for you:

http://thereisjazzb eforetrane. blogspot. com/2010/ 01/victor- 18255-first-
jazz-record. html

Best regards,
Agustín Pérez
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#7965 From: "tonw2003" <tonw2003@...>
Date: Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:17 pm
Subject: JC Cobb/Jimmy Wade test pressing
tonw2003
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I'm looking for information on a vinyl test pressing of JC Cobb - Endurance
Stomp (A take) and Jimmy Wade - Mississippi Wobble,  I assuming it was made for
a compilation of some sort but I would appreciate any information from the
people here..

#7966 From: Nick Dellow <nick.dellow@...>
Date: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:37 pm
Subject: Re: JC Cobb/Jimmy Wade test pressing
nick.dellow
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I have a copy of this white label vinyl test pressing. Both sides are master
pressings and both have been reissued on various CDs.

This is one of a batch of such vinyl masters that were pressed up (John R.T.
had a number of copies of each one); they still surface in auction lists
from time to time. Sorry that I can't be of more help than this.

Nick


2010/1/23 tonw2003 <tonw2003@...>

>
>
> I'm looking for information on a vinyl test pressing of JC Cobb - Endurance
> Stomp (A take) and Jimmy Wade - Mississippi Wobble, I assuming it was made
> for a compilation of some sort but I would appreciate any information from
> the people here..
>
>
>


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#7967 From: tony wilcox <tonw2003@...>
Date: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:56 pm
Subject: Re: JC Cobb/Jimmy Wade test pressing
tonw2003
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Thanks Nick -it sounds like there are a bunch of these floating around out
there, I appreciate the response.
 
Tony

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Nick Dellow <nick.dellow@...> wrote:


From: Nick Dellow <nick.dellow@...>
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] JC Cobb/Jimmy Wade test pressing
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 5:37 AM


I have a copy of this white label vinyl test pressing. Both sides are master
pressings and both have been reissued on various CDs.

This is one of a batch of such vinyl masters that were pressed up (John R.T.
had a number of copies of each one); they still surface in auction lists
from time to time. Sorry that I can't be of more help than this.

Nick


2010/1/23 tonw2003 <tonw2003@...>

>
>
> I'm looking for information on a vinyl test pressing of JC Cobb - Endurance
> Stomp (A take) and Jimmy Wade - Mississippi Wobble, I assuming it was made
> for a compilation of some sort but I would appreciate any information from
> the people here..
>
>
>


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#7968 From: "Randy Skretvedt" <forwardintothepast@...>
Date: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:41 pm
Subject: ODJB film from 1917
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Does anyone here know about a 1917 film called "The Good For Nothing," which
includes the ODJB (evidently minus Eddie Edwards) in its cast?  More information
from the Internet Movie Database is here:  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0008025/

If this film survives, I would imagine we would have seen clips from it in jazz
documentaries; it would certainly be fascinating to see, no matter how brief the
band's footage might be.

--Randy Skretvedt

#7969 From: Agustin Perez Gasco <ekebbbapg@...>
Date: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:58 am
Subject: Re: ODJB - Victor 18255
ekebbbapg
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Here's a collection of newspaper ads for Victor 18255:

http://thereisjazzbeforetrane.blogspot.com/2010/01/victor-18255-first-jazz-recor\
d-2.html

(one more on part #3)

Best regards,
Agustín Pérez
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From: Veniero Molari <simplex.molari@...>
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 6:48:45 PM
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] ODJB - Victor 18255

 
Thank you heartly for the super welcome ODJB reference.I tried in vain to
leave my comment,but the system requires a name that I do not know.
Veniero Molari
----- Original Message -----
From: "Agustin Perez Gasco" <ekebbbapg@yahoo. es>
To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogro ups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] ODJB - Victor 18255

Dear list

Without dealing with the knotty issue of ODJB's Victor 18255 actually being
the first jazz put on record, this post may be of interest for you:

http://thereisjazzb eforetrane. blogspot. com/2010/ 01/victor- 18255-first-
jazz-record. html

Best regards,
Agustín Pérez
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#7970 From: Linda Gold <lynegold@...>
Date: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:24 pm
Subject: ODJB film from 1917
lindazorakgold
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Here's a link to this film's listing on the TCM website. Not much more
information but there is a plot synopsis.
According to TCM it's not available on tape pr dvd.
http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=496010

Linda Gold
linda@...

