I am not quite sure how I just contrived to send to the list a draft contribution to an old debate which I didn't send at the time. I don't remember why I...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Aug 30, 2011 7:28 am
Hi Folks, I have to agree that there are a number of references to Buster Bailey being a regular with Oliver's CJB in 1923/24 but we...
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Nick Dellow
charlton_nd
Aug 30, 2011 10:48 am
Charles Delaunay gives the recording date as "15/16 October 1923" in his discography, but it isn't clear from this if he means 15th AND 16th or 15th OR 16th....
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Nick Dellow
charlton_nd
Aug 30, 2011 11:00 am
Correction ! - the recording dates in "King Joe Oliver" (Allen and Rust) are given as 15th for "Chattanooga Stomp" and "London (Cafe) Blues", and 16th for...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Aug 30, 2011 12:53 pm
Hi Folks, Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â I believe that at one point Buster Bailey used a metal clarinet and at times with the John Kirby band he used an Albert...
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silverleafjb
Aug 30, 2011 1:04 pm
snip> What I previously observed was that the unmistakable sweet sound -- tone -- ... I'm going out on a limb here, but it is within the realm of possibility...
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silverleafjb
Aug 30, 2011 1:15 pm
ALAN BOND <alan_bond@...> wrote: snip> I would, however, disagree with the conclusions regarding Buster Bailey. His technical ability was far in advance of...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 1, 2011 8:52 am
Many thanks Nick for the definitive discographical overview and history. You put your finger right on the nub -- why -- what source was there for -- the...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Sep 1, 2011 11:06 am
Hi Folks, That sounds like a reasonable theory to me and I don't think we are going to get any closer unless new information...
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Howard Rye
howardrye
Sep 1, 2011 11:19 am
This is a disagreement caused merely by failure to define terms. Bailey was unquestionably technically superior in 1940 but does this make him a better jazz...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Sep 1, 2011 12:12 pm
Hi Folks, Answer - YES TTFN - 007 ... From: Howard Rye <howard@...> Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Re: Noone on...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 1, 2011 2:46 pm
Right Howard There are indeed a few late examples of Buster playing a good blues but his normal blues mode was rather too glib. However, this style totally...
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Michael
maullman45
Sep 1, 2011 3:36 pm
Not exactly on the topic, but I heard an interview with Buster Bailey on WDET radio. It must have been late 60's. The one thing I particularly remember is that...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Sep 1, 2011 3:59 pm
Hi Michael, I think he was probably right but I can name quite a few (including Buster Bailey) who were not so far...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Sep 1, 2011 4:09 pm
Hi Folks, If you want blues feeling from a clarinet player look no further than Russell Procope or Barney Bigard. The former is on...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 1, 2011 4:25 pm
Alan If it is Procope on 'Deep Creek' I think the clarinet solo was written out by Morton because it is far more convincing blues than anything else he ever ...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 1, 2011 4:34 pm
Michael That's very interesting and not anything elsewhere documented as far as I know. That would not however mean that Buster did not consider himself ...
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Andrew Taylor
agrahamt2
Sep 1, 2011 5:03 pm
Curious about Ray Crane, I found this Youtube video of Bruce Turner's Jump Band, which I believe features Crane on trumpet (source ...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Sep 1, 2011 8:10 pm
Hi Andrew, Nice stuff by the Bruce Turner band but it's John Chilton on Trumpet and it's a clip from the film 'Living...
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Andrew Taylor
agrahamt2
Sep 1, 2011 8:35 pm
Pleasant surprise for me as an Armstrong buff, enjoyed Chilton's excellent (as I recall) biography of Armstrong /Louis: The Louis Armstrong Story/ (with Max...
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ALAN BOND
alan504450
Sep 1, 2011 8:45 pm
Hi Andrew, I have a Sandy Brown LP with Ray Crane on it which I may be able to set up as a sound file of some sort. I...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 2, 2011 3:51 pm
*This is Dave -- Robert sent this to me instead of to the group by mistake and, as he is away, has asked me to fwd to the group. I see a view that Russell...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 2, 2011 4:19 pm
Many thanks Robert for such a substantial and interesting post. I guess our opposite opinions on the stature of Procope are based to a large extent on our...
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serapion@...
serapion...
Sep 4, 2011 8:50 pm
Ken Mathieson -- veteran drummer and leader of the impressive CJO n Scotland, tells me when he was talking to Harold Dejan a number of years ago Dejan told him...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 12, 2011 9:55 am
Hi Robert And excuse late reply -- I've been away. That Procope studied with Tio is extremely interesting and, as far as I can tell, unreported elsewhere. It...
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lastofthebarons
Sep 12, 2011 3:15 pm
I've got to say that I agree with Dave Green, not Dave Brown regarding Benny Waters' tone on clarinet. I saw him many times from the 70s to the 80s and was...
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David Brown
dvd.brown
Sep 12, 2011 4:29 pm
Hi Marc Quite prepared to believe you and Dave Green but can't find any Waters on clarinet. Quite a lot Youtube but alto. Anybody point at some online or...
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ikey100
Sep 13, 2011 3:32 pm
Further to the recent Noone and Procope thread, I'm researching the brass band cornetist and singer U.S.G. Patterson, and thanks to Seroff and Abbott's books,...
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ROBERT R. CALDER
serapion...
Sep 13, 2011 8:23 pm
1a. Re: Noone and Procope and Benny Waters Posted by: "lastofthebarons" lastofthebarons@... lastofthebarons Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:15 am (PDT) Strictly...
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stevenabrams78jazz
stevenabrams...
Sep 13, 2011 9:11 pm
HI DAVID: You might find Ben Waters on clarinet with King Oliver's Dixie Syncopators especially perhaps TIN ROOF blues. He also played with Clarence Williams...
