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#453 From: Casey Parker <caseypar@...>
Date: Fri May 1, 2009 6:00 pm
Subject: Call For Papers - June 2009 GUBOQS Gazette
acwosha
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5/1/09

Call For Papers - June 2009 GUBOQS Gazette

To: Harmonetters,SPEBnet,AHSOWnet,BQPA;
Cc:Mark Sheldon,BarbershopQuartet,FWD
Bcc: Distr LS, Authors

This is the call for papers for the June 2009 issue of the GUBOQS Gazette*, an independent pro-quartet publication.  We publish success stories describing regular quartet encouragement sessions held during chapter meetings.  We seek creative ideas which influence SPEBSQSA members to try quartetting.  Authors receive free introductory issues

Do your quartet sessions give every member an opportunity to sing with three others at every meeting?  Email me a one page article describing your program.  The target date for your article is two weeks from today.

Thank you,

Casey Parker
Editor
GUBOQS Gazette
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*PS - Subscriptions ($12 via US mail) are available from:
C. Parker, Editor
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 The GUBOQS Gazette
An occasional publication of the GUBOQS Group
(Get Us Back Our QUARTET Society, formerly GUBOS)
Volume 20,  Issue 3                                                                                                March 2009
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Dedicated to the interchange of ideas on restoring quartetting to spebsQsa
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Table of Contents
KEEPING THE DREAM ALIVE by Tom Wheatley
TOGETHER IN HARMONY by Tom Neal
APPLY FOR THE ATLANTIC HARMONY BRIGADE NOW! by Neal Siegal
GOOD SINGING HABITS by Dan Dekowski
MEMBERSHIP TASK FORCE by Bill Biffle
SINGING VALENTINES by Jack Martin
BARBERSHOP QUARTET PRESERVATION     ASSOCIATION MEETS by Rex Touslee

QUARTET CHAPTER DEMONSTRATION AT ANAHEIM
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#454 From: "pmfitzie" <pmfitzg@...>
Date: Mon May 4, 2009 1:31 am
Subject: Bari seeking NE quartet
pmfitzie
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I'm a baritone with Coastline Show Chorus looking for strong women's quartet
with eye toward eventually competing. Live in Foxboro and willing to travel up
to an hour. Will try out with several groups to find right blend.

#455 From: "akousen" <akousen@...>
Date: Mon May 4, 2009 1:46 am
Subject: Dixie Srs Quartet lkg for Lead
akousen
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Three Experienced Sr singers, and members of Winston Salem chorus are looking
for a Lead, that is competitive and wants to sing with a Quality quartet. Prefer
someone with competition and stage experience.

All of us have over 10 years of experience, participated in numerous Brigades in
MAD and NC, have won at district and division contests. We also are from all
parts of NC, from Boone, to Greensboro to Charlotte.

We are holding open auditions May and June.

#456 From: Tony Petro <trubador@...>
Date: Tue May 5, 2009 11:04 am
Subject: RE: Dixie Srs Quartet lkg for Lead
tonys_music
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Hi all!

 

I am interested in your quartet.  I am an experienced lead with a lot of division & district experience.  I was also a front line Director for 15 years winning division titles.  I am willing to travel for the right group.  I have been singing with AHB for 4 years and will be there this year as well.  I currently sing lead with Mainline Chord Company but would relish the opportunity to sing for the Gold.  BTW I am 61.  Can we talk?

 

Tony

 


From: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of akousen
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 9:47 PM
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Dixie Srs Quartet lkg for Lead

 




Three Experienced Sr singers, and members of Winston Salem chorus are looking for a Lead, that is competitive and wants to sing with a Quality quartet. Prefer someone with competition and stage experience.

All of us have over 10 years of experience, participated in numerous Brigades in MAD and NC, have won at district and division contests. We also are from all parts of NC, from Boone, to Greensboro to Charlotte.

We are holding open auditions May and June.


#457 From: "Jenn" <jenn@...>
Date: Fri May 8, 2009 1:14 pm
Subject: Female Quartet Needs Bass
singinchorus
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ATTENTION Basses!
Three members of the three time Region 16 Championship Quartet "All the Rage!"
and 2008 Champions "Tetra" are looking to start a new quartet. We are three
motivated singers just north of Albany, NY. We are currently looking for a
melodic bass to complete our foursome.
We are planning auditions for June 20th.
If you are interested, contact Jenn at   jenn@...

#458 From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
Date: Sat May 9, 2009 1:26 pm
Subject: Quartet Matchup site
djhatley
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In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
groups.google.com/group/BQPA ) about http://quartetmatchup.com ,
there is a Yahoo Group:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/barbershopquartet/

with exactly the same purpose.

I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.


Harmoniously,

Derek

Visit my arrangements web site at:
http://www.HatleyMusic.com

Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
Great Lakes Chorus
Grand Rapids Chapter
Pioneer District

E-mail: Derek@...

#459 From: Alan Kousen <akousen@...>
Date: Sat May 9, 2009 9:28 pm
Subject: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
akousen
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Hi all
 
There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
 
When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer"?
 
My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
 
I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
 
Alan

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:

From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups.com>, barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM

In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com ,
there is a Yahoo Group:

http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/

with exactly the same purpose.

I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.

Harmoniously,

Derek

Visit my arrangements web site at:
http://www.HatleyMu sic.com

Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
Great Lakes Chorus
Grand Rapids Chapter
Pioneer District

E-mail: Derek@HatleyMusic. com



#460 From: "John" <jg62bbshop@...>
Date: Sun May 10, 2009 12:22 am
Subject: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
jg62bbshop
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As the creator of this group, my intent was first and foremost to make it a
central location where people could find other people wanting to quartet. I
believe that is what the other site does also. It's no competition. I could care
less if there is this group or that group or both. Personally, I have been
talked to about rolling this thing into the BHS site as a central site for
quartetters. I'd love that.

As far as "most barbershoppers" not being aware....  that's through no lack of
effort. I emailed every chapter in my district, their president and
music/quartet person. I also emailed every district (Pres./Music/Quartet Dev.
guy) with an announcement as well as every district newsletter that I could
find.

I got very little response. What can you do? And then, unfortunately, we get
other people wanting the same thing and then creating THEIR own sites so that we
have five or ten sites out there to do this kind of thing that, essentially,
most people aren't aware of.

