Listened again to all the McQuaid Half Way House recordings. Really refreshing
and wonderful playing. It is as if a veil was lifted off the old originals.
Extremely enjoyable! Jazz lives.....




________________________________
  From: "levi.marco@..." <levi.marco@...>
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 5:39 AM
Subject: R: [RedHotJazz] Just Pretending New Orleans 1928


 

I Love this really nice an historically correct Band. Incidentally I'm a
banjoist and I here appreciate the Spat's job so much.Marco

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbSxOT1R5qs&list=UU8Xj_3Djn97bzsjGwKyOBqw&\
;index=1    (Music starts at 1:22)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQ6smCv03i0    (Original recording from 1928)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbdz_PTkoU    (Another "take" so that u can
appreciate the greatness of this band and how well they re-create the jazz scene
of NO 1928).

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Dear All

Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were they
American?

I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for the
first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London." This, of
course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz Band arrived in
Britain.

It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me there's a
connection. . .

Thanks

Richard

Hi Richard,
If the spelling you're using is correct, then that might give a clue.
 "Coloured" is the Britsih spelling.  An American band would have used
"colored".
Mike Amato

Bedford Banjo Shop

114 S. Juliana Street

Bedford, PA  15522

(814) 623-2187

http://www.bedfordbanjoshop.com

--- On Sat, 3/2/13, Richard Havers <rhavers1@...> wrote:

From: Richard Havers <rhavers1@...>
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band
To: "red hot jazz" <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 9:12 AM
















 









       Dear All



Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were they
American?



I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for the
first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London." This, of
course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz Band arrived in
Britain.



It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me there's a
connection. . .



Thanks



Richard



























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Hi Mike

Thanks for coming back. The advert was in The Scotsman newspaper so I think they
possibly altered the spelling to be the British way even if Dawkins and Co came
from America. I have trawled everywhere and can find nothing about them.

Cheers

Richard

On 2 Mar 2013, at 16:35, Mike Amato <vintagetenor@...> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> If the spelling you're using is correct, then that might give a clue. 
"Coloured" is the Britsih spelling.  An American band would have used "colored".
> Mike Amato
>
> Bedford Banjo Shop
>
> 114 S. Juliana Street
>
> Bedford, PA 15522
>
> (814) 623-2187
>
> http://www.bedfordbanjoshop.com
>
> --- On Sat, 3/2/13, Richard Havers rhavers1@...> wrote:
>
> From: Richard Havers rhavers1@...>
> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band
> To: "red hot jazz" RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 9:12 AM
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
> Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were they
American?
>
> I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for the
first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London." This, of
course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz Band arrived in
Britain.
>
> It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me there's
a connection. . .
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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This is actually before the ODJB arrived, at Liverpool on 1 April 1919.
They�ve never turned up in searches of the trade press.

Fascinating.


on 02/03/2013 14:12, Richard Havers at rhavers1@... wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Dear All
>
> Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were they
> American?
>
> I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for the
> first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London." This,
> of course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz Band arrived
> in Britain.
>
> It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me there's
> a connection. . .
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>

Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
howard@...
Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098




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Should have added I agree that it is inconceivably unlikely that any British
publication would have accepted an American spelling in an advertisement in
1919, and not much more likely now. British copywriters  even correct
American place names like Pearl Harbor to an imaginary British version.


