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2310
In saying "there is no doubt until the 8th and 9th Symphonies," are you referring to the reports that Bruckner might have been going through a crisis of faith...
Warren Malach
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Aug 1, 2004
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2311
I think that it takes real bravery to publicly prefer the original version of the Bruckner 4th to the revised version that has become so famous as one of...
Warren Malach
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Aug 1, 2004
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2312
I'll just bet that it was one of the last Bruckner Symphonies to be premiered in just about any country you might name. I may be wrong, but I seem to remember...
Warren Malach
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Aug 1, 2004
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2313
As far as I know, most of the revisions to the original version were written over the original. To the degree that differences could be determined in the...
John F. Berky
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Aug 1, 2004
12:21 pm
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"In saying "there is no doubt until the 8th and 9th Symphonies," are you referring to the reports that Bruckner might have been going through a crisis of faith...
kenwardski
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Aug 1, 2004
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2315
From the reports I have read of Bruckner's final days, I wonder if his emotional state inhibited his ability to finish the Finale of the 9th Symphony....
brucknerfan1951
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Aug 1, 2004
6:46 pm
2316
Another disc I am going to have to get a copy of! --Warren ... From: John F. Berky<mailto:jberky@...> To:...
Warren Malach
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Aug 1, 2004
7:09 pm
2317
I saw a CD of Bruckner's organ music for sale a while back. Most of the pieces there were early compositions which have the reputations of being little more...
max_shpak
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Aug 3, 2004
4:04 pm
2318
If this is the Novalis disc of Bruckner's organ music, I think it might have something to do with Bruckner's playing the organ at the wedding of the...
Warren Malach
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Aug 3, 2004
4:35 pm
2319
That might have been valid speculation, before recent research (which led to the "committee" finale) -- but from what Cohrs & co. have established, Bruckner...
Urbie
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Aug 3, 2004
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Yes, Sibelius is a better example of self-doubt. I have fantasized while watching some film in which people are going through recently-discovered documents...
Warren Malach
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Aug 3, 2004
8:31 pm
2321
(Please forgive the intrusion from a former -and long time- lurker of this group...) Recently I purchased the Inbal recording of 1874's 4th. Mind you, the ...
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Aug 3, 2004
9:56 pm
2322
Good to hear from you, Ivan! I completely agree with you, that it's nice having several versions of some of the Bruckner Symphonies, which I treat as totally...
Warren Malach
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Aug 4, 2004
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2323
Or perhaps Elgar 3, though he left enough of a sketch to make a not-bad reconstruction possible. Sibelius was an alcoholic, probably had underlying...
Stephen Chakwin
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Aug 4, 2004
5:29 am
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Hi! Even if this article on Sibelius lost Eighth was already published in 1995, I found it extremely interesting and forward it here within the text. All the...
artiumbremen
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Aug 4, 2004
2:11 pm
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Interestingly enough, there's a new bio-pic on Sibelius that just came out a few months ago in Finland: http://www.sibeliuselokuva.net/ From the site, it's not...
Urbie
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Aug 4, 2004
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I discovered this article online several years ago, and recently mentioned it in the Sibelius forum as the most comprehensive account of the Sibelius 8th that...
Warren Malach
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Aug 4, 2004
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Hey, Bruckner-Chaps: Have fun with the following ;-) Best, Ben Cohrs Bernstein, von Karajan — are today's conductors just a faint echo? (The Times) On Friday...
artiumbremen
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Aug 5, 2004
2:43 pm
2328
i think the first B i dug was Guillini's 8th--2 cd set by DG, and then the 4th--i stumble on the 6th via radio, one nite driving in san jose CA--i thought this...
doug long
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Aug 5, 2004
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thanx ivan--reminds me of playing B for my baby--he would turn his fists when the music crescendoed in one of those majestic moments of cathedral erecting by...
doug long
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Aug 5, 2004
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That's a great testimony, Doug! Jochum's recordings were the ones many of us from the 1960s cut our teeth on with Bruckner, sometimes the only...
Warren Malach
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Aug 5, 2004
6:08 pm
2331
Coming upon B6 without warning, especially that slow movement, is not an experience for the faint-hearted. Lopez Cobos has about the most wonderful reading...
Stephen Chakwin
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Aug 5, 2004
8:07 pm
2332
Stephen, I have Celi on DGG, EMI and Sony VHS. The Lopez-Cobos recordings are good--I wish that he would do a complete Bruckner cycle. I wish that Giulini...
Warren Malach
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Aug 5, 2004
10:17 pm
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I just picked up this BBC Magazine disc in a used store (as well as the Wigglesworth Mahler 10th, an earlier BBC Magazine release, which has been discussed...
brucknerfan1951
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Aug 6, 2004
2:57 am
2334
Yes, Warren, I had that Bruckner 4 recording in the house for a while - but it didn't seem to me at first or second hearing to be particularly distinguished,...
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Aug 6, 2004
6:20 am
2335
Nice observation about the oboes, Warren. I guess I had felt something like that subliminally, but never would have found the words for it without you. I...
Stephen Chakwin
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Aug 6, 2004
6:55 am
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I did not mean to imply that Abbado was a great Bruckner conductor, but after all these years we are STILL waiting for a complete Bruckner Symphony cycle from...
brucknerfan1951
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Aug 6, 2004
8:13 am
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An additional observation on the 1874 Bruckner 4th: In comparing the 1874 and 1880 versions (particularly the 1st two movements which are close enough to make...
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Aug 6, 2004
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2338
Well, that's interesting, Warren, your mentioning of the oboe lament in B6 Adagio reminding you of Elgar's 2nd Larghetto. In the essay which they were kind...
kenwardski
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Aug 6, 2004
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2339
I agree with these observations, as one of the first things that struck me in listening to the first movement of the first version of the B4 was the wealth of...
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