It's sad, really. If there was one site tied into the main BHS site, that would
be the place to go.

John Rentz

--- In barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com, Alan Kousen <akousen@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>  
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group
provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a
quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most
barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>  
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were
mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted
the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do
you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer"?
>  
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and
these websites are just one way to do it.
>  
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>  
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups.com>, barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Derek@HatleyMusic. com
>

#461 From: Brett Auttonberry <opus27no2@...>
Date: Sun May 10, 2009 1:43 am
Subject: RE: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
ancientmusic...
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John,
 
I agree whole-heartedly with you.  I know that I, for one, spread the word of this Yahoo! Group to my chorus (I'm their Director) and to guys at HU I quaretted with over ice cream (lots and lots of ice cream), in the woodsheddin' venue and other places that week.  We ALL need to do our part to get guys quartetting.
 
As far as the BHS is concerned, sometimes I worry that, if it isn't their idea, they don't move full force on it.  I truly hope I'm wrong about that.  This and every site that offers this service is only a way to reach our true goal: getting men singing together!
 
Yours in HARMONY,
 
Brett Auttonberry


Cool link: http://www.myspace.com/louisianashowboatchorus




 

To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
From: jg62bbshop@...
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:22:57 +0000
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion



As the creator of this group, my intent was first and foremost to make it a central location where people could find other people wanting to quartet. I believe that is what the other site does also. It's no competition. I could care less if there is this group or that group or both. Personally, I have been talked to about rolling this thing into the BHS site as a central site for quartetters. I'd love that.

As far as "most barbershoppers" not being aware.... that's through no lack of effort. I emailed every chapter in my district, their president and music/quartet person. I also emailed every district (Pres./Music/Quartet Dev. guy) with an announcement as well as every district newsletter that I could find.

I got very little response. What can you do? And then, unfortunately, we get other people wanting the same thing and then creating THEIR own sites so that we have five or ten sites out there to do this kind of thing that, essentially, most people aren't aware of.

It's sad, really. If there was one site tied into the main BHS site, that would be the place to go.

John Rentz

--- In barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com, Alan Kousen <akousen@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>  
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>  
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer"?
>  
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
>  
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>  
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups.com>, barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Derek@HatleyMusic. com
>




Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.

#462 From: LSDIVERGAL@...
Date: Sat May 9, 2009 10:17 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
lsdivergirl
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erm....and women!! No matter the part, the age, the association...singing in a quartet makes better singing chorus members!!
 
Yours EQUALLY as harmoniously...(big grin)
Melinda Miller
Bass
Proud 25 year (oh my how did that happen) member of SAI and
Lone Star Chorus
Fort Worth, TX
 
 
In a message dated 5/9/2009 8:43:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, opus27no2@... writes:




John,
 
I agree whole-heartedly with you.  I know that I, for one, spread the word of this Yahoo! Group to my chorus (I'm their Director) and to guys at HU I quaretted with over ice cream (lots and lots of ice cream), in the woodsheddin' venue and other places that week.  We ALL need to do our part to get guys quartetting.
 
As far as the BHS is concerned, sometimes I worry that, if it isn't their idea, they don't move full force on it.  I truly hope I'm wrong about that.  This and every site that offers this service is only a way to reach our true goal: getting men singing together!
 
Yours in HARMONY,
 
Brett Auttonberry


Cool link: http://www.myspace.com/louisianashowboatchorus




 


To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
From: jg62bbshop@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:22:57 +0000
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion



As the creator of this group, my intent was first and foremost to make it a central location where people could find other people wanting to quartet. I believe that is what the other site does also. It's no competition. I could care less if there is this group or that group or both. Personally, I have been talked to about rolling this thing into the BHS site as a central site for quartetters. I'd love that.

As far as "most barbershoppers" not being aware.... that's through no lack of effort. I emailed every chapter in my district, their president and music/quartet person. I also emailed every district (Pres./Music/Quartet Dev. guy) with an announcement as well as every district newsletter that I could find.

I got very little response. What can you do? And then, unfortunately, we get other people wanting the same thing and then creating THEIR own sites so that we have five or ten sites out there to do this kind of thing that, essentially, most people aren't aware of.

It's sad, really. If there was one site tied into the main BHS site, that would be the place to go.

John Rentz

--- In barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com, Alan Kousen <akousen@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>  
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>  
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer"?
>  
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
>  
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>  
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups.com>, barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Derek@HatleyMusic. com
>




Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.


#463 From: Alan Kousen <akousen@...>
Date: Sun May 10, 2009 4:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
akousen
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Wonderful discussion!  Consider this... there are quartets, and there are quartets that sing well and are a complement to our singing hobby.
 
I have been embarassed more than just a few times when I hear 4 gents in a public place belting out a terrible sound, totally oblivious of the needed Harmony and artistry.
 
Public performances should expect a benchmark good singing.  Singing in a good quartet  have members which understand the work, the creativity, the accuracy that goes into each and every time they sing.
 
YES, GOOD quartet singing generally means the members will be good chorus members. BUT conversely, not all chorus members UNDERSTAND the difference between chorus singing and quartet singing. 
 
One other thought.... Not all BHS members want to be chorus members. They may be too far away, or some other reason. This yahoo group and the quartet registry are important to locating and finding quartet members, especially if the local talent pool is not sufficient. .
 
In Harmony,
Alan
 

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, LSDIVERGAL@... <LSDIVERGAL@...> wrote:

From: LSDIVERGAL@... <LSDIVERGAL@...>
Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 10:17 PM

erm....and women!! No matter the part, the age, the association. ..singing in a quartet makes better singing chorus members!!
 
Yours EQUALLY as harmoniously. ..(big grin)
Melinda Miller
Bass
Proud 25 year (oh my how did that happen) member of SAI and
Lone Star Chorus
Fort Worth, TX
 
 
In a message dated 5/9/2009 8:43:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, opus27no2@hotmail. com writes:




John,
 
I agree whole-heartedly with you.  I know that I, for one, spread the word of this Yahoo! Group to my chorus (I'm their Director) and to guys at HU I quaretted with over ice cream (lots and lots of ice cream), in the woodsheddin' venue and other places that week.  We ALL need to do our part to get guys quartetting.
 