on 02/03/2013 16:56, Richard Havers at rhavers1@... wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Mike
>
> Thanks for coming back. The advert was in The Scotsman newspaper so I think
> they possibly altered the spelling to be the British way even if Dawkins and
> Co came from America. I have trawled everywhere and can find nothing about
> them.
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
>
> On 2 Mar 2013, at 16:35, Mike Amato vintagetenor@...
> <mailto:vintagetenor%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
>
>> > Hi Richard,
>> > If the spelling you're using is correct, then that might give a clue.
>> "Coloured" is the Britsih spelling.  An American band would have used
>> "colored".
>> > Mike Amato
>> >
>> > Bedford Banjo Shop
>> >
>> > 114 S. Juliana Street
>> >
>> > Bedford, PA 15522
>> >
>> > (814) 623-2187
>> >
>> > http://www.bedfordbanjoshop.com
>> >
>> > --- On Sat, 3/2/13, Richard Havers rhavers1@...
>> <mailto:rhavers1%40mac.com> > wrote:
>> >
>> > From: Richard Havers rhavers1@... <mailto:rhavers1%40mac.com> >
>> > Subject: [RedHotJazz] Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band
>> > To: "red hot jazz" RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:RedHotJazz%40yahoogroups.com> >
>> > Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 9:12 AM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear All
>> >
>> > Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were
>> they American?
>> >
>> > I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for
>> the first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London."
>> This, of course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz Band
>> arrived in Britain.
>> >
>> > It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me
>> there's a connection. . .
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Richard
>> >
>> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >
>> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>

Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
howard@...
Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098




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Not really. Sub-editors are so ignorant and ill educated, they allow any sort of
mispelling to go uncorrected, so they are unlikely to alter Pearl Harbor. Also,
since most of the programmes with spell-checkers originate in the USA and they
and the software maintenance staff don't realise they can alter the language to
British English, even if they know there is a difference. Also if they know they
can, they don't know how. The number of spelling mistakes and poor grammar in
newsprint and elsewhere beggars the imagination.

I'm glad I was born when I was.

Rant over,

Marc

On 3 Mar 2013, at 14:07, Howard Rye <howard@...> wrote:

> Should have added I agree that it is inconceivably unlikely that any British
> publication would have accepted an American spelling in an advertisement in
> 1919, and not much more likely now. British copywriters even correct
> American place names like Pearl Harbor to an imaginary British version.
>
> on 02/03/2013 16:56, Richard Havers at rhavers1@... wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Mike
> >
> > Thanks for coming back. The advert was in The Scotsman newspaper so I think
> > they possibly altered the spelling to be the British way even if Dawkins and
> > Co came from America. I have trawled everywhere and can find nothing about
> > them.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > On 2 Mar 2013, at 16:35, Mike Amato vintagetenor@...
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> > Hi Richard,
> >> > If the spelling you're using is correct, then that might give a clue.
> >> "Coloured" is the Britsih spelling. An American band would have used
> >> "colored".
> >> > Mike Amato
> >> >
> >> > Bedford Banjo Shop
> >> >
> >> > 114 S. Juliana Street
> >> >
> >> > Bedford, PA 15522
> >> >
> >> > (814) 623-2187
> >> >
> >> > http://www.bedfordbanjoshop.com
> >> >
> >> > --- On Sat, 3/2/13, Richard Havers rhavers1@...
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Richard Havers rhavers1@... >
> >> > Subject: [RedHotJazz] Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band
> >> > To: "red hot jazz" RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> >> >
> >> > Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 9:12 AM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dear All
> >> >
> >> > Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were
> >> they American?
> >> >
> >> > I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for
> >> the first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London."
> >> This, of course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz
Band
> >> arrived in Britain.
> >> >
> >> > It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me
> >> there's a connection. . .
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > Richard
> >> >
> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >> >
> >> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
> howard@...
> Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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Yeah, but it wasn't like that in 1919 or 1939, or even 1959. I'm showing my
age, perhaps. Spell-checkers are imposing American spelling on the British,
but my parents book-shelves were full of stuff about the war referring to a
non-existent place called Pearl Harbour. My father was a newspaperman and
his paper's rigid policy was that no American spelling should ever appear
anywhere, even in a quotation.


on 03/03/2013 16:20, lastofthebarons at lastofthebarons@... wrote:

