Hi Everyone,
    I think as we start developing this project and getting it off the
ground, we should update our timeline to show what has been
accomplished so far.  One success that we have achieved so far is the
networking of about 19 or 20 musicians and artisans from different
parts of the country.  And I bet in a short time the number of people
involved in this project is going to increase significantly.  About
two years ago, I remember sitting in on an interview of Lukas Foss,
avant-garde composer who teaches at Boston University, speaking about
how correspondence was a great tool amongst composers and musicians
about 50 years ago, when they would write to eachother from all over
the globe, discussing concepts that they were experimenting with in
their playing, about successes and catastrophes they were facing as
musicians.  I can already see that this project will be successful in
bringing together musicians and artists from all over.
    Best of luck to all of you.

-Greg Williams

Hi Ruby and all,
    I don't think he's an artist, but he does have a pretty good
business mind.  I'm going to try to meet with him post-recital, (after
April 2nd), to try to discuss some ideas, but I also wanted to hold
off until after all ye in San Fran work things out.  That's awesome
that you guys are meeting tonight, and with Elly's friend, who is
potentially backing us financially.  Keep us posted and let us know
what can be done from the Eastern half of the country.

-Greg

----- Original Message -----

From: Ruby Fulton

To: ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: [ThisLandIsOurLand] An interpretation of ideas, and some of my own

Greg and all,

I'm glad you're in touch with someone who knows a lot
about reaching the student population.  (is he an
arteeeest?  can we get him on our group?)  The website
idea is a good one, although I think we need a
stronger, larger e-group going on before branching out
on the web.  I also agree with Ian that we need to go
back to "A" before tackling "L, M, N, O, P".  A is a
clear, straight-forward goal.  But that's not to say
that any LMNOP thoughts are not appreciated, and
getting a flow of ideas is most definitely a good
thing.  In other words, my email has no point!  Too
much cold medicine.  Anyway, keep up the good work.
We'll talk soon.

-Ruby

--- Greg Williams <gwilviol@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>    About a week or so ago, I was in contact with a
> friend of mine
> who did field work for John Kerry in Southern
> Florida during the
> election, and was instrumental in the student
> movement of his
> campaign in Boston and New Hampshire.  Some of the
> ideas he
> suggested I don't quite agree with, and I don't
> think pitching this
> as a cross country carnival is going to be the most
> beneficial way
> at getting our message across.  However, I plan to
> try to meet with
> him after my recital, and get some more feedback out
> of him. 
>     One thing he suggested, which I do think is a
> good idea, is the
> idea of creating a more legitimate website, perhaps
> as an offshoot
> of this.  It would also be a way to raise money
> through the sale of
> t-shirts or something like that, or for the sake of
> donations,
> similar to the method used by online groups such as
> "MoveOn.org" or
> Howard Dean's Campaign.  He also suggested the idea
> of mapping where
> we are and where we're going as part of our tour, so
> that "groupies"
> of sorts can follow our progress as we travel across
> country. 
>      My suggestion to all ye out in SanFrancisco who
> plan on meeting
> in the next few weeks is to find someone who has the
> knowhow and
> time to build up a website.  We should also try to
> figure out the
> legalese that goes with raising money online, and
> also, Ruby, we
> should try to find out through Elly's friend in
> ASCAP how we can get
> a hold of Woody Guthrie's widow on obtaining the
> rights to quote his
> song. 
>      As a plus side, it's the end of March, and we
> have about 18 (or
> a dozen and a half) members amongst us, spanning
> both coasts.  And
> from what I've gathered from our polls (which you
> guys should
> seriously check out,) the majority of us seem to be
> Composers and
> Violists, the irony in that. 
>      Now onward to my reading.  Good luck to
> everyone in San Fran on
> the Art Song Competition.
>
> -Greg Williams
>
>
>
>


           
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Greg and all,

I'm glad you're in touch with someone who knows a lot
about reaching the student population.  (is he an
arteeeest?  can we get him on our group?)  The website
idea is a good one, although I think we need a
stronger, larger e-group going on before branching out
on the web.  I also agree with Ian that we need to go
back to "A" before tackling "L, M, N, O, P".  A is a
clear, straight-forward goal.  But that's not to say
that any LMNOP thoughts are not appreciated, and
getting a flow of ideas is most definitely a good
thing.  In other words, my email has no point!  Too
much cold medicine.  Anyway, keep up the good work.
We'll talk soon.

