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--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, Ronald Williams <ronwill1955@...> wrote:
>
> Hi BJ,
> Here is a link to my website :
> www.ronwilliamsmusic.org
> I think I have an audio file of Gavotte on it.
> I welcom your comments.
> Thanks, Ron
>

BJ: Ron it sounds like the right speed for an
actual dance, but I don't know what it looks like,
so it is just a guess. I like a little heavier
beat, like Alvin suggests (2/2), on the first
and third in 4/4, but admit that I have a little
difficulty in actually performing it.

BJ: For a solo, I am thinking that a little
faster pace would sound brighter. It is
my reason for asking the question.

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Melvin" <alan@...> wrote:
>
> In the 6th cello suite the 2/2 beat is almost unavoidable because of the
chords. All other Gavottes I can remember are also in 2/2, but it is possible to
forget and play them as 4/4, and sound like a total dork. Please don't do that
to Bach. Bach wrote a lot of 2/2, which was usually indicated as a c with a line
through it (like the American symbol for "cents"). Even publishers screw this up
sometimes and put "c" by mistake, so be safe, when in doubt tap your foot twice
per measure and see if it sounds less dorky.
>

BJ: I quite agree with the 2/2 beat comment. I am wondering
about the tempo too. And I "feel" that I should use semi-staccato
(forgot the correct term for it) for some other beats. Full
value of written notes does not make sense to me. It is
dance music after all, and the description is that the feet
were lifted in the steps. So how fast was this dance, and
when Bach got to it had it become something else?

Bob

In the 6th cello suite the 2/2 beat is almost unavoidable because of the chords.
All other Gavottes I can remember are also in 2/2, but it is possible to forget
and play them as 4/4, and sound like a total dork. Please don't do that to Bach.
Bach wrote a lot of 2/2, which was usually indicated as a c with a line through
it (like the American symbol for "cents"). Even publishers screw this up
sometimes and put "c" by mistake, so be safe, when in doubt tap your foot twice
per measure and see if it sounds less dorky.

BJ: I am working on the Gavotte I & II transposed for
Guitar from the 6th Cello Suite. But as a general matter
I would like to know the tempo, beat, and phrasing
for Gavottes in general. How do members approach this?

Thanks

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Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:12 PM

Subject: [bachforguitar] performance Prelude Lute suite IV

Is there some article or reflexion about performance of these beatiful prelude?  (BWV 1006 a)

best wishes for all members of these interesting group

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BJ: It turns out that TuxGuitar can save in its own
format and all Guitar Pro formats. It automatically
imports and reads PowerTab (.ptb) files, but does not save
them after editing. It also imports TablEdit (.tef) files.
It imports MIDI (.mid) and exports MIDI files.

BJ: So what you can do if you like the GPLed clone of
Guitar Pro editing is import the other formats (.ptb and
.tef), export them as MIDIs (.mid), and then import
the resulting mid to the other editors if you like
some features they have that TuxGuitar (Guitar Pro)
doesn't have.

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Jaffray." <bobjaffray@...>
wrote:
>
> BJ: I don't have Guitar Pro and so when faced with
> .gp5 files in the Files - Other member uploads, I
> didn't know what to do.
>
> BJ: For anyone in the same situation, TuxGuitar is
> available for windows (as well as Linux) under GPL
> (basically free software). It handles common formats,
> .ptb, import .tef, imports and exports .mid, and
> most importantly handles .gp3, .gp4, and .gp5. It also
> has its own format, and you can create new files.
>
> Bob
>

BJ: Alan, are you there? You have done some
transcriptions for guitar of Bach's works. I
am wondering if I am doing the right thing.

BJ: I took some tracks of the Sonata and
combined them. The flute was an octave too
high for the guitar, and the bass an octave
too low. On transposing and looking at and
listening to the results, it sounds a little
heavy at the beginning compared to the original,
but not too unreasonable. On going through,
the spread of the base compared to the treble
is not so great that it seems undoable on the
guitar (have gone through the first half
but not the second). But I am not accomplished
enough to really know. There are a couple of
places where cross-fret barring seems natural.

