hiiee!! its good to have you with us... and nice to know your choice too!! hope
you have fun here!!
ishita pasricha


--- In acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com, bgbgbgbg456 <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Hi nice to meet everyone, some of my favorite accoustic guitars have been
Alvarez and Fender, Yamaha .
>
> I have a blog with my all time favorite songs .
> http://www.yuwie.com/blog/entry.asp?id=573392&eid=589521&t=TOP%20100
>

Welcome aboard....

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM, bgbgbgbg456 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi nice to meet everyone, some of my favorite accoustic guitars have been
> Alvarez and Fender, Yamaha .
>
> I have a blog with my all time favorite songs .
> http://www.yuwie.com/blog/entry.asp?id=573392&eid=589521&t=TOP%20100
>
>

Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a few
questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now. The
tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the strings and
I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just started playing. I
can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering ... Am I supposed
to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I have metal strings.
Cindi

Hi, I am new here too. Welcome to the group!

Welcome aboard Cindi...

As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop
callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the
callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as
an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get
sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.
That's natural also as you build up hand strength.


On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a few
> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.
> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the
> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just started
> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering ...
> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I have
> metal strings. Cindi
>
>

Thanks, Dan. Now that I know it's normal for them to hurt, I have another
question pertaining to this. Will they bleed? I really mean this, because it
seems it will take time for the callouses to develop. And until they do, my
fingers will hurt. Where they push on the string, they're very tender to the
point of really paining when I do that, the indentations are red, yes I know I'm
asking maybe silly questions, but is this what I am to expect? (Not that I mind
because I want to play & sing "Where Does All the Time Go?" and learn the
chords.) Cindi

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Dan Smith <draciron@...> wrote:


From: Dan Smith <draciron@...>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:12 PM








Welcome aboard Cindi...

As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop
callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the
callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as
an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get
sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.
That's natural also as you build up hand strength.

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a few
> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.
> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the
> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just started
> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering ...
> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I have
> metal strings. Cindi
>
>


















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Not normally on an acoustic. The strings are not thin enough. If your
first guitar is an electric it's not uncommon to bleed a little when
learning. If you get serious blisters not the small blisters normally
associated with playing guitar and continue to play through then
there's a chance but it's rather uncommon unless you do some marathon
sessions.

Good to hear. Hope you stick with it. %90 of folks who fail to learn
guitar it's because they never develop the callouses. Once you know
your basic chords and am comfortable changing chords, know a few songs
and have your callouses then your %99 likely to get at least decent on
the guitar. It's really worth it. Whether you play only for yourself
or others there's nothing like music. It's a means of expression like
no other. Well worth the initial pain and aggravation :)

Drac




On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Dan. Now that I know it's normal for them to hurt, I have another
> question pertaining to this. Will they bleed? I really mean this, because it
> seems it will take time for the callouses to develop. And until they do, my
> fingers will hurt. Where they push on the string, they're very tender to the
> point of really paining when I do that, the indentations are red, yes I know
> I'm asking maybe silly questions, but is this what I am to expect? (Not that
> I mind because I want to play & sing "Where Does All the Time Go?" and learn
> the chords.) Cindi
>
> --- On Sun, 5/3/09, Dan Smith <draciron@...> wrote:
>
> From: Dan Smith <draciron@...>
> Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
> To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:12 PM
>
> Welcome aboard Cindi...
>
> As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop
> callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the
> callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as
> an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get
> sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.
> That's natural also as you build up hand strength.
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a few
>> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.
>> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the
>> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just
>> started
>> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering
>> ...
>> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I have
>> metal strings. Cindi
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Hi Cindy, and Hi Dan,

Cindi, Dan is telling you exactly the way it is, but if I may add a comment.
There is little benefit in getting "blisters" as they will eventually peel
off leaving tender sub dermal stuff.
As Dan says practice, practice, but not to extremes. Might I suggest that
you play for about ten/fifteen minutes, but before you get any sort of
blisters, then the next day - try for another 10/15, and then, gradually
build up the playing time, and in this way you might avoid blisters but find
that your fingertips are progressively hardening.

They don' need to be "very" hard, just hard enough to play without being
sore.

The other thing that you should have checked out is the action on your
guitar - this is the height of the strings above the frets. I suggest you
show it to a good shop or to an experienced guitarist to ask them if it is
right.

Do you agree Dan ?

Hope that helps,

Ol' Andy




-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Smith
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:27 PM
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

Not normally on an acoustic. The strings are not thin enough. If your
first guitar is an electric it's not uncommon to bleed a little when
learning. If you get serious blisters not the small blisters normally
associated with playing guitar and continue to play through then
there's a chance but it's rather uncommon unless you do some marathon
sessions.