-Ruby

--- Greg Williams <gwilviol@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>    About a week or so ago, I was in contact with a
> friend of mine
> who did field work for John Kerry in Southern
> Florida during the
> election, and was instrumental in the student
> movement of his
> campaign in Boston and New Hampshire.  Some of the
> ideas he
> suggested I don't quite agree with, and I don't
> think pitching this
> as a cross country carnival is going to be the most
> beneficial way
> at getting our message across.  However, I plan to
> try to meet with
> him after my recital, and get some more feedback out
> of him.
>     One thing he suggested, which I do think is a
> good idea, is the
> idea of creating a more legitimate website, perhaps
> as an offshoot
> of this.  It would also be a way to raise money
> through the sale of
> t-shirts or something like that, or for the sake of
> donations,
> similar to the method used by online groups such as
> "MoveOn.org" or
> Howard Dean's Campaign.  He also suggested the idea
> of mapping where
> we are and where we're going as part of our tour, so
> that "groupies"
> of sorts can follow our progress as we travel across
> country.
>      My suggestion to all ye out in SanFrancisco who
> plan on meeting
> in the next few weeks is to find someone who has the
> knowhow and
> time to build up a website.  We should also try to
> figure out the
> legalese that goes with raising money online, and
> also, Ruby, we
> should try to find out through Elly's friend in
> ASCAP how we can get
> a hold of Woody Guthrie's widow on obtaining the
> rights to quote his
> song.
>      As a plus side, it's the end of March, and we
> have about 18 (or
> a dozen and a half) members amongst us, spanning
> both coasts.  And
> from what I've gathered from our polls (which you
> guys should
> seriously check out,) the majority of us seem to be
> Composers and
> Violists, the irony in that.
>      Now onward to my reading.  Good luck to
> everyone in San Fran on
> the Art Song Competition.
>
> -Greg Williams
>
>
>
>



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Hey All San Franciscans,

Elly spoke with our potential funder, George Sarlo,
who is excited about our ideas and wants to have us
over to his house to hear our plan and ask us
questions and decide if he wants to give us a lot of
money.  So we need to meet asap and formulate a very
definite plan, starting all the way from square 1.
Ian and I will be at Eagles (on Noriega by the
Conservatory, between a 19th and 20th ave) a little
after 10pm tonight, anyone who could join, that would
be great.  The more brains, the better.

Non-San Franciscans- I'll email what we come up with
tonight so we can get your input as well.

Cheers,
-Ruby





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----- Original Message -----

From: Greg Williams

To: ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 10:21 PM

Subject: [ThisLandIsOurLand] An interpretation of ideas, and some of my own

Hi Everyone,
   About a week or so ago, I was in contact with a friend of mine
who did field work for John Kerry in Southern Florida during the
election, and was instrumental in the student movement of his
campaign in Boston and New Hampshire.  Some of the ideas he
suggested I don't quite agree with, and I don't think pitching this
as a cross country carnival is going to be the most beneficial way
at getting our message across.  However, I plan to try to meet with
him after my recital, and get some more feedback out of him. 
    One thing he suggested, which I do think is a good idea, is the
idea of creating a more legitimate website, perhaps as an offshoot
of this.  It would also be a way to raise money through the sale of
t-shirts or something like that, or for the sake of donations,
similar to the method used by online groups such as "MoveOn.org" or
Howard Dean's Campaign.  He also suggested the idea of mapping where
we are and where we're going as part of our tour, so that "groupies"
of sorts can follow our progress as we travel across country. 
     My suggestion to all ye out in SanFrancisco who plan on meeting
in the next few weeks is to find someone who has the knowhow and
time to build up a website.  We should also try to figure out the
legalese that goes with raising money online, and also, Ruby, we
should try to find out through Elly's friend in ASCAP how we can get
a hold of Woody Guthrie's widow on obtaining the rights to quote his
song. 
     As a plus side, it's the end of March, and we have about 18 (or
a dozen and a half) members amongst us, spanning both coasts.  And
from what I've gathered from our polls (which you guys should
seriously check out,) the majority of us seem to be Composers and
Violists, the irony in that. 
     Now onward to my reading.  Good luck to everyone in San Fran on
the Art Song Competition.