> Not really. Sub-editors are so ignorant and ill educated, they allow any sort
> of mispelling to go uncorrected, so they are unlikely to alter Pearl Harbor.
> Also, since most of the programmes with spell-checkers originate in the USA
> and they and the software maintenance staff don't realise they can alter the
> language to British English, even if they know there is a difference. Also if
> they know they can, they don't know how. The number of spelling mistakes and
> poor grammar in newsprint and elsewhere beggars the imagination.
>
> I'm glad I was born when I was.
>
> Rant over,
>
> Marc
>
> On 3 Mar 2013, at 14:07, Howard Rye <howard@...> wrote:
>
>> Should have added I agree that it is inconceivably unlikely that any British
>> publication would have accepted an American spelling in an advertisement in
>> 1919, and not much more likely now. British copywriters even correct
>> American place names like Pearl Harbor to an imaginary British version.
>>
>> on 02/03/2013 16:56, Richard Havers at rhavers1@... wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Mike
>>>
>>> Thanks for coming back. The advert was in The Scotsman newspaper so I think
>>> they possibly altered the spelling to be the British way even if Dawkins and
>>> Co came from America. I have trawled everywhere and can find nothing about
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> On 2 Mar 2013, at 16:35, Mike Amato vintagetenor@...
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hi Richard,
>>>>> If the spelling you're using is correct, then that might give a clue.
>>>> "Coloured" is the Britsih spelling. An American band would have used
>>>> "colored".
>>>>> Mike Amato
>>>>>
>>>>> Bedford Banjo Shop
>>>>>
>>>>> 114 S. Juliana Street
>>>>>
>>>>> Bedford, PA 15522
>>>>>
>>>>> (814) 623-2187
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bedfordbanjoshop.com
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Sat, 3/2/13, Richard Havers rhavers1@...
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Richard Havers rhavers1@... >
>>>>> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band
>>>>> To: "red hot jazz" RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Saturday, March 2, 2013, 9:12 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear All
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were
>>>> they American?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for
>>>> the first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London."
>>>> This, of course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz
>>>> Band
>>>> arrived in Britain.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me
>>>> there's a connection. . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
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Hi,

   Love trad jazz and would like to listen online.  Can anyone recommend any
radio stations/websites broadcasting trad/dixieland jazz that you can listen to
online?
   Prefer to listen without advertisements/commercials if possible.

Thanks,
Jim

you can...

join Live365 for a biennial membership fee and without ads...

tune into Weimar Rundfunk and there are plenty of other jazz radios on there
as well...

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----- Original Message -----
From: "seadogjimbo" <seadog42@...>
To: <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 5:16 PM
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Online traditional/dixieland jazz radio


> Hi,
>
>  Love trad jazz and would like to listen online.  Can anyone recommend any
> radio stations/websites broadcasting trad/dixieland jazz that you can
> listen to online?
>  Prefer to listen without advertisements/commercials if possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
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Jim, the link below will get you started but Mr. Google is pretty good at
sniffing out precisely what you may favour.
You can navigate to what you want through

http://www.accuradio.com/

Cheers,
Ric

   _____

From: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of seadogjimbo
Sent: March-06-13 12:17 PM
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Online traditional/dixieland jazz radio




Hi,

Love trad jazz and would like to listen online. Can anyone recommend any
radio stations/websites broadcasting trad/dixieland jazz that you can listen
to online?
Prefer to listen without advertisements/commercials if possible.

Thanks,
Jim






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Hi Jim,

Try "The 1920s Radio Network" at www.the1920snetwork.com

Despite the name, it actually broadcasts music recorded from the 1920s up
to the 1950s, but with the emphasis on pre-WWII jazz.