As far as the BHS is concerned, sometimes I worry that, if it isn't their idea, they don't move full force on it.  I truly hope I'm wrong about that.  This and every site that offers this service is only a way to reach our true goal: getting men singing together!
 
Yours in HARMONY,
 
Brett Auttonberry


Cool link: http://www.myspace. com/louisianasho wboatchorus




 

To: barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
From: jg62bbshop@yahoo. com
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:22:57 +0000
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion



As the creator of this group, my intent was first and foremost to make it a central location where people could find other people wanting to quartet. I believe that is what the other site does also. It's no competition. I could care less if there is this group or that group or both. Personally, I have been talked to about rolling this thing into the BHS site as a central site for quartetters. I'd love that.

As far as "most barbershoppers" not being aware.... that's through no lack of effort. I emailed every chapter in my district, their president and music/quartet person. I also emailed every district (Pres./Music/ Quartet Dev. guy) with an announcement as well as every district newsletter that I could find.

I got very little response. What can you do? And then, unfortunately, we get other people wanting the same thing and then creating THEIR own sites so that we have five or ten sites out there to do this kind of thing that, essentially, most people aren't aware of.

It's sad, really. If there was one site tied into the main BHS site, that would be the place to go.

John Rentz

--- In barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com, Alan Kousen <akousen@... > wrote:
>
> Hi all
>  
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>  
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer" ?
>  
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
>  
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>  
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups. com>, barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Derek@HatleyMusic. com
>




Windows Liveâ„¢: Keep your life in sync. Check it out.


#464 From: "jenniferlwinston" <jenniferlwinston@...>
Date: Sun May 10, 2009 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
jenniferlwin...
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I'd just like to chime in here on the topic of this group and women.

Personally, I found, or rather was found by a fantastic Harmony Inc. quartet
using this yahoo group. I am truly grateful for this group's existence and
probably wouldn't have found it if it were attached to the BHS site. I think
this group is one small step towards more integration/cooperation between male
and female barbershoppers which is a good thing for all of us!

in Harmony,

Jen Winston
Lead, Coastline Show Chorus (SAI)
Teno, Escapade quartet (HI)


--- In barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com, LSDIVERGAL@... wrote:
>
> erm....and women!! No matter the part, the age, the association...singing
> in a quartet makes better singing chorus members!!
>
> Yours EQUALLY as harmoniously...(big grin)
> Melinda Miller
> Bass
> Proud 25 year (oh my how did that happen) member of SAI and
> Lone Star Chorus
> Fort Worth, TX
>
>

#465 From: "Donna Taylor" <leahdon_uk@...>
Date: Sun May 10, 2009 9:33 pm
Subject: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
leahdon_uk
Send Email Send Email
 
HI all,

As a female barbershopper in the UK, I really enjoy seeing all the posts here
asking for quartets/specific parts (I would love to find a quartet too, but
there doesn't appear to be many UK based people on here). I'm not sure if I'd be
able to use the BHS site.

Donna

#466 From: ewheadley@...
Date: Mon May 11, 2009 2:53 am
Subject: Re: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
ewheadley
Send Email Send Email
 
Gosh darn it !  I just knew there were like-minded Barbershoppers out there !   I agree with everything that has been going on with this discussion over the past few days(I just checked my email and haven't been able to chime in until just now).

ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS I AGREE WITH WHOLEHEARTEDLY  !!

If you want to hear my tales of woe trying to do this very same thing within the NED, just email me at :   ewheadley@...

I tried to get the appropriate officials within NED to start a bulletin board on the NED website for this very purpose and the idea was 'pooh-pooh' -ed in so many ways it wasn't funny......youknow, it just won't work, Ed, the only way you'll get into a quartet is to 'keep rubbing elbows'.   As well, I have written emails to appropraite individuals at National HQ about this......I got all the emails to prove it.

Just glad somebody has go ththe ball rolling and I just REGISTERED myself on this website :    quartetmatchup.com

Please talk to me, folks !  I'd appreciate your feedback......I thought I was the only one out there(certainly within NED) who had the idea of a bulletin-board for guys trying to form a new quartet, fill in a missing part for an existing quartet, etc.   HALLELUJAH !  PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMO !

Finally, contact has been made with like-minded folks !
Best Regards,

Ed Headley
Bass
Portland Downeasters Barbershop Chorus (K-015)
Edward W. Headley
P.O. Box 10631
Portland, Maine 04104-6031
(207) 773-9766 (phone)
(207) 773-4981 (fax)

--- On Sun, 5/10/09, Alan Kousen <akousen@...> wrote:

From: Alan Kousen <akousen@...>
Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 12:01 AM

Wonderful discussion!  Consider this... there are quartets, and there are quartets that sing well and are a complement to our singing hobby.
 
I have been embarassed more than just a few times when I hear 4 gents in a public place belting out a terrible sound, totally oblivious of the needed Harmony and artistry.
 
Public performances should expect a benchmark good singing.  Singing in a good quartet  have members which understand the work, the creativity, the accuracy that goes into each and every time they sing.
 
YES, GOOD quartet singing generally means the members will be good chorus members. BUT conversely, not all chorus members UNDERSTAND the difference between chorus singing and quartet singing. 
 
One other thought.... Not all BHS members want to be chorus members. They may be too far away, or some other reason. This yahoo group and the quartet registry are important to locating and finding quartet members, especially if the local talent pool is not sufficient. .
 
In Harmony,
Alan
 

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, LSDIVERGAL@aol. com <LSDIVERGAL@aol. com> wrote:

From: LSDIVERGAL@aol. com <LSDIVERGAL@aol. com>
Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
To: barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 10:17 PM

erm....and women!! No matter the part, the age, the association. ..singing in a quartet makes better singing chorus members!!
 
Yours EQUALLY as harmoniously. ..(big grin)
Melinda Miller
Bass
Proud 25 year (oh my how did that happen) member of SAI and
Lone Star Chorus
Fort Worth, TX
 
 
In a message dated 5/9/2009 8:43:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, opus27no2@hotmail. com writes:




John,
 
I agree whole-heartedly with you.  I know that I, for one, spread the word of this Yahoo! Group to my chorus (I'm their Director) and to guys at HU I quaretted with over ice cream (lots and lots of ice cream), in the woodsheddin' venue and other places that week.  We ALL need to do our part to get guys quartetting.
 