-Greg Williams

Hi Everyone,
    About a week or so ago, I was in contact with a friend of mine
who did field work for John Kerry in Southern Florida during the
election, and was instrumental in the student movement of his
campaign in Boston and New Hampshire.  Some of the ideas he
suggested I don't quite agree with, and I don't think pitching this
as a cross country carnival is going to be the most beneficial way
at getting our message across.  However, I plan to try to meet with
him after my recital, and get some more feedback out of him.
     One thing he suggested, which I do think is a good idea, is the
idea of creating a more legitimate website, perhaps as an offshoot
of this.  It would also be a way to raise money through the sale of
t-shirts or something like that, or for the sake of donations,
similar to the method used by online groups such as "MoveOn.org" or
Howard Dean's Campaign.  He also suggested the idea of mapping where
we are and where we're going as part of our tour, so that "groupies"
of sorts can follow our progress as we travel across country.
      My suggestion to all ye out in SanFrancisco who plan on meeting
in the next few weeks is to find someone who has the knowhow and
time to build up a website.  We should also try to figure out the
legalese that goes with raising money online, and also, Ruby, we
should try to find out through Elly's friend in ASCAP how we can get
a hold of Woody Guthrie's widow on obtaining the rights to quote his
song.
      As a plus side, it's the end of March, and we have about 18 (or
a dozen and a half) members amongst us, spanning both coasts.  And
from what I've gathered from our polls (which you guys should
seriously check out,) the majority of us seem to be Composers and
Violists, the irony in that.
      Now onward to my reading.  Good luck to everyone in San Fran on
the Art Song Competition.

-Greg Williams

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Definitely Right on!  I agree with it at least. -Greg

> "Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by
being governed by those who are dumber."  -Plato
>
> too harsh or right on?
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>   To: ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:46 PM
>   Subject: [ThisLandIsOurLand] Really great quote that sums its
all up.
>
>
>
>   " In a world of political, economic and personal disintegrations
music
>   is not a luxury but a necessity -- not simply because it
>   is "therapeutic," nor because it is the "universal language,"
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YES!  Playdough rules.  You can eat it, too.  I'll
post that quote.
-Ruby

--- Ian Dickenson <macktheknife64@...> wrote:

> "Those who are too smart to engage in politics are
> punished by being governed by those who are dumber."
>  -Plato
>
> too harsh or right on?
>   ----- Original Message -----
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>   Subject: [ThisLandIsOurLand] Really great quote
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>
>
>
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>   is not a luxury but a necessity -- not simply
> because it
>   is "therapeutic," nor because it is the "universal
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----- Original Message -----

From: Greg Williams

To: ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:46 PM

Subject: [ThisLandIsOurLand] Really great quote that sums its all up.

" In a world of political, economic and personal disintegrations music
is not a luxury but a necessity -- not simply because it
is "therapeutic," nor because it is the "universal language," but
because it is the persistent focus of man's intelligence, aspiration
and good-will. "
- Robert Shaw

Greg,
Yeah!  We should post that on the e-group page.  I
have a copy of Elly's letter that I want to post all
or excerpts of as well..
-Ruby
p.s. what are you doing up at 2am you crazy bastard?
don't you have sight-singing at 8am or something, HA


--- Greg Williams <gwilviol@...> wrote:

>
> " In a world of political, economic and personal
> disintegrations music
> is not a luxury but a necessity -- not simply
> because it
> is "therapeutic," nor because it is the "universal
> language," but
> because it is the persistent focus of man's
> intelligence, aspiration
> and good-will. "
> - Robert Shaw
>
>
>
>
>


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" In a world of political, economic and personal disintegrations music
is not a luxury but a necessity -- not simply because it
is "therapeutic," nor because it is the "universal language," but
because it is the persistent focus of man's intelligence, aspiration
and good-will. "
- Robert Shaw

Greg,

I like your changes, except for the narrow-minded
mentality part.. Narrow-minded implies small brain,
dig?

