Gargle with warm water, then use "Entertainer's Secret" spray


On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:04 PM, Scott Salladin <LKahuna@...> wrote:

>
>
> The best way to treat this type of problem is not to sing or say anything
> for a god period of time, as this is what has been told for me.
> I went to an ENT and the told me that I had GERD. no other problems thank
> goodness.
>
> When it started for me I kept loosing my voice when I was singing and even
> talking. As of right now I have been only able to sing 2 songs or about 5-6
> minutes before loosing my voice. Forcing me to miss my first conpetition in
> 26 years of barbershopping.
>
> Scott Salladin
> Poughkeepsie NY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marti Lovejoy
> To: Harmonet
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [bbshop] Re: scratched voice when singing
>
> John -
>
> I was finally diagnosed with GERD after several years of scratchy throat
> and
> I never had an heart burn type of symptoms... only the scratchy throat.
>
> Do see a gastro-enterologist or an ear-nose-throat specialist.
>
> Marti
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "MichaelB" <mike@... <mike%40computerdna.com>>
> To: <bbshop@yahoogroups.com <bbshop%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:47 PM
> Subject: [bbshop] Re: scratched voice when singing
>
> > John,
> >
> > The symptoms could be due to a hundred different things. GERD, Bacterial
> > infections, Viral infections, Irritants, and injuries...
> > Get your self to an ENT doctor and have him/her check you out. It could
> be
> > easily fixable but you'll never know if you don't have a doc look down
> the
> > pipes.
> >
> > Good Luck.
> >
> > Mike Bell
> >
> > --- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com <bbshop%40yahoogroups.com>, "John Sanders"
> <starmy22@...> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi my name is John Sanders.
> >> I have a question: everytime when i go to sing, my voice sounds
> >> scratchy.
> >> It also happens when i talk as well.
> >> How should i go about fixing this?
> >> I do apologize if i've already posted this already.
> >> I hope to hear from you soon.
> >> Sincerely,
> >> John Sanders
> >>
> >>
> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>



--
Alexander Boltenko
Russian Bass from St.Petersburg FL
russkibass@...
cell 269-501-SING
"Barbershop quartet singing is four guys tasting the holy essence of four
individual mechanisms coming into complete agreement."
(Meredith Willson)



--
Alexander Boltenko
Russian Bass from St.Petersburg FL
russkibass@...
cell 269-501-SING
"Barbershop quartet singing is four guys tasting the holy essence of four
individual mechanisms coming into complete agreement."
(Meredith Willson)


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The best way to treat this type of problem is not to sing or say anything for a
god period of time, as this is what has been told for me.
I went to an ENT and the told me that I had GERD. no other problems thank
goodness.

When it started for me I kept loosing my voice when I was singing and even
talking. As of right now I have been only able to sing 2 songs or about 5-6
minutes before loosing my voice. Forcing me to miss my first conpetition in 26
years of barbershopping.

Scott Salladin
Poughkeepsie NY

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Marti Lovejoy
   To: Harmonet
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 10:30 PM
   Subject: Re: [bbshop] Re: scratched voice when singing



   John -

   I was finally diagnosed with GERD after several years of scratchy throat and
   I never had an heart burn type of symptoms... only the scratchy throat.

   Do see a gastro-enterologist or an ear-nose-throat specialist.

   Marti

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "MichaelB" <mike@...>
   To: <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:47 PM
   Subject: [bbshop] Re: scratched voice when singing

   > John,
   >
   > The symptoms could be due to a hundred different things. GERD, Bacterial
   > infections, Viral infections, Irritants, and injuries...
   > Get your self to an ENT doctor and have him/her check you out. It could be
   > easily fixable but you'll never know if you don't have a doc look down the
   > pipes.
   >
   > Good Luck.
   >
   > Mike Bell
   >
   > --- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, "John Sanders" <starmy22@...> wrote:
   >>
   >> Hi my name is John Sanders.
   >> I have a question: everytime when i go to sing, my voice sounds
   >> scratchy.
   >> It also happens when i talk as well.
   >> How should i go about fixing this?
   >> I do apologize if i've already posted this already.
   >> I hope to hear from you soon.
   >> Sincerely,
   >> John Sanders
   >>
   >>
   >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
   >>
   >
   >
   >
   >
   > ------------------------------------
   >
   > Yahoo! Groups Links
   >
   >
   >





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

John -

I was finally diagnosed with GERD after several years of scratchy throat and
I never had an heart burn type of symptoms... only the scratchy throat.

Do see a gastro-enterologist or an ear-nose-throat specialist.

Marti

----- Original Message -----
From: "MichaelB" <mike@...>
To: <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 8:47 PM
Subject: [bbshop] Re: scratched voice when singing


> John,
>
> The symptoms could be due to a hundred different things. GERD, Bacterial
> infections, Viral infections, Irritants, and injuries...
> Get your self to an ENT doctor and have him/her check you out. It could be
> easily fixable but you'll never know if you don't have a doc look down the
> pipes.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Mike Bell
>
> --- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, "John Sanders" <starmy22@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi my name is John Sanders.
>> I have  a question:  everytime when i go to sing, my voice sounds
>> scratchy.
>> It also happens when i talk as well.
>> How should i go about fixing this?
>> I do apologize if i've already posted this already.
>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>> Sincerely,
>> John Sanders
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Could be that they are just disposing old inventory???

Yeah! And the sooner the better! <G>


Dick Johnson
Great Falls, MT









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First, John, before anything.  Are you drinking enough water?  Are you
hydrating the vocal instrument?

Different recommendations, but I drink a LOT of water.

