it is good that you may recalling the things that a good students should behave.
i am still inspired to leard new things in guitar especaially that i am stilll
young.

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> 3 Reasons Why You May Not Be Getting Big Results From Taking Guitar
> Lessons
>
> by Tom Hess
>
> Have you ever tried taking guitar lessons and ended up quitting in
> frustration, because you felt you weren't making enough progress? Or
> perhaps you have considered taking guitar lessons but because someone
> you know had a disappointing experience with a guitar teacher, you
> began to doubt if lessons are worth investing your time and money. This
> perception prevents you from getting all that you want from your guitar
> lessons.
>
>
>
> There can be many reasons why people quit guitar lessons. Sometimes it
> is because the teacher failed to inspire you, or because the lessons
> weren't focused enough on your specific musical goals, or because
> the
> teacher was only mediocre and didn't know how to help you achieve a
> specific result. (To avoid this problem download this free guide about
> how to choose a guitar teacher
> <http://www.tomhess.net/HowToChooseAGuitarTeacher.aspx> ) However,
> another (often misunderstood)
> reason might be that your own approach to guitar lessons wasn't as
> effective as it needed to be in order for you to make real progress.
>
>
>
> After teaching tens of thousands of music lessons to all types of
> guitarists
> and also mentoring guitar teachers around the world on how to teach
> more effectively, I began to notice similar and consistent patterns used
> by
> most students for learning to play guitar.
>
>
>
> I also noticed that the specific approach the students applied to
> studying
> with a teacher had a direct influence on their progress. Very often 2
> different people can get very different results by studying with the
> same
> guitar teacher, because the ways in which the students approached the
> learning process in general are very different. For example, one student
> believed that he knew better than the teacher did about how to reach his
> musical goals and resisted some of the instruction his teacher was
> giving
> him. It later became very clear to him that he did not know better.
> Click
> on the link to hear his story about how he failed to improve his guitar
> skills <http://tomhess.net/GetGuitarLessonsMistake.aspx> . The other
> student soaked up everything his teacher was instructing
> him to do and quickly became a world class guitar virtuoso.
>
>
>
> I have found there are 3 types of students who become easily frustrated
> with their guitar lessons. As you read the rest of this article, be
> honest
> and ask yourself if any of these 3 descriptions sound like you.
> I'll be the
> first to admit that at one point I had the characteristics of each of
> the
> "ineffective student behaviors" presented below. Looking back
> many
> years later, I now understand that one of the reasons why it took me as
> long as it did to master the guitar (more than 20 years), was due to my
> own inefficient approaches to learning when I began the journey.
>
>
>
> The "Teach me something new today" student type.
>
>
>
> You may think it is common sense that guitar lessons should consist
> mainly of presenting new content, and expect that the guitar
> teacher's
> primary job is to show you things that are "new" to you.
> However, if we
> examine this approach a bit deeper, you will see that focusing
> "only" on
> seeking out new information will not bring big results long term.
>
>
>
> First of all, too much new content quickly leads to overwhelm and burn
> out (and does not allow enough time to apply the information you are
> learning). This feeling of overwhelm is what causes you to become
> frustrated and quit lessons (or worse yet, quit guitar). Second, simply
> "learning new things" does not lead to mastery. I have had
> many
> students come to me being able to do some cool things on guitar. For
> example, they may have good technique, or a good understanding of how
> music works, or have good ears. But more often than not, their ability
> to
> APPLY and INTEGRATE what they "know" to playing music was very
> poor. At this point, "learning more new things" is not going to
> help these
> students to significantly advance their guitar playing. Simply being
> "aware" of a concept is not enough. You don't truly
> "know" something
> until you can apply and integrate it with your other musical skills
> fluently.
>
>
>
> This type of training in applying and integrating what you know is
> probably the single most valuable thing you get out of music lessons and
> is one area of musical development that is almost universally lacking in
> many guitarists. This results in massive frustration and disappointment
> that many guitar players often experience (but often do not realize WHY
> they are frustrated).
>
>
>
> When you take lessons for the first time, you may think that it is great
> that your teacher shows you something new in each lesson. But if your
> teacher does nothing else than "show you things", then as more
> lessons
> go by, you will start to notice that you are not really making any
> significant progress (because no application and integration is taking
> place). Most people will quit lessons at this point, and will continue
> to
> perpetuate the myth that guitar lessons are ineffective, without really
> understanding the real reasons for their lack of progress.
>
>
>
> The type of student who is only interested in learning new things,
> typically does not stick with guitar lessons for very long. If a guitar
> teacher begins to talk about a concept the student may already be
> familiar
> with, the lesson is perceived to be a waste of time. Because these
> students may have heard about this concept from somewhere else, they
> believe that they "already know it".
>
>
>
> Of course, receiving new information is a part of any comprehensive
> lesson plan (and certainly you will learn a lot of new things by taking
> lessons), but it is the order in which this information is presented,
> and the
> way you are trained to USE, APPLY and INTEGRATE that information
> that makes guitar lessons with a good teacher so valuable. If learning
> "raw data" in a linear fashion (and practicing) was all it took
> to become a
> great musician, then anyone could buy some books and after studying
> them for a few years and practicing on his/her own become a highly
> advanced guitarist. Of course most of the time, this doesn't
> happen.