BJ: I am putting the transcription as a .mid
file under "Other Transcriptions" in in the
Member section of "Files."

BJ: Which TAB program do you use yourself?
TablEdit, PowerTab, GuitarPro, or other? Now
that I have TuxGuitar I can now handle .gp5.

Bob

BJ: I don't have Guitar Pro and so when faced with
.gp5 files in the Files - Other member uploads, I
didn't know what to do.

BJ: For anyone in the same situation, TuxGuitar is
available for windows (as well as Linux) under GPL
(basically free software). It handles common formats,
.ptb, import .tef, imports and exports .mid, and
most importantly handles .gp3, .gp4, and .gp5. It also
has its own format, and you can create new files.

Bob

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BJ: Well, I had not really listened to the original
Saraband, BWV812 French Suite 1_1. So now I am not
really happy with the rendition for guitar that
is in a book I was given as a gift. It was _way_ to
slim.

BJ: So I been wasting a lot of time adding harmony
notes with Anvil Studio (free slimmed down version).
I am wondering if there is someone out there that
can critique it for good sound and playability.

Bob

BJ: I think the companion piece to the saraband might
be the BWV1034 Adagio. Anyone play this?

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Jaffray." <bobjaffray@...>
wrote:
>
> bj: I have saraband transcribed for guitar from the
> First French suite. I would like a number in 4/4 that
> is in a simlar pace and feel. Is there a pavanne
> anywhere?
>
> Bob
>

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bj: I have saraband transcribed for guitar from the
First French suite. I would like a number in 4/4 that
is in a simlar pace and feel. Is there a pavanne
anywhere?

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Farr" <alan.farr@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> That's a good one . . . I hadn't noticed the faint Eo note until
now . . . now I hear it all the time.
> An effective way to overcome it, I aver, is to barré at the 3rd
fret with the 3rd finger positioned at the 1st string A and pluck
just the 4th string F and 1st string A.
>
> See diagram:
> E 0--5---0---------|-----------
> B ---|-6---3---0-1-|0----------
> G 2--|-------5-----|-----2-0---
> D ---3-----4-------|-------3---
> A ---|-------------|-----------
> E 1--|-------------|3--3-------
>
>   3  3 4 0 1 4 0 1 3 3 2 4
>   1  1 2
>      | = barré
>
> With the barré, the faint Eo note is eliminated, I find (. . .
think, anyway).

BJ: I am going to try it. The movement to position III
has to be quick.

> With the right hand, on the second beat, I'm using p (4th string)
and a (1st string), followed immediately by m (2nd string).


> Is there an issue with ringiness of the 1st string? The open note
sounds nice to me because of its extra length.

BJ: I changed to wound B & G strings to make the brilliance
to the E closer. But it is not enough. I have tried using
the flesh of the finger on the E string. This introduces
a slight thud but softer ring, but I can't get it consistent.

> I was much more troubled by fingering later in the piece, which I
seem to have more or less under control now - although it seems to
have taken ages. Still struggling in some places, though.

BJ: Yes. I would be interest in what you do later in the
piece.

