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#8246 From: "david" <dunebug2222@...>
Date: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:38 am
Subject: Re: Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation 		dunebug2222
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Hi and thank's for the help I tried 2 bass and one bari mouthpieces the bari
mouthpiece seemed to brighten all notes .For c I was able to raise the key
almost 1/4" buy pushing under the lever with my index finger that helped however
not particle I will try to adjust. I think the d is just me needing to play more
bass. The instrument is in poor shape It looks like it was originally lacquered,
then painted gold and maintained with a hammer and ceiling wax but I like
messing with it and one day I  will get it all fixed up--- In
SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com, saxgourmet@... wrote:
>
> I agree with Lars. The opening should be at least thirty percent of the
diameter of the tone hole.
>
>
>
> Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:42:19
> To: <SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [SaxophoneRepair] Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation
>
> My first thought is that the low D# (Eb) and the low C keys may not be opening
enough. (The openings should be in the 8 - 10mm range).
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: david
>   To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:24 PM
>   Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation
>
>
>
>   My C and D always play flat despite my best efforts it has ben mentioned to
me that it might be the instrument. Does anyone have experience with this being
an issue with this saxophone?
>

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#8245 From: "mahnkentom" <trailertom@...>
Date: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: Mark 6 G2 		mahnkentom
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thanks all- I think the key height may  indeed be too low...I'll start with
that.

--- In SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com, "fidlershorns" <grassinospam@...> wrote:
>
> Next, if that does not help, check the body octave pip diameter. There's been
a lot of posts on that. Or try the power pips if you are not worried about
originality??
>
> Third, replace the whole instrument with a Saxgourmet set up of your choice.
That will be sure to improve many things on the MK VI! ;-) A nice Mk VI might
sell for enough to break even on this deal.
>
> E v e r e t t
>
> --- In SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com, "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@> wrote:
> >
> > Again, verify key-opening. - Lars
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: mahnkentom
> >   To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
> >   Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:55 AM
> >   Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Mark 6 G2
> >
> >
> >
> >   Hello,
> >
> >   I have a 1970 Mark VI (new to me) with a G that just doesn't ..well, it
doesn't sing. It's not as strong and clear as the G# of the F#- just sounds a
little restricted, like it's heart is not fully in that octave, and given a
choice it might rather be an octave lower. Is that a good explanation? It's not
terrible, just something I notice. I'm wondering if that is a normal Mark VI
thing, or if there is some other explanation. Pads are sealing well, octave pips
are clean and clear. Maybe it's just an anomaly, one of those things a nice
saxgourmet neck might help with. Anyway, could also be me getting used to it
still also.
> >   But I was curious if there were any common complaints about this note.
> >   thanks!
> >   -tom
> >
>

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#8244 From: "fidlershorns" <grassinospam@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: Mark 6 G2 		fidlershorns
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Next, if that does not help, check the body octave pip diameter. There's been a
lot of posts on that. Or try the power pips if you are not worried about
originality??

Third, replace the whole instrument with a Saxgourmet set up of your choice.
That will be sure to improve many things on the MK VI! ;-) A nice Mk VI might
sell for enough to break even on this deal.

E v e r e t t

--- In SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com, "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...> wrote:
>
> Again, verify key-opening. - Lars
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: mahnkentom
>   To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:55 AM
>   Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Mark 6 G2
>
>
>
>   Hello,
>
>   I have a 1970 Mark VI (new to me) with a G that just doesn't ..well, it
doesn't sing. It's not as strong and clear as the G# of the F#- just sounds a
little restricted, like it's heart is not fully in that octave, and given a
choice it might rather be an octave lower. Is that a good explanation? It's not
terrible, just something I notice. I'm wondering if that is a normal Mark VI
thing, or if there is some other explanation. Pads are sealing well, octave pips
are clean and clear. Maybe it's just an anomaly, one of those things a nice
saxgourmet neck might help with. Anyway, could also be me getting used to it
still also.
>   But I was curious if there were any common complaints about this note.
>   thanks!
>   -tom
>

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#8243 From: saxgourmet@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:22 pm
Subject: Re: Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation 		saxgourmet
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I agree with Lars. The opening should be at least thirty percent of the diameter of the tone hole.