As far as the BHS is concerned, sometimes I worry that, if it isn't their idea, they don't move full force on it.  I truly hope I'm wrong about that.  This and every site that offers this service is only a way to reach our true goal: getting men singing together!
 
Yours in HARMONY,
 
Brett Auttonberry


Cool link: http://www.myspace. com/louisianasho wboatchorus




 

To: barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
From: jg62bbshop@yahoo. com
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 00:22:57 +0000
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion



As the creator of this group, my intent was first and foremost to make it a central location where people could find other people wanting to quartet. I believe that is what the other site does also. It's no competition. I could care less if there is this group or that group or both. Personally, I have been talked to about rolling this thing into the BHS site as a central site for quartetters. I'd love that.

As far as "most barbershoppers" not being aware.... that's through no lack of effort. I emailed every chapter in my district, their president and music/quartet person. I also emailed every district (Pres./Music/ Quartet Dev. guy) with an announcement as well as every district newsletter that I could find.

I got very little response. What can you do? And then, unfortunately, we get other people wanting the same thing and then creating THEIR own sites so that we have five or ten sites out there to do this kind of thing that, essentially, most people aren't aware of.

It's sad, really. If there was one site tied into the main BHS site, that would be the place to go.

John Rentz

--- In barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com, Alan Kousen <akousen@... > wrote:
>
> Hi all
>  
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>  
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer" ?
>  
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
>  
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>  
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups. com>, barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Derek@HatleyMusic. com
>




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#467 From: "John" <jg62bbshop@...>
Date: Mon May 11, 2009 3:11 am
Subject: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
jg62bbshop
Send Email Send Email
 
I got the same kind of replies and I just thought... hey, if I want to do it,
why do I need the approval from all the people that say no??

I decided there wasn't any reason not to just do it on my own because I KNEW
there were people out there that wanted this also.

I chose the Yahoo group route because it was easy and free. And once it got
going, I just decided to put up links and files and so on to just be whatever
help it could be.

It bugs me that there are other groups doing this not because "they took my
idea" or anything like that. It just means that we have a splintered effort
going on and it really should be concentrated through one central area that
anyone can access.

I scanned and scanned and scanned for any other resource out there like this and
I couldn't find it. Otherwise, I'd have just promoted that one.

I guess it's not a perfect world and all we can do is try to network with all
that we come across.

John



--- In barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com, ewheadley@... wrote:
>
> Gosh darn it !  I just knew there were like-minded Barbershoppers out there
!   I agree with everything that has been going on with this discussion over
the past few days(I just checked my email and haven't been able to chime in
until just now).
>
> ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS I AGREE WITH WHOLEHEARTEDLY  !!
>
> If you want to hear my tales of woe trying to do this very same thing within
the NED, just email me at :   ewheadley@...
>
> I tried to get the appropriate officials within NED to start a bulletin board
on the NED website for this very purpose and the idea was 'pooh-pooh' -ed in so
many ways it wasn't funny......youknow, it just won't work, Ed, the only way
you'll get into a quartet is to 'keep rubbing elbows'.   As well, I have
written emails to appropraite individuals at
>  National HQ about this......I got all the emails to prove it.
>
> Just glad somebody has go ththe ball rolling and I just REGISTERED myself on
this website :    quartetmatchup.com
>
> Please talk to me, folks !  I'd appreciate your feedback......I thought I was
the only one out there(certainly within NED) who had the idea of a
bulletin-board for guys trying to form a new quartet, fill in a missing part for
an existing quartet, etc.   HALLELUJAH !  PRAISE THE LORD AND PASS THE AMMO !
>
> Finally, contact has been made with like-minded folks !
> Best Regards,
>
> Ed Headley
> Bass
> Portland Downeasters Barbershop Chorus (K-015)
> Edward W. Headley
>
> P.O. Box 10631
>
> Portland, Maine 04104-6031
>
> (207) 773-9766 (phone)
>
> (207) 773-4981 (fax)

#468 From: "Stancil, Chris" <chris.stancil@...>
Date: Mon May 11, 2009 12:50 pm
Subject: RE: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
Chris2258
Send Email Send Email
 
I did send in something to try and get it mentioned in the Harmonizer but never saw anything published.


From: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Kousen
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:28 PM
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup sites/discussion

Hi all
 
There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
 
When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer"?
 
My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
 
I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
 
Alan

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@HatleyMusic.com> wrote:

From: Derek Hatley <Derek@HatleyMusic.com>
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups.com>, barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM

In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com ,
there is a Yahoo Group:

http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/

with exactly the same purpose.

I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.

Harmoniously,

Derek

Visit my arrangements web site at:
http://www.HatleyMu sic.com

Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
Great Lakes Chorus
Grand Rapids Chapter
Pioneer District

E-mail: Dere! k@HatleyMusic. com



#469 From: "John" <jg62bbshop@...>
Date: Mon May 11, 2009 4:18 pm
Subject: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
jg62bbshop
Send Email Send Email
 
First, let me state that I am huge supporter of HQ, the staff, and all they do.
I rarely, RARELY disparage them in any way.

It would seem that they will not advertise someone's personal web site or blog
or whatever unless it's a sanctioned kind of thing. (Or... unless they know you
real well. Which, actually, I do know most of the staff pretty well.)

And I understand why. I mean, you can't have HQ promoting and endorsing
something that they really don't have any control over. I'm sure you can picture
advertisements at HU, at International, and in the Harmonizer and then some
scandal breaks out about something. And then you have fall out from that. So... 
I understand.

And, I understand why the society hasn't done it yet themselves. That would take
a concerted effort by someone to set up and maintain. That takes time and money.
So, I understand that also. But, it just seems like this is one of the most
basic services we should provide.