Good to hear. Hope you stick with it. %90 of folks who fail to learn
guitar it's because they never develop the callouses. Once you know
your basic chords and am comfortable changing chords, know a few songs
and have your callouses then your %99 likely to get at least decent on
the guitar. It's really worth it. Whether you play only for yourself
or others there's nothing like music. It's a means of expression like
no other. Well worth the initial pain and aggravation :)

Drac




On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Dan. Now that I know it's normal for them to hurt, I have another
> question pertaining to this. Will they bleed? I really mean this, because
it
> seems it will take time for the callouses to develop. And until they do,
my
> fingers will hurt. Where they push on the string, they're very tender to
the
> point of really paining when I do that, the indentations are red, yes I
know
> I'm asking maybe silly questions, but is this what I am to expect? (Not
that
> I mind because I want to play & sing "Where Does All the Time Go?" and
learn
> the chords.) Cindi
>
> --- On Sun, 5/3/09, Dan Smith <draciron@...> wrote:
>
> From: Dan Smith <draciron@...>
> Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
> To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:12 PM
>
> Welcome aboard Cindi...
>
> As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop
> callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the
> callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as
> an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get
> sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.
> That's natural also as you build up hand strength.
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@ yahoo.com>
wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a
few
>> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.
>> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the
>> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just
>> started
>> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering
>> ...
>> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I
have
>> metal strings. Cindi
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>


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Hi Cindi,
Bleeding fingers is actually the least probable thing I feel would happen to
anyone. My advice dont push too hard, when you fell your fingers are tired and
you feel them hurt, take some minutes off. Let them relax a bit and then play.
About bleeding, it may happen if you play slides on the first string but again
very less chance of it.
Alok

--- On Sun, 3/5/09, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@...> wrote:

From: Cindi Waters <clean_boost@...>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 3 May, 2009, 9:49 PM

















       Thanks, Dan. Now that I know it's normal for them to hurt, I have another
question pertaining to this. Will they bleed? I really mean this, because it
seems it will take time for the callouses to develop. And until they do, my
fingers will hurt. Where they push on the string, they're very tender to the
point of really paining when I do that, the indentations are red, yes I know I'm
asking maybe silly questions, but is this what I am to expect? (Not that I mind
because I want to play & sing "Where Does All the Time Go?" and learn the
chords.) Cindi



--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com> wrote:



From: Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com>

Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:12 PM



Welcome aboard Cindi...



As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop

callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the

callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as

an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get

sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.

That's natural also as you build up hand strength.



On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>

> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a few

> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.

> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the

> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just started

> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering ...

> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I have

> metal strings. Cindi

>

>



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Friends, any one of you plz tell me about the relation b/w scales and chords. We
know that for any song we can able to play both lead (notes) and as well as
chord. i heared that by knowing the lead (scale for that song) we can able to
construct / find chord for that. if this is true and any one know about this,
plz help me... if u know any related link then let me know that link....
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A chord is a series of notes played together that sounds good. That's a very
simple explanation. A melody is a string of separate notes that make up a tune.
And a scale is the basis for the "key," or the notes a chord is usually based
on. There are many scales, each one starting on a single note (like "A") and
covering the distance with a series of distinct tones until the next "A." So you
might have a scale going from A to A. If it were a minor scale, you'd have A B C
D E F G A. If it were a major scale on A, it would be somewhat different. The
singer usually sings the "tune," or melody. He doesn't sing chords. the
individual human voice is incapable of singing chords. A group can sing chords,
but not a single singer. Hope this helps.

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, soma sundaram <ravan_mana@...> wrote:


From: soma sundaram <ravan_mana@...>
Subject: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Relation B/W scale and chord
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 2:16 PM








Friends, any one of you plz tell me about the relation b/w scales and chords. We
know that for any song we can able to play both lead (notes) and as well as
chord. i heared that by knowing the lead (scale for that song) we can able to
construct / find chord for that. if this is true and any one know about this,
plz help me... if u know any related link then let me know that link....
thanku...

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My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt, it
has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I could
handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as the metal
strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my arm, I
attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm as well. Not
good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to expect better
playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and try out other
guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at my guitar. I'm
near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem. Thanks, guys! Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Andrew Perry <andrew@...> wrote:


From: Andrew Perry <andrew@...>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 8:31 AM








Hi Cindy, and Hi Dan,

Cindi, Dan is telling you exactly the way it is, but if I may add a comment.
There is little benefit in getting "blisters" as they will eventually peel
off leaving tender sub dermal stuff.
As Dan says practice, practice, but not to extremes. Might I suggest that
you play for about ten/fifteen minutes, but before you get any sort of
blisters, then the next day - try for another 10/15, and then, gradually
build up the playing time, and in this way you might avoid blisters but find
that your fingertips are progressively hardening.

They don' need to be "very" hard, just hard enough to play without being
sore.

The other thing that you should have checked out is the action on your
guitar - this is the height of the strings above the frets. I suggest you
show it to a good shop or to an experienced guitarist to ask them if it is
right.

Do you agree Dan ?

Hope that helps,

Ol' Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Dan Smith
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 12:27 PM
To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

Not normally on an acoustic. The strings are not thin enough. If your
first guitar is an electric it's not uncommon to bleed a little when
learning. If you get serious blisters not the small blisters normally
associated with playing guitar and continue to play through then
there's a chance but it's rather uncommon unless you do some marathon
sessions.