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From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:42:19 -0800
To: <SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SaxophoneRepair] Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation

 

My first thought is that the low D# (Eb) and the low C keys may not be opening enough. (The openings should be in the 8 - 10mm range).
 
----- Original Message -----
From: david
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:24 PM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation

 

My C and D always play flat despite my best efforts it has ben mentioned to me that it might be the instrument. Does anyone have experience with this being an issue with this saxophone?


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#8242 From: saxgourmet@...
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: Mark 6 G2 		saxgourmet
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Check the opening of the G key. It should open as much as the A and the F sharp. This is a common problem. Yes, a Saxgourmet neck will make your VI sound better and improve intonation and quicken response.


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From: "mahnkentom" <trailertom@...>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:55:49 -0000
To: <SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Mark 6 G2

 

Hello,

I have a 1970 Mark VI (new to me) with a G that just doesn't ..well, it doesn't sing. It's not as strong and clear as the G# of the F#- just sounds a little restricted, like it's heart is not fully in that octave, and given a choice it might rather be an octave lower. Is that a good explanation? It's not terrible, just something I notice. I'm wondering if that is a normal Mark VI thing, or if there is some other explanation. Pads are sealing well, octave pips are clean and clear. Maybe it's just an anomaly, one of those things a nice saxgourmet neck might help with. Anyway, could also be me getting used to it still also.
But I was curious if there were any common complaints about this note.
thanks!
-tom


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#8241 From: "bigb_1925" <bigb_1925@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:34 pm
Subject: Re: Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation 		bigb_1925
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Yes.  I have a True Tone Bass and have struggled with this too.  Join the Bass
Sax Coop, there is always good advice on the site.

What I have experienced is that your mouthpiece will play a HUGE part in the
intonation on Bass.  Is your upper register sharp?  True Tone Basses need a
large chamber mouthpiece.  However, too large of a mouthpiece can also cause
problems as well.  You may need to experiment with several different
mouthpieces, try a bari mouthpiece to see if it improves or gets worse.

Paul Coats can explain the physics behind this much better than I can.  Paul are
you out there?

Mike

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#8240 From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:32 pm
Subject: Re: Mark 6 G2 		archievonzipper
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Sorry for the second comment, but I wanted to point out that G is right at the point where it is at the limit of the lower octave vent; going to A will defer to the upper octave vent. As a result, this G tends to be an acoustically weak note. My former post referred to making sure that the openings (right hand stack) are correct. On an alto, the F# will be set within a range of about 7 - 8 mm's (the rest of the key heights are then calibrated off this reference). - Lars Kirmser
 
----- Original Message -----
From: mahnkentom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:55 AM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Mark 6 G2

 

Hello,

I have a 1970 Mark VI (new to me) with a G that just doesn't ..well, it doesn't sing. It's not as strong and clear as the G# of the F#- just sounds a little restricted, like it's heart is not fully in that octave, and given a choice it might rather be an octave lower. Is that a good explanation? It's not terrible, just something I notice. I'm wondering if that is a normal Mark VI thing, or if there is some other explanation. Pads are sealing well, octave pips are clean and clear. Maybe it's just an anomaly, one of those things a nice saxgourmet neck might help with. Anyway, could also be me getting used to it still also.
But I was curious if there were any common complaints about this note.
thanks!
-tom


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#8239 From: "fidlershorns" <grassinospam@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Mark 6 G2 		fidlershorns
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First, check your F# pad opening.