#7971 From: "Michael" <Rader.Michael@...>
Date: Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:43 am
Subject: Savoy Bearcats
armstark2000
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Does anyone know if there is a photo of the Savoy Bearcats taken at around the
time of their recordings? I realise that there is a photo of a Bearcats-related
band on the cover of the Collectors Items LP, but this was taken some time
before the recordings and does not, for instance, show Carmelo Jarì (Jejo). By
the way, I know about the photo of the Leon Abbey band, published in Storyville
and Gene Fernett's "Swing Out", but it's rather difficult to make out Jarì, so
other photos would be appreciated.

Michael Rader
Karlsruhe, Germany

#7972 From: "hans.eekhoff" <oriole@...>
Date: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:24 am
Subject: Re: ODJB film from 1917
hans.eekhoff
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Apparently someone has taken the trouble to write that synopsis - which suggests
that the film still exists. Note that there is no mentioning here of the ODJB or
its members.
In the "Story Of The Original Dixieland Jazz Band" by H.O. Brunn, "The Good For
Nothing" is mentioned as a Chaplin Film - which it is definitely not.
A few years ago I read somewhere (I forget where) that somebody had seen the
film, and he reported that there is absolutely no trace of the ODJB or indeed
any band.
Hans Eekhoff


--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Linda Gold <lynegold@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to this film's listing on the TCM website. Not much more
information but there is a plot synopsis.
> According to TCM it's not available on tape pr dvd.
> http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=496010
>
> Linda Gold
> linda@...
>

#7973 From: Linda Gold <lynegold@...>
Date: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: ODJB film from 1917
lindazorakgold
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From what I was able to discover with the little research I did, there seems to
have been an earlier (1913) Chaplin film of the same name which is sometimes
confused with the one we are interested in. This may explain why the later film
is sometimes call "Jack, The Good For Nothing".

Linda Gold
linda@...

#7974 From: Mordechai Litzman <folke613@...>
Date: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:53 am
Subject: Re: Re: ODJB film from 1917 - this will not help
folke613
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http://www.archive.org/details/CC_1914_08_31_TheGoodforNothing

Here is a link to the movie from 1913 starring Charlie Chaplin. There is NOTHING
in this film about ODJB, and the film is mediocre. The background music added to
this film is nice, though.
As was said before, there seems to be another movie from 1917 with the same
name, but I have not been able to find a copy anywhere.




________________________________
From: hans.eekhoff <oriole@...>
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 2:24:11 AM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: ODJB film from 1917


Apparently someone has taken the trouble to write that synopsis - which suggests
that the film still exists. Note that there is no mentioning here of the ODJB or
its members.
In the "Story Of The Original Dixieland Jazz Band" by H.O. Brunn, "The Good For
Nothing" is mentioned as a Chaplin Film - which it is definitely not.
A few years ago I read somewhere (I forget where) that somebody had seen the
film, and he reported that there is absolutely no trace of the ODJB or indeed
any band.
Hans Eekhoff

--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogro ups.com, Linda Gold <lynegold@.. .> wrote:
>
> Here's a link to this film's listing on the TCM website. Not much more
information but there is a plot synopsis.
> According to TCM it's not available on tape pr dvd.
> http://www.tcm. com/tcmdb/ title.jsp? stid=496010
>
> Linda Gold
> linda@...
>







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#7975 From: reid1947@...
Date: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:40 am
Subject: Gertrude Perkins
reid1947
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Hi All
I have been playing some LP's inherited from my father,
one of which is a Folkways entitled JAZZ 2 "The Blues".
One of the tracks is by a singer Gertrude Perkins, called
"No Easy Rider Blues", recorded with unknown guitar and
tuba (as far as I can tell)in 1928.
Can anybody shed some light on her please, and on the track.
According to Frederic Ramsey Jr, this is the only track she
recorded.
Peter L. Reid

#7976 From: Bob Eagle <prof_hi_jinx@...>
Date: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:19 am
Subject: Re: Gertrude Perkins
prof_hi_jinx
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Peter, she also made "Gold Daddy Blues" at the same session. 
 
Both titles were composed by Hattie Burleson, who was a noted singer/ songwriter
and seems to have acted as a talent scout for Columbia.  The songs, recorded on
6 December 1927, were issued by Columbia #14313-D.
 
Accompaniment was by Willie Tyson (p), Octave Gaspard (tu) and an unidentified
guitarist.  Hattie Hudson (=Burleson?) recorded immediately before Gertrude
(accompanied by Tyson) and singer/ guitarist Coley Jones recorded immediately
afterwards, so he is possibly the guitarist present.  (Alternatively, Sam
Harris from Coley's "Dallas String Band", may be the guitarist).
 