Good to hear. Hope you stick with it. %90 of folks who fail to learn
guitar it's because they never develop the callouses. Once you know
your basic chords and am comfortable changing chords, know a few songs
and have your callouses then your %99 likely to get at least decent on
the guitar. It's really worth it. Whether you play only for yourself
or others there's nothing like music. It's a means of expression like
no other. Well worth the initial pain and aggravation :)

Drac

On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, Dan. Now that I know it's normal for them to hurt, I have another
> question pertaining to this. Will they bleed? I really mean this, because
it
> seems it will take time for the callouses to develop. And until they do,
my
> fingers will hurt. Where they push on the string, they're very tender to
the
> point of really paining when I do that, the indentations are red, yes I
know
> I'm asking maybe silly questions, but is this what I am to expect? (Not
that
> I mind because I want to play & sing "Where Does All the Time Go?" and
learn
> the chords.) Cindi
>
> --- On Sun, 5/3/09, Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com>
> Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
> To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:12 PM
>
> Welcome aboard Cindi...
>
> As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop
> callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the
> callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as
> an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get
> sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.
> That's natural also as you build up hand strength.
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@ yahoo.com>
wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a
few
>> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.
>> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the
>> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just
>> started
>> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering
>> ...
>> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I
have
>> metal strings. Cindi
>>
>>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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Thanks, guys. I'm thinking this is not the guitar for me, but I will use it
until I get another one. The top strings are thin...I really never used a metal
string guitar before, I always used plastic ones on the top because they were
easier on my fingers. But, of course, the sound was not as clear. As long as I
know that the stinging pain is "normal," I'll keep going and HOPE I develop
callouses. Thanks again for your help and encouragement!! So blisters are normal
at first? :-( Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Alok Shaurya <toxic_alok@...> wrote:


From: Alok Shaurya <toxic_alok@...>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 7:21 AM








Hi Cindi,
Bleeding fingers is actually the least probable thing I feel would happen to
anyone. My advice dont push too hard, when you fell your fingers are tired and
you feel them hurt, take some minutes off. Let them relax a bit and then play.
About bleeding, it may happen if you play slides on the first string but again
very less chance of it.
Alok

--- On Sun, 3/5/09, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cindi Waters <clean_boost@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, 3 May, 2009, 9:49 PM

Thanks, Dan. Now that I know it's normal for them to hurt, I have another
question pertaining to this. Will they bleed? I really mean this, because it
seems it will take time for the callouses to develop. And until they do, my
fingers will hurt. Where they push on the string, they're very tender to the
point of really paining when I do that, the indentations are red, yes I know I'm
asking maybe silly questions, but is this what I am to expect? (Not that I mind
because I want to play & sing "Where Does All the Time Go?" and learn the
chords.) Cindi

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com> wrote:

From: Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com>

Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:12 PM

Welcome aboard Cindi...

As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop

callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the

callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as

an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get

sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.

That's natural also as you build up hand strength.

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:

>

>

> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a few

> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.

> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the

> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just started

> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering ...

> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I have

> metal strings. Cindi

>

>

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Sounds like your used to a Classical guitar with nylon or plastic
strings. A bit of a different animal. Depends on what kind of music
you plan to play as to what is the right guitar for you. You'll get
used to the acoustic strings quickly enough if you stay at it.

Something's wrong if it's cutting into your left arm and your playing
right handed. I'm not really understanding how your doing that. Is the
body of the guitar actually extended so far forward that your Left arm
is engaging it? Are you hugging the guitar tightly to your body? The
right arm, yeah if you hang it on the guitar after a time it goes to
sleep on you. Realistically as you play more your going to find
yourself changing the attack (that is the angle of your pick) which
causes you to pick your arm up off the top of the guitar.  It might be
you have a Dreadnaught which is about as big as acoustics get. You
might want to move down to a standard acoustic or one of the
acoustic/electrics and a small amp.

How tall are you Cindi?

What types of music do you enjoy/want to play?

These two questions will help us help you on what kind of guitar is
most likely to be right for you. In the end we can only offer advice
and experience. What is actually right for you is going to be the
guitar that you enjoy playing and that you do play even if it's
normally not used for that genre.

On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, guys. I'm thinking this is not the guitar for me, but I will use it
> until I get another one. The top strings are thin...I really never used a
> metal string guitar before, I always used plastic ones on the top because
> they were easier on my fingers. But, of course, the sound was not as clear.
> As long as I know that the stinging pain is "normal," I'll keep going and
> HOPE I develop callouses. Thanks again for your help and encouragement!! So
> blisters are normal at first? :-( Cindi
>
> --- On Mon, 5/4/09, Alok Shaurya <toxic_alok@...> wrote:
>
> From: Alok Shaurya <toxic_alok@...>
>
> Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
> To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 7:21 AM
>
> Hi Cindi,
> Bleeding fingers is actually the least probable thing I feel would happen to
> anyone. My advice dont push too hard, when you fell your fingers are tired
> and you feel them hurt, take some minutes off. Let them relax a bit and then
> play.
> About bleeding, it may happen if you play slides on the first string but
> again very less chance of it.
> Alok
>
> --- On Sun, 3/5/09, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Cindi Waters <clean_boost@ yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
> To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, 3 May, 2009, 9:49 PM
>
> Thanks, Dan. Now that I know it's normal for them to hurt, I have another
> question pertaining to this. Will they bleed? I really mean this, because it
> seems it will take time for the callouses to develop. And until they do, my
> fingers will hurt. Where they push on the string, they're very tender to the
> point of really paining when I do that, the indentations are red, yes I know
> I'm asking maybe silly questions, but is this what I am to expect? (Not that
> I mind because I want to play & sing "Where Does All the Time Go?" and learn
> the chords.) Cindi
>
> --- On Sun, 5/3/09, Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com> wrote:
>
> From: Dan Smith <draciron@gmail. com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
>
> To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
>
> Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 12:12 PM
>
> Welcome aboard Cindi...
>
> As for your questions. Yes your fingers will toughen up and develop
>
> callouses. Just keep at it, it'll hurt a bit as you develop the
>
> callouses, how long that takes depends on how much you play and you as
>
> an individual. The other thing you'll notice is your hand will get
>
> sore also, especially the webbing between the thumb and index finger.
>
> That's natural also as you build up hand strength.
>
> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:55 PM, clean_boost <clean_boost@ yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Hello. First of all, let me say I'm glad there is this forum. I have a few
>
>> questions about playing acoustic guitar, but I'll only ask one right now.
>
>> The tips of my fingers are beginning to *really* hurt from pressing the
>
>> strings and I wonder what's supposed to happen at this point. I just
>> started
>
>> playing. I can't even press the strings at this point and I'm wondering
>> ...
>
>> Am I supposed to develop callouses, or I am using the wrong guitar? I have
>
>> metal strings. Cindi
>
>>
>
>>
>
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>
> Now surf faster and smarter ! Check out the new Firefox 3 - Yahoo! Edition
> http://downloads. yahoo.com/ in/firefox/ ?fr=om_email_ firefox
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>