--- In SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com, "mahnkentom" <trailertom@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have a 1970 Mark VI (new to me) with a G that just doesn't ..well, it
doesn't sing. It's not as strong and clear as the G# of the F#- just sounds a
little restricted, like it's heart is not fully in that octave, and given a
choice it might rather be an octave lower. Is that a good explanation? It's not
terrible, just something I notice. I'm wondering if that is a normal Mark VI
thing, or if there is some other explanation. Pads are sealing well, octave pips
are clean and clear. Maybe it's just an anomaly, one of those things a nice
saxgourmet neck might help with. Anyway, could also be me getting used to it
still also.
> But I was curious if there were any common complaints about this note.
> thanks!
> -tom
>

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#8238 From: "fidlershorns" <grassinospam@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:23 pm
Subject: UPS Shipping Update 		fidlershorns
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I went to the UPS distribution center after receving a string of crushed boxes.
They are brick stacking packages as high as they can. And now that they take up
to 150 lb packages, small boxes get crushed. I was told shippers need to make
sure the inside of the box is crammed tightly full to help support anything set
on top of it. I was also told the last box was the shippers fault for putting
somehing in just a few newspapers in a good cardboard box. After that
conversation, I doubt any instrument not in a case and FULLY surrounded by foam
or peanuts or tightly wadded newspapers will be covered. Be sure to use a full
stated value with some paperwork to verify the value of the contents

E v e r e t t  F i d l e r

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#8237 From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Mark 6 G2 		archievonzipper
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Again, verify key-opening. - Lars
 
----- Original Message -----
From: mahnkentom
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 11:55 AM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Mark 6 G2

 

Hello,

I have a 1970 Mark VI (new to me) with a G that just doesn't ..well, it doesn't sing. It's not as strong and clear as the G# of the F#- just sounds a little restricted, like it's heart is not fully in that octave, and given a choice it might rather be an octave lower. Is that a good explanation? It's not terrible, just something I notice. I'm wondering if that is a normal Mark VI thing, or if there is some other explanation. Pads are sealing well, octave pips are clean and clear. Maybe it's just an anomaly, one of those things a nice saxgourmet neck might help with. Anyway, could also be me getting used to it still also.
But I was curious if there were any common complaints about this note.
thanks!
-tom


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#8236 From: "mahnkentom" <trailertom@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:55 pm
Subject: Mark 6 G2 		mahnkentom
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Hello,

I have a 1970 Mark VI (new to me) with a G that just doesn't ..well, it doesn't
sing. It's not as strong and clear as the G# of the F#- just sounds a little
restricted, like it's heart is not fully in that octave, and given a choice it
might rather be an octave lower. Is that a good explanation? It's not terrible,
just something I notice. I'm wondering if that is a normal Mark VI thing, or if
there is some other explanation. Pads are sealing well, octave pips are clean
and clear. Maybe it's just an anomaly, one of those things a nice saxgourmet
neck might help with. Anyway, could also be me getting used to it still also.
But I was curious if there were any common complaints about this note.
thanks!
-tom

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#8235 From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:42 pm
Subject: Re: Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation 		archievonzipper
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My first thought is that the low D# (Eb) and the low C keys may not be opening enough. (The openings should be in the 8 - 10mm range).
 
----- Original Message -----
From: david
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 5:24 PM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation

 

My C and D always play flat despite my best efforts it has ben mentioned to me that it might be the instrument. Does anyone have experience with this being an issue with this saxophone?


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#8234 From: Danny Wilson <danodownunder@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:51 am
Subject: Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation 		saxmandanz
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In my humble experience it is usually an embouchure problem
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#8233 From: "david" <dunebug2222@...>
Date: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:24 am
Subject: Buescher True Tone bass sax intonation 		dunebug2222
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My C and D always play flat despite my best efforts it has ben mentioned to me
that it might be the instrument. Does anyone have experience with this being an
issue with this saxophone?

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#8232 From: "Mr. Davidson" <usedeqeric@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:58 pm
Subject: Re: Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration 		usedeqeric
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SG,
 
I just ordered two off ebay from you.  Please send me a alto and a tenor version.
My e-sax mute is hard to play unless you have little Japanese hands.