-Ruby

--- Greg Williams <gwilviol@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Ruby,
>    Speaking of revamping, I took a stab at adjusting
> the mission
> statement, so that it's a little more benign, and
> not so focused on
> partisan politics.  Let me know what you guys think,
> and if we should
> try to make any major adjustments to it.
>
> -Greg
>
>
>
>


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Cool discovery, there's a calendar on this webpage.  Feel free to post
your upcoming recitals and events on here!

-Greg

Hi Ruby,
    Speaking of revamping, I took a stab at adjusting the mission
statement, so that it's a little more benign, and not so focused on
partisan politics.  Let me know what you guys think, and if we should
try to make any major adjustments to it.

-Greg

Hi Everyone,

Based on feedback from numerous sources- Katie, Ian,
Sarah, Jon Russell, Ryan, Elly, etc- it seems like we
need to make some pretty huge changes in our plan.
The Red/Blue mumbo jumbo is seeming more and more
self-destructive and one-sided.  I'm all for
redirecting towards a more "common ground" approach.
I love Ian's idea of getting together for a
brainstorming dinner or lunch or beer or something.
(those of us in SF, anyway).  I see the next steps as:

1. coming up with a common ground plan with very
specific goals

2. getting as many interested people as possible from
all over the place on board

3. figuring out the practical facets- funding, etc

Soooooooooo... let's get together and talk, any of us
who can.  We could meet at my apt. in the sunset,
maybe an upcoming Friday, Sat or Sun. evening?  Is
anyone free this next Saturday (4/2) or Sunday (4/3),
7ish?  Let's get this going on.

yours,
-Ruby





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Ian -

This is George, one of Ruby Fulton's friends from undergrad.  Congrats
on winning the Highsmith competition, and good luck on the premiere.

Would love to hear a recording of it when you get it - as well as
anything else that you might have.

Congrats again!


George Lam


On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 01:00:29 -0800, Ian Dickenson
<macktheknife64@...> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> ...After two weeks of silently biting my tongue and attempting to keep this
> great news secret until it was made public, it was finally announced today
> that I won the 2005 Jim Highsmith Composition Competition for orchestra.
>
> My composition Nobody Doubts He's an Evil Man was chosen by a 3-judge panel
> over many outstanding submissions, and is being given it's world premiere on
> SATURDAY, APRIL 30th, 2005 at the San Francisco Conservatory of Music by the
> Conservatory Orchestra, maestro David Ramadanoff conducting.  It is sharing
> the bill with Rota's Trombone Concerto and Shostakovich's 5th Symphony (a
> perfect combination!).
>
> Nobody Doubts He's an Evil Man is, admittedly, a politically and emotionally
> charged piece of music that saw it's birth as the United States launched
> it's assault on Iraq in March of 2003.  I took a class during my undergrad
> at Sonoma State called the "War and Peace Lecture Series" (not on the
> book...on the topics of war and peace), and one lecture was about what we as
> ordinary citizens can do to positively and civilly voice our opposition to
> war.  It inspired me to write this piece, and I've labored over it for two
> years as the war has unfolded.  It has gone through several drafts, and I
> have had to make painfully difficult creative decisions as to what I should
> and shouldn't include in the final score - often grinding my teeth out of
> fear of "offending" anyone, as many composers have done before.  The reason
> I find it so appropriate that Shostakovich's 5th Symphony was programmed
> with my piece is because Shostakovich was told by Russian dictator Joseph
> Stalin to write "patriotic Russian music", or meet the wrath of Stalin's
> secret police if he didn't comply.  Shostakovich wrote a piece about which
> he later said "...this is the sound of a crowd cheering when they are TOLD
> to cheer..."  That said, I think this will be an amazingly introspective
> concert.
>
> I REALLY hope everyone can make it.  The San Francisco Conservatory is at
> 1201 Ortega Street @ 19th Ave. in San Francisco.  Their website www.sfcm.edu
> will surely have info posted in the coming weeks.  I'll send out another
> reminder the week of, but mark your calendars and stay tuned!
>
>
> All the best, Ian
>
>
> Ian Dickenson
> macktheknife64@...
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listen online: http://www.gtlam.com