MichaelB wrote:
>
>
> John,
>
> The symptoms could be due to a hundred different things. GERD,
> Bacterial infections, Viral infections, Irritants, and injuries...
> Get your self to an ENT doctor and have him/her check you out. It
> could be easily fixable but you'll never know if you don't have a doc
> look down the pipes.
>
> Good Luck.
>
> Mike Bell
>
> --- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com <mailto:bbshop%40yahoogroups.com>, "John
> Sanders" <starmy22@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi my name is John Sanders.
> > I have a question: everytime when i go to sing, my voice sounds
> scratchy.
> > It also happens when i talk as well.
> > How should i go about fixing this?
> > I do apologize if i've already posted this already.
> > I hope to hear from you soon.
> > Sincerely,
> > John Sanders
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>

--
Derick Sturke My Weblog: http://derick-theyoungcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/
Barbershop Weblog: http://ramblenotes.blogspot.com/


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

John,

The symptoms could be due to a hundred different things. GERD, Bacterial
infections, Viral infections, Irritants, and injuries...
Get your self to an ENT doctor and have him/her check you out. It could be
easily fixable but you'll never know if you don't have a doc look down the
pipes.

Good Luck.

Mike Bell

--- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, "John Sanders" <starmy22@...> wrote:
>
> Hi my name is John Sanders.
> I have  a question:  everytime when i go to sing, my voice sounds scratchy.
> It also happens when i talk as well.
> How should i go about fixing this?
> I do apologize if i've already posted this already.
> I hope to hear from you soon.
> Sincerely,
> John Sanders
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi my name is John Sanders.
I have  a question:  everytime when i go to sing, my voice sounds scratchy.
It also happens when i talk as well.
How should i go about fixing this?
I do apologize if i've already posted this already.
I hope to hear from you soon.
Sincerely,
John Sanders


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Could be that they are just disposing old inventory???


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I personally prefer the new logo. The old one makes no sense to me. Given the
choice I'll always buy the new one.
That being said, I will gladly sing with any three guys whether they personally
sport the new logo, the old logo, or no logo at all. Let's ring some chords!

Eric A. Grimes
Lead - Pathfinder Chorus (preparing for our 1st International!)
Lead - 7th Avenue Revue
Sent on the Now NetworkT from my Sprintฎ BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Noble IV <popziv@...>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 16:55:53
To: <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [bbshop] Re: Old Logo at Harmony Marketplace

 



Just: H'rah! I bought the last few remaining pages of logo stickers a few
  years ago, and use them to replace the new one wherever/whenever I can. I'm
  thinking of buying something from the catalog, like that polo shirt, just to
  make the point. I agree: I would never stop singing on account of the new
  logo, but having had it foisted on us by fiat was pretty distasteful.

  Barily yours,

  Tom Noble
  50-year member
  Member - AHSOW
  Logo curmudgeon

  popziv@... <mailto:popziv%40tsnobleiv.us>

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Anyone have a source for the   MUSIC   for "Pretend you don't love her, my
heart"?

I have the lyrics


Ed Hinkley

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Many thanks to all who offered to help me get my "barbershop fix" last week
in Toronto.



A special thanks to the guys at the Toronto Northern Lights and the Upper
Canada Chordsmen who both welcomed me to their rehearsals. I had a great
time singing with both groups and in more than a few pick up quartets each
evening. Also, thank you to Jim O'Neil (VP Music - ONT) who made the trip to
Newmarket to meet and sing with me.



For those of you who travel regularly, I heartily recommend visiting the
local chapter instead of the hotel bar.lots of fun!!!



And for the chapters in western Canada..I'll be seeing you over the next 3-4
months!!!



In Harmony





Matthew







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Secret methods revealed...

http://harmocast.com/ode-to-pythagoras-money-math-music-barbershop

along with more Alexandria Harmonizers Holiday show insiders, the link between
math & music and a poorly sung tag.

Hi all - this is my 1st posting so please be gentle with me if I make any
mistakes!

My daughter is getting married in Sept and has asked my quartet to sing Mirror,
Mirror (David Gates) for her - Oh Lord only knows how I'll manage that with the
emotions welling up, but do it I will!  Does anyone know of an arrangement for
this lovely song?  I have already checked with all the places I know of so
thought I'd throw it open to you knowledgable folk!

Here's hoping for a positive outcome...many thanks.

Peace,

Sally Tomkins
Bass, Happy Hour UK Quartet
2009 3rd Place Quartet, Region 31

THE BOBS
Concert Notification
EAST COAST HOLIDAY TOUR 2009
"Rewarding ear candy of the best kind" - www.indie-music.com
<http://www.indie-music.com/>

On Richard!  On Matthew!  On Amy!  On Dan!   THE BOBS' 2009 HOLIDAY
SHOW features selections from their Rounder Records CD, Too Many
Santas as well as new, demented holiday chestnuts, covers of tunes
from The Beatles to Vince Guaraldi, and a healthy sampling of Get Your
Monkey Off My Dog  and their upcoming NEW all-covers album.


PRESS ABOUT THE BOBS' HOLIDAY SHOW:


SEATTLE TIMES:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/musicnightlife/2008516997_zmus1...
<http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/musicnightlife/2008516997_zmus15b\
obs.html>


METROLAND (Albany, NY): http://www.acappellanews.com/archive/001731.html
<http://www.acappellanews.com/archive/001731.html>


DATES:


WED 12/9 - SARATOGA SPRINGS, NY


CAFFE LENA
47 Phila Street
Tix/info: 518-583-0022
Named Best Small Venue in America by the International Folk Alliance!
www.caffelena.com <http://www.caffelena.com/>


THU 12/10 - NORTHAMPTON, MA


IRON HORSE MUSIC HALL
20 Center Street
Tix/Info 1-800-THE-TICK
www.iheg.com <http://www.iheg.com/>


FRI 12/11 - NATICK, MA


photo by Hali McGrath (San Francisco, 2006)
THE CENTER FOR ARTS NATICK
14 Summer Street
Tix/info: 508-647-0097
http://www.natickarts.org/tcan_artistdetail.php?artist_id=1368&event_...
<http://www.natickarts.org/tcan_artistdetail.php?artist_id=1368&event_id\
=1368>


SAT 12/12 - WESTFIELD, NJ


COFFEE WITH CONSCIENCE CONCERTS
1st United Methodist Church
1 East Broad Street
Tix/info: 908-412-9105
http://www.coffeewithconscience.com/
<http://www.coffeewithconscience.com/>
This show is a benefit for the Keith Knost Special Needs Trust