From: STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...>
To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 20, 2009 12:35:49 PM
Subject: RE: [SaxophoneRepair] Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration

 

they are now on eBay and my blog
 
 

From: SaxophoneRepair@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:SaxophoneRe pair@yahoogroups .com] On Behalf Of Mr. Davidson
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:20 AM
To: SaxophoneRepair@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [SaxophoneRepair] Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration

please re-send the link.  I want to see this in action !

From: STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@cox. net>
To: SaxophoneRepair@ yahoogroups. com; Paul C. <tenorman1952@ yahoo.com>; saxxsymbol@yahoo. com; cbgroves@ix. netcom.com; francis_l@hammond. org; Tony Dagradi <dagradi@cox. net>
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 10:12:32 AM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration

 

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=F7flfJoXkVk

 

 

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#8231 From: Rufus Acosta <rufusacosta@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: YAS62 low B problems 		rufus_acosta
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Assuming everything is tight, that is, not leaking, and there is no other issue like neck fit, G# pad cracking open etc., then suspecting the spring tension/finger pressure of the customer is appropriate. With the customer present I would close the low B pad with a piece of cork or whatever and see if that takes care of the motorboating when they play.  If that doesn't stop the warble it would be hard to blame spring tension / too-light-a touch with the low B key. (And, of course, the G# spatula spring is part of that too and may need to be eased.)

A small percentage of my sax customers do cultivate an unusually light finger touch, and I see little pattern regarding hand size, presumed strength etc. However, novices of any age do have more issues with hitting other keys accidentally when going for the low notes, what with all those keys to close.

I'd keep poking around. There is a solution...or at least a resolution.



--- On Fri, 11/20/09, andy <andrew.collins@...> wrote:

From: andy <andrew.collins@...>
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] YAS62 low B problems
To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 9:39 AM

 

A customer has brought back the alto, which I have just serviced, saying she cannot reach low B without it motorboating. When I play it there is not a problem. I've re-checked the horn for leaks but it is fine. She says the low B key is difficult to press, but again I don't have any problems with this though I have slackened the spring tension. It would appear that females do not have the pinkie strength that us males have! Any suggestions. ...clean please!!


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#8230 From: " STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:41 pm
Subject: RE: YAS62 low B problems 		saxgourmet
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I am no aware of any "off the shelf" low B extensions (Oleg makes one for Bb), but a small lump of epoxy putty may provide just the leverage that is needed

From: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sass
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 12:32 PM
To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SaxophoneRepair] YAS62 low B problems

 

I would not state it is a male vs. female issues (sure you probably did not mean it that way.).  It is probably more of a hand size issue.  I have two of my kids who play sax, and my wife also plays sax.  We all play very good horns (L.A. Sax 750s mainly, but others as well).  I have noticed that for my 11 year old, it is hard for him to use his pinky to hold down the low B-flat key, similar issue.  However, he is growing fast, and I doubt that he will have the same problem as he gets bigger.  I have heard of extensions for some keys.  I am sure Steve Goodson may be of help there.  I know Oleg offers things similar to that, but not sure what their exact products are, as I personally am not a huge fan of Oleg (over-priced in my opinion for what you get in terms of quality.)  Others are free to disagree.
Bob

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, andy <andrew.collins@norfolk.gov.uk> wrote:

From: andy <andrew.collins@norfolk.gov.uk>
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] YAS62 low B problems
To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 11:39 AM

 
A customer has brought back the alto, which I have just serviced, saying she cannot reach low B without it motorboating. When I play it there is not a problem. I've re-checked the horn for leaks but it is fine. She says the low B key is difficult to press, but again I don't have any problems with this though I have slackened the spring tension. It would appear that females do not have the pinkie strength that us males have! Any suggestions. ...clean please!!