I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic.com










My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi




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Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt.  You definitely
want an instrument that fits u.  As for strings, I am very finnicky and lots of
strings for you to try.

Continued good luck!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@...>

Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
To: <acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question


I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic.com










My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi




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I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I
didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal vs.
plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.
 
No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right arm
that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be getting
very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have in the
past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in order to
continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg and hold it
up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes ... I guess I'll have to try to sell this
one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my chords and toughening up
my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a better one. I'm scared of
making a mistake. Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scottw44@... <scottw44@...> wrote:


From: scottw44@... <scottw44@...>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM








Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt. You definitely
want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very finnicky and lots of
strings for you to try.

Continued good luck!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>

Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
To: <acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question


I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic. com










My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi




.


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Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy.  You
want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing
yourself.



When you are ready, the guitar with the right neck, body, etc will call out
to you.  And then you are off to the races.



Continued good luck and glad to see you here.



kind regards,



scott

-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:52 PM
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question








I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I
didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal
vs. plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.

No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right
arm that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be
getting very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have
in the past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in
order to continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg
and hold it up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes ... I guess I'll have to
try to sell this one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my
chords and toughening up my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a
better one. I'm scared of making a mistake. Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44%40bellsouth.net>
net <scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44%40bellsouth.net> net> wrote:

From: scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44%40bellsouth.net> net
<scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44%40bellsouth.net> net>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristgu <mailto:acousticguitaristguild%40yahoogroups.com>
ild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM

Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt. You
definitely want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very
finnicky and lots of strings for you to try.

Continued good luck!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>

Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
To: <acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.

Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic. com

My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi

.

<http://geo.yahoo. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=5008299/ grpspId=17050320
47/msgId
=8345/stime= 1241465023/ nc1=1/nc2= 2/nc3=3>

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thanks, Scott, glad to be here. :-)
















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Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You
want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing
yourself.>>
 
P.S. I have no friends that play guitar in particular that have the time to test
it out with me. But ... NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, there's a young-er lady at my
condo development who is a guitarist for real and she works in the office. Maybe
I'll ask her...(I'm over 65...<g>) Not to diminish my own talents, however.
Could be I'm a mini version talent-wise of Susan Blake. LOL!

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scott weinbrand <scottw44@...> wrote:


From: scott weinbrand <scottw44@...>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:59 PM








Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You
want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing
yourself.

When you are ready, the guitar with the right neck, body, etc will call out
to you. And then you are off to the races.

Continued good luck and glad to see you here.

kind regards,

scott

-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:52 PM
To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I
didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal
vs. plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.

No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right
arm that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be
getting very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have
in the past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in
order to continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg
and hold it up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes ... I guess I'll have to
try to sell this one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my
chords and toughening up my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a
better one. I'm scared of making a mistake. Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net>
net <scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net> wrote:

From: scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net
<scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristgu <mailto:acousticgui taristguild% 40yahoogroups. com>
ild@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM

Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt. You
definitely want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very
finnicky and lots of strings for you to try.

Continued good luck!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>

Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
To: <acousticguitaristg u ild@yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.

Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic. com

My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi

.

<http://geo.yahoo. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=5008299/ grpspId=17050320
47/msgId
=8345/stime= 1241465023/ nc1=1/nc2= 2/nc3=3>

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I mean Susan Boyle! :-) I hope that's her name. Anyway, thanks...

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, Cindi Waters <clean_boost@...> wrote:

From: Cindi Waters <clean_boost@...>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 6:14 PM

Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You
want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing
yourself.>>
 
P.S. I have no friends that play guitar in particular that have the time to test
it out with me. But ... NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, there's a young-er lady at my
condo development who is a guitarist for real and she works in the office. Maybe
I'll ask her...(I'm over 65...<g>) Not to diminish my own talents, however.
Could be I'm a mini version talent-wise of Susan Blake. LOL!

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scott weinbrand <scottw44@...> wrote:


From: scott weinbrand <scottw44@...>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:59 PM








Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You
want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing
yourself.

When you are ready, the guitar with the right neck, body, etc will call out
to you. And then you are off to the races.

Continued good luck and glad to see you here.

kind regards,

scott

-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
[mailto:acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:52 PM
To:
  acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I
didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal
vs. plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.