Hey Katie,
    I think you're right, our message definitely does need to be
subtle, so that people would come.  Even among various Yahoo Musician
Groups, I have seen some opposition, (suprising considering most
musicians tend to be liberals,) and even one group that would not let
me post a message because it was to them biased.  (I think it was the
violinist group.)
    We might want to start rephrasing "Red" states, so as not to turn
people off, and say that we would be going on a national tour,
perhaps going from California to Washington D.C., with several stops
in between.  Heck, California is a blue state, and in D.C. 90% of the
population voted for Kerry.  It's just everything in between that
went the way of Bush.
     Also congrats Ian on your piece.  That's really awesome, and it
sounds like a really exciting program, if paired with Shosty #5.

-Greg

--- In ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com, "astha_kt" <astha_kt@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> I've been asked if I would like to join in on the brainstorming
> process for this group project, so I have an idea I'd like to throw
> out for you all.  I'd like to encourage the group to think very
> carefully about approaching people whose ideas may seem to conflict
> with the views of group members, particularly when focusing on the
> Bush administration.  It may be especially helpful to consider a
> subtler level where people are more the same and more approachable.
>
> Most people aren't opposed to making responsible decisions or being
> involved with politics and the government as ordinary citizens.
> Also, I feel that every person has the capacity to act in a way
that
> benefits others.  When dealing with sensitive issues where people
> tend to be taking sides, I think it's useful to look for common
> ground.
>
> I'm writing this because I feel that this group has a good
> combination of creativity, wisdom, and something that might be
> described as vigor.  This group can empower people in a positive
way,
> and it will.  I'm sure of that.  However the project may turn out
to
> be, it can only be helpful to bring attention to diverse viewpoints
> in the beginning stages.
>
> All the best,
> Katie Fulton

CONGRATULATIONS IAN!!!!

BRAVO TO YOU!!

Robin

----- Original Message -----

From: astha_kt

To: ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:29 PM

Subject: [ThisLandIsOurLand] something to think about

Hi everybody,

I've been asked if I would like to join in on the brainstorming
process for this group project, so I have an idea I'd like to throw
out for you all.  I'd like to encourage the group to think very
carefully about approaching people whose ideas may seem to conflict
with the views of group members, particularly when focusing on the
Bush administration.  It may be especially helpful to consider a
subtler level where people are more the same and more approachable.

Most people aren't opposed to making responsible decisions or being
involved with politics and the government as ordinary citizens. 
Also, I feel that every person has the capacity to act in a way that
benefits others.  When dealing with sensitive issues where people
tend to be taking sides, I think it's useful to look for common
ground.

I'm writing this because I feel that this group has a good
combination of creativity, wisdom, and something that might be
described as vigor.  This group can empower people in a positive way,
and it will.  I'm sure of that.  However the project may turn out to
be, it can only be helpful to bring attention to diverse viewpoints
in the beginning stages.

All the best,
Katie Fulton

Hi everybody,

I've been asked if I would like to join in on the brainstorming
process for this group project, so I have an idea I'd like to throw
out for you all.  I'd like to encourage the group to think very
carefully about approaching people whose ideas may seem to conflict
with the views of group members, particularly when focusing on the
Bush administration.  It may be especially helpful to consider a
subtler level where people are more the same and more approachable.

Most people aren't opposed to making responsible decisions or being
involved with politics and the government as ordinary citizens.
Also, I feel that every person has the capacity to act in a way that
benefits others.  When dealing with sensitive issues where people
tend to be taking sides, I think it's useful to look for common
ground.