John


--- In barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com, "Stancil, Chris" <chris.stancil@...>
wrote:
>
> I did send in something to try and get it mentioned in the Harmonizer but
never saw anything published.
>
> ________________________________
> From: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Kousen
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:28 PM
> To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
>
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group
provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a
quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most
barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were
mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted
the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries?  Do
you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer"?
>
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and
these websites are just one way to do it.
>
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups.com>, barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch
up.com<http://quartetmatchup.com/> ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte
t/<http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/barbershopquartet/>
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com<http://www.hatleymusic.com/>
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Dere! k@HatleyMusic.
com<http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Derek%40HatleyMusic.com>
>

#470 From: "Stancil, Chris" <chris.stancil@...>
Date: Mon May 11, 2009 5:33 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
Chris2258
Send Email Send Email
 
Well John you just killed this thread with a logical perspective. ;P
Thanks
Chris

From: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:18 AM
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion

First, let me state that I am huge supporter of HQ, the staff, and all they do. I rarely, RARELY disparage them in any way.

It would seem that they will not advertise someone's personal web site or blog or whatever unless it's a sanctioned kind of thing. (Or... unless they know you real well. Which, actually, I do know most of the staff pretty well.)

And I understand why. I mean, you can't have HQ promoting and endorsing something that they really don't have any control over. I'm sure you can picture advertisements at HU, at International, and in the Harmonizer and then some scandal breaks out about something. And then you have fall out from that. So... I understand.

And, I understand why the society hasn't done it yet themselves. That would take a concerted effort by someone to set up and maintain. That takes time and money. So, I understand that also. But, it just seems like this is one of the most basic services we should provide.

John

--- In barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com, "Stancil, Chris" <chris.stancil@...> wrote:
>
> I did send in something to try and get it mentioned in the Harmonizer but never saw anything published.
>
> ________________________________
> From: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com [mailto:barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Kousen
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:28 PM
> To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
>
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries? Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer"?
>
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
>
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups.com>, barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com<http://quartetmatchup.com/> ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/<http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/barbershopquartet/>
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com<http://www.hatleymusic.com/>
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Dere! k@HatleyMusic. com<http://us.mc375.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Derek%40HatleyMusic.com>
>


#471 From: Alan Kousen <akousen@...>
Date: Mon May 11, 2009 7:44 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
akousen
Send Email Send Email
 
Thus, the logic is to have the capability of these two websites remain annonymous, and no one at the HQ staff mentioning for fear of some future cataclysmic event.... I don't subscribe to this logic.
 
As long as these sites perform a valuable service to the greater BBS experience, both men and women, there is no harm. Its all out in the open. The "cost" to operate is minimal, since Yahoo.com generously donates it's webspace for this Quartet site.
 
Its about time the HQ becomes a member of the connected world. I am hoping that the Brigade movement might do something like these- however that has not yet happened. Perhaps they could promote these sites at thier annual gatherings?  I know that Charlie Rose has enthisastically embraced doing something like these.
 
Alan in NC
 
Anyone in a Brigade want to chime in?
 

--- On Mon, 5/11/09, Stancil, Chris <chris.stancil@...> wrote:

From: Stancil, Chris <chris.stancil@...>
Subject: RE: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
To: "barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com" <barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 1:33 PM

Well John you just killed this thread with a logical perspective. ;P
Thanks
Chris

From: barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:barbershopq uartet@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:18 AM
To: barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion

First, let me state that I am huge supporter of HQ, the staff, and all they do. I rarely, RARELY disparage them in any way.

It would seem that they will not advertise someone's personal web site or blog or whatever unless it's a sanctioned kind of thing. (Or... unless they know you real well. Which, actually, I do know most of the staff pretty well.)

And I understand why. I mean, you can't have HQ promoting and endorsing something that they really don't have any control over. I'm sure you can picture advertisements at HU, at International, and in the Harmonizer and then some scandal breaks out about something. And then you have fall out from that. So... I understand.

And, I understand why the society hasn't done it yet themselves. That would take a concerted effort by someone to set up and maintain. That takes time and money. So, I understand that also. But, it just seems like this is one of the most basic services we should provide.

John

--- In barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com, "Stancil, Chris" <chris.stancil@ ...> wrote:
>
> I did send in something to try and get it mentioned in the Harmonizer but never saw anything published.
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Alan Kousen
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 4:28 PM
> To: barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
>
>
>
>
> Hi all
>
> There is a distinct difference between the sites mentioned. The Yahoo group provides discussion threads, the other is strictly a registry. In my view, as a quartetter, there is a need for both to exist. What is unfortunate, is that most barbershopers are not aware these sites exist.
>
> When did you attend a convention or a barbershopping event where they were mentioned? What support has there been from the BHS? Has the Society promoted the websites in a newsletter to the PROBE editors or chapter secretaries? Do you see the websites in the BHS "Harmonizer" ?
>
> My point is only that the BHS needs to support quartets in many ways, and these websites are just one way to do it.
>
> I wonder if these sites are advertised or mentioned at HU?
>
> Alan
>
> --- On Sat, 5/9/09, Derek Hatley <Derek@...> wrote:
>
> From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
> Subject: [barbershopquartet] Quartet Matchup site
> To: "BQPA" <BQPA@googlegroups. com>, barbershopquartet@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:26 AM
>
> In response to the recent message in the BQPA forum (http://
> groups.google. com/group/ BQPA ) about http://quartetmatch up.com<http://quartetmatch up.com/> ,
> there is a Yahoo Group:
>
> http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/<http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ barbershopquarte t/>
>
> with exactly the same purpose.
>
> I'd suggest that the two sites promote and cooperate with each other.
>
> Harmoniously,
>
> Derek
>
> Visit my arrangements web site at:
> http://www.HatleyMu sic.com<http://www.hatleymu sic.com/>
>
> Derek Hatley, Arranger & Music Librarian
> Great Lakes Chorus
> Grand Rapids Chapter
> Pioneer District
>
> E-mail: Dere! k@HatleyMusic. com<http://us.mc375. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=Derek% 40HatleyMusic. com>
>



#472 From: Derek Hatley <Derek@...>
Date: Tue May 12, 2009 1:18 pm
Subject: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
djhatley
Send Email Send Email
 
John and all,

There are thousands of organizations that publish letters,
statements, opinions etc. from outsiders.  They cover their liability
by simply adding a disclaimer that the statements are those of the
contributors not of the organizations.  BHS could do this.  Why not?