No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right
arm that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be
getting very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have
in the past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in
order to continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg
and hold it up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes
  ... I guess I'll have to
try to sell this one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my
chords and toughening up my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a
better one. I'm scared of making a mistake. Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net>
net <scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net> wrote:

From: scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net
<scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristgu <mailto:acousticgui taristguild% 40yahoogroups. com>
ild@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM

Being comfortable with the
  guitar and the strings are very impt. You
definitely want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very
finnicky and lots of strings for you to try.

Continued good luck!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>

Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
To: <acousticguitaristg u ild@yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.

Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic. com

My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I
  attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi

.

<http://geo.yahoo. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=5008299/ grpspId=17050320
47/msgId
=8345/stime= 1241465023/ nc1=1/nc2= 2/nc3=3>

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Theoretically, the only need for a dreadnaught is if you need to produce a
volume to compete with banjos, fiddles etc.

There were originally designed as "band" instruments rather than for solo
performers.

I confess I really have a problem with dreadnaughts being foisted on ladies
or smaller stature people, as they are rarely necessary and are not that
ergonomic.

As Marv very reasonably points out - models equivalent to or similar to the
Martin model sizes of 0,00 or 000 are often more comfortable and many will
say that they give a better balanced sound across the strings.

Another thing that took me a long time to discover was the advantage of the
original configuration of guitars whose necks meet the body at the 12th
fret, rather than the more common 14th fret.

I use only 12 fret instruments - 0,00,000 and dreadnaughts, and everyone who
is unfamiliar with them, and tries one exclaims "Wow - isn't it
comfortable!"

So.. for most purposes, apart from perhaps a bluegrass or jazz band, perhaps
a 12 fret 000 guitar might actually be the finest design - esp, if you have
been playing on a classical guitar.

Hoe this is useful,

Ol'Andy






-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marv Sobolesky
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:26 PM
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic.com










My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi




.


<http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=5008299/grpspId=1705032047/msgId
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Cindy, although we don't have these Oscar Schmidt guitar in my country (The
UK) I've looked at their website, and , frankly they look to be pretty cheap
guitars - most with electronics and cutaways - for about $300.

These are not good guitars and not (IMHO) appropriate for a lady beginner.

If you are on a budget, then consider the Canadian makers like Seagull etc.
Don't buy an instrument with electrics as they will be the main cost of the
item, meaning that the tonewoods and build are built down to a very low
budget.

There is no need for a cutaway, unless you are going to play it like a
Stratocaster.

Seek out a smaller guitar (see previous comments about 0 00 and 000 sizes,
and make sure before you buy that the action is right - i.e. not too high
which would give you discomfort when playing.

Hope this helps,

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:52 PM
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I
didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal
vs. plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.
 
No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right
arm that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be
getting very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have
in the past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in
order to continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg
and hold it up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes ... I guess I'll have to
try to sell this one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my
chords and toughening up my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a
better one. I'm scared of making a mistake. Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scottw44@... <scottw44@...> wrote:


From: scottw44@... <scottw44@...>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM








Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt. You
definitely want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very
finnicky and lots of strings for you to try.

Continued good luck!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>

Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
To: <acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question


I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic. com










My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi




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Hi Cindi,
Not sure, I think I went thru a bit of what your going thru. I played for a
period (short one) long ago.. A little over a year ago I pulled the geeter's out
of the attic (25years) and figured ..play em or sell em.. Well, I'm playing  and
playing and playin.. I've had to put it down as I was getting pain in my arms
etc .. So I did some homework and got some coaching from some great folks here
in the group.. So my next challange was to re-learn posture and how to hold the
guitar such that it worked for my body.. I now have that worked out.. The guitar
that I pulled out of the attic was a Martin D 28.. I'm a smaller fella and I
felt that I was holding onto a foot locker everytime I played.. Then also thru
the help of great coaching of the group I discovered the 000 & 00 size bodies..
OMG did that make a difference.. SO I have been working at playing quite
seriously for some time now and I feel comfortable with it. Oddly.. I can now
pick up the D 28 and it doesn't feel like a footlocker anymore....just a bit
bigger guitar. So I'm playing it also.
All the coaching regarding your fingers.. well their giving you the straight
poop on it.. It's just about using them. I did a trick that helped me and it'll
sound pretty sick to most.. I put Martin mediums' on for 2 week which just
murdered me.. then went back to lights which is what I use regularly now. For me
it felt so good to get away from the mediums' that I just let go of my whining
about my fingers and got thru it.. crazy huh?
Good luck..

jimbo



   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cindi Waters
   To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:14 PM
   Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question





   Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You
   want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing
   yourself.>>

   P.S. I have no friends that play guitar in particular that have the time to
test it out with me. But ... NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, there's a young-er lady at
my condo development who is a guitarist for real and she works in the office.
Maybe I'll ask her...(I'm over 65...<g>) Not to diminish my own talents,
however. Could be I'm a mini version talent-wise of Susan Blake. LOL!

   --- On Mon, 5/4/09, scott weinbrand <scottw44@...> wrote:

   From: scott weinbrand <scottw44@...>
   Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
   To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
   Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:59 PM

   Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You
   want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing
   yourself.

   When you are ready, the guitar with the right neck, body, etc will call out
   to you. And then you are off to the races.

