Thanks to all who have responded. I have now learned that
the URL to my site, http://d1089471.mydomainwebhost.com is working properly, but
the URL forwarding from www.bbsmusic.com is not. I have checked the
forwarding address in my domain account, and it’s correct, so apparently this
problem belongs to mydomain. 

 
JOE JOHNSON
House of Joseph Music
www.bbsmusic.com

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Hi All,

I am planning a special project and I need an arranger who will create some tags
for me that will be used to honor veterans.  This is a donation project in the
spirit of the Brotherhood of Barbershop.

All replies please to opakeith@...

Thanks and God Bless America,

Keith (Opa) Eckhardt

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For many years our chorus opened the meeting with The Old Songs. Reflecting on
the meaning of the lyrics I am predisposed to offer these words.

What has happened to the OLD SONGS. With few exceptions the quartets and
choruses of today are
looking at far more modern titles and charts. Old School sings the old songs and
wins the hearts of all who listen.

I have a list and charts for dozens of good singing titles that are in public
domain. I find the constant
continuity of the old songs far easier to learn and sing.

Are there anymore like me out there. Of course I've been doing this for 57 years
with the same chapter even though I no longer participate due to health issues.

If you'd rather, contact me privately.

Ed Hinkley
Barbershop through and through




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   You bring up some good thoughts, Ed.  I'm probably as Old School as anyone
out there when it comes to barbershop.  I've been in barbershopping for around
45 years.   I love the old songs and love singing them...and even trying to
write songs in the old style.
   But I've also learned to develop a taste for more modern titles and charts. 
You say Old School "wins the hearts of all who listen."  The key, though, may
be: "who's listening?"  There are still a lot of folks out there who will listen
and love the old style, but there are also a lot of ears that will turn the
other way.  They will listen, however, to some new songs and sounds.
   So, again, I say....why can't we do both as a Society?  Let's tolerate, not
eliminate.
 
Norm Starks
 
 
For many years our chorus opened the meeting with The Old Songs. Reflecting on
the meaning of the lyrics I am predisposed to offer these words.

What has happened to the OLD SONGS. With few exceptions the quartets and
choruses of today are
looking at far more modern titles and charts. Old School sings the old songs and
wins the hearts of all who listen.

I have a list and charts for dozens of good singing titles that are in public
domain. I find the constant
continuity of the old songs far easier to learn and sing.

Are there anymore like me out there. Of course I've been doing this for 57 years
with the same chapter even though I no longer participate due to health issues.

If you'd rather, contact me privately.

Ed Hinkley
Barbershop through and through


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International Quartet Champions in 1961, the Suntones have had a long history of
enteraining and thrilling their
audiences.  All good things must come to an end, however, and the Suntones will
be giving their last public performance
on May 19th, in Cleveland, TN, on the Sound of Tennessee's Show of Champions
titled A Western Omelet - with Extra Ham.
During discussions with the quartet Gene Cokeroft mentioned that he'd like to
have some extra copies of the show program
as keepsakes, and we had a great idea.  We're going to dedicate a section of the
show program to Suntones tributes and
you can take part.  Send in your photos, stories, "best wishes from ----",
whatever - we'll print them in the program
and present copies to the quartet during the show.  We'll also mail you a copy
of the program if you can't join us for
the show.  Rates are reasonable to be a part of barbershop history - $100 full
page, $55 half page, $30 quarter page.
Hurry, though - we need everything in by May 11th.  Email info "at" soundoftn
"dot" org for more information, or contact
me directly.

If you're anywhere nearby, come join us for the show - the Suntones will be
joined by 2002 Quartet Champions (and 1996
Collegiate Champions) Four Voices and 2006 Quartet Champions Vocal Spectrum, not
to mention the Sound of Tennessee
Chorus under the direction of Chad Guyton.  Tickets are still available, and we
have a special arrangement with Holiday
Inn Express for those of you that want to stay overnight.

Paul Blazek
Assistant Director, Sound of Tennessee
Director, Choo Choo Chorus
VP Financial Development, Dixie District
MUS judge candidate
Bass whenever possible

Hi Ed & fellow bbshopprs.

Amen to your Post.  I direct a Barbershop Chorus in Hot Springs Village, AR. 
The Village is a retirement community.  The largest Gated retirement community
in the USA. (26,000 acres).  Our guys dearly love "The Old Songs" and
surprisingly even a lot of the "Baby Boomers" who are in their 40s and 50s enjoy
our singing and "Good Old Slap Stick" comedy when we put on a show.  We never
want to loose sight of our beginnings and continue to strive to keep this part
of Americana from becoming extinct.  One of our quartets is even called "The
Senior Edition".

