I missed this at the time, but A.Pablo was recently
a featured artist of the week on the Experience
Music Project's website. Reading the piece it seems they have
acquired one of his melodicas for their permanent collection.

http://www.emplive.com/archives/index.asp?section=artw&id=82&pg=1
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In the early days of the list someone spoke of having
a tape of the NYC 'Kitchen' show - but it never materialized.

I would be very happy to run it or any other live tape on the stream

Which incidentally is running a very nice tribute from Ras Kush right now.

JAHLION777@... wrote:
>
> anybody have any Pablo live to trade

anybody have any Pablo live to trade - i have one from 90 and hope to find
that some of you fellow Pablo Heads have some live or video footage to trae -
His Music and Message Bloooowww On . . . . . . . . Blessings - Brian

>  We are planning a come-all-selecter on the pablo
> stream starting from around may 17, it'll run a
> full lunar cycle to the Jamaica event, so plenty
> of room for all. Hook up live if you can shoutcast.

> This is the first I have heard of the foundation
> I have added a  page on streamola to keep track
> http://streamola.com/apablo/foundation/
> if you know of any links please reply here or
> to me and I'll add them.



TRIBUTE TO AUGUSTUS PABLO-

May 18th marks the passing of this great musician The
Countryside Club in Kingston, Jamaica will be host of
the first annual tribute to Augustus Pablo held on
Saturday, June 17, 2000, at 8:00 p.m.

The event will aide the Augustus Pablo Foundation, an
organization whose primary objective is to provide
funding for a scholarship-oriented, music education
program in Jamaica, geared towards primary and
secondary level students. It was Pablo's vision to
assist the many musically talented youths who are less
fortunate in educating themselves.

Truly a prolific musician, composer and producer,
Augustus Pablo passed away almost one year ago on May
18, 1999. Augustus Pablo never gained the international
recognition of Bob Marley, but Augustus Pablo is
undoubtedly one of reggae's legitimate legends. Along
with producer King Tubby, Pablo almost single-handedly
invented dub.

A special presentation by Mr. Desmond Young, President
of the Jamaica Federation of Musican, will be made to
Rockers International Records, in memory of Pablo's
contribution to Jamaica's music and culture.

Expected artists include Yami Bolo, Jah Bull, Spliffy
Dan, Dean Frazer, Derrick Harriott, Lloyd Hemmings,
Richie Mack, Sugar Minott, Tahir Mundell, (Son of the
late Hugh Mundell), Junior Reid, Leroy Sibbles, White
Mice and Willie Williams. Monty Alexander is trying to
work with his current tour schedule in order to be a
part of this event. The artists will be performing
songs composed by Augustus Pablo and musical renditions
of the "instrumental 'dub' style." The band will
include well-known musicians, Chinna Smith, Benbow,
Mikey Carroll, Bonito and Ranchie, among others.

The Augustus Pablo Foundation has already received
many individual responses of contribution and
sponsorship, and is proud to announce as sponsors the
Jamaica Federation of Musicians, who has fully endorsed
this project and programme of events; Greensleeves
Records (England), VP Records (New York/Florida), Ras
Records (Washington D.C.), Jet Star Phonographics
(England); and Internet Website, Reggaesource.com. A
host of radio disc jockeys and media personnel across
the world have pledged their participation via radio,
television, print and electronic medium.

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catch the last few performances of the blood & fire sound system on
their debut North American tour:
http://www.highpark.com/dubstore/promoblood.htm

you only have 28 days left to buy blood & fire CDs from dubstore.com
at crazy low sale prices:
http://www.highpark.com/dubstore/promoblood.htm

listen to every track on every blood & fire CD over the internet:
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=dubradio

http://www.dubstore.com
dubstore.com - dub & reggae CDs worldwide mailorder @ discount prices

a friend from Brooklyn just visted JA
this is what he says..

>  Prince Buster
> has left Kingston , I spoke with Pablo's brother at Rockers Intl., seems
> they( prince busters) press the records in Jamaica and take them abroad for
> distribution.  He did not seem very happy with that arrangement.  They don't
> sell any on the island.  The Rockers Intl sound system does play out weekly
> in Kingston on Sunday nights at the Kolony Club, 126 Constant Rd.
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Manwel of Radio Malta has kindly made available
his tribute to A.Pablo as broadcast on Radio Malta
last year.

