Hello, everybody. Thanks for all replies, and thanks especially to those who informed me about the listings in Rust and Lord, that was very valuable. So many...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 3, 2011 11:12 pm
Hi Andrew, It comes from Laurie Wright's book on "King" Oliver. He says that the source and date are unknown but that tit is from a printed copy, probably a...
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Andrew Homzy
homzy2000
Jun 3, 2011 5:33 pm
Hi Howard, Thank you for reviewing the material in the King Oliver books by Wright and Allen/Rust. I had read these fascinating books 40 years ago, turned on...
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Andrew Homzy
homzy2000
Jun 3, 2011 5:24 pm
Hi Marc, Thanks so much for the photos. Wonderful and revealing. I haven't seen them before. Where did copies of these photos first appear? Book, magazine,...
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Nigel Burlinson
nigelmaia
Jun 3, 2011 12:07 pm
Here's a site with 150,000 titles (including both of the tunes titled "LADY IN RED" and you CAN distinguish between the tune titles and the writers. ...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Jun 3, 2011 11:42 am
Hi folks, I have to agree with Marc to a large degree but I only use these sites as a memory jog (alzheimers setting in I expect) when...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 3, 2011 10:13 am
Hopefully you'll forgive me, Patrice. I'm a poor Mac user who expects everything to be obvious and so never reads instructions ;o) I have already uploaded the...
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Patrice Champarou
patrice_champ
Jun 3, 2011 10:08 am
Not edited since 2004... but to save you the pain of looking. Welcome to redhotjazz@yahoogroups.com ! Although it shares its name with the Red Hot Jazz...
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Patrice Champarou
patrice_champ
Jun 3, 2011 10:01 am
... From: lastofthebarons Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 11:41 AM To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Personnel differences within the KOCJB...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 3, 2011 9:41 am
Hi Andrew, I see that the attachment didn't come through. Are they not allowed on this discussion group? Best, Marc...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 3, 2011 9:33 am
As is http://www.allmusic.com/ but again there are the problems with many miss-identifications. The greatest problem appears to be where the same title for...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 3, 2011 9:24 am
Hi Andrew, Here it is. The copy I have is no great shakes to start off with so, consequently the scan can't be as good as that. Cheers, Marc ... [Non-text...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Jun 3, 2011 9:03 am
Ah yes Marc, I live in the ideal world of 1923 and KOCJB which all evidence suggests was recording under a minimum of white control. This was because, I ...
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Howard Rye
howardrye
Jun 3, 2011 8:12 am
I had been intending to observe that received wisdom is that recording in the early 1920s was to an overwhelming extent music publisher driven, but Andrew...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Jun 3, 2011 7:19 am
Hi Folks, Re tune titles and composers etc - this site is a big help : http://www.a-z-oldsongs-songwriters-years.com/ . The list...
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Andrew Homzy
homzy2000
Jun 3, 2011 2:02 am
Hi Marc, I'd like to see the newspaper photograph of the King Oliver Band on a truck advertising their OKeh recording of "Where Did You Stay Last Night". That...
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Andrew Homzy
homzy2000
Jun 3, 2011 2:00 am
Hello Marc, I never said - or dreamed - that there was equity between blacks & whites. I only meant that there was collaboration which did benefit black...
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Andrew Homzy
homzy2000
Jun 3, 2011 1:34 am
There are a lot of sheet music sellers on eBay. And do a google search. But, unless you really want original copies, there is a lot available from on-line...
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Richard Lund
bootsy_rir
Jun 3, 2011 12:30 am
Hi. I just have to jijack this thread real quick to simply ask this: Where can you actually get sheet music from the 20's??? A band in Munich has quite a list...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 2, 2011 11:39 pm
Hi Andrew, I'm sure that you're right. Blacks and whites did work more closely in music publishing than in other endeavours during the 1920s. But surely that...
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Andrew Homzy
homzy2000
Jun 2, 2011 9:17 pm
Hi Marc, I'm sure many of us don't see it your way. Here's my way - your mileage may vary - Oliver had a successful group in Chicago. The "little" recording...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 2, 2011 8:47 pm
I'm afraid, David, that you live in an ideal world where Mr. Charlie realised that the black musicians had a monopoly on what was real jazz and that the "Grey...
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ikey100
Jun 2, 2011 7:03 pm
... Absoulutely agreed, Robert, but you've introduced a moniker that was not mentioned previously! And I'm not sure why, since we were discussing "King Louis...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Jun 2, 2011 5:57 pm
The first seven CJB sessions contain no less than 18 original compositions by Oliver or members of the band against 10 by other composers. That is a remarkably...
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serapion@...
serapion...
Jun 2, 2011 9:59 am
There was an interview with the Jonah Jones quartet in Jazz Journal decades ago. I remember it for Jonah's story of how he was ill and went to his doctor and...
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Robert
robertgreenw...
Jun 2, 2011 8:12 am
Hooray! We are back in the material world for once. I agree with Marc. As for Dodds' solo on this version of Dippermouth, even the greatest of players can have...
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lastofthebarons
Jun 1, 2011 9:56 pm
The actual reason for the duplication is much more mundane. The recordings were for two different companies, Gennett and OKeh. Did he have a choice in what he...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Jun 1, 2011 7:31 pm
Hi Folks, I see this as a thoroughly plausible explanation. King Joe was all for trying out new things and perhaps thought it...
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Andrew Taylor
agrahamt2
Jun 1, 2011 3:36 pm
Ditto on the "First Lady of Jazz" book, or whatever the Lil Hardin book was called. Academics sometimes try to make a name for themselves by creating a new ...
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Bob Smith
jayaressno
Jun 1, 2011 1:00 pm
I see that no-one has named the real reason for Dodds' apparently lack-lustre playing on the second recording of Dipper Mouth Blues. The real reason is that...