Sing-cerely & Humm-bly,
Roger York, Director
Chanticleers Barbershop Chorus
http://www.villagebarbershoppers.org/
“Where ordinary men make extraordinary music".



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I have done an arrangement of "In Apple Blossom Time" that is pretty nice.
That's a good PD song.  Contact me if you are interested in it.



Jeremy Reynolds

bbs10rfl@...



From: bbshop@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bbshop@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Edward Hinkley
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:41 PM
To: bbshop@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bbshop] The Old Songs






For many years our chorus opened the meeting with The Old Songs. Reflecting
on the meaning of the lyrics I am predisposed to offer these words.

What has happened to the OLD SONGS. With few exceptions the quartets and
choruses of today are
looking at far more modern titles and charts. Old School sings the old songs
and wins the hearts of all who listen.

I have a list and charts for dozens of good singing titles that are in
public domain. I find the constant
continuity of the old songs far easier to learn and sing.

Are there anymore like me out there. Of course I've been doing this for 57
years with the same chapter even though I no longer participate due to
health issues.

If you'd rather, contact me privately.

Ed Hinkley
Barbershop through and through

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Okay, got a call for a wedding proposal... June 3rd, Sunday afternoon, Bronx /
Queens.

Proposee requests one song (may not be possible), Truly Madly Deeply

	 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Dg1Ymji-Q


But, song selection aside, the first step is are you available as a quartet?

I will compile a list of quartets and pass those on to the guy, so please check
your calendar and let me know.

David

Anyone out there from the Kalamazoo chapter or know how to get in touch
with someone from there?  I tried contacting them through their website but
haven't received any response.  And when I try to access chapter member
contact information through ebiz, it tells me I'm not authorized to view
member information (?).

Thanks!

Jeremey Johnson
Composer/Arranger
High Note Music Industries
www.highnotemusicindustries.com
765-313-1699


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I did one back a few years that got me a scholarship to Harmony College.
Care to swap?  <G>


Dick Johnson
2104 5th Ave No
Great Falls, MT  59401




-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Reynolds <bbs10rfl@...>
To: 'Edward Hinkley' <hinkleyehink557@...>; bbshop <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, May 2, 2012 10:10 am
Subject: RE: [bbshop] The Old Songs





I have done an arrangement of "In Apple Blossom Time" that is pretty nice.
That's a good PD song.  Contact me if you are interested in it.

Jeremy Reynolds

bbs10rfl@...

From: bbshop@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bbshop@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Edward Hinkley
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 9:41 PM
To: bbshop@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bbshop] The Old Songs

For many years our chorus opened the meeting with The Old Songs. Reflecting
on the meaning of the lyrics I am predisposed to offer these words.

What has happened to the OLD SONGS. With few exceptions the quartets and
choruses of today are
looking at far more modern titles and charts. Old School sings the old songs
and wins the hearts of all who listen.

I have a list and charts for dozens of good singing titles that are in
public domain. I find the constant
continuity of the old songs far easier to learn and sing.

Are there anymore like me out there. Of course I've been doing this for 57
years with the same chapter even though I no longer participate due to
health issues.

If you'd rather, contact me privately.

Ed Hinkley
Barbershop through and through

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You are right on, Mark!  You make my point exactly.  Thanks for your viewpoint.
Norm Starks
 
>Would you tolerate some musings from a not-very-long-term
barbershop singer?

>I've just renewed my membership a few weeks ago: 4 years of
service, 1 man of note award.  I've learned a lot of great
and wonderful things singing barbershop - one of which is
an appreciation for the "old songs".

>About which I did not care, at all, before I joined my
chorus.  I'm a pretty good fit for barbershop: I was
in my late 40s when I joined, have served on our board
for 2 years, one as VP Music and Performance.  I can
carry a reasonable tune, for a bass.

>Before I joined, if you had asked me to sing an "old
song", it would have been by The Beatles.  Or maybe
a show tune from the 70s.  Or something by The Kinks.
I was born in 1961 - songs from my early childhood
were "old" to me.

>Sure, I'd heard a few of "The Old Songs", but they were
not exactly on the top of my mind, and were not something
I was going to pursue.

>I am sensitive to the feelings of gentlemen like Ed Hinkley,
who have served so long and done so much, and are trying
to preserve that which was most important to them, when
they joined.  Same for Norm - people like that built this
organization, and made it available to me, when I was
ready.

>At the same time, though, men of my age, or younger, are
not pining to join the same organization that such
important gentlemen joined.  There has to be a hook, a
point of relevance to us, a thing we are looking for.
Once we find that thing that is meaningful to us - we
can be taught to appreciate the old as much as the new.