It is a 16k mp3 on demand stream, to be found on
http://streamola.com/reggaeclub/443.html


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Hi there,

Within a few weeks I will be visiting London. Can anyone of you recommend me
some venues, clubs and record stores?

André

Twinsound vs Kush in the second round of the 'NYC
   Selection' series on the Augustus Pablo Memorial
   stream. This session is e-specially livicated to the man
   called I-Roy. 230 mins approx.

   Root server = http://209.73.37.202:7000
   Winamp: http://209.73.37.202:7000/listen.pls
   Status= http://209.73.37.202:7000/current.html

   Realplayer users can get it via the streamola RA relay
   http://home.dti.net/joly/ra/streamola.ram

   doesn't work? - try going help/update in realplayer -
   make sure you have realplayer7..

   The RA relay will switch to the Rasta Club/Roots Relay
   stream later tonight (Friday) for a Christmas Eve lovers
   + roots session from AK and Ras Kush.

   Sunday - earlier there will be a special feature on classic
   USABRB on the DUB ZONE stream
   followed by a live session of Jah Lightning and Thunder
   from Humble Tafari and WiLdFiYah sound.

   All will be on that same realaudio relay but different root
   servers on http://streamola.com
   which is where winamp users should go to click in.

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Ras Kush and I have seen our way to
place this rare pablo musics within the net reach,
so this tune will never finish..

http://streamola.com/apablo/dubplate/

clicking on the pen and ink portrait brings a higher
resolution version for printing.

give thanks

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Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999
From: The Wailers Reporter <danieln@...>


Some sad news to report, Joe Higgs passed away Saturday, December 18th.  He
not only worked to develop many of reggae's greatests, but he himself was
one of the true fathers of reggae music.  We're working on a tribute site
for Joe Higgs, and if any of you have any thing to share with others, we
would be more than happy to put them up.

The following biography graciously comes from Roger Steffens.

"Joe Higgs Passes at 59
by Roger Steffens

Los Angeles, 18 December 1999.
Jamaican singer Joe Higgs, known as "The Father of Reggae Music," passed away
this evening at 59 in a hospital in Los Angeles following several months of
treatment for cancer.

Higgs was hugely influential in the birth of the ska, rock steady and
reggae forms of Jamaican music, and was widely respected as a composer,
arranger and
performer, but perhaps most of all as a teacher.  Among those he trained
were Bob Marley, Derrick Harriott, Peter Tosh, Bob Andy, the Wailing Souls
and Bunny Wailer.

One of the first local recording artists in Jamaica, his debut single, made
with partner Roy Wilson, was "Oh Manny Oh," and sold over 50,000 copies in
Jamaica in 1960. It led to his signing by Edward Seaga, who later became
Jamaica's Prime Minister during the 1980s.  "He was my first manager,"
Higgs recalled shortly before his death, adding with a sly smile, "We
always got paid."  Seaga arranged for Higgs to be booked in local shows
alongside Sam Cooke, Jackie Wilson and other foreign stars.

In 1964 he recorded "There's A Reward For Me," for producer Coxson Dodd's
Studio
One, a song that became an instant classic of suffering and hope. Although
he  claimed to have received no royalties from its sales, he was sanguine
about the fact, claiming "I realize that the only person can give me my
reward and what I'm entitled to is the Almighty."

It was in Higgs' Trench Town yard that the young Bob Marley received years
of  private tutoring in vocal technique and stage craft from Higgs, years
before he began recording with his group, the Wailers. Marley later
admitted that "Joe Higgs was a genius," crediting him for his international
musical success.

In 1972, Higgs won the Tourist Song Competition with "Invitation to
Jamaica," whose prizes included a trip to New York, where he performed for
the first time.
The bouncy tune was uncharacteristic of his more normal roots sound, which
mixed rhythmic jazzy scat singing with heartfelt lyrics that expressed deep
political awareness and a keen sense of history and classical literature.
Songs like "So It Go" ("when you no have big friends") and "Freedom" kept
him near the top of the local charts.

In 1973, when founding member Bunny Wailer quit the Wailers, Higgs was
tapped to accompany his former students, Tosh and Marley, on an American
tour as opening act for Sly and the Family Stone. They played critically
acclaimed shows from New York and Boston to San Francisco, and were chief
among the first wave of reggae musicians who brought the music to U.S.
awareness.