   Continued good luck and glad to see you here.

   kind regards,

   scott

   -----Original Message-----
   From: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
   [mailto:acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters
   Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:52 PM
   To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com
   Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

   I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I
   didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal
   vs. plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.

   No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right
   arm that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be
   getting very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have
   in the past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in
   order to continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg
   and hold it up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes ... I guess I'll have to
   try to sell this one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my
   chords and toughening up my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a
   better one. I'm scared of making a mistake. Cindi

   --- On Mon, 5/4/09, scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net>
   net <scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net> wrote:

   From: scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net
   <scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net>
   Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
   To: acousticguitaristgu <mailto:acousticgui taristguild% 40yahoogroups. com>
   ild@yahoogroups. com
   Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM

   Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt. You
   definitely want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very
   finnicky and lots of strings for you to try.

   Continued good luck!
   Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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   From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>

   Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
   To: <acousticguitaristg u ild@yahoogroups. com>
   Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

   I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
   not comfortable to me.

   Marv Sobolesky

   www.marvsmusic. com

   My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
   it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
   could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
   the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
   arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
   as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
   expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
   try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
   my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
   Thanks, guys! Cindi

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Cindy, here is a cheap trick that can save you some finger pain.

(1)  Buy a capo for your guitar, there are many brands and types, try them out
at a music store if they will let you.  I prefer the Shubb brand, your own
preference may vary.

(2)  Re-tune your guitar from its normal Key of E down a step or more to key of
D or even less.   This slackens the strings and reduces the string tension you
are fighting against, a lot.

(3)  Place capo on 2nd fret (if you have re-tuned to key of D), or higher if you
have re-tuned even lower.

--

You now have a guitar with about half of the original string tension, it will be
much easier to play, much easier on your fingers.

The strings will also be at exactly the correct height at the end of the neck
where most beginner chords are, now that the capo defines the end of the neck. 
Most guitar "nuts", the plastic or bone at end of neck where the strings start,
are set TOO HIGH.   This is to allow the guitars to be strummed very heavily
without buzzing.   With the capo on, the strings start at just the right height,
the height of a fret.  If you are not a very heavy strummer you should not have
a problem with this.

Your guitar may sound different with the re-tuning and capo.   I cannot say
whether it will be better or worse.   My 12-string actually sounds BETTER
de-tuned and capoed in this way.  I imagine that a 6-string would lose a bit of
resonance and volume.

Good luck,

Lee
Mount Aukum, California

<<I'm a smaller fella and I felt that I was holding onto a foot locker
everytime I played.. >>

LOL, Jimbo, you described my feeling exactly. Except in my case, it's like
holding on to a trunk! :-) Thanks. Oh, and no, I don't think you're 'whining'
about the strings. I'll be asking about them as I continue seeking for a better
guitar. then ... after that ... I'll be asking about configuration for my chords
for Sandy Denny's song, "Who Knows Where the Time Goes.." because some of those
chords (not too many of them) are hard for me to configure given my 'delicate'
hands...I say this with a wistful smile...Before I start asking questions about
the chording (I can read tablature for the most part, and I understand chords
but I don't know a lot of things about the guitar yet, but I'm happy, willing to
learn...) I do need to figure out to get a better guitar. I'll try selling mine
on craigslist soon, which is where I got it anyway. Cindi
P.S. The reason I even took out the guitar again is because we went over to a
friend's house and I happen to have a pretty good folk voice and he took his
guitar out and started playing, it encouraged me to start playing and singing to
entertain friends if ever...That's why I started working on Denny's Time Goes
song. Nice song, it keeps going round in my head ... enough to get me up out of
bed in the morning...:-)
--- On Tue, 5/5/09, mrjimbo <mrjimbo@...> wrote:

From: mrjimbo <mrjimbo@...>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 12:41 PM

















       Hi Cindi,

Not sure, I think I went thru a bit of what your going thru. I played for a
period (short one) long ago.. A little over a year ago I pulled the geeter's out
of the attic (25years) and figured ..play em or sell em.. Well, I'm playing  and
playing and playin.. I've had to put it down as I was getting pain in my arms
etc .. So I did some homework and got some coaching from some great folks here
in the group.. So my next challange was to re-learn posture and how to hold the
guitar such that it worked for my body.. I now have that worked out.. The guitar
that I pulled out of the attic was a Martin D 28.. I'm a smaller fella and I
felt that I was holding onto a foot locker everytime I played.. Then also thru
the help of great coaching of the group I discovered the 000 & 00 size bodies..
OMG did that make a difference.. SO I have been working at playing quite
seriously for some time now and I feel comfortable with it. Oddly.. I can now
pick up the D 28 and it
  doesn't feel like a footlocker anymore....just a bit bigger guitar. So I'm
playing it also.

All the coaching regarding your fingers.. well their giving you the straight
poop on it.. It's just about using them. I did a trick that helped me and it'll
sound pretty sick to most.. I put Martin mediums' on for 2 week which just
murdered me.. then went back to lights which is what I use regularly now. For me
it felt so good to get away from the mediums' that I just let go of my whining
about my fingers and got thru it.. crazy huh?