TUE 12/15 - NEW YORK, NY


IRIDIUM JAZZ CLUB
TWO SHOWS - 8PM AND 10PM
1590 Broadway (@51st)
Tix/info: 212-582-2121
www.iridiumjazzclub.com <http://www.iridiumjazzclub.com/>


THU 12/17 - TRENTON, NJ


WAR MEMORIAL
ON PATRIOTS' STAGE SERIES
Tix/info: 609 984-8400
http://www.onpatriotsstage.com/current.html
<http://www.onpatriotsstage.com/current.html>


FRI 12/18 - PARAMUS, NJ


BERGEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE
ANNA MARIA CICCONE THEATER
400 Paramus Blvd.
Tix/info: 201-447-7428
http://tickets.bergen.edu/default.asp?SearchMonth=12%2F28%2F2009&mont...
<http://tickets.bergen.edu/default.asp?SearchMonth=12%2F28%2F2009&months\
ubmit=x&MV=12%2F28%2F2009>


SAT 12/19 - PAWLING, NY

TOWNE CRIER
130 Route 22
Tix/info: 845-855-1300
www.townecrier.com <http://www.townecrier.com/>


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Thanks Marti for asking.

Nearby churches would be first... but could have definitely been encouraged by
what they read in the neighborhood papers, on the Internet or heard on the
radio, or "word of mouth"..

Bottom line... all are important and necessary.

George Davidson
H) sagez@...

###############
From: Marti Lovejoy <lovejoymar@...>
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 11:07 am

Of particular interest would be.... which of the modes of advertising
brought in the most guests?

This program is a definite winner when it's properly executed, as Denver
Mile High has apparently done.  Congratulations!

###############
From: <sagez@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:09 AM

This past Thursday night in Denver Colorado at the Denver Mile High
Chapter/Sound of the Rockies Chorus meeting, we presented certificates to
THIRTY-THREE (33) potential new barbershop singers!!   WOW!

####

Borrowing from a tried and true Sweet Adeline (SAI) program (Ready, Set,
Grow), our chapter embarked on this program six weeks ago, and throughout
the period saw FORTY-SIX (46) guests.  WOW!

How does it work?   Actually it is much easier than you might imagine.

SAI designed this program in the early 1990's and printed a wonderful
resource guide.  You may find a copy at a nearby Sweet Adeline chapter or by
contacting their headquarters office (www.sweetadelineintl.org)..  The then
BHS Denver Tech Chapter tired it successfully in the 1990's, and now it was
time to resurrect it again.

It begins with a HOOK...  How do you get singers to walk through the door?.
The genius idea is to offer "FREE Voice Lessons"....   After all, who can
turn down something FREE.

####

Now begins the organizing...

1)  First, you need an energetic, self-starter person, good communicator,
good organizer, great smile, and a warm handshake.   We have just the fellow
in Keith Kauffman.

2)  With Keith's business plan (mostly culled from the Ready, Set, Grow
manual), the chapter BOD authorized the expenditure of up to $2500 for this
project.  The $$ amount will vary from location to location.

3)  The plan is quite simple...  Offer six (6) weeks of FREE voice lessons
beginning on xxx date.

####

Now begins the promotion...

1)  Our chapter website was modified to give a home page "splash" to our
"Ready, Set, Sing" program, and a separate page designed to provide more
details - dates, times, location, lesson plans...  along with an online form
for the interested party to sign up and provide contact information.

2)  The bulk of the money was spent with targeted newsprint ad purchases
(3x3 display ad).  Instead of choosing the BIG daily local newspapers, we
sought out the smaller community newspapers in the suburban areas around and
near our rehearsal hall.

3)  But it didn't stop there...  Through a thorough search of the Internet,
we were able to develop a list of all the churches in a close proximity
(15-20 mile radius) of our rehearsal hall.   We created a list of 10-15
churches each, and split them up amongst chapter members to contact.  In
most cases, the church secretary was contacted and was asked if we could
place an ad (write up) in the church bulletin...  We told her about our
non-profit group and that we are simply looking for a few men who love to
sing!.  All throughout, our guys are talking up how great a hobby singing
is.   If the church says YES, we send along a copy of the same ad used in
the newspapers, and/or a simple write up of the details for the event.

4)  But it didn't stop there...  we created a Facebook page.   We advertised
on Craig's list.. We spoke about it on our favorite radio stations (KEZW
1430AM).. we sent PSA's to all local media and other appropriate Internet
outlets we could find.

5)  As interested folks signed up, we sent emails, excited about their
participation, and hoping to see them on the fist night of the event.  In
our case, October 15.

####
.
Now begins the organization...

1)  Keith prepared individual notebooks for each guest -- including a
WELCOME LETTER, and all the current Christmas music the Sound of the Rockies
was singing in preparation for our Christmas Show - December 12.    Hmmmmm,
are you seeing an ulterior motive??  We also had plenty extra for lots of
walk ups on the first night.   We also had new folks arrive each week
thereafter, and were ready with more blank name badges and guest notebooks..

2)  Large name badges were prepared with BRIGHT red lanyards...

3)  A spreadsheet - signup sheet (in large format) was prepared to confirm
important information...  name, email, phone, where did you hear about us?

4)  The chapter members were prepared.   We told them to be "especially"
cordial at the "kick off" event...Even say "Hi" and shake hands.  :-)..  We
reminded them of the responsibilities of a "riser buddy".

5)  We asked our ladies auxiliary (SOR Connection) to prepare some extra
special cookies for our break at mid meeting.