>
>
>
> The moral of the story here is to remember that you came to your teacher
> to learn and grow as a guitar player. In order for this to actually
> happen
> you will need to have some patience through the process and realize that
> sometimes when you `think you know something', you in fact may
> not
> really know it yet to the point that you can apply it and integrate it
> with
> your other musical skills.
>
>
>
> "The Perfectionist"
>
>
>
> The next type of student wants to master every little thing their
> teacher
> presents in a lesson (or that they discover on their own) before working
> on anything else. While on the surface this seems like a good idea, it
> is
> far from the most efficient approach to becoming a great musician.
> Learning music is best done in a non-linear approach, meaning that
> multiple things should be worked on simultaneously without stressing out
> about totally mastering everything in a linear order. Discover more
> about
> why the typical linear approach guitar players follow often fails in
> this
> video about how to master the guitar
> <http://www.tomhess.net/LinearVsGeometricApproach.aspx> .
>
>
>
> I like to compare learning music to baking a cake. You don't make a
> cake by cooking one ingredient at a time and then finally putting them
> together when each one is ready. If you baked your cake in this way, it
> would take you a long time to finish and more importantly the cake
> would not taste as good as when the ingredients are cooked together!
>
>
>
> The same goes for musical skills. If you waited until you became a
> great
> virtuoso master of technique before beginning to work on (mastering)
> music theory, then turning to songwriting, and then switching to
> improvising, it could take you many decades to finally become really
> good and your skills would not likely be integrated together. What I
> recommend to you is to follow a non-linear approach (as described in the
> video above). When learning a new skill, don't wait until you
> completely
> master it; only make sure that you have the fundamentals down and begin
> immediately to look for contexts to apply it. Then work on integrating
> this new skill with everything else that you know how to do/play.
> Application and integration are unique skills that must be practiced
> separately. This key link will enable you to go from being "the
> student"
> who is able to "do lots of things" on the guitar, to becoming a
> great
> player who can use all of his musical skills to achieve complete musical
> expression.
>
>
>
> This (non-linear) approach will also prevent you from getting out of
> balance with your skills and at any level of your musical development,
> you will be able to apply and integrate everything you know. It is
> important to note that a `non-linear approach' is not an
> `illogical'
> approach. So if you are looking for a systematic and logical approach to
> learning guitar, you should understand that this systematic, geometric
> (non-linear) strategy IS in fact the most effective, most efficient and
> most logical path possible.
>
>
>
> The challenger
>
> This personality type often comes out in a player who has been playing
> for a while and has studied with other guitar teachers in the past.
> This
> student may come into their first lesson full of preconceived ideas
> about
> what lessons should be like, and dictating to the teacher what and how
> to
> teach. I should clarify here that I am not talking about asking
> questions
> when you don't understand something or telling your teacher about
> your
> goals. There is a big difference between doing that, and trying to
> dictate
> to the teacher what and how to teach. If the student knew that much
> more
> about teaching than the teacher, then the student would BE the teacher,
> right? If you know how to successfully learn guitar on your own and you
> are TRULY happy with your progress without a teacher, then maybe you
> don't need guitar lessons. But if you seek help from a qualified
> guitar
> teacher, this means you realized that whatever you were doing on your
> own wasn't working as well as you wanted it to. Therefore, you
> should
> accept the fact (or at least the high probability) that your guitar
> teacher
> knows many times more about guitar playing and teaching guitar than
> you do and can successfully teach you to play well. (Otherwise, why
> would you give the teacher your money?) Of course not all guitar
> teachers are the same, and some are much more qualified to teach than
> others. If you follow the advice I give in the guide for choosing a
> guitar
> teacher, you will be sure to find the best teacher for you.
>
>
>
> I always tell my students that in order for them to receive the most
> benefit
> from working with me, it is their job to articulate to me their specific
> musical goals and list their musical challenges. Then it is MY job to
> come up with the most effective strategy possible to solve their
> problems
> and get them to their stated goals as quickly as possible. But in order
> for
> that to happen, they need to have faith in me as a teacher, and commit
> themselves to moving forward together through the learning and training
> process. My most satisfied and advanced students all followed this
> advice.
>
>
>
> If your guitar teacher has already created many great musicians, chances
> are, he knows what he is doing and will be able to help you as well.
> But
> his ability to help you will be limited (and the process will take much
> longer), if you constantly challenge everything he tells you to do.
> Again,
> asking questions about something you don't understand is normal, and
> is
> part of the learning process. But creating the overall lesson plan is
> your
> teacher's primary responsibility, not yours.
>
>
>
> If you recognize yourself as one of the student types described above,
> think about your current approach to learning guitar and change your
> mindset. On the surface it may seem like a small action to take, but
> the
> difference this can make to your guitar playing may be greater than you
> have ever even imagined before!
>
>
>
> Want to know how to choose the right teacher for you? Download the
> free guide on how to choose a guitar teacher
> <http://www.tomhess.net/HowToChooseAGuitarTeacher.aspx>
>
>
>
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>
>
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> teaches guitar players around the world via online guitar lessons
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