Derek

> Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
>
> Posted by: "John" jg62bbshop@...   jg62bbshop
> Mon May 11, 2009 9:18 am (PDT)
>
>
>
> First, let me state that I am huge supporter of HQ, the staff, and
> all they do. I rarely, RARELY disparage them in any way.
>
> It would seem that they will not advertise someone's personal web
> site or blog or whatever unless it's a sanctioned kind of thing.
> (Or... unless they know you real well. Which, actually, I do know
> most of the staff pretty well.)
>
> And I understand why. I mean, you can't have HQ promoting and
> endorsing something that they really don't have any control over.
> I'm sure you can picture advertisements at HU, at International,
> and in the Harmonizer and then some scandal breaks out about
> something. And then you have fall out from that. So... I understand.
>
> And, I understand why the society hasn't done it yet themselves.
> That would take a concerted effort by someone to set up and
> maintain. That takes time and money. So, I understand that also.
> But, it just seems like this is one of the most basic services we
> should provide.
>
> John

#473 From: Leaderman <leaderman@...>
Date: Tue May 12, 2009 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
jcelving
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I have no problem with the Society putting links to other sites that are
related to what they are about. However, it seems to me that we are
looking to them to do for us what we should be doing for ourselves. It
really isn't their job to publicize all the different groups that are
starting up (and stopping). By posting occasional reminders on the
Harmonet itself, groups like this will get much more visibility than
through the Society.

I realize that some things are being pushed by them such as the Extreme
Quartetting, but that was only after it had taken off and was so
successful running on its own. Many festivals throughout the US are not
publicized by the Society unless the organizers of those festivals take
out the advertising (read spend the bucks) needed to publicize it.

Bottom line is that we are our own best publicity machine. Fire it up!

--
Sing-cerely & Humm-bly,

John Elving
VP Mus. & Perf.
Editor-in-Cheap, First Place 2008 Online Bulletin
Shrine of Democracy Chorus
2007 & 2008 BOTY
RMD CDD VP
PROBE VP- Bulletin Editors
Outstanding In Front - Certified Trainer
Certified Standing Ovation Trainer & Reviewer
Rapid City, SD
Email: leaderman@...



Derek Hatley wrote:
> John and all,
>
> There are thousands of organizations that publish letters,
> statements, opinions etc. from outsiders.  They cover their liability
> by simply adding a disclaimer that the statements are those of the
> contributors not of the organizations.  BHS could do this.  Why not?
>
> Derek
>
>
>> Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
>>
>> Posted by: "John" jg62bbshop@...   jg62bbshop
>> Mon May 11, 2009 9:18 am (PDT)
>>
>>
>>
>> First, let me state that I am huge supporter of HQ, the staff, and
>> all they do. I rarely, RARELY disparage them in any way.
>>
>> It would seem that they will not advertise someone's personal web
>> site or blog or whatever unless it's a sanctioned kind of thing.
>> (Or... unless they know you real well. Which, actually, I do know
>> most of the staff pretty well.)
>>
>> And I understand why. I mean, you can't have HQ promoting and
>> endorsing something that they really don't have any control over.
>> I'm sure you can picture advertisements at HU, at International,
>> and in the Harmonizer and then some scandal breaks out about
>> something. And then you have fall out from that. So... I understand.
>>
>> And, I understand why the society hasn't done it yet themselves.
>> That would take a concerted effort by someone to set up and
>> maintain. That takes time and money. So, I understand that also.
>> But, it just seems like this is one of the most basic services we
>> should provide.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

#474 From: rolland laver <rollielav@...>
Date: Tue May 12, 2009 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
rollielav
Send Email Send Email
 
I think that you have it exactly right. We can't depend on the Society for everything! They can't keep track of everything, and besides, I like the informal, relaxed feeling I get reading the posts in this group without the BHS hype. But, then again, that's just my  opinion.
 
Rolland Laver


From: Leaderman <leaderman@...>
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion

I have no problem with the Society putting links to other sites that are
related to what they are about. However, it seems to me that we are
looking to them to do for us what we should be doing for ourselves. It
really isn't their job to publicize all the different groups that are
starting up (and stopping). By posting occasional reminders on the
Harmonet itself, groups like this will get much more visibility than
through the Society.

I realize that some things are being pushed by them such as the Extreme
Quartetting, but that was only after it had taken off and was so
successful running on its own. Many festivals throughout the US are not
publicized by the Society unless the organizers of those festivals take
out the advertising (read spend the bucks) needed to publicize it.

Bottom line is that we are our own best publicity machine. Fire it up!

--
Sing-cerely & Humm-bly,

John Elving
VP Mus. & Perf.
Editor-in-Cheap, First Place 2008 Online Bulletin
Shrine of Democracy Chorus
2007 & 2008 BOTY
RMD CDD VP
PROBE VP- Bulletin Editors
Outstanding In Front - Certified Trainer
Certified Standing Ovation Trainer & Reviewer
Rapid City, SD
Email: leaderman@earthlink .net

Derek Hatley wrote:
> John and all,
>
> There are thousands of organizations that publish letters,
> statements, opinions etc. from outsiders. They cover their liability
> by simply adding a disclaimer that the statements are those of the
> contributors not of the organizations. BHS could do this. Why not?
>
> Derek
>
>
>> Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
>>
>> Posted by: "John" jg62bbshop@yahoo. com jg62bbshop
>> Mon May 11, 2009 9:18 am (PDT)
>>
>>
>>
>> First, let me state that I am huge supporter of HQ, the staff, and
>> all they do. I rarely, RARELY disparage them in any way.
>>
>> It would seem that they will not advertise someone's personal web
>> site or blog or whatever unless it's a sanctioned kind of thing.
>> (Or... unless they know you real well. Which, actually, I do know
>> most of the staff pretty well.)
>>
>> And I understand why. I mean, you can't have HQ promoting and
>> endorsing something that they really don't have any control over.
>> I'm sure you can picture advertisements at HU, at International,
>> and in the Harmonizer and then some scandal breaks out about
>> something. And then you have fall out from that. So... I understand.
>>
>> And, I understand why the society hasn't done it yet themselves.
>> That would take a concerted effort by someone to set up and
>> maintain. That takes time and money. So, I understand that also.
>> But, it just seems like this is one of the most basic services we
>> should provide.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>



#475 From: "ewheadley" <ewheadley@...>
Date: Wed May 13, 2009 2:29 pm
Subject: Still looking to join a quartet within NED area
ewheadley
Send Email Send Email
 