6)  And we asked our two teachers to prepare lesson plans

Week 1 (10/15) โ€“ Fundamentals of Breath Control and Posture
Week 2 (10/22) โ€“ Fundamentals of Resonance and Use of the Soft Palate โ€“ I
Week 3 (10/29) โ€“ Fundamentals of Resonance and Use of the Soft Palate - II
Week 4 (11/05) โ€“ Fundamentals of Vowels and Diphthongs
Week 5 (11/12) โ€“ Fundamentals of Dynamics and Range Expansion
Week 6 (11/19) โ€“ Fundamentals of the Barbershop Style

We are blessed in our chapter to have two amazing vocal music teachers -
Darin Drown (our Musical Director), and Matt Swann (an Asst Director)..
Both these gents are great communicators and teachers, and the success of
the program is largely the result of their preparation for these weekly
sessions.   If you don't have such a person(s) in your midst, I would
recommend you go out in your community and find a local educator who would
be willing to assist (or be paid to assist).   Maybe check a nearby BHS or
SAI or Harmony Inc chapter too!

####

Now begins the execution....

1)  Altho' the first night was filled with excitement and hoopla, our weekly
plan is basically the same..  Rehearsal starts at 7:00p sharp with warm
ups.....   All Ready, Set, Sing (RSS) guests stand on the risers next to
their riser buddy.

2)  At 7:20 the RSS folks come down front and are entertained with a
repertoire song from the chorus.  One night we had our new Rocky Mountain
District Champs (Boiling Point) come and sing a couple of songs.

3)  Then the RSS folks are escorted to another room for their 45+ min lesson
with either Darin or Matt.  These sessions are part lecture demonstration,
and part group or individual vocalizing.  But energizing and fun.  The more
involvement of the individual singer the better!!

4)  At the conclusion of the lesson, RSS guests are presented with a one
page note thanking them for their participation that week,and giving them a
little more orientation to our chapter, chorus and to our hobby...  a little
piece at a time...   We also provided RSS guests with learning track CDs of
all our Christmas Music and 2010 Spring Show repertoire.

5)  At 8:30-ish, we reconvene everyone... The RSS guests are introduced, and
we take a 15 min cookie break.   Of course, during the break there is
spontaneous quartet singing, and tag singing.

6)  The last half of the meeting (8:45 to 10:00) is totally optional for the
RSS guests.  Some leave, and MOST stay, to continue in the remaining part of
our chorus rehearsal for the upcoming Christmas Show.   We are blessed to
have a lot of chapter quartets, all of whom are asked to audition for a few
slots on the Christmas Show.  Therefore each week after the break we would
have a couple of quartet auditions.   A nice way to show of quarteting, for
certain!

7)  I might add a special note that has been very successful.   We did NOT
tell RSS guests which part to sing.   We let them move around the chorus
"experimenting" ...  This proved very successful, as the quests would try to
match their voice and capabilities to a part.  Eventually (Week 4), Darin
provided more guidance about which voice type and range was best suited for
which barbershop harmony voice part.

8)  Between weeks RSS folks received another encouraging email from Keith
along with a phone call from their riser buddy.

####

What next?    Well we have one more carrot at the end of that stick!!

Now that the RSS program has ended, all RSS folks have been invited to sing
with the chorus (for up to 5-6 songs) on our Christmas Show (Dec 12)....
There are two remaining rehearsasl.   No specific audition is required... No
"official" chapter membership is required...  Just let us know that you want
to sing, and think you are ready.   In fact, we'll move RSS guests on and
off the ends of the risers during the show if they only are confident with
one or two songs...   And, the expectation is they all return for the last
song - "Silent Night"..

We'll worry about chapter auditions and membership applications after the
first of the year.

###

Do you think it works?   We know it does!!!

If you have addition questions, Keith Kauffman will be happy to oblige:
(kjkauffman@...)

Good hunting,

George Davidson,
VP, Music and Performance
Denver Mile High Chapter
H) sagez@...


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How much more effective would a purchase (preferably a large one) be in
conveying your views to the Society?

Marti Lovejoy
Proud Owner of SING
SING members have donated over $50,000 to YSF since 2002
Life Member, Texas, USA - 37 years so far
http: //groups.yahoo . com/group/SweetAdelinesScores
lovejoymar @ sbcglobal.net <--remove spaces from link and edress
What you do makes a difference, and you have to decide WHAT KIND of
difference you want to make - Jane Goodall

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frederick W. "Derick" Sturke" <fwsturke@...>
To: "Harmonet" <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 7:42 PM
Subject: [bbshop] Old Logo at Harmony Marketplace


>I just received the Fall 2009 Harmony Marketplace catalog, and noticed
> an interesting thing.  On perhaps a half a dozen items, the
> heritage/lyre logo has been used.
>
> For the longest time the Society seemed to almost militantly divorce
> itself from the classic icon, amid wailing and gnashing of teeth by much
> of the membership.
>
> Has the Society chosen to acknowledge those who want to hold on to the
> familiar image of the Society?  Is this a hint -- in the post Wilson era
> -- that perhaps Kenosha/Nashville might not have done the greatest job
> of the switchover?
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Derick Sturke
> Golden Valley Chorus
> Loves the old logo, but the new logo would never stop him from singing.
> --
> Derick Sturke My Weblog: http://derick-theyoungcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/
> Barbershop Weblog: http://ramblenotes.blogspot.com/
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Of particular interest would be.... which of the modes of advertising
brought in the most guests?

This program is a definite winner when it's properly executed, as Denver
Mile High has apparently done.  Congratulations!

Marti Lovejoy
Proud Owner of SING
SING members have donated over $50,000 to YSF since 2002
Life Member, Texas, USA - 37 years so far
http: //groups.yahoo . com/group/SweetAdelinesScores
lovejoymar @ sbcglobal.net <--remove spaces from link and edress
What you do makes a difference, and you have to decide WHAT KIND of
difference you want to make - Jane Goodall

----- Original Message -----
From: <sagez@...>
To: <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 11:09 AM
Subject: [bbshop] READY, SET, SING --> It works!!



This past Thursday night in Denver Colorado at the Denver Mile High
Chapter/Sound of the Rockies Chorus meeting, we presented certificates to
THIRTY-THREE (33) potential new barbershop singers!!   WOW!