Bob

> Regards,
> Alan Farr
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Bob Jaffray.
>   To: bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:35 PM
>   Subject: [bachforguitar] Re: Air on G String (BWV1068) transcr -
Still working on it
>
>
>   BJ: Alan, when I try your fingering to move from your first chord
>   played with finters 0/3/1 (E0 G2 E1=e'aF) to 3/1 (A5 D3=a'f) I
get
>   a faint low E0 sound when I lift the 1st finger. It is very
>   distracting. I have tried damping with the 2nd finger but
>   that makes the gap between the first and second beats even
>   greater.
>
>   BJ: Have you run into this problem? and if so what do
>   you do about it? On the second beat do you use i & a or
>   i & m with the right hand, or do you use p & a or p &
>   m?
>
>   BJ: I still don't know what to do about the ringiness
>   of the open high E string. Does anyone else have a
>   suggestion about this?
>
>   Bob
>
>   --- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Farr" <alan.farr@>
>   wrote:
>   >
>   > Dear Bob,
>   >
>   > I've been practicing this quite a lot over the past 2/3 weeks,
too.
>   > I favour the following :
>   >
>   > E 0--5---0---------|-----------
>   > B -----6---3---0-1-|0----------
>   > G 2----------5-----|-----2-0---
>   > D ---3-----4-------|-------3---
>   > A -----------------|-----------
>   > E 1----------------|3--3-------
>   >
>   > 3 3 4 0 1 4 0 1 3 3 2 4
>   > 1 1 2
>   >
>   > No 'big stretch' required and the notes ring nicely and run
>   > together nicely, too.
>   >
>   > Regards,
>   > Alan Farr
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob Jaffray.

To: bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 11:35 PM

Subject: [bachforguitar] Re: Air on G String (BWV1068) transcr - Still working on it

BJ: Alan, when I try your fingering to move from your first chord
played with finters 0/3/1 (E0 G2 E1=e'aF) to 3/1 (A5 D3=a'f) I get
a faint low E0 sound when I lift the 1st finger. It is very
distracting. I have tried damping with the 2nd finger but
that makes the gap between the first and second beats even
greater.

BJ: Have you run into this problem? and if so what do
you do about it? On the second beat do you use i & a or
i & m with the right hand, or do you use p & a or p &
m?

BJ: I still don't know what to do about the ringiness
of the open high E string. Does anyone else have a
suggestion about this?

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Farr" <alan.farr@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> I've been practicing this quite a lot over the past 2/3 weeks, too.
> I favour the following :
>
> E 0--5---0---------|-----------
> B -----6---3---0-1-|0----------
> G 2----------5-----|-----2-0---
> D ---3-----4-------|-------3---
> A -----------------|-----------
> E 1----------------|3--3-------
>
> 3 3 4 0 1 4 0 1 3 3 2 4
> 1 1 2
>
> No 'big stretch' required and the notes ring nicely and run
> together nicely, too.
>
> Regards,
> Alan Farr

BJ: Alan, when I try your fingering to move from your first chord
played with finters 0/3/1 (E0 G2 E1=e'aF) to 3/1 (A5 D3=a'f) I get
a faint low E0 sound when I lift the 1st finger. It is very
distracting. I have tried damping with the 2nd finger but
that makes the gap between the first and second beats even
greater.

BJ: Have you run into this problem? and if so what do
you do about it? On the second beat do you use i & a or
i & m with the right hand, or do you use p & a or p &
m?

BJ: I still don't know what to do about the ringiness
of the open high E string. Does anyone else have a
suggestion about this?

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Farr" <alan.farr@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> I've been practicing this quite a lot over the past 2/3 weeks, too.
> I favour the following  :
>
> E 0--5---0---------|-----------
> B -----6---3---0-1-|0----------
> G 2----------5-----|-----2-0---
> D ---3-----4-------|-------3---
> A -----------------|-----------
> E 1----------------|3--3-------
>
>   3  3 4 0 1 4 0 1  3  3 2 4
>   1  1     2
>
> No 'big stretch' required and the notes ring nicely and run
> together nicely, too.
>
> Regards,
> Alan Farr

BJ: I have been continuing with the Air. My next question is
how you handle the high Bb. Do you play the open E and then
move up to play in 5th position, or do you slide up to the
Bb and then play in 3rd position. I think you know the
place that I am referring to.

BJ: There are other places too where I would like to
compare fingerings.