Gee, I'm not too popular now that I 'blasted' some of my BHS contacts by shaming
them in a private email regarding their non-support of these Bulletin-Board type
efforts to get new quartets together or to enable guys like me who are still
struggling to contact others who may need a Bass.   As you know from my recent
email responding to the quartetting website discussion during theis last week, I
have also been trying to get my NED officers to embed this capability within our
NED website; they have always 'pooh-pooh'ed the idea with a typical response
being:"nope, just keep 'rubbing elbows, Ed...your train is comingdown the
tracks".   Well, three years after I started looking, I'm still waiting for the
train......at this rate, I'll be dead before it arrives at the depot.  Therefore
once again let me say:

54 yr-old BASS from PORTLAND looking to join a competition-minded quartet to
participate in Seniors quartet events and DISTRICT COMPETITION......willing to
travel a couple hundred miles to rehearse.
Call me at 207-773-9766   OR  email:    ewheadley@...



Best Regards,
Ed 'Wishbone' Headley

#476 From: Bill Ward <kingschancellor@...>
Date: Wed May 13, 2009 2:35 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
kingschancellor
Send Email Send Email
 
This entire "group" thing I obviously and erroneously thought was to be a place to find others who were interested in being in a quartet, or locating a particular part-singer for a quartet, etc. Now it is becoming just another "harmonet" where quartet people can air their ideas and chat about all sorts of mailbox cluttering things that have nothing whatever to do with the original purpose. It is obvious that there are quartet people "out there" who need a place to share their thoughts about the "Society" and all sorts of other topics, and I applaud all those who have much to say about everything. That was not the original plan, and I can get all of those topics run over and over and over again, just as they have been from the beginning of these "harmonet-style" groups. How quickly we devolve into repetitious topics that have been hashed and re-hashed elsewhere. 
No quartet person worth his or her part should ever join in the ax-grinding agony of the poor disenfranchised and disillusioned members of the "Society" or the erstwhile "BQPA" for they never spoke up when they had the opportunity to do so. When they could have stopped what they are complaining about now, they didn't. Why, you ask? - Simple: They were too busy singing and doing what they did best to get involved is such political gobbledygook. And that is what this group should be doing, too. More singing and less yack! Singing is where it is at, and BHS or BQPA are merely tools we can choose to use or not, depending on whether or not they serve the greater purpose of singing.

Enuff of my yack. All the best to all of you, and I am out of here. 

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:43 PM, rolland laver <rollielav@...> wrote:


I think that you have it exactly right. We can't depend on the Society for everything! They can't keep track of everything, and besides, I like the informal, relaxed feeling I get reading the posts in this group without the BHS hype. But, then again, that's just my  opinion.
 
Rolland Laver


From: Leaderman <leaderman@...>
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [barbershopquartet] Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion

I have no problem with the Society putting links to other sites that are
related to what they are about. However, it seems to me that we are
looking to them to do for us what we should be doing for ourselves. It
really isn't their job to publicize all the different groups that are
starting up (and stopping). By posting occasional reminders on the
Harmonet itself, groups like this will get much more visibility than
through the Society.

I realize that some things are being pushed by them such as the Extreme
Quartetting, but that was only after it had taken off and was so
successful running on its own. Many festivals throughout the US are not
publicized by the Society unless the organizers of those festivals take
out the advertising (read spend the bucks) needed to publicize it.

Bottom line is that we are our own best publicity machine. Fire it up!

--
Sing-cerely & Humm-bly,

John Elving
VP Mus. & Perf.
Editor-in-Cheap, First Place 2008 Online Bulletin
Shrine of Democracy Chorus
2007 & 2008 BOTY
RMD CDD VP
PROBE VP- Bulletin Editors
Outstanding In Front - Certified Trainer
Certified Standing Ovation Trainer & Reviewer
Rapid City, SD
Email: leaderman@earthlink .net

Derek Hatley wrote:
> John and all,
>
> There are thousands of organizations that publish letters,
> statements, opinions etc. from outsiders. They cover their liability
> by simply adding a disclaimer that the statements are those of the
> contributors not of the organizations. BHS could do this. Why not?
>
> Derek
>
>
>> Re: Quartet Matchup sites/discussion
>>
>> Posted by: "John" jg62bbshop@yahoo. com jg62bbshop
>> Mon May 11, 2009 9:18 am (PDT)
>>
>>
>>
>> First, let me state that I am huge supporter of HQ, the staff, and
>> all they do. I rarely, RARELY disparage them in any way.
>>
>> It would seem that they will not advertise someone's personal web
>> site or blog or whatever unless it's a sanctioned kind of thing.
>> (Or... unless they know you real well. Which, actually, I do know
>> most of the staff pretty well.)
>>
>> And I understand why. I mean, you can't have HQ promoting and
>> endorsing something that they really don't have any control over.
>> I'm sure you can picture advertisements at HU, at International,
>> and in the Harmonizer and then some scandal breaks out about
>> something. And then you have fall out from that. So... I understand.
>>
>> And, I understand why the society hasn't done it yet themselves.
>> That would take a concerted effort by someone to set up and
>> maintain. That takes time and money. So, I understand that also.
>> But, it just seems like this is one of the most basic services we
>> should provide.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- ------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>





--
Thanks,

Bill Ward


#477 From: Alan Kousen <akousen@...>
Date: Wed May 13, 2009 3:00 pm
Subject: Re: Still looking to join a quartet within NED area
akousen
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Hi Ed and all
 
FYI
Don't forget to list yourself on the quartet registry site. It will provide you with contacts quickly. It is NOT a discussion group. I just recently had excellent success both here and with the registry. I wish you great success in your search. When I lived in VT 25 years ago, finding men for a quartet was almost impossible.
 
PS HI BILL... former Harmonizer.
 