However Lillian Glinn had recorded a few days earlier with a similar group, and
it is possible that Gaspard and the guitarist may have been drawn from Frenchy's
String Band (who seem to be her backing from a session six months later). 
Billiken Johnson had also recorded the day after Glinn, with backing by Tyson
and Gaspard, so they appear to have been acting as a session group, somewhat
like Charlie Williamson and Will Shade in Memphis, and Don Albert in Texas.
 
Gaspard, who was born in Louisiana (you thought elsewhere?) in about 1870, was
living at Dallas in 1930.
 
Burleson's family lived near Dallas, and it's likely that Gertrude was living in
or near Dallas when recorded.
 
Bob

--- On Sun, 31/1/10, reid1947@... <reid1947@...> wrote:


From: reid1947@... <reid1947@...>
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Gertrude Perkins
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 31 January, 2010, 4:40 PM


 



Hi All
I have been playing some LP's inherited from my father,
one of which is a Folkways entitled JAZZ 2 "The Blues".
One of the tracks is by a singer Gertrude Perkins, called
"No Easy Rider Blues", recorded with unknown guitar and
tuba (as far as I can tell)in 1928.
Can anybody shed some light on her please, and on the track.
According to Frederic Ramsey Jr, this is the only track she
recorded.
Peter L. Reid








      
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#7977 From: Howard Rye <howard@...>
Date: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:33 am
Subject: Re: Re: ODJB film from 1917
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The 1917 film is on the Internet Movie Data Base. It was apparently directed
by Carlyle Blackwell. The cast list given includes the ODJB, but the IMDb is
not a primary source and they have just copied this from somewhere. It is
completely clear that the Charlie Chaplin film is a red herring and someone
has at sometime just put two and two together and made seven by conflating
the two films (in fact the guilty party seems to have been the French
researcher Jean-Christophe Averty). The 1917 film is also known as Jack, The
Good for Nothing.

The belief that the ODJB is in it comes from correspondence between Nick
LaRocca himself and Jean-Christophe Averty in 1956-7. LaRocca remebered the
band being filmed at Reisenweber¹s for this film. Averty wrote this up in
Cahiers de Jazz No. 4 (1961). It appears LaRocca also told him that Charlie
Chaplin was a great fan of the band and often came to Reisenweber¹s.
Caramba! Chaplin is in the film.

Jean-Roland Hippenmeyer, whose Jazz sur Films (Yverdon, 1971) is the source
of this data, has been misled by this and devotes space to proving that
Chaplin¹s film career is incompatible with him being in this film. It does
survive. Its Library of Congress pressmark is LU11783, according to
Hippenmeyer. Copyright was registered with the deposited film on 7 December
1917. This could easily be followed up by someone more interested in the
ODJB than me! A good place to start might be Averty¹s original article to
see exactly what he says that La Rocca said. Another good place to look for
data would be the American Film Institute Catalog. They may well have a
copy.

Bur forget about Chaplin.

Historically there hasn¹t been much interest in jazz musicians appearing in
silent films. It¹s only quite recently that anyone has started to take much
notice. There are numerous Hollywood effusions from the 20s in which
identifiable jazz groups are used to set night-club scenes.





on 31/01/2010 00:53, Mordechai Litzman at folke613@... wrote:

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>
>
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> http://www.archive.org/details/CC_1914_08_31_TheGoodforNothing
>
> Here is a link to the movie from 1913 starring Charlie Chaplin. There is
> NOTHING in this film about ODJB, and the film is mediocre. The background
> music added to this film is nice, though.
> As was said before, there seems to be another movie from 1917 with the same
> name, but I have not been able to find a copy anywhere.
>
> ________________________________
> From: hans.eekhoff <oriole@... <mailto:oriole%40zonnet.nl> >
> To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com <mailto:RedHotJazz%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, January 30, 2010 2:24:11 AM
> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Re: ODJB film from 1917
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> Apparently someone has taken the trouble to write that synopsis - which
> suggests that the film still exists. Note that there is no mentioning here of
> the ODJB or its members.
> In the "Story Of The Original Dixieland Jazz Band" by H.O. Brunn, "The Good
> For Nothing" is mentioned as a Chaplin Film - which it is definitely not.
> A few years ago I read somewhere (I forget where) that somebody had seen the
> film, and he reported that there is absolutely no trace of the ODJB or indeed
> any band.
> Hans Eekhoff
>
> --- In RedHotJazz@yahoogro ups.com, Linda Gold <lynegold@.. .> wrote:
>> >
>> > Here's a link to this film's listing on the TCM website. Not much more
>> information but there is a plot synopsis.
>> > According to TCM it's not available on tape pr dvd.
>> > http://www.tcm. com/tcmdb/ title.jsp? stid=496010
>> >
>> > Linda Gold
>> > linda@...
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#7978 From: "Randy Skretvedt" <forwardintothepast@...>
Date: Sun Jan 31, 2010 5:13 pm
Subject: Re: ODJB film from 1917
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Thank you, all, for the information.  There are no Chaplin films from 1913, as
his first film, "Making a Living," was released February 2, 1914.  "The Good for
Nothing" is a reissue title for his Keystone comedy "His New Profession,"
released August 31, 1914.

