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RE: [Scrittipolitti] A Few Points

Interesting points Bob. I never thought that Green would tread the boards
again. But then I got this from a Vic Goddard news letter tonight (The
Bitter Springs are a sometime Vic backup band):
"BITTER SPRINGS
The new springs lp THAT SENTIMENTAL SLUSH (and very good it sounds too)
Release date is Monday February the 13th
Harvey records through cargo distribution,catalogue number Harvey CD001
GIG
Brixton Windmill on Saturday 7th of Jan
with support from .....oddly enough Geen from Scritti Politti's new band
Double G & The Traitorous 3"

Wow!! I think I may have to make the trekdown to Brixton for thisne.
Tried googling the ban name, but it only came up with this gig!!

Andrew T


>From: Bobeira G <rcgaulke@...>
>Reply-To: Scrittipolitti@yahoogroups.com
>To: Scrittipolitti@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Scrittipolitti] A Few Points
>Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:25:42 -0800 (PST)
>
>Hi Richard,
>
>A few thoughts come to mind...
>
>1. A&B was probably Green's last shot on a major
>label.
>
>Looking back, it was amazing it was made at all. I
>think the biggest reason it tanked was Virgin America,
>which probably had no knowledge/interest in the
>record. It would have been a no-brainer for them to
>market the album through hip-hop channels, as
>Mos-Def's star was in ascendancy at the time. Instead,
>the album appeared in 1 dollar bins across the States
>with a sticker on it saying something like, "Hey!
>Remember those New Wave Guys who wrote Perfect Way?".
>
>2. I doubt the "Early" compilation sold more than a
>few thousand, worldwide.
>
>There is no reason to think any future Green product
>will do any better as it has been more than 20 years
>since Green had a hit.
>
>How many Britons under 30 know what a Scritti Politti
>is?
>
>Geoff Travis probably has an advertising budget
>smaller than my bank account. If the new album sounds
>like the new track, it will not interest many people
>outside of this list. A Mojo article and some
>interviews might add a few thousand to his sales, but
>will not expand his fanbase significantly.
>
>3. Green has a few options left.
>
>A. Negotiate a greatest hits package with Virgin. He
>hasn't done this yet, probably a good idea he hasn't.
>He'll want to call it "Late", but they will insist on
>calling it "Greatest Hits". He could license a track
>and make some money as well.
>
>B. Play Live. Pharmaceuticals have come a long way in
>20 years. Perhaps there's now a pill for stage fright.
> Playing live is still the only way to build a fan
>base. His work can be admired by Paul McCartney, he
>can number Joni Mitchell amongst his acquaintances, he
>can disparage the work of Elvis Costello, but these
>artists have all stayed in the public's mind because
>they have stayed on the road.
>
>Even if the album is just middling, songs come to life
>when you play them and arrange them with other
>musicians.
>
>C. Retire. How many other songwriters of his
>generation are still going? How many still have hits?
>How many do you care about? Not many. The
>Anglo-American music system is dying and I'm happy as
>it has not nurtured any significant new talent in the
>last two decades. Green will be in his mid 50's if he
>puts out another record. Who will buy it?
>
>Well, many other things could happen. Technology is
>always creating new things. He could fall in love hard
>and gain a lot of new inspiration. Who knows? Fingers
>still crossed.
>
>Bob G
>
>--- Richard Wallis <rjwallis__@...> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to all who discovered this and made it
> > available. When Green
> > talked in 1991 about the stuff he'd been demoing in
> > his cottage this
> > is the sort of thing I might have expected. After
> > the 'no-synths'
> > policy of A+B (which is probably my favourite of his
> > 4 albums) it's
> > a bit of a surprise. I think you make a really good
> > point, Bob - I'm
> > also a bit worried about Green playing everything
> > (even though I do
> > love his guitar-playing). He's always been so great
> > at getting the
> > best out of other musicians. I know he no longer has
> > a major label
> > behind him but surely it can't just be a financial
> > decision. Maybe
> > he just wanted to find a less stressful way to make
> > a record.
> >
> > I wonder if this is the finished version. The main
> > melody sounds OK
> > if a bit pedestrian punctuated by a brilliant
> > passage "To the beat,
> > to the beat, to the beat..." Then, towards the end,
> > it's like an
> > Andy Partridge (XTC) melody has been grafted on
> > "I'll wait til
> > December, baby". In fact it sounds so like him I
> > wouldn't be shocked
> > if it turned out he co-wrote it!
> >
> > I can't imagine that this won't be a 'decent' album
> > - I'm just
> > thrilled to hear from him again.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --- In Scrittipolitti@yahoogroups.com, Bobeira G
> > <rcgaulke@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi John,
> > >
> > > Thanks for posting the song. What did you think of
> > it?
> > >
> > > I am probably in a minority on this list in
> > thinking
> > > "A&B" as one of Green's best.
> > >
> > > In this new song, he seems pretty depressed
> > actually;
> > > there seemed to be a bit of depression creeping
> > into
> > > his last album.
> > >
> > > Also, he is recycling the nursery rhyme bit,
> > something
> > > he did on "Sugar & Spice".
> > >
> > > My worry is that since he is playing all the
> > > instruments himself, the music will be dull. He is
> > a
> > > fantastic songwriter, but I don't think he would
> > claim
> > > to be a skilled musician.
> > >
> > > There is a temptation with all the new technology
> > for
> > > artists to do everything themselves. I think they
> > like
> > > the feeling of control it gives them.
> > >
> > > Have you tried Garageband? It's pretty easy to
> > make
> > > something yourself, in fact, the BBC did a piece
> > on
> > > their website recently about how most people are
> > now
> > > trying to make their own a/v entertainment. I
> > think
> > > it's basically a good thing, but it creates a
> > dilemma
> > > for an artist like Green; he has make the meal we
> > > can't make at home.
> > >
> > > To me, the new scritti song sounds like a demo.
> > >
> > > Let's hope he's got some new tricks up his sleeve.
> > >
> > > Happy New Years,
> > >
> > > Bob G
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Here is a link to a coomplete version of the song: http://homepage.mac.com/johnhyde/iMovieTheater327.html John...
John Hyde
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Dec 24, 2005
8:15 pm