Nick


On 6 March 2013 17:16, seadogjimbo <seadog42@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Love trad jazz and would like to listen online. Can anyone recommend any
> radio stations/websites broadcasting trad/dixieland jazz that you can
> listen to online?
> Prefer to listen without advertisements/commercials if possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>


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HI Jim
������������ Another link here :-

http://www.last.fm/listen/globaltags/trad%20jazz

TTFN - 007




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  From: bsdfl <earlyjazzdixie@...>
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013, 17:57
Subject: RE: [RedHotJazz] Online traditional/dixieland jazz radio

Jim, the link below will get you started but Mr. Google is pretty good at
sniffing out precisely what you may favour.
You can navigate to what you want through

http://www.accuradio.com/

Cheers,
Ric

� _____�

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Behalf Of seadogjimbo
Sent: March-06-13 12:17 PM
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [RedHotJazz] Online traditional/dixieland jazz radio


�

Hi,

Love trad jazz and would like to listen online. Can anyone recommend any
radio stations/websites broadcasting trad/dixieland jazz that you can listen
to online?
Prefer to listen without advertisements/commercials if possible.

Thanks,
Jim






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Dear Bob
That is all very well, but for security reasons I will remove your post from the
RHA archive and replace it by this quote.
Even though only group members can read your recipents’ addresses, they need
not be publicly displayed (this is what line CCi, not CC, is meant for)
Best,
Patrice




Please note:

My present E-mail provider ("Tele2.no") is shutting down the E-mail service
during April.

So I'm now changeing to another of my E-mail addresses, viz.:
mailto:robertjs%40broadpark.no

and this is available now.

Robert Smith




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Thanks to everyone who responded, all good trad jazz recommendations.

Regards,
Jim

--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, ALAN BOND <alan_bond@...> wrote:
>
> HI Jim
> ������������ Another link here :-
>
> http://www.last.fm/listen/globaltags/trad%20jazz
>
> TTFN - 007
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: bsdfl <earlyjazzdixie@...>
> To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013, 17:57
> Subject: RE: [RedHotJazz] Online traditional/dixieland jazz radio
>
> Jim, the link below will get you started but Mr. Google is pretty good at
> sniffing out precisely what you may favour.
> You can navigate to what you want through
>
> http://www.accuradio.com/
>
> Cheers,
> Ric
>
> � _____�
>
> From: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com [mailto:RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of seadogjimbo
> Sent: March-06-13 12:17 PM
> To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [RedHotJazz] Online traditional/dixieland jazz radio
>
>
> �
>
> Hi,
>
> Love trad jazz and would like to listen online. Can anyone recommend any
> radio stations/websites broadcasting trad/dixieland jazz that you can listen
> to online?
> Prefer to listen without advertisements/commercials if possible.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com, Richard Havers <rhavers1@...> wrote:
>
> Dear All
>
> Looking for some information on Dawkin's Famous Coloured Jazz Band. Were they
American?
>
> I have found an advert on 14 March 1919 that they were playing jazz "for the
first time in Scotland" on 24 March and they were "direct from London." This, of
course, is around the same time as the Original Dixieland Jazz Band arrived in
Britain.
>
> It's in connection with a book I am writing on Verve Records. Trust me there's
a connection. . .
>
> Thanks
>
> Richard
>

Very interesting 1928 New York soundie with many interesting musicians famous
(and unknown). At 2 min we are treated to an invisible violin solo and at 4:30
to a drum solo on "parchment"� among other performances.


If you can identify some more of the 27(?) musicians, Mr. Cantor would like to
hear from you...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlFTqFF07I


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I have already been in direct touch with the enquirer but Dawkins is almost
certainly the West Indian bandleader and drummer more commonly known under the
name Oscar Logan, whose full real name was Oscar Newton Logan Dawkins. He was
recalled by Leslie Thompson, who gives the impression he was secretive about his
ancestry and no source located gives a clue to where he came from, but the
Trinidadian bandleader Al Jennings was a witness at his wedding to a lady from
Nottingham. They appear to have moved from London to Nottingham when war broke
out and Oscar died there in 1942 at the age of 46 having carved a sufficient
local reputation for his doings to be on the front page of the Nottingham
Evening Post.

Fantastic! From the YouTube comments - is this confirmed?

Re: Invisible violin  solo:

                 He did it with one cut-off hair from his bow, tied in a
                 cricle? and weaved between the strings of the violin.