Alan in NC

--- On Wed, 5/13/09, ewheadley <ewheadley@...> wrote:

From: ewheadley <ewheadley@...>
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Still looking to join a quartet within NED area
To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 10:29 AM

Gee, I'm not too popular now that I 'blasted' some of my BHS contacts by shaming them in a private email regarding their non-support of these Bulletin-Board type efforts to get new quartets together or to enable guys like me who are still struggling to contact others who may need a Bass. As you know from my recent email responding to the quartetting website discussion during theis last week, I have also been trying to get my NED officers to embed this capability within our NED website; they have always 'pooh-pooh'ed the idea with a typical response being:"nope, just keep 'rubbing elbows, Ed...your train is comingdown the tracks". Well, three years after I started looking, I'm still waiting for the train......at this rate, I'll be dead before it arrives at the depot. Therefore once again let me say:

54 yr-old BASS from PORTLAND looking to join a competition- minded quartet to participate in Seniors quartet events and DISTRICT COMPETITION. .....willing to travel a couple hundred miles to rehearse.
Call me at 207-773-9766 OR email: ewheadley@yahoo. com

Best Regards,
Ed 'Wishbone' Headley



#479 From: "jon.nicholas" <jon.o.nicholas@...>
Date: Sat May 23, 2009 9:27 pm
Subject: New Song
jon.nicholas
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Here's a link to the demo of "She'll Never Know":

http://www.nicholasarrangements.com/demos/ShellNeverKnow_Demo.mp3

Non-contestable / Medium difficulty.

Learning tracks available. Please contact me directly for more info, or visit my
web site: www.NicholasArrangements.com

Jon

#480 From: Casey Parker <caseypar@...>
Date: Tue Jun 2, 2009 12:13 am
Subject: Call For Papers - June 2009 GUBOQS Gazette
acwosha
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6/1/09 Final Call - There is room for your unique quartet
encouragement article. CP
5/1/09

Call For Papers - June 2009 GUBOQS Gazette

To: Harmonetters,SPEBnet,AHSOWnet,BQPA;
Cc:Mark Sheldon,BarbershopQuartet,FWD
Bcc: Distr LS, Authors

This is the call for papers for the June 2009 issue of the GUBOQS
Gazette*, an independent pro-quartet publication.  We publish success
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with three others at every meeting?  Email me a one page article
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Thank you,

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#481 From: "ewheadley" <ewheadley@...>
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 1:57 am
Subject: Still looking to join a competitive quartet
ewheadley
Send Email Send Email
 
I just joined a couple other new 'quartetting' sites looking for a quartet
within NED who needs a Bass......I've been beating my head against the wall for
nearly three years now trying to get into an existing quartet needing a
'replacement' Bass or to join a 'brand-new' quartet just forming up who need a
Bass....

I live in Portland, Maine and 'honest to goodness' I'd be willing to drive 75
miles to get to a rehearsal site......O.K. maybe even 100 miles (jeez, that's
Boston !)    I sight-read music well, have a good ear, stay on pitch(although I
don't have perfect pitch) once that cookie is chewed.  I work extremely hard to
know my music and come prepared to rehearsal......ask my Portland Downeasters
Chorus(K-015) Director(s).

I can't believe that I haven't received an inquiry yet(must be my Z.Z. Top
beard) !!   Dogs and kids love me.....women don't run away when they see me, I
bathe, wear deodorant, brush and floss my teeth regular-like(no bad
breath).....what more could a quartet ask for ?!?

I just turned 54 years old and at this point I guess I'm looking to team up in a
seniors quartet for competition unless some young guys need a 'PAPPY'......I'm
very easy to get along with.....I can provide some good references from 'known'
names within NED who have heard me sing and who know me personally.

Somebody call me or email me, just so I know I'm 'not alone' out here in
cyberspace pursuing the 'Impossible Dream'.

Thanks......

Ed Headley    (207) 773-9766     ewheadley@...

#482 From: Jack Sturm <supenau@...>
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 4:12 am
Subject: RE: Still looking to join a competitive quartet
tenorjack
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Yer not alone. It wasn't easy to find a quartet in LA (Lower Alabama) either. hang in there, the wait will be worth it.

Tennerjack


To: barbershopquartet@yahoogroups.com
From: ewheadley@...
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 01:57:46 +0000
Subject: [barbershopquartet] Still looking to join a competitive quartet




I just joined a couple other new 'quartetting' sites looking for a quartet within NED who needs a Bass......I've been beating my head against the wall for nearly three years now trying to get into an existing quartet needing a 'replacement' Bass or to join a 'brand-new' quartet just forming up who need a Bass....

I live in Portland, Maine and 'honest to goodness' I'd be willing to drive 75 miles to get to a rehearsal site......O.K. maybe even 100 miles (jeez, that's Boston !) I sight-read music well, have a good ear, stay on pitch(although I don't have perfect pitch) once that cookie is chewed. I work extremely hard to know my music and come prepared to rehearsal......ask my Portland Downeasters Chorus(K-015) Director(s).

I can't believe that I haven't received an inquiry yet(must be my Z.Z. Top beard) !! Dogs and kids love me.....women don't run away when they see me, I bathe, wear deodorant, brush and floss my teeth regular-like(no bad breath).....what more could a quartet ask for ?!?

I just turned 54 years old and at this point I guess I'm looking to team up in a seniors quartet for competition unless some young guys need a 'PAPPY'......I'm very easy to get along with.....I can provide some good references from 'known' names within NED who have heard me sing and who know me personally.

Somebody call me or email me, just so I know I'm 'not alone' out here in cyberspace pursuing the 'Impossible Dream'.

Thanks......

Ed Headley (207) 773-9766 ewheadley@yahoo.com



#483 From: Leaderman <leaderman@...>
Date: Thu Jun 4, 2009 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: Still looking to join a competitive quartet
jcelving
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I have to agree with Jack. Here in the nether lands of South Dakota, it
took me 8 years to find three others to sing with in a quartet. Then I
had to grow my own tenor. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do!

Sing-cerely & Humm-bly,

John Elving
VP Mus. & Perf.
Editor-in-Cheap, First Place 2008 Online Bulletin
Shrine of Democracy Chorus
2007 & 2008 BOTY
Bass - CONVERGENCE
RMD CDD VP
PROBE VP- Bulletin Editors
Outstanding In Front - Certified Trainer
Certified Standing Ovation Trainer & Reviewer
Rapid City, SD
Email: leaderman@...


Jack Sturm wrote:
>
>
> Yer not alone. It wasn't easy to find a quartet in LA (Lower Alabama)
> either. hang in there, the wait will be worth it.
>
> Tennerjack
>

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