####

Borrowing from a tried and true Sweet Adeline (SAI) program (Ready, Set,
Grow), our chapter embarked on this program six weeks ago, and throughout
the period saw FORTY-SIX (46) guests.  WOW!

How does it work?   Actually it is much easier than you might imagine.

SAI designed this program in the early 1990's and printed a wonderful
resource guide.  You may find a copy at a nearby Sweet Adeline chapter or by
contacting their headquarters office (www.sweetadelineintl.org)..  The then
BHS Denver Tech Chapter tired it successfully in the 1990's, and now it was
time to resurrect it again.

It begins with a HOOK...  How do you get singers to walk through the door?.
The genius idea is to offer "FREE Voice Lessons"....   After all, who can
turn down something FREE.

####

Now begins the organizing...

1)  First, you need an energetic, self-starter person, good communicator,
good organizer, great smile, and a warm handshake.   We have just the fellow
in Keith Kauffman.

2)  With Keith's business plan (mostly culled from the Ready, Set, Grow
manual), the chapter BOD authorized the expenditure of up to $2500 for this
project.  The $$ amount will vary from location to location.

3)  The plan is quite simple...  Offer six (6) weeks of FREE voice lessons
beginning on xxx date.

####

Now begins the promotion...

1)  Our chapter website was modified to give a home page "splash" to our
"Ready, Set, Sing" program, and a separate page designed to provide more
details - dates, times, location, lesson plans...  along with an online form
for the interested party to sign up and provide contact information.

2)  The bulk of the money was spent with targeted newsprint ad purchases
(3x3 display ad).  Instead of choosing the BIG daily local newspapers, we
sought out the smaller community newspapers in the suburban areas around and
near our rehearsal hall.

3)  But it didn't stop there...  Through a thorough search of the Internet,
we were able to develop a list of all the churches in a close proximity
(15-20 mile radius) of our rehearsal hall.   We created a list of 10-15
churches each, and split them up amongst chapter members to contact.  In
most cases, the church secretary was contacted and was asked if we could
place an ad (write up) in the church bulletin...  We told her about our
non-profit group and that we are simply looking for a few men who love to
sing!.  All throughout, our guys are talking up how great a hobby singing
is.   If the church says YES, we send along a copy of the same ad used in
the newspapers, and/or a simple write up of the details for the event.

4)  But it didn't stop there...  we created a Facebook page.   We advertised
on Craig's list.. We spoke about it on our favorite radio stations (KEZW
1430AM).. we sent PSA's to all local media and other appropriate Internet
outlets we could find.

5)  As interested folks signed up, we sent emails, excited about their
participation, and hoping to see them on the fist night of the event.  In
our case, October 15.

####
.
Now begins the organization...

1)  Keith prepared individual notebooks for each guest -- including a
WELCOME LETTER, and all the current Christmas music the Sound of the Rockies
was singing in preparation for our Christmas Show - December 12.    Hmmmmm,
are you seeing an ulterior motive??  We also had plenty extra for lots of
walk ups on the first night.   We also had new folks arrive each week
thereafter, and were ready with more blank name badges and guest notebooks..

2)  Large name badges were prepared with BRIGHT red lanyards...

3)  A spreadsheet - signup sheet (in large format) was prepared to confirm
important information...  name, email, phone, where did you hear about us?

4)  The chapter members were prepared.   We told them to be "especially"
cordial at the "kick off" event...Even say "Hi" and shake hands.  :-)..  We
reminded them of the responsibilities of a "riser buddy".

5)  We asked our ladies auxiliary (SOR Connection) to prepare some extra
special cookies for our break at mid meeting.

6)  And we asked our two teachers to prepare lesson plans

Week 1 (10/15) โ€“ Fundamentals of Breath Control and Posture
Week 2 (10/22) โ€“ Fundamentals of Resonance and Use of the Soft Palate โ€“ I
Week 3 (10/29) โ€“ Fundamentals of Resonance and Use of the Soft Palate - II
Week 4 (11/05) โ€“ Fundamentals of Vowels and Diphthongs
Week 5 (11/12) โ€“ Fundamentals of Dynamics and Range Expansion
Week 6 (11/19) โ€“ Fundamentals of the Barbershop Style

We are blessed in our chapter to have two amazing vocal music teachers -
Darin Drown (our Musical Director), and Matt Swann (an Asst Director)..
Both these gents are great communicators and teachers, and the success of
the program is largely the result of their preparation for these weekly
sessions.   If you don't have such a person(s) in your midst, I would
recommend you go out in your community and find a local educator who would
be willing to assist (or be paid to assist).   Maybe check a nearby BHS or
SAI or Harmony Inc chapter too!

####

Now begins the execution....

1)  Altho' the first night was filled with excitement and hoopla, our weekly
plan is basically the same..  Rehearsal starts at 7:00p sharp with warm
ups.....   All Ready, Set, Sing (RSS) guests stand on the risers next to
their riser buddy.

2)  At 7:20 the RSS folks come down front and are entertained with a
repertoire song from the chorus.  One night we had our new Rocky Mountain
District Champs (Boiling Point) come and sing a couple of songs.

3)  Then the RSS folks are escorted to another room for their 45+ min lesson
with either Darin or Matt.  These sessions are part lecture demonstration,
and part group or individual vocalizing.  But energizing and fun.  The more
involvement of the individual singer the better!!

4)  At the conclusion of the lesson, RSS guests are presented with a one
page note thanking them for their participation that week,and giving them a
little more orientation to our chapter, chorus and to our hobby...  a little
piece at a time...   We also provided RSS guests with learning track CDs of
all our Christmas Music and 2010 Spring Show repertoire.

5)  At 8:30-ish, we reconvene everyone... The RSS guests are introduced, and
we take a 15 min cookie break.   Of course, during the break there is
spontaneous quartet singing, and tag singing.