Hi John, Thanks for posting the song. What did you think of it? I am probably in a minority on this list in thinking "A&B" as one of Green's best. In this new...
Bobeira G
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Dec 26, 2005
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when have Green NOT made anything decent? we all have our FAVS...BUT even in that, our least liked material still isnt all bad :-) he can puke over some tracks...
spook-1
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Dec 26, 2005
8:34 pm

Hello Bob, ... I like A&B a lot. ... Is he playing all instrument by himself. IS that documented somewhere? ... Could you show me the link, I am interested to...
Marco Raaphorst
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Dec 27, 2005
8:02 am

Hi Marco, Here's the link of the BBC series, re: diy entertainment: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4110230.stm Green mentioned during the radio...
Bobeira G
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Dec 27, 2005
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Hi Bob, ... Great, thanks! Green mentioned during the radio interview for 'Early' that he was working ... Yes, I do. I am still listening to Djavan, Gilberto...
Marco Raaphorst
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Dec 27, 2005
8:54 am

I've been listening to this repeatedly from the BBC link (Don Letts did a good job as DJ I thought), along with the new Underworld stuff. It's a bloody good...
captain davros
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Dec 28, 2005
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I have been listening to this as well over and over. I think he successfully can play off any song, whether it is a big production, or a few instruments-all...
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Dec 28, 2005
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Thanks to all who discovered this and made it available. When Green talked in 1991 about the stuff he'd been demoing in his cottage this is the sort of thing I...
Richard Wallis
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Dec 30, 2005
7:41 pm

Let's hope Green will sign an internet friendly label, one that's not exclusive. I want him on my DiSfish.com label but we are probably too small for him and ...
Marco Raaphorst
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Dec 30, 2005
8:39 pm

Hi Richard, A few thoughts come to mind... 1. A&B was probably Green's last shot on a major label. Looking back, it was amazing it was made at all. I think the...
Bobeira G
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Dec 31, 2005
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Interesting points Bob. I never thought that Green would tread the boards again. But then I got this from a Vic Goddard news letter tonight (The Bitter Springs...
Andrew Tucker
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Jan 2, 2006
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Hey Andrew Is that green gig for real? Sounds too good to be true! I found the gig listed on their web site ...
hangthedj
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Jan 3, 2006
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Well, I'm totally shocked! I couldn't forgive myself if I missed it, especially as I'm not working this Saturday, for a change. At the same time the thought of...
Richard Wallis
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Jan 3, 2006
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I contacted the venue in Brixton and to ask if this gig will include Green in DOUBLE G & THE TRAITOROUS 3. Got this reply... ... cheers" Sounds very promising,...
hangthedj
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Jan 4, 2006
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I emailed the legendary Geoff Travis (Rough Trade founder and Green's current manager I believe) and got this response... "hello, yes this saturday night at...
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Jan 4, 2006
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wow! but if I search on http://www.windmillbrixton.co.uk/Months/2006JanuaryA.html I can't find anythin on 'green' or 'scritti'. what am I doing wrong? Regards,...
Marco Raaphorst
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Jan 4, 2006
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Wow! At first i didn't believe it, i mean, how long has it been since 'double G' played live? 20 years or more? I caught myself checking prices for the boat or...
ellenlfs
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Jan 4, 2006
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Well, if Jandek can come out of hiding after 20-odd years, maybe Green can too... ... Green's ... friends ... include ... announcing...
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Jan 5, 2006
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Now that everything is laptop friendly I'll bet live is an easier thing to do. And I'd like to know who The Traitorous Three are...is there any chance Gamson...
David Messenger
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Jan 3, 2006
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I'm not totally convinced its for real, but will probably have to go anyway. Updates on Vic are available via Motion Records: http://www.motionrecords.com/ You...
Andrew Tucker
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Jan 4, 2006
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Hello Does anyone else have any more news on this? Is anyone else going down to check out the gig regardless? CD ... From: "Richard Wallis"...
captain davros
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Jan 5, 2006
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I'm definitely going - what with living in London and having a rare Saturday off work I would never forgive myself if I didn't. Richard ... down to ... it, ......
Richard Wallis
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Jan 5, 2006
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This sounds like a leak. ... the boards ... (The ... good it sounds too) ... Harvey CD001 ... new band ... thisne....
Brian
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Jan 3, 2006
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am i mad? i'm actually on the brink of booking an international flight to see a fucking pub gig! $470 RT, New York - London is seeming more and more sane at...
Brian
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Jan 4, 2006
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Hey Brian, Wow! That's great. I once convinced a girlfriend to fly me from West Coast US to Paris to see a Les Rita Mitsouko gig. I was just thinking. Maybe we...
Bobeira G
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Hey Brian, Wow! That's great. I once convinced a girlfriend to fly me from West Coast US to Paris to see a Les Rita Mitsouko gig. I was just thinking. Maybe we...
Bobeira G
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