In 1974, another set of former students, the Wailing Souls, joined with
Higgs briefly to form  group called Atarra. But it was his allignment with
emerging superstar Jimmy Cliff, hot off his success in the landmark film
"The Harder They Come," that brought Higgs mainstream attention as Cliff's
bandleader and co-vocalist, often before huge crowds in venues like New
York's Central Park and Madison Square Garden. Opening each of Cliff's
shows, plus singing a pair of songs in the middle of Cliff's sets, Higgs
often received more attention than Cliff, and was eventually relegated to
background vocals only. Duets recorded at the time by Cliff and Higgs,
"Sound of the City" and "Sons of Garvey," remain
among the finest work ever recorded by either man.

His first solo album came out in the mid-'70s called "Life of
Contradiction,"  and featured jazz guitarist Eric Gale, solidifying Higgs'
reputation, as he often reminded audiences, as "the jazz connection for
Jamaican music. I like phrasing my own voice like an instrument."

In the compelling 1977 reggae documentary film "Roots Rock Reggae," Higgs
told director Jeremy Marre that "Reggae is a confrontational sound. Freedom
- that's what it's asking for. Acceptance - that's what it needs."

"Unity Is Power" followed in 1979. His 1983 single, "So It Go," which
called  attention to the plight of the poor who have no mentors in high
places, caused Higgs political problems with the ruling party in Jamaica,
and he left for Los Angeles, where he lived in a self-imposed exile until
his death.

During the past 15 years, he had resumed his unofficial career as tutor and
mentor to a new generation of American-based reggae musicians, and
continued to tour the world, headlining festivals throughout North America
and Europe.

Later albums included 1990's "Blackman Know Yourself," backed by the Wailers
Band.  The collection featured Joe's most famous composition, "Stepping
Razor,"
which had become a signature song for the 6-foot 4-inch Peter Tosh, and was
often mistakenly attributed to Tosh as its writer. "The give away line,"
the slightly built Higgs always told people, "is 'Don't you watch my size,
I'm dangerous.' Is no six-foot-something guy could write that!"

At the time of his death, he was working on an autobiography with this
writer, and had been working on  a cross-cultural project recorded at U2's
studio in Dublin, to be titled "Green on Black," uniting Gaelic artists
like Sharon Shanon and Donal Luney with Higgs, in lengthy Irish-jazz-reggae
improvisations.

His final public performance was at Ashkenaz in Berkeley, CA on June 26. Born
June 3, 1940, Higgs leaves 12 children, several of whom are professional
musicians."

  - Daniel & Seth Nelson

anyone care to comment?

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [reggae] eastman dub
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:51:58 GMT
From: "angedella isafella" <notmusic@...>


dear list:   i just bought A. Pablo's "eastman dub" cd. I like it but the
bass was very clean and thin sounding. it is on RAS records. was this a
choice or bad a to d transfer.

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there is an audio clip of this on
http://freespace.virgin.net/steve.mosco/dubmastr/dubmast.htm

(give thanks to Jah Warrior)


WWWhatsup wrote:
>
>
> if you want one song:
> 'Baby I love you so' from King Tubby meets the Rockers uptown
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if you look on the Reggae Vibes page you'll see
that they rate sertain albums as 'essential' but
I don't think he ever made a bad record so you can
start anywhere.

if you want one song:
'Baby I love you so' from King Tubby meets the Rockers uptown


My fav pablo track at the moment is a b-side version of
'My Guiding Star' by the Heptones off a 45 on the Impact! label
that came from jammyland NYC http://www.jammyland.com

They recently re-released 'This Is' on CD
http://www.jammyland.com/thisis.html


"Steenbergen, A. (Andre)" wrote:
>

>  recommendations what to
> listen first?
>
> There is a discography at
> http://niceup.com/discographies/augustus_pablo
>
> and a roundup of his major releases on
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~regvibes/concert/augpablo/augpablo.htm

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Hello and Welcome to the list Andre.....

It's been real quiet lately.....But hopefully Joly's recommendation for a
full-fledged Augustus Pablo tribute site can come to fruition.  Thanks again
to Joly for getting this list going....  Like everyone I'm pretty busy these
days, but let me know if I can help at all in getting the A.P. site put
together.