6)  The last half of the meeting (8:45 to 10:00) is totally optional for the
RSS guests.  Some leave, and MOST stay, to continue in the remaining part of
our chorus rehearsal for the upcoming Christmas Show.   We are blessed to
have a lot of chapter quartets, all of whom are asked to audition for a few
slots on the Christmas Show.  Therefore each week after the break we would
have a couple of quartet auditions.   A nice way to show of quarteting, for
certain!

7)  I might add a special note that has been very successful.   We did NOT
tell RSS guests which part to sing.   We let them move around the chorus
"experimenting" ...  This proved very successful, as the quests would try to
match their voice and capabilities to a part.  Eventually (Week 4), Darin
provided more guidance about which voice type and range was best suited for
which barbershop harmony voice part.

8)  Between weeks RSS folks received another encouraging email from Keith
along with a phone call from their riser buddy.

####

What next?    Well we have one more carrot at the end of that stick!!

Now that the RSS program has ended, all RSS folks have been invited to sing
with the chorus (for up to 5-6 songs) on our Christmas Show (Dec 12)....
There are two remaining rehearsasl.   No specific audition is required... No
"official" chapter membership is required...  Just let us know that you want
to sing, and think you are ready.   In fact, we'll move RSS guests on and
off the ends of the risers during the show if they only are confident with
one or two songs...   And, the expectation is they all return for the last
song - "Silent Night"..

We'll worry about chapter auditions and membership applications after the
first of the year.

###

Do you think it works?   We know it does!!!

If you have addition questions, Keith Kauffman will be happy to oblige:
(kjkauffman@...)

Good hunting,

George Davidson,
VP, Music and Performance
Denver Mile High Chapter
H) sagez@...


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This past Thursday night in Denver Colorado at the Denver Mile High
Chapter/Sound of the Rockies Chorus meeting, we presented certificates to
THIRTY-THREE (33) potential new barbershop singers!!   WOW!

####

Borrowing from a tried and true Sweet Adeline (SAI) program (Ready, Set, Grow),
our chapter embarked on this program six weeks ago, and throughout the period
saw FORTY-SIX (46) guests.  WOW!

How does it work?   Actually it is much easier than you might imagine.

SAI designed this program in the early 1990's and printed a wonderful resource
guide.  You may find a copy at a nearby Sweet Adeline chapter or by contacting
their headquarters office (www.sweetadelineintl.org)..  The then BHS Denver Tech
Chapter tired it successfully in the 1990's, and now it was time to resurrect it
again.

It begins with a HOOK...  How do you get singers to walk through the door?.  
The genius idea is to offer "FREE Voice Lessons"....   After all, who can turn
down something FREE.

####

Now begins the organizing...

1)  First, you need an energetic, self-starter person, good communicator, good
organizer, great smile, and a warm handshake.   We have just the fellow in Keith
Kauffman.

2)  With Keith's business plan (mostly culled from the Ready, Set, Grow manual),
the chapter BOD authorized the expenditure of up to $2500 for this project.  The
$$ amount will vary from location to location.

3)  The plan is quite simple...  Offer six (6) weeks of FREE voice lessons
beginning on xxx date.

####

Now begins the promotion...

1)  Our chapter website was modified to give a home page "splash" to our "Ready,
Set, Sing" program, and a separate page designed to provide more details -
dates, times, location, lesson plans...  along with an online form for the
interested party to sign up and provide contact information.

2)  The bulk of the money was spent with targeted newsprint ad purchases (3x3
display ad).  Instead of choosing the BIG daily local newspapers, we sought out
the smaller community newspapers in the suburban areas around and near our
rehearsal hall.

3)  But it didn't stop there...  Through a thorough search of the Internet, we
were able to develop a list of all the churches in a close proximity (15-20 mile
radius) of our rehearsal hall.   We created a list of 10-15 churches each, and
split them up amongst chapter members to contact.  In most cases, the church
secretary was contacted and was asked if we could place an ad (write up) in the
church bulletin...  We told her about our non-profit group and that we are
simply looking for a few men who love to sing!.  All throughout, our guys are
talking up how great a hobby singing is.   If the church says YES, we send along
a copy of the same ad used in the newspapers, and/or a simple write up of the
details for the event.

4)  But it didn't stop there...  we created a Facebook page.   We advertised on
Craig's list.. We spoke about it on our favorite radio stations (KEZW 1430AM)..
we sent PSA's to all local media and other appropriate Internet outlets we could
find.

5)  As interested folks signed up, we sent emails, excited about their
participation, and hoping to see them on the fist night of the event.  In our
case, October 15.

####
.
Now begins the organization...

1)  Keith prepared individual notebooks for each guest -- including a WELCOME
LETTER, and all the current Christmas music the Sound of the Rockies was singing
in preparation for our Christmas Show - December 12.    Hmmmmm, are you seeing
an ulterior motive??  We also had plenty extra for lots of walk ups on the first
night.   We also had new folks arrive each week thereafter, and were ready with
more blank name badges and guest notebooks..

2)  Large name badges were prepared with BRIGHT red lanyards...

3)  A spreadsheet - signup sheet (in large format) was prepared to confirm
important information...  name, email, phone, where did you hear about us?

4)  The chapter members were prepared.   We told them to be "especially" cordial
at the "kick off" event...Even say "Hi" and shake hands.  :-)..  We reminded
them of the responsibilities of a "riser buddy".

5)  We asked our ladies auxiliary (SOR Connection) to prepare some extra special
cookies for our break at mid meeting.

6)  And we asked our two teachers to prepare lesson plans

Week 1 (10/15) โ€“ Fundamentals of Breath Control and Posture
Week 2 (10/22) โ€“ Fundamentals of Resonance and Use of the Soft Palate โ€“ I
Week 3 (10/29) โ€“ Fundamentals of Resonance and Use of the Soft Palate - II
Week 4 (11/05) โ€“ Fundamentals of Vowels and Diphthongs
Week 5 (11/12) โ€“ Fundamentals of Dynamics and Range Expansion
Week 6 (11/19) โ€“ Fundamentals of the Barbershop Style

We are blessed in our chapter to have two amazing vocal music teachers - Darin
Drown (our Musical Director), and Matt Swann (an Asst Director)..   Both these
gents are great communicators and teachers, and the success of the program is
largely the result of their preparation for these weekly sessions.   If you
don't have such a person(s) in your midst, I would recommend you go out in your
community and find a local educator who would be willing to assist (or be paid
to assist).   Maybe check a nearby BHS or SAI or Harmony Inc chapter too!