I wondered if he was just doing it all with his right-hand fingers and
the left hand was just pantomime. - Andrew Taylor


On 3/18/2013 7:34 PM, Mordechai Litzman wrote:
>
> Very interesting 1928 New York soundie with many interesting musicians
> famous (and unknown). At 2 min we are treated to an invisible violin
> solo and at 4:30 to a drum solo on "parchment"  among other performances.
>
> If you can identify some more of the 27(?) musicians, Mr. Cantor would
> like to hear from you...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlFTqFF07I
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


--
Andrew Taylor, MLS
Associate Curator, Visual Resources
Department of Art History, Rice University
713-348-4836



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The violin technique was used by Gypsy musicians - check out the film Latcho
Drom for an emotionally powerful use of this technique.

Also:

ROMANIAN FIDDLE TECHNIQUES
The primas takes the main melody, enhancing it with chromatic runs, double
stops, arpeggios, pizzicato, harmonics and the like- all performance tricks
which could be improvised on the spot to enhance the performance. He conducts
the rest of the band with an imperious nod of the head, a scowl or a flourish of
the bow, directing dramatic changes of tempo and mood.  One of the most
impressive and characteristic techniques of the Romanian fiddler is the use of a
single bow hair. The hair, well rosined, is tied in a loop around the G string.
Instead of holding the bow, the right hand slowly pulls the hair, producing an
eerie rasping sound. You can hear this to good effect on the opening track
(Dance of the firemen) of Taraf de Haiduks� album Band of Gypsies; in the famous
1992 documentary film Lacho Drom, and in a magnificent scene in the film Train
de Vie, where a duel takes place between a gypsy and a klezmer band.

Cheers,

Andrew Homzy -

180 Pirates Lane - Nanaimo, BC
V9R 6R1 CANADA

Phone: 250-667-0238

On 2013-03-25, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Taylor wrote:

> Fantastic! From the YouTube comments - is this confirmed?
>
> Re: Invisible violin solo:
>
> He did it with one cut-off hair from his bow, tied in a
> cricle? and weaved between the strings of the violin.
>
> I wondered if he was just doing it all with his right-hand fingers and
> the left hand was just pantomime. - Andrew Taylor
>
> On 3/18/2013 7:34 PM, Mordechai Litzman wrote:
> >
> > Very interesting 1928 New York soundie with many interesting musicians
> > famous (and unknown). At 2 min we are treated to an invisible violin
> > solo and at 4:30 to a drum solo on "parchment" among other performances.
> >
> > If you can identify some more of the 27(?) musicians, Mr. Cantor would
> > like to hear from you...
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlFTqFF07I
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Taylor, MLS
> Associate Curator, Visual Resources
> Department of Art History, Rice University
> 713-348-4836
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Thanks for the info - any Youtube videos to watch of this technique?

Now, what about the washboard/parchment/wall paper solo?




________________________________
  From: Andrew Homzy <andrew.homzy@...>
To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Walt Roesner and the Capitolians - 1928 soundie

The violin technique was used by Gypsy musicians - check out the film Latcho
Drom for an emotionally powerful use of this technique.

Also:

ROMANIAN FIDDLE TECHNIQUES
The primas takes the main melody, enhancing it with chromatic runs, double
stops, arpeggios, pizzicato, harmonics and the like- all performance tricks
which could be improvised on the spot to enhance the performance. He conducts
the rest of the band with an imperious nod of the head, a scowl or a flourish of
the bow, directing dramatic changes of tempo and mood.  One of the most
impressive and characteristic techniques of the Romanian fiddler is the use of a
single bow hair. The hair, well rosined, is tied in a loop around the G string.
Instead of holding the bow, the right hand slowly pulls the hair, producing an
eerie rasping sound. You can hear this to good effect on the opening track
(Dance of the firemen) of Taraf de Haiduks’ album Band of Gypsies; in the
famous 1992 documentary film Lacho Drom, and in a magnificent scene in the film
Train de Vie, where a duel takes place between a gypsy and a klezmer band.