In Dub,
Dr. StrangeDub
http://humlog.homestead.com/strangedubhome/StrangeDubHome.html


"Steenbergen, A. (Andre)" <Andre.Steenbergen@...> wrote:
From: "Steenbergen, A. (Andre)" <Andre.Steenbergen@...>

Hi list,

I browsed the onelist communities and was surprised to see there is a list
tributed to the late Augustus Pablo. I am a big reggae fan (especially the


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Thanx for mentioning the links, but there no special recommendations what to
listen first?


WWWhatsup wrote:

Welcome Andre

Augustus Pablo was pretty prolific, and a great collaborator and
producer. I doubt there ever wil be a complete list of his works.

There is a discography at
http://niceup.com/discographies/augustus_pablo

and a roundup of his major releases on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~regvibes/concert/augpablo/augpablo.htm

Give thanks, Jah Lion

This list originally formed to discuss the idea of making
a memorial site, and that is still an objective.

We should start work on building an archive.


Any material can be forwarded to me and I can host it
temporarily on streamola.com with links from the memorial stream.
http://209.73.37.202:7000/current.html and we can then
consider ways of better presenting it. If you want to mail
in tapes the addie is

A.Pablo c/o WWWhatsup
PO Box 649
New York NY 10159-0649

The stream itself has run interrupted since 27 May 1999 and quietly made history
by hosting the first ever live online sound system meeting (Black
Redemption vs WiLdFiYaH) back on 1 Aug 1999.
(the two sounds took it in turn to feed the server). It attracts
a few hundred listeners weekly worldwide.


JAHLION777@... wrote:
>
>
>
> i have a complete ? listing of all of pablo's known works -
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i have a complete ? listing of all of pablo's known works - albums,
collaborations, singles, stuff he produced as well - i will try and locate it
for you - i love augustus - he will be missed - hope you have his new one -
valley of jehosaphat - sweetness - totally - well - peace and blessings til
such time - brian

Welcome Andre

Augustus Pablo was pretty prolific, and a great collaborator and
producer. I doubt there ever wil be a complete list of his works.

There is a discography at
http://niceup.com/discographies/augustus_pablo

and a roundup of his major releases on
http://www.xs4all.nl/~regvibes/concert/augpablo/augpablo.htm



"Steenbergen, A. (Andre)" wrote:
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>  But there is more, I guess......
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Hi list,

I browsed the onelist communities and was surprised to see there is a list
tributed to the late Augustus Pablo. I am a big reggae fan (especially the
early seventies are my favourite period) and own quite some albums/CD's.
Favourites: Lee Perry, Yabby You, Dr. Alimentado, Jah Lion, etc. and
Augustus Pablo of course.
I joined the list as a fan and hope to get more info about the enormous
discography of A.P. I know his King Tubby meets rockers uptown, Africa must
be free (+ dub) and some of his various artist albums.
I particulary like various artist albums and I would like you to give me
some recommendations. I know the albums An even harder shade of black
(excellent! on pressure sounds label) and Original Rockers (Mango, I think),
which both are excellent. But there is more, I guess......

Greetings André

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   Augustus Pablo Memorial Stream presents
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   * nyc selecter special *


   Black Redemption vs TwinSound


   * Sun Nov 21 1999 *
   Venue: WWWhatsup NYC
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http://209.73.37.202:7000/current.html
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yes the selecters are fashionably late so it looks like it will
run more like 10pm or so.

In the meantime I am serving up a classic NYC battle
from around 10 years ago,.
Selecters include Catherine Tobias from Irie Ites,
John the Italian from Ujima, Lepke from DBC (UK), and your own WWW rolls some
classics.

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just one I screw up

    punkcast.com - social chaos live feed from Tramps
    http://209.73.37.202:7782/current.html

*we are mess with the LAN could be down thurs evening*
elsewise enjoy!


--------streams---- winamp not realplayer
soundcheck - dubbing in a lovers style - wackies workout
http://209.73.37.201:1892/current.html

pablo memorial - prophecy reveal - begin session - ak - kush
http://209.73.37.202:7000/current.html

roots relay - ak the conqueror - journey down lovers lane
http://209.73.37.202:7777/current.html

test relay - Reggae Club - Radio Malta - Manwell
http://209.73.37.201:1142/current.html

on-u test trickle - slits live - dbc83 - scratch on the wire
http://209.73.37.202:7171/current.html

stubborn records - version city selection
http://209.73.37.202:8050/current.html

dread broadcast corp - on air 1982
http://209.73.37.201:8050/current.html

punkcast.com - social chaos live feed from Tramps
http://209.73.37.202:1982/current.html

gretton memorial  - The Drones - live in NYC
http://209.73.37.201:3333/current.html