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#8229 From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: YAS62 low B problems 		archievonzipper
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My guess is that the difference in the 2 mouthpieces or mouthpiece placement on the neck will account for the difference (playing for you; not for her). - Lars
 
----- Original Message -----
From: andy
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] YAS62 low B problems

 

A customer has brought back the alto, which I have just serviced, saying she cannot reach low B without it motorboating. When I play it there is not a problem. I've re-checked the horn for leaks but it is fine. She says the low B key is difficult to press, but again I don't have any problems with this though I have slackened the spring tension. It would appear that females do not have the pinkie strength that us males have! Any suggestions....clean please!!


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#8228 From: " STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:35 pm
Subject: RE: Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration 		saxgourmet
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they are now on eBay and my blog
 
 

From: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. Davidson
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:20 AM
To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SaxophoneRepair] Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration

please re-send the link.  I want to see this in action !

From: STEVE GOODSON <saxgourmet@...>
To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com; Paul C. <tenorman1952@...>; saxxsymbol@...; cbgroves@...; francis_l@...; Tony Dagradi <dagradi@...>
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 10:12:32 AM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration

 

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=F7flfJoXkVk

 

 

sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc

STEVE GOODSON

SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS

 

our products are ALL rated

 

cid:339191121@25022009-09F4

 

Steve is a member of

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PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
http://www.nationof music.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
http://www.saxgourm et.com/  (saxophone history and information)
http://saxophonetho ughts.blogspot. com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

 

READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

BASIC SHOP RATE........ ........$ 100/HR

IF YOU WATCH....... ......... .....$125/ HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS... ...$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/ HR

 

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#8227 From: Robert Sass <robert7sass@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:31 pm
Subject: Re: YAS62 low B problems 		robert7sass
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I would not state it is a male vs. female issues (sure you probably did not mean it that way.).  It is probably more of a hand size issue.  I have two of my kids who play sax, and my wife also plays sax.  We all play very good horns (L.A. Sax 750s mainly, but others as well).  I have noticed that for my 11 year old, it is hard for him to use his pinky to hold down the low B-flat key, similar issue.  However, he is growing fast, and I doubt that he will have the same problem as he gets bigger.  I have heard of extensions for some keys.  I am sure Steve Goodson may be of help there.  I know Oleg offers things similar to that, but not sure what their exact products are, as I personally am not a huge fan of Oleg (over-priced in my opinion for what you get in terms of quality.)  Others are free to disagree.
Bob

--- On Fri, 11/20/09, andy <andrew.collins@...> wrote:

From: andy <andrew.collins@...>
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] YAS62 low B problems
To: SaxophoneRepair@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 11:39 AM

 
A customer has brought back the alto, which I have just serviced, saying she cannot reach low B without it motorboating. When I play it there is not a problem. I've re-checked the horn for leaks but it is fine. She says the low B key is difficult to press, but again I don't have any problems with this though I have slackened the spring tension. It would appear that females do not have the pinkie strength that us males have! Any suggestions. ...clean please!!



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#8226 From: "andy" <andrew.collins@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:39 pm
Subject: YAS62 low B problems 		andycollins1...
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A customer has brought back the alto, which I have just serviced, saying she
cannot reach low B without it motorboating. When I play it there is not a
problem. I've re-checked the horn for leaks but it is fine. She says the low B
key is difficult to press, but again I don't have any problems with this though
I have slackened the spring tension. It would appear that females do not have
the pinkie strength that us males have! Any suggestions....clean please!!

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#8225 From: "Mr. Davidson" <usedeqeric@...>
Date: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:19 pm
Subject: Re: Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration 		usedeqeric
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please re-send the link.  I want to see this in action !

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Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 10:12:32 AM
Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration

 

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=F7flfJoXkVk

 

 

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READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
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IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS... ...$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

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#8224 From: "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:12 pm
Subject: Saxgourmet Mute video demonstration 		saxgourmet
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7flfJoXkVk

 

 

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http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

 

READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

 

The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson

 

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#8223 From: "bootman" <bootman@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:39 am
Subject: RE: Saxgourmet SAXOPHONE MUTES are now in stock! 		realbootman
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Look great!