The film with the possible ODJB connection has never appeared in any Chaplin
filmographies, so if he does in fact appear in it, it would be of interest to
Chaplin fans.  This is unlikely, however, because if the ODJB footage was shot
at Resenweber's in New York in 1917, it would be during a time when Chaplin was
busy in Los Angeles preparing his first film for the First National company. 
Chaplin was not in New York until April 1918, when he came there on a Liberty
Bond tour.

#7979 From: Michael Rader <Rader.Michael@...>
Date: Wed Feb 3, 2010 9:10 pm
Subject: THe Frog Blues and Jazz Annual No. 1
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The Frog Blues and Jazz Annual has been mentioned a couple of times already, but
apart from general endorsements, we have seen little on appearance and content,
so this is my own impression and opinion:
Ever since Laurie Wright decided to call it a day as the publisher of
Storyville, many readers, myself included, have hoped that some day some one
would be willing to close the gap. Well, in a nutshell, it looks as though the
Frog Jazz and Blues Annual might be closing that gap.
That said, this is a far more ambitious undertaking in terms of presentation
than “Storyville” ever was, or could have been. It is a 176-page large,
soft-covered book in full colour, profusely illustrated with photographs,
reproductions of record labels, sheet music covers and other ephemera, in
addition to a section of jazz portraits from photographs by Chris Powell, making
it a pleasure simply to browse without reading the text. The volume contains
articles of varying length on a range of topics from blues to hot jazz of the
1920s and 30s.
Much of the writing is original work especially for the volume, but there are
also pieces that have been published previously, such as an article on Sydney
(sic) Bechet from the Baltimore African American of June 1941 and an excerpt
from Fred Cox’s works on the Jug Bands of Louisville for “Storyville”. This
benefits from the appropriate illustrations inserted into the text. There is a
short snippet on Bernie Young from a forthcoming work by Chris Hillman,
presumably included, as was the Cox piece, to promote forthcoming Frog CDs. The
longest articles are on blues and boogie related subjects including an article
by Paul Swinton himself on Arnold Wiley, best known as a solo pianist and
accompanist. But hold on: this piece is illustrated with a photo containing the
only known shot of Jimmy O’Bryant, which was reproduced on the cover of the
booklet of Frog’s Jimmy O’Bryant CD. O’Bryant isn’t the only person captured on
this posed action shot: beside a female singer with her face scratched out
(thought to be Arnold’s wife Irene), the photo also shows Arnold Wiley, Jasper
Taylor and Papa Charlie Jackson. The article suggests that it is in fact Wiley
and not Jimmy Blythe on the first session by the Washboard Wonders, so here’s a
link. John Collinson writes a piece on Boogie piano, starting with a discussion
of the mysterious Clay Custer recording of George W. Thomas’ “The Rocks”. An
article by Terry Heath investigates Henry “Ragtime Texas” Thomas and Alex van
Tuuk writes about the Grave brothers, two gospel performers associated with the
Mississippi Jook Band. The same author also investigates the Revival of
Paramount in 1935.  Chris Hillman puts repeat appearances with articles on Cab
Calloway and the Cotton Club and Old New Orleans Blues - recordings made in that
city in the 1920s -  and Howard Rye continues his writing from where he left off
in Storyville with a thoroughly researched essay on Opal Cooper, the Red Devils
and International Five. Joe Moore's Glimpse of the Past contains items on jazz
and blues from the contemporary press.
Howard Rye already hinted here that the two articles by Richard Rains might lead
to debate: in one he reinvestigates the work of Tom Morris, for some reason not
taking account of the recent article by K.B. Rau in “Names and Numbers”, in the
other, he revisits the legend of “Big Charlie Thomas”, a trumpeter identified
from circumstantial evidence by John R.T. Davies. His conclusion is bound to
lead to discussion, but I won’t spoil your reading by revealing all.
The major difference to Storyville is that this edition contains nothing on
“white” jazz or non-US jazz, apart from Chris Powell’s portrait of Sam Lanin
familiar to those owning the Lanin CD on Frog. The other portraits are similar
in style and might remind some of cartoonist R. Crumb’s portraits based on
photos. One portrait is of the mysterious Roger "Burn Down" Garnett who is
covered on the complementary CD with an unissued Library of Congress test. Blues
specialists might like to comment.
The CD serves mainly to illustrate the text of the annual and is not another
“Frog Spawn” although it does have the odd unissued track or elusive alternate
take. It is in the same kind of spirit as the CDs coming with John Tefteller’s
Blues Artwork Calendars and makes for entertaining listening even if you do have
most of the music. The CD has the additional benefit of fine audio restoration
work by Nick Dellow.
If you’ve been hesitating, I hope this encourages you to buy. If there is the
response this deserves, I’m sure that it will be the first of many.