Cheers,

Andrew Homzy -

180 Pirates Lane - Nanaimo, BC
V9R 6R1 CANADA

Phone: 250-667-0238

On 2013-03-25, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Taylor wrote:

> Fantastic! From the YouTube comments - is this confirmed?
>
> Re: Invisible violin solo:
>
> He did it with one cut-off hair from his bow, tied in a
> cricle? and weaved between the strings of the violin.
>
> I wondered if he was just doing it all with his right-hand fingers and
> the left hand was just pantomime. - Andrew Taylor
>
> On 3/18/2013 7:34 PM, Mordechai Litzman wrote:
> >
> > Very interesting 1928 New York soundie with many interesting musicians
> > famous (and unknown). At 2 min we are treated to an invisible violin
> > solo and at 4:30 to a drum solo on "parchment" among other performances.
> >
> > If you can identify some more of the 27(?) musicians, Mr. Cantor would
> > like to hear from you...
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlFTqFF07I
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Taylor, MLS
> Associate Curator, Visual Resources
> Department of Art History, Rice University
> 713-348-4836
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>



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That single bow hair bowing technique on the violin seems to be a variation of
the technique that Joe Venuti used for his chord-melody solos.  But Joe used
the entirety of bow, placing the instrument between the horsehair and the bow
stick.  I remember Chauncey Morehouse telling me about that and how impressed
he was with that.  And no wonder!

Mike Amato

Bedford Banjo Shop

114 S. Juliana Street

Bedford, PA  15522

(814) 623-2187

http://www.bedfordbanjoshop.com

--- On Wed, 3/27/13, Mordechai Litzman <folke613@...> wrote:

From: Mordechai Litzman <folke613@...>
Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Walt Roesner and the Capitolians - 1928 soundie
To: "RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com" <RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, March 27, 2013, 9:40 PM
















 









       Thanks for the info - any Youtube videos to watch of this technique?



Now, what about the washboard/parchment/wall paper solo?



________________________________

  From: Andrew Homzy <andrew.homzy@...>

To: RedHotJazz@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:50 PM

Subject: Re: [RedHotJazz] Walt Roesner and the Capitolians - 1928 soundie



The violin technique was used by Gypsy musicians - check out the film Latcho
Drom for an emotionally powerful use of this technique.



Also:



ROMANIAN FIDDLE TECHNIQUES

The primas takes the main melody, enhancing it with chromatic runs, double
stops, arpeggios, pizzicato, harmonics and the like- all performance tricks
which could be improvised on the spot to enhance the performance. He conducts
the rest of the band with an imperious nod of the head, a scowl or a flourish of
the bow, directing dramatic changes of tempo and mood.  One of the most
impressive and characteristic techniques of the Romanian fiddler is the use of a
single bow hair. The hair, well rosined, is tied in a loop around the G string.
Instead of holding the bow, the right hand slowly pulls the hair, producing an
eerie rasping sound. You can hear this to good effect on the opening track
(Dance of the firemen) of Taraf de Haiduks’ album Band of Gypsies; in the
famous 1992 documentary film Lacho Drom, and in a magnificent scene in the film
Train de Vie, where a duel takes place between a gypsy and a klezmer band.



Cheers,



Andrew Homzy -



180 Pirates Lane - Nanaimo, BC

V9R 6R1 CANADA



Phone: 250-667-0238



On 2013-03-25, at 1:48 PM, Andrew Taylor wrote:



> Fantastic! From the YouTube comments - is this confirmed?

>

> Re: Invisible violin solo:

>

> He did it with one cut-off hair from his bow, tied in a

> cricle? and weaved between the strings of the violin.

>

> I wondered if he was just doing it all with his right-hand fingers and

> the left hand was just pantomime. - Andrew Taylor

>

> On 3/18/2013 7:34 PM, Mordechai Litzman wrote:

> >

> > Very interesting 1928 New York soundie with many interesting musicians

> > famous (and unknown). At 2 min we are treated to an invisible violin

> > solo and at 4:30 to a drum solo on "parchment" among other performances.