####

Now begins the execution....

1)  Altho' the first night was filled with excitement and hoopla, our weekly
plan is basically the same..  Rehearsal starts at 7:00p sharp with warm ups.....
All Ready, Set, Sing (RSS) guests stand on the risers next to their riser buddy.

2)  At 7:20 the RSS folks come down front and are entertained with a repertoire
song from the chorus.  One night we had our new Rocky Mountain District Champs
(Boiling Point) come and sing a couple of songs.

3)  Then the RSS folks are escorted to another room for their 45+ min lesson
with either Darin or Matt.  These sessions are part lecture demonstration, and
part group or individual vocalizing.  But energizing and fun.  The more
involvement of the individual singer the better!!

4)  At the conclusion of the lesson, RSS guests are presented with a one page
note thanking them for their participation that week,and giving them a little
more orientation to our chapter, chorus and to our hobby...  a little piece at a
time...   We also provided RSS guests with learning track CDs of all our
Christmas Music and 2010 Spring Show repertoire.

5)  At 8:30-ish, we reconvene everyone... The RSS guests are introduced, and we
take a 15 min cookie break.   Of course, during the break there is spontaneous
quartet singing, and tag singing.

6)  The last half of the meeting (8:45 to 10:00) is totally optional for the RSS
guests.  Some leave, and MOST stay, to continue in the remaining part of our
chorus rehearsal for the upcoming Christmas Show.   We are blessed to have a lot
of chapter quartets, all of whom are asked to audition for a few slots on the
Christmas Show.  Therefore each week after the break we would have a couple of
quartet auditions.   A nice way to show of quarteting, for certain!

7)  I might add a special note that has been very successful.   We did NOT tell
RSS guests which part to sing.   We let them move around the chorus
"experimenting" ...  This proved very successful, as the quests would try to
match their voice and capabilities to a part.  Eventually (Week 4), Darin
provided more guidance about which voice type and range was best suited for
which barbershop harmony voice part.

8)  Between weeks RSS folks received another encouraging email from Keith along
with a phone call from their riser buddy.

####

What next?    Well we have one more carrot at the end of that stick!!

Now that the RSS program has ended, all RSS folks have been invited to sing with
the chorus (for up to 5-6 songs) on our Christmas Show (Dec 12).... There are
two remaining rehearsasl.   No specific audition is required... No "official"
chapter membership is required...  Just let us know that you want to sing, and
think you are ready.   In fact, we'll move RSS guests on and off the ends of the
risers during the show if they only are confident with one or two songs...  
And, the expectation is they all return for the last song - "Silent Night"..

We'll worry about chapter auditions and membership applications after the first
of the year.

###

Do you think it works?   We know it does!!!

If you have addition questions, Keith Kauffman will be happy to oblige: 
(kjkauffman@...)

Good hunting,

George Davidson,
VP, Music and Performance
Denver Mile High Chapter
H) sagez@...


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Just: H'rah!  I bought the last few remaining pages of logo stickers a few
years ago, and use them to replace the new one wherever/whenever I can.  I'm
thinking of buying something from the catalog, like that polo shirt, just to
make the point.  I agree: I would never stop singing on account of the new
logo, but having had it foisted on us by fiat was pretty distasteful.

Barily yours,

Tom Noble
50-year member
Member - AHSOW
Logo curmudgeon

popziv@...



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Derick,

Here are my thoughts:

If the members want to buy things adorned with the lyre logo, we will
sell them.  No need to dig up old wounds, or name old names.  Let's
see how they sell, and thank you for noticing.

Ed
E. D. Watson
Executive Director/CEO
Barbershop Harmony Society

Walter -

You'll find it in the Music Team Leadership Manual.
(/www.barbershop.org/document-center/category/10-lead-the-chapter.html)

--
Sing-cerely & Humm-bly,

John Elving
VP Mus. & Perf.
Editor-in-Cheap
Shrine of Democracy Chorus
Bass - CONVERGENCE Quartet
RMD CDD VP
PROBE VP- Bulletin Editors
Rapid City, SD
Email: leaderman@...


Walter D. Dods wrote:
> Hi Netters
>
> Does anyone have some documentation on audition procedures for choruses?
>
> I am sure there was a document by the BHS but I cannot find it
>

Hi Netters
 
I am looking for a gold charm from the Denver convention. I would like to have a
charm from the internationals I have sang at. Denver was my first and I have the
charm from Nashville.

Walter Dods
Lead
Rolling Hills Chorus, BABS
&
The Chorus of the Chesapeake, BHS

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Hi Netters
 
Does anyone have some documentation on audition procedures for choruses?
 
I am sure there was a document by the BHS but I cannot find it

Walter Dods
Lead
Rolling Hills Chorus, BABS
&
The Chorus of the Chesapeake, BHS

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I just received the Fall 2009 Harmony Marketplace catalog, and noticed
an interesting thing.  On perhaps a half a dozen items, the
heritage/lyre logo has been used.

For the longest time the Society seemed to almost militantly divorce
itself from the classic icon, amid wailing and gnashing of teeth by much
of the membership.

Has the Society chosen to acknowledge those who want to hold on to the
familiar image of the Society?  Is this a hint -- in the post Wilson era
-- that perhaps Kenosha/Nashville might not have done the greatest job
of the switchover?

Any thoughts on this?

Derick Sturke
Golden Valley Chorus
Loves the old logo, but the new logo would never stop him from singing.
--
Derick Sturke My Weblog: http://derick-theyoungcurmudgeon.blogspot.com/
Barbershop Weblog: http://ramblenotes.blogspot.com/

One of my "advance planning" friends is asking questions about men's
Internationals this summer in Philly.  Her parents and grown daughter are coming
out from the West Coast to join her in watching the contest and they're looking
for ticket information.