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Farr" <alan.farr@...>
wrote:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> I've been practicing this quite a lot over the past 2/3 weeks, too.
> I favour the following  :
>
> E 0--5---0---------|-----------
> B -----6---3---0-1-|0----------
> G 2----------5-----|-----2-0---
> D ---3-----4-------|-------3---
> A -----------------|-----------
> E 1----------------|3--3-------
>
>   3  3 4 0 1 4 0 1  3  3 2 4
>   1  1     2
>
> No 'big stretch' required and the notes ring nicely and run
> together nicely, too.
>
> Regards,
> Alan Farr
> (PS I formatted the tablature as Courier New in the
> email, but the font gets changed by YahooGroups.
> In order to get the spacing of the tablature the same as I wrote
> it, you'd have to open the email as a "Forward Message" and
> change the font back to Courier New. )
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bob Jaffray.
> To: bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:30 PM
> Subject: [bachforguitar] Re: Air on G String (BWV1068) transcr -
New
> question
>
>
> --- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Jaffray." <bobjaffray@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Jaffray." <bobjaffray@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > BJ: I am having trouble with the 3rd measure. I started with
> > > the big stretch a' 4th and f with 3rd finger. When attempting
> > > fingers 1 and 3 in order to use 4th at (2) fret 7 there is
> > > a little detectible gap in the sound from the preceeding
> > > chord e'aF. What do others do?
> > >
> > > Bob Jaffray
> >
> > BJ: I decided to stick with the big stretch:
>
> BJ: Oh, oh. I forgot to put in the fingering
>
> > E 0----5--1--------------|-----------
> > B -----------3--1--0--1--|0----------
> > G 2----------------------|-------2-0-
> > D -----3-----4-----------|---------3-
> > A -----------------------|-----------
> > E 1----------------2-----|3----3-----
>
> 2 4 1 3 1 1 2
> 1 2 4 2 3 4
>
> BJ: Is this the right way to indicate it?
> >
> > BJ: Next question. On my instrument the open E is very ringy
> > compared to all other notes. I presume this is generally
> > true. So if one _has_ to use the open high E, how does one
> > make it less ringy in order for the sound to be harmonious
> > with other notes? Or what does one do to make the others
> > more resounding to more closely match the E? I have
> > already put on wound B and G strings, which helps _a little_.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > > --- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Jaffray."
> <bobjaffray@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > BJ: I am curious. What are members playing
> > > > of JS Bach these days? Are we mostly
> > > > "intermediate" guitarists? How many have
> > > > tackled BWV1068 (Air on the G String) in its
> > > > common transcription.
> > > >
> > > > Bob Jaffray
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

BJ: I am not really happy with either version that I
uploaded. The full chord version sounds too full. The
sparse version sounds to low and bassy. The original
keyboard version is, of course, and octave higher and
sounds fine. What do others think? Should the sparse
version be transposed to a different key?

BJ: And I am asking again if the version others
have referred to corresponds to either of the versions
I uploaded.

Bob

--- In bachforguitar@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Jaffray." <bobjaffray@...>
wrote:
>
> BJ: I have uploaded two versions of Bach's Minuet in G
> from the Anna Magdalena Notebook adapted for guitar.
>
> BJ: The first is one that seems to have been used in
> Christopher Parkening's Vol. 1 and elsewhere. I imported
> it into PowerTab and saved it _as is_ without editing
> the fret positions.
>
> BJ: The second is a full chord version with arpeggiated
> chords. I created this from an existing rendition to
> add the chords in Anvil Studio, then imported into
> PowerTab, and edited the fret positions downward.
>
> BJ: I am wondering which of these is cloer to the
> version that has been mentioned on the list recently.
>
> Bob
>

BJ: I have uploaded two versions of Bach's Minuet in G
from the Anna Magdalena Notebook adapted for guitar.

BJ: The first is one that seems to have been used in
Christopher Parkening's Vol. 1 and elsewhere. I imported
it into PowerTab and saved it _as is_ without editing
the fret positions.

BJ: The second is a full chord version with arpeggiated
chords. I created this from an existing rendition to
add the chords in Anvil Studio, then imported into
PowerTab, and edited the fret positions downward.

BJ: I am wondering which of these is cloer to the
version that has been mentioned on the list recently.

Bob

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