Good luck..



jimbo



----- Original Message -----

   From: Cindi Waters

   To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

   Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 4:14 PM

   Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question



Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You

   want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing

   yourself.>>



   P.S. I have no friends that play guitar in particular that have the time to
test it out with me. But ... NOW THAT YOU MENTION IT, there's a young-er lady at
my condo development who is a guitarist for real and she works in the office.
Maybe I'll ask her...(I'm over 65...<g>) Not to diminish my own talents,
however. Could be I'm a mini version talent-wise of Susan Blake. LOL!



--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scott weinbrand <scottw44@bellsouth. net> wrote:



From: scott weinbrand <scottw44@bellsouth. net>

   Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

   To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

   Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:59 PM



Go shopping with a friend or at a shop that is known to be trustworthy. You

   want to be able to listen to the instrument being played as well as playing

   yourself.



When you are ready, the guitar with the right neck, body, etc will call out

   to you. And then you are off to the races.



Continued good luck and glad to see you here.



kind regards,



scott



-----Original Message-----

   From: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

   [mailto:acousticgui taristgu ild@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters

   Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 5:52 PM

   To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

   Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question



I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I

   didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal

   vs. plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.



No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right

   arm that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be

   getting very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have

   in the past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in

   order to continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg

   and hold it up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes ... I guess I'll have to

   try to sell this one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my

   chords and toughening up my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a

   better one. I'm scared of making a mistake. Cindi



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   net <scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net> wrote:



From: scottw44@bellsouth. <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net

   <scottw44@bellsouth . <mailto:scottw44% 40bellsouth. net> net>

   Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

   To: acousticguitaristgu <mailto:acousticgui taristguild% 40yahoogroups. com>

   ild@yahoogroups. com

   Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM



Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt. You

   definitely want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very

   finnicky and lots of strings for you to try.



Continued good luck!

   Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T



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   From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>



Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07

   To: <acousticguitaristg u ild@yahoogroups. com>

   Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question



I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just

   not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky



www.marvsmusic. com



My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,

   it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I

   could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as

   the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my

   arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm

   as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to

   expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and

   try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at

   my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.

   Thanks, guys! Cindi



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It does help a lot, Andrew. The guitar has a nice enough tone, but it really is
way too big for me. Little did I know. Yes, I will be looking at smaller guitars
soon enough. Thanks! Cindi

--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Andrew Perry <andrew@...> wrote:

From: Andrew Perry <andrew@...>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 12:32 PM

Cindy, although we don't have these Oscar Schmidt guitar in my country (The
UK) I've looked at their website, and , frankly they look to be pretty cheap
guitars - most with electronics and cutaways - for about $300.

These are not good guitars and not (IMHO) appropriate for a lady beginner.

If you are on a budget, then consider the Canadian makers like Seagull etc.
Don't buy an instrument with electrics as they will be the main cost of the
item, meaning that the tonewoods and build are built down to a very low
budget.

There is no need for a cutaway, unless you are going to play it like a
Stratocaster.

Seek out a smaller guitar (see previous comments about 0 00 and 000 sizes,
and make sure before you buy that the action is right - i.e. not too high
which would give you discomfort when playing.

Hope this helps,

Andy   

-----Original Message-----
From: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters
Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:52 PM
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I know it's important to be happy with the guitar itself. But the strings? I
didn't realize there was such a difference in strings and I don't mean metal
vs. plastic. Yes, I suppose it's a dreadnought.
 
No, sorry, it wasn't my left arm that hurt from holding it. It was my right
arm that was cutting in on the top and that hurt, and I"m thinking I must be
getting very old and thin-skinned. Unlike the smaller guitars I used to have
in the past, my arm and wrist got very, very tired from holding it, and in
order to continue playing it, I actually had to sit it on its end on my leg
and hold it up straight. Not very comfortable. Yes ... I guess I'll have to
try to sell this one and get another one. But I'll continue learning my
chords and toughening up my fingers as I go until I scare up the money for a
better one. I'm scared of making a mistake. Cindi

--- On Mon, 5/4/09, scottw44@... <scottw44@...> wrote:


From: scottw44@... <scottw44@...>
Subject: Re: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 5:30 PM








Being comfortable with the guitar and the strings are very impt. You
definitely want an instrument that fits u. As for strings, I am very
finnicky and lots of strings for you to try.

Continued good luck!
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: "Marv Sobolesky" <marv@marvsmusic. com>

Date: Mon, 4 May 2009 14:26:07
To: <acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question


I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just
not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic. com










My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,
it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I
could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as
the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my
arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm
as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to
expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and
try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at
my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.
Thanks, guys! Cindi




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Lee, ok, thanks for advice about a capo. The tune I'm singing is in the key of
A, so it's not hard for me except for the B chord. That's hard. But I'm working
on playing it on 3 strings only, hahaha. Maybe later I'll develop something
better. thanks for advice about lessening the tension. Good points. There's one
chord I can't figure out from the recording and also from the chart on the net
for that song. But I'm getting a keyboard soon I hope and will figure it out
from there. In my old age, I've decided to start singing again. (Actually was a
voice teacher...:-) ) Cindi

--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Lee McGee <lee.mcgee@...> wrote:

From: Lee McGee <lee.mcgee@...>
Subject: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Re: Hi! I'm new here w/question - Cheap
trick
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 12:43 PM

















       Cindy, here is a cheap trick that can save you some finger pain.



(1)  Buy a capo for your guitar, there are many brands and types, try them out
at a music store if they will let you.  I prefer the Shubb brand, your own
preference may vary.