I'm writing this because I feel that this group has a good
combination of creativity, wisdom, and something that might be
described as vigor.  This group can empower people in a positive way,
and it will.  I'm sure of that.  However the project may turn out to
be, it can only be helpful to bring attention to diverse viewpoints
in the beginning stages.

All the best,
Katie Fulton

Hi Y'all,
    This is from an email I received from a friend of mine, Dan
Hoffer, who worked in the campaign offices of John Kerry in Florida,
with a few suggestions.  I plan to meet with him sometime over the
next few days.

-Greg Williams

From: Daniel Hoffer
To: Greg Williams
Subject: re: Hey Dan
Message: Greg,
Good to hear from you. Well, are you starting a road show or a
movement? I think a great pitch would to do a cross country carnival,
like a moving artists colony that starts in San Fran and moves cross
county to D.C. and eventually invades D.C. inundating the city with
musicains, mystics, librals and Dreamers and yes dirty hypies. But
this should be no simple cross county music tour. No this should take
more than a year. Allowing word to spread on the ground and
attracting more people at each show. This builds crowds and momentum,
plus you have a very definit destination. Every body knows where your
going. This is powerful stuff.
About money start small on the ground, with fundraisers and
merchendice ie CDs, braclettes, anti bush hip hoppy Posters.
But when dealing with venture capital go big or not at all, these
people know it takes money to make money so shoot for the sky-- you
might get it.
Get a website! Yahoo groups are over rated. Find a members who know
how to make a website a get it up asap. Building online membership is
key to raising money. Plus people can donate throught the website.
Come to the BUCD meeting in CAS B18A Tuesday March 22nd we'll talk
more.
-Dan

I just happened to checking out blue counties in Arkansas, and
discovered that these counties are a lot bluer, since many of the
counties in Arkansas that went to Bush have booming populations,
while the counties that went to Kerry, mostly along the Mississippi
River, were declining in population, or faced minimal growth.  I'm
wondering how much of this growth, (in part burgeoning suburbs), is
a result of stronger leaders in those parts of the state.  I'll
finish that table very soon.

From: Greg Williams

To: ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 10:24 PM

Subject: [ThisLandIsOurLand] Locations for possible performances

As another thought that popped into mind, do we want to perform in
places that are known for being more liberal in Red States?  Or in
parts of states that voted Democratic, even when the majority of
that state went Republican?

Or do we want to go to areas of states that are more Republican than
not?

-Greg

As another thought that popped into mind, do we want to perform in
places that are known for being more liberal in Red States?  Or in
parts of states that voted Democratic, even when the majority of
that state went Republican?

Or do we want to go to areas of states that are more Republican than
not?

-Greg

Will be charging admission for people to attend?  Do we want to use
this money to offset our expenses, or is this money we would be
giving to help develop the communities we're performing in?  Give me
some feedback on this and let me know what you think.

-Greg Williams

Hi Ruby,
    I think everything in here is good thus far, I would ad in the
Challenges "the need for ample press coverage."  Do we want heads to
turn as we are traveling up and down the Mississippi?

-Greg

--- In ThisLandIsOurLand@yahoogroups.com, Ruby Fulton
<rubyfulton@y...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we need a more detailed description for the
> top of the group page.  It should be sexy and clear
> and contain as much of our brainstorming until now.
> How is something like this?  Get back to me with any
> ideas to edit..
>
>
>
> MISSION: to produce and perform a travelling show of
> new art and music promoting peace and power to change.
>  to encourage personal responsibility in political
> choices, focusing especially on red states and on
> youth.
>
> TIMEFRAME:
> now-May 2006: planning, brainstorming, writing music
> June-July 2006: rehearsing and preparing in one
> centralized location
> August 2006: performing the show across the country
>
> CHALLENGES:
> *Reaching those with a "red mentality" or those
> undecided who happen to live in a "red enviornment"
> without making them feel alienated or attacked.
> *Practicalities- attaining sufficient financial
> support, finding venues, advertising.
>
>
> www.geocities.com/rubyfulton
>
>
>
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