Since this summer will be my first BHS convention in person (but I watch the
webcast and attend the SAI Convention) I'm not sure of the answers to her
questions.  I did some searching here on the Harmonet and found some answers,
but maybe some of you can help with the rest.

1.  What events are NOT covered in a contest registration besides the AIC show?

2.  When do tickets for the AIC show go on sale?

3.  In a past harmonet post someone mentioned that single event tix are sold
after the first session begins.  Have there been years where very few - or no
single tickets were available?

Thank you all -- looking forward to welcoming you Eastward this summer!

Jennifer Newman
Lead, Silver Lining Quartet, SAI
2009 Region 19 Most Improved quartet
2008 Region 19 Novice Quartet Champs

--- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, "Chad" <coralguy@...> wrote:>
> Being in PIO district, I would welcome combining with another
district. It would increase the number of chapters we would encounter
and raise the competitive bar. Isn't meeting new people and making new
friendships part of what this is all about? I would welcome some
redistricting and think it is way overdue.
>
> Chad Hall
> Cherry Capital Chorus
> Traverse City, MI

Meeting new people and making new friendships is most definitely part of
what this is all about.  Increasing the number of chapters we would all
encounter fosters that.
While there's nothing inherently wrong with combining districts, that's
not the path to membership growth or getting new folks into our hobby.
Why not get with your District Membership VP and find out ways you can
help establish some NEW CHAPTERS in your existing district?  I think
there are still plenty of untapped singers out there if we only had more
chapters for more people to enjoy barbershop in their own way!  And
having new people is always exciting, and avails us of making those new
friendships and increasing the number of chapters.
--Brooks Harkey  Membership VP - SWD



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We are looking for some new fundraising projects.



We recently heard about a wine tasting and auction in which members donated
a bottle of a favorite wine costing at least $15 and then at the auction
folks bid on the bottles. Some brought as much as $50 and the auction
produced more than $1,000 for the group.  Wine tasting expenses were covered
by a $5.00 door fee, and all local and state liquor laws were observed.



What fundraisers have worked well for you?



Gary Davis, Land of Lincoln Chorus

gwdavis44@...



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Doug-



I think Ev was specifically addressing someone's comments regarding
"bingo" or other fundraising events of that nature.  Correct me if I'm
wrong, Ev.



Language to these types of events is located in the Society's Rules and
Regulations Handbook, in the "General Statements of Policy" 4 (a).



Here is the language so you can see what may or may not apply:



4. Financial matters

(a) It is expected that our musical talents be employed in presenting
public performances as the primary method of

raising funds. Our chapters and districts should be self-supporting. The
sponsorship or operation of games of

chance, such as lotteries, bingo, etc., open to the public at large, are
not considered as being within the primary

purposes of our Society and are to be engaged in only as a secondary
source and method of raising funds in

support of our educational and charitable purposes. For purposes of the
preceding limitation, the sponsorship or

operation of such games of chance by a chapter or district shall be
considered to be a secondary source and

method of fund raising only so long as, on an annual basis, not more
than one-third of the gross income or other

financial support of the chapter or district (whether received directly
or indirectly for the use and benefit of the

chapter or district) is derived from such sponsorship or operation, and
in no event shall any chapter or district

exceed that limitation. Door prize drawings in conjunction with shows,
where no charge or fee (other than the

regular ticket price) is imposed for the right to participate in the
drawing, and raffles where the entire proceeds

are distributed to a nonprofit Society, district or chapter service
project, are considered to be incidental to our

purposes and will be permitted. A chapter or district may, in its name,
sponsor or operate games of chance, door

prize drawings, raffles, and similar activities only if it is legal to
do so under applicable law. In such event the

chapter or district must: (i) strictly comply with all applicable
federal, state, and local laws and regulations; (ii)

obtain all required registrations, licenses, and permits; and (iii)
maintain complete and accurate books and

records, file all reports and returns, and pay all taxes and fees
required in connection with the activity. No

chapter or district is permitted to represent or imply that the Society
is, or will be, in any way responsible for

any such sponsorship, operation, or activity.



By the way...The Rules and Regulations Handbook can be found in the
Document Center of the Society's website.



Happy reading!  J



Rick Spencer



From: bbshop@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bbshop@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Doug Stewart
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:37 AM
To: bbshop@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bbshop] Re: limit on non-singing fundraising?






Hi Ev,

My chapter enjoys strong financial health; in fact, on 11/7 we staged
our
our most successful annual show ever. Most of our yearly income comes
from
these shows and from Singing Valentines. But with with so many chapters
in
dire financial straits I find it hard to believe that there'd be a fixed
limit on such things as bake sales, candy sales, silent auctions, etc,
to
bolster a struggling chapter's bank balance. Can you (or anyone reading
this) site official chapter and verse on this?

Thanks,
Doug Stewart, Music Director
Hernando Harmonizers P-047, Spring Hill, FL

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Here's a new arrangement by Joe Johnson which he did for this rousing hymn, Men
of God.  Great stuff, especially the bass line...wow!  Hope y'all like it. 
Thanks Joe!

You can hear the straight version by Daniel Gillis  here (look for Men of God
under learning tracks):

www.heartandvoice.weebly.com

Or you can go here for Joe's learning tracks:

http://www.box.net/shared/3k2hlu1mzv

Blessings,

Brian

Hi Ev,

My chapter enjoys strong financial health; in fact, on 11/7 we staged our
our most successful annual show ever. Most of our yearly income comes from
these shows and from Singing Valentines. But with with so many chapters in
dire financial straits I find it hard to believe that there'd be a fixed
limit on such things as bake sales, candy sales, silent auctions, etc, to
bolster a struggling chapter's bank balance. Can you (or anyone reading
this) site official chapter and verse on this?

Thanks,
Doug Stewart, Music Director
Hernando Harmonizers P-047, Spring Hill, FL

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