(2)  Re-tune your guitar from its normal Key of E down a step or more to key of
D or even less.   This slackens the strings and reduces the string tension you
are fighting against, a lot.



(3)  Place capo on 2nd fret (if you have re-tuned to key of D), or higher if you
have re-tuned even lower.



--



You now have a guitar with about half of the original string tension, it will be
much easier to play, much easier on your fingers.



The strings will also be at exactly the correct height at the end of the neck
where most beginner chords are, now that the capo defines the end of the neck. 
Most guitar "nuts", the plastic or bone at end of neck where the strings start,
are set TOO HIGH.   This is to allow the guitars to be strummed very heavily
without buzzing.   With the capo on, the strings start at just the right height,
the height of a fret.  If you are not a very heavy strummer you should not have
a problem with this.



Your guitar may sound different with the re-tuning and capo.   I cannot say
whether it will be better or worse.   My 12-string actually sounds BETTER
de-tuned and capoed in this way.  I imagine that a 6-string would lose a bit of
resonance and volume.



Good luck,



Lee

Mount Aukum, California































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So, just so I understand -- a 12 fret guitar is technically better (for me you
think) than the 14 fret guitar, because obviously it must be smaller...I must
not know how to count frets, since this guitar (the Oscar Schmidt) has 20
frets...Cindi

--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Andrew Perry <andrew@...> wrote:

From: Andrew Perry <andrew@...>
Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 12:25 PM

















       Theoretically, the only need for a dreadnaught is if you need to produce a

volume to compete with banjos, fiddles etc.



There were originally designed as "band" instruments rather than for solo

performers.



I confess I really have a problem with dreadnaughts being foisted on ladies

or smaller stature people, as they are rarely necessary and are not that

ergonomic.



As Marv very reasonably points out - models equivalent to or similar to the

Martin model sizes of 0,00 or 000 are often more comfortable and many will

say that they give a better balanced sound across the strings.



Another thing that took me a long time to discover was the advantage of the

original configuration of guitars whose necks meet the body at the 12th

fret, rather than the more common 14th fret.



I use only 12 fret instruments - 0,00,000 and dreadnaughts, and everyone who

is unfamiliar with them, and tries one exclaims "Wow - isn't it

comfortable! "



So.. for most purposes, apart from perhaps a bluegrass or jazz band, perhaps

a 12 fret 000 guitar might actually be the finest design - esp, if you have

been playing on a classical guitar.



Hoe this is useful,



Ol'Andy



-----Original Message-----

From: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

[mailto:acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Marv Sobolesky

Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:26 PM

To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question



I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just

not comfortable to me.



Marv Sobolesky



www.marvsmusic. com



My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,

it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I

could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as

the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my

arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm

as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to

expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and

try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at

my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.

Thanks, guys! Cindi



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You count the # of frets u to where the body of the guitar comes in.  Odds
are you have 14.



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From: acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:acousticguitaristguild@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Cindi Waters
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:41 PM
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So, just so I understand -- a 12 fret guitar is technically better (for me
you think) than the 14 fret guitar, because obviously it must be smaller...I
must not know how to count frets, since this guitar (the Oscar Schmidt) has
20 frets...Cindi

--- On Tue, 5/5/09, Andrew Perry <andrew@andrewperry.
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Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question
To: acousticguitaristgu <mailto:acousticguitaristguild%40yahoogroups.com>
ild@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 12:25 PM

Theoretically, the only need for a dreadnaught is if you need to produce a

volume to compete with banjos, fiddles etc.

There were originally designed as "band" instruments rather than for solo

performers.

I confess I really have a problem with dreadnaughts being foisted on ladies

or smaller stature people, as they are rarely necessary and are not that

ergonomic.

As Marv very reasonably points out - models equivalent to or similar to the

Martin model sizes of 0,00 or 000 are often more comfortable and many will

say that they give a better balanced sound across the strings.

Another thing that took me a long time to discover was the advantage of the

original configuration of guitars whose necks meet the body at the 12th

fret, rather than the more common 14th fret.

I use only 12 fret instruments - 0,00,000 and dreadnaughts, and everyone who

is unfamiliar with them, and tries one exclaims "Wow - isn't it

comfortable! "

So.. for most purposes, apart from perhaps a bluegrass or jazz band, perhaps

a 12 fret 000 guitar might actually be the finest design - esp, if you have

been playing on a classical guitar.

Hoe this is useful,

Ol'Andy

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[mailto:acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Marv
Sobolesky

Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 10:26 PM

To: acousticguitaristgu ild@yahoogroups. com

Subject: RE: [Acoustic Guitarist Guild] Hi! I'm new here w/question

I gave up on Dreadnaughts years ago and only play 000 size. The Ds are just

not comfortable to me.

Marv Sobolesky

www.marvsmusic. com

My next question is: maybe I have the wrong guitar? I have an Oscar Schmidt,

it has a nice sound but it's bigger than I used to play and I thought I

could handle it, but clearly I'm having a problem with its size as well as

the metal strings. I'm having trouble holding it, I notice it wears on my

arm, I attributed that to getting older, but it's cutting into my left arm

as well. Not good. But I do want to center on my fingers and how I am to

expect better playing to go. I will go to my local guitar center one day and

try out other guitars as well as have the knowledgeable sales person look at

my guitar. I'm near a Sam Ash, so there shouldn't be much of a problem.

Thanks, guys! Cindi

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