> >

> > If you can identify some more of the 27(?) musicians, Mr. Cantor would

> > like to hear from you...

> >

> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwlFTqFF07I

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >

> >

>

> --

> Andrew Taylor, MLS

> Associate Curator, Visual Resources

> Department of Art History, Rice University

> 713-348-4836

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

>

>



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Here's the complete number -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCLmfx_d4m8

Dave Weiner

On 3/27/13 9:40 PM, "Mordechai Litzman" <folke613@...> wrote:

>Thanks for the info - any Youtube videos to watch of this technique?

Hi Folks,
               BEWARE - I have just received an Email purporting to come from
Yahoo. It requests verification of account details. It seems that the last
hacking attempt upset the scammers so they are trying something new.

Alan, I did not want to ask you publicly, but I wonder if you ever received any
of my two private messages warning you of spams sent *to* the group from *your*
address.

I barred the second one, but a previous one (months ago) started some other
group member’s attempt at flaming me as if I was standing at my computer 24/7.
In both cases (yours, and his), I never received any reply, so that will be two
reminders instead of one:

a) About the group’s rules: please refer to a moderator before sending
pointless alerts to the whole list!
b) About the group’s definition: “members are not allowed to hide their
email address”. Unfortunately, more and more people are bypassing this
setting, by subscribing under addresses they *never* check.

The problem is that your email account has been hacked, which I attempted to
tell you twice, to no avail. No connection with yahoo, or with any of this
group’s members.

I am also reminding everyone that some “social” groups (the ones supposed to
“connect” groups together, harvest the whole of your address books and send
“invitations” in your names) are extremely dangerous, please do not blame
Yahoo for this if you fancied joining one of these!!

Patrice

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So, what is the update on repairing/gaining access to the site or getting in
contact with the creator or service provider? Let me know what I can do!

Hi all,
Does anyone know the name of the "Jazz Band from Memphis" that plays at
Madge's (Bette Davis) party,
or who the musicians are?
IMDB has no information that I can find, neither does my "Jazz In The
Movies" book.
First time I have ever watched this film, thanks to You Tube.

Peter L

What is the YouTube link?

================================================================
On 4/30/2013 7:54 AM, Peter L Reid wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Does anyone know the name of the "Jazz Band from Memphis" that plays at
> Madge's (Bette Davis) party,
> or who the musicians are?
> IMDB has no information that I can find, neither does my "Jazz In The
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> First time I have ever watched this film, thanks to You Tube.
>
> Peter L
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It�s Les Hite and His Orchestra.

Numbers performed are: Willie The Weeper (inst); Peckerwoods Wiggle; Willie
The Weeper (Bette Davis, vocal)


on 30/04/2013 12:54, Peter L Reid at reid1947@... wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
> Does anyone know the name of the "Jazz Band from Memphis" that plays at
> Madge's (Bette Davis) party,
> or who the musicians are?
> IMDB has no information that I can find, neither does my "Jazz In The
> Movies" book.
> First time I have ever watched this film, thanks to You Tube.
>
> Peter L
>
>
>
>
>

Howard Rye, 20 Coppermill Lane, London, England, E17 7HB
howard@...
Tel/FAX: +44 20 8521 1098




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On 30/04/2013 10:37 PM, Jim wrote:
> What is the YouTube link?
Hi Jim, and thank you Howard.

Jim try this -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbpdOmbOnLQ

Howard do you have any idea of the personnel of the band in the film?
My books tell me that Les Hite took over Paul Howard' Quality
Serenaders  in 1930
and Louis later performed with them from 1930-32, and called it his New
Sebastion
Cotton Club Orchestra. (What a great name)
The trumpeter on "Willie the Weeper" ( in the film) is worth a mention.

Peter L



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