 

God Bless

Bootman

Richard Booth

 

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Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 12:32 PM
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Subject: [SaxophoneRepair] Saxgourmet SAXOPHONE MUTES are now in stock!

 

 

I predict this will be the “accessory item of the year”…..we’ve got ‘em for alto, tenor, and soprano

 

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http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
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http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

 

READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

 

The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson

 

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#8222 From: "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...>
Date: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:31 am
Subject: Saxgourmet SAXOPHONE MUTES are now in stock! 		saxgourmet
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I predict this will be the “accessory item of the year”…..we’ve got ‘em for alto, tenor, and soprano

 

004.JPG

 

 

sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc

STEVE GOODSON

SAXOPHONE DESIGNER TO THE STARS

 

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Steve is a member of

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PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
http://www.saxgourmet.com/  (saxophone history and information)
http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

 

READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

 

The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson

 

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#8221 From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:51 pm
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Steve:
Sorry, I forgot the html after my web address. Also there is a _ between the first music and trader.
 
Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:35 PM
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Business name: The Music Trader

Website: http://www.musictrader.com/mtindex.html

Email: music_trader@musictrader.com

Phone: 425-413-4343

Hours of operation: M - Th 10AM to 7PM -- Fri - Sat 10Am - 6PM

Year established: 1994 (this business, however I have been a pro since 1962)



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#8220 From: "Lars Kirmser" <syrinx@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:35 pm
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Business name: The Music Trader

Website: http://www.musictrader.com/mtindex 

Email: music_trader@...

Phone: 425-413-4343

Hours of operation: M - Th 10AM to 7PM -- Fri - Sat 10Am - 6PM

Year established: 1994 (this business, however I have been a pro since 1962)



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#8219 From: "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:21 pm
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I’m going to add a technician directory to one of my web sites………if you are in the business FULL time (and want to be listed), please send me the following:

 

Business name

Website

Email

Phone

Hours of operation

Year established

 

 

 

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PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
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http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

 

READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

 

The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson

 

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#8218 From: "STEVE GOODSON" <saxgourmet@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 8:35 pm
Subject: Got my computer back............ 		saxgourmet
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Just got my computer back from the Geek Squad………..I’ve been limping along on my old Dell since last Monday………if you sent anything and did not get a reply, please re-send.

 

BTW, Geek Squad is a wonderful service……reasonable in price and quite professional…….the manager at our store told me they service 400 computers in a typical week at the store we use……..do the math…..$$$$$$$$$

 

 

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PLEASE VISIT MY WEBSITES
http://www.nationofmusic.com/ (retail sales and discussion forum)
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/SaxophoneRepair/  (discussion group)
http://www.saxgourmet.com/  (saxophone history and information)
http://saxophonethoughts.blogspot.com/  (my personal saxophone blog)

 

READ MY ARTICLES ON SAXOPHONE DESIGN IN EACH ISSUE OF THE SAXOPHONE JOURNAL
The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves

BASIC SHOP RATE................$100/HR

IF YOU WATCH.....................$125/HR

IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS......$150/HR

IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO A CONCERT

LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES WHEN

YOU PICK UP YOUR HORN....$250/HR

 

The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Hunter S. Thompson

 

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#8217 From: John Gordon <jgcab15@...>
Date: Thu Nov 12, 2009 2:51 am
Subject: Re: to all who has served in the armed forces.. 		jg152001
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Amen

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:41 PM, bantyrooster <bantyrooster3660@...> wrote:
 

i just wanted to pay my respects to all who has served/ and is currantly serving in the U.S.A. armed forces... thankyou for my freedom,, and for all that you do and did..i can never repay you for this..for that i am greatful to you.. god bless you all,,and may peace be with you and yours,,,forever..P.J.




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