P.S. I have no interest whatever in Frog, except as a satisfied customer.

Michael Rader, Karlsruhe, Germany
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#7980 From: "hans.eekhoff" <oriole@...>
Date: Thu Feb 4, 2010 8:36 am
Subject: Can anyone in this Forum identify these guys?
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Sylvester Ahola's home movies with shots of fellow musicians are now on YouTube
but with the exception of Rollini, Felline and Ahola himself no one has been
identified. Here is the clip (backed by a very nice almost 5 minute long version
of "The Pay Off" by the California Ramblers).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zmxNw26W0U

#7981 From: Agustin Perez Gasco <ekebbbapg@...>
Date: Sun Feb 7, 2010 11:58 pm
Subject: Black Europe Reissue Project
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This was posted in the last issue of VJM's Jazz & Blues Mart (#156,
Winter/Spring 2010):

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BLACK EUROPE REISSUE PROJECT
The first comprehensive documentation of the sound and images of
black entertainers in Europe
 
For this project we URGENTLY need to locate a great number of phonograph
cylinders, gramophone discs, film and photographs. For details please
check the EXCEL file:
http://www.lotz-verlag.de/Black_Europe_Wants.html
 
If you have any of these -or if you know where to look for them- please write
to:
 
Rainer E. Lotz
Rotdornweg 81
53177 Bonn, Germany
or email: raienr-lotz@...
 
All contributions will be fully acknowledged
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Best regards,
Agustín Pérez 
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#7982 From: <betsy@...>
Date: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:50 pm
Subject: Clara Smith
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Clara Smith will be honored in the first phase of the new Music Trail in
her hometown of Spartanburg SC. Can anyone tell me where we might find a
photograph of her? The ones on the internet are too low-res for the
signage.

Betsy Teter
Spartanburg SC

#7983 From: "nhemeter" <nhemeter@...>
Date: Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:28 pm
Subject: New Orleans Trad Jazz Camp for Adults
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New Orleans Traditional Jazz Camp

Hello Jazz Fans,

      We are very excited to announce the 1st Annual New Orleans Traditional Jazz
Camp for adults! Check out our website at www.neworleanstradjazzcamp.com. 
Please pass this information along to people who might be interested in this
unique opportunity to immerse themselves in a jazz camp in the city where it all
began. We also have a poster that can be printed from our website on the
registration page.

       On top of studying with some of New Orleans' finest musicians, there will
be opportunities to play on Bourbon Street, Preservation Hall, and for
qualifying students, the Satchmo SummerFest!  We hope you will join us in New
Orleans for a great time, terrific food and lots of "jammin".   Thank you in
advance for helping us make this a success.

As Louis Armstrong said: Red Beans and Ricely Yours,

Banu Gibson

Leslie Cooper

Nita Hemeter

www.neworleanstradjazzcamp.com

#7984 From: "paceyfoster" <libraryofvinyl@...>
Date: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:46 pm
Subject: Europe's Society Orchestra Animations
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I recently posted some animations of plates from the book Modern Dancing (1914)
by Irene and Vernon Castle which show Europe's Society Orchestra playing in the
background. They are at:

http://www.libraryofvinyl.org/?p=444

I am still trying to confirm the title of the film the plates came from and its
whereabouts. Any info on this amazing bit of footage would be greatly
appreciated.

#7985 From: Mordechai Litzman <folke613@...>
Date: Wed Feb 24, 2010 4:35 am
Subject: Tuba Karaoke
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Here is something to enliven the winter gloom! Come to think about it, if I
could play an instrument, say cornet, I would go down in my basement and play
along with Harry's Happy Four....
http://www.youtube.com/user/Morifa20#p/u/12/H3uGSUt_BLc

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