------On demand----- realplayer or winamp
manwell's dennis tribute
http://streamola.com/reggaeclub/dennis.html

dreadmon TEVA special
http://streamola.com/ycr/dreadmon.ram

------download------ [right click / save as ]
wwwhatsup - long distance lovers segment
http://streamola.com/1892/www990817.mp3

Anna Fisher - Renaissance In Formation - CD Quality
http://streamola.com/molinus/anna_fisher_break_the_silence.mp3

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name the artist:
http://streamola.com/ycr/DRBIRDSW.RM



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a  sunday afternoon lazer

classic studio one selection running as
warm up for pablo stream session tonight

http://209.73.37.201:1892/current.html

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  Augustus Pablo Memorial Stream presents
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an internet sound session in a mp3 fashion

   * reeds roots reggae *
       featuring the  music of Anna Fisher
          special guest: Humble Tafari

       Sun Aug 8 1999 7pm EST
      Yard: WildFiYah Roots Arena
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/wildfiyahrootsarena
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Flow:  http://209.73.37.202:7000/current.html
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a watershed event..

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  Augustus Pablo Memorial Stream presents
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an internet sound session in a mp3 fashion

         * A night of friendliness *
  WildFiYah (atlanta) meet Black Redemption (nyc)
                   special guest: Dubmon

        * Sun Aug 1 1999 7pm EST *
      Venue: WildFiYah Roots Arena
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/wildfiyahrootsarena
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Matthew...I cant confirm this but you probably have heard the very sad
rumour that he was beaten to death a few weeks back. I believe Robert
Schoenfield of Nighthawk Records was going to try to find out more through
someone in Ja who was close to Jah Lloyd. He can be emailed at
Robert@...

Mark
http://www.soulpacific.com.au/fire/

>From: "Matthew Brandford" <brandfordmatthew@...>
>
>Jah Jah Greetings from England,
>Please help !
>I am franticaly searching the net to find out the truth about the death of
>Pat Francis aka Jah Lloyd.
>I have exausted all the search engines I know of and would appreciate
>some help from the pablo-ites.
>
>Jah Love,
>
>Mat.
>
>House of Roots Outernational.

yes Matt

the first I've heard of it, i will ask around.

Matthew Brandford wrote:
>
>
> I am franticaly searching the net to find out the truth about the death of
> Pat Francis aka Jah Lloyd.
> I have exausted all the search engines I know of and would appreciate
> some help from the pablo-ites.
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Jah Jah Greetings from England,
Please help !
I am franticaly searching the net to find out the truth about the death of
Pat Francis aka Jah Lloyd.
I have exausted all the search engines I know of and would appreciate
some help from the pablo-ites.

Jah Love,

Mat.

House of Roots Outernational.

Fans, friends and family from all over Jamaica and the rest
   of the world are invited to pay their last respects to
   Jamaican music icon, Reggae's Crown Prince, Dennis Emmanuel
   Brown, on Saturday, July 17 at the National Arena. The
   Crown Price will lie in state on Thursday July 15 at the
   Ward Theatre, downtown Kingston, from 10:00 a.m.- 7:00 p.m.
   and on Friday, July 16 at the headquarters of the Twelve
   Tribes of Israel, also from 10:00 a.m. - 7:00 p.m.
   The Dennis Brown Farewell Organising Committee and the
   Ministry of Local Government, Youth and Community
   Development have organised a 3-day celebration for the life
   of Jamaica's most prolific international recording star.
   The salute to Dennis Emmanuel Brown will culminate on
   Saturday July 17, starting with a celebratory service
   beginning at 11:00 a.m. A part of the program includes
   tributes by inseparable friends, organized by Reggae star,
   Freddie Mc Gregor, who will also perform. Already confirmed
   to make musical salute are Nadine Sutherland, all-female
   choir_ JAFA, AJ Brown, Richie Stephens, Pam Hall, George
   Nooks and children of the late superstar.
   The final farewell will take place at the National Heroes
   Park.
   Cabinet yesterday approved the earthly resting place of
   Dennis Brown to be that section of the National Heroes park
   reserved for Jamaicans who have made an outstanding national
   contribution in their respective fields of endeavour.
   A free concert follows at the National Heroes park.
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