>That, I think, is the key to barbershop preservation. Not
doing just "the old songs", but preserving everything,
and bringing in men who will learn to preserve everything too.
I could have joined any of a dozen of local singing
groups (still can).  Why should I be HERE?


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Greetings Barbershop Fans!

The annual Sing With The Champs event held each year at the annual international
convention of the Barbershop Harmony Society. This year the Sing With The Champs
event presented on July 7, 2012 in Portland Oregon by the Association of
International Champions to benefit their youth harmony outreach programs is
again being sponsored and underwritten by the world's largest distributor of
barbershop audio, Naked Voice Records. It will be held on Saturday morning in
Portland from 8:30 am until 11:30 am.

Registrations for SWTC2012 will again be conducted through our scheduling
provider, Appointments-Plus, and payments will be processed through PayPal.  If
any of you still have a registration from last year, it should still be valid at
Appointments-Plus. They can be reached through the website for the event,
www.singwiththechamps.com, which also contains all of the song lists for this
year's participating quartets.  At Noon EDT on May 7 (next Monday) the
registration software should once again come alive for sign ups.  Good luck to
all and hope to see you all in Portland!

--
Jonathan P. Clunies, General Counsel
Niche Music Group, LLC
Voice/Fax: (212) 479-7355
jon@...

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On 5/2/2012 9:38 AM, Norm Starks wrote:
> You bring up some good thoughts, Ed.  I'm probably as Old School as
> anyone out there when it comes to barbershop.  I've been in
> barbershopping for around 45 years.   I love the old songs and love
> singing them...and even trying to write songs in the old style. But
> I've also learned to develop a taste for more modern titles and
> charts.  You say Old School "wins the hearts of all who listen."  The
> key, though, may be: "who's listening?"  There are still a lot of
> folks out there who will listen and love the old style, but there are
> also a lot of ears that will turn the other way.  They will listen,
> however, to some new songs and sounds. So, again, I say....why can't
> we do both as a Society?  Let's tolerate, not eliminate.

Would you tolerate some musings from a not-very-long-term
barbershop singer?

I've just renewed my membership a few weeks ago: 4 years of
service, 1 man of note award.  I've learned a lot of great
and wonderful things singing barbershop - one of which is
an appreciation for the "old songs".

About which I did not care, at all, before I joined my
chorus.  I'm a pretty good fit for barbershop: I was
in my late 40s when I joined, have served on our board
for 2 years, one as VP Music and Performance.  I can
carry a reasonable tune, for a bass.

Before I joined, if you had asked me to sing an "old
song", it would have been by The Beatles.  Or maybe
a show tune from the 70s.  Or something by The Kinks.
I was born in 1961 - songs from my early childhood
were "old" to me.

Sure, I'd heard a few of "The Old Songs", but they were
not exactly on the top of my mind, and were not something
I was going to pursue.

I am sensitive to the feelings of gentlemen like Ed Hinkley,
who have served so long and done so much, and are trying
to preserve that which was most important to them, when
they joined.  Same for Norm - people like that built this
organization, and made it available to me, when I was
ready.

At the same time, though, men of my age, or younger, are
not pining to join the same organization that such
important gentlemen joined.  There has to be a hook, a
point of relevance to us, a thing we are looking for.
Once we find that thing that is meaningful to us - we
can be taught to appreciate the old as much as the new.

That, I think, is the key to barbershop preservation. Not
doing just "the old songs", but preserving everything,
and bringing in men who will learn to preserve everything too.
I could have joined any of a dozen of local singing
groups (still can).  Why should I be HERE?

If you want to preserve The Old Songs, you have to do
so by teaching new singers to sing them - not by just
singing them yourself.  And the best way to reach those
new singers is to begin the process of preserving the
good NEW songs, and sharing the good old songs.

	 Mark Schuldenfrei

PS I used to sing early music, 800-1650.  Let me tell
     YOU about Old Songs, kids. :-)  That's worth preserving
     too...  How would I go about making you interested in
     them?  Whatever that is, that is how you should go about
     preserving barbershop.

A simple recipe for a Good Old Song

Find a song that's easy to sing,
Mix in some chords that make the song ring.
A smile and some moves for a little flair
It won't be long until you are there.
Sing it over and over and over again,
With three other people like it has no end.
When you have done this it won't be long
Until you are singing a Good Old Barbershop Song.

Doug Johnson
Robbinsdale, Minnesota

--- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, Norm Starks <nlstarks@...> wrote:
>
> You are right on, Mark!  You make my point exactly.  Thanks for your
viewpoint.
> Norm Starks
>  
> >Would you tolerate some musings from a not-very-long-term
> barbershop singer?
>
> >I've just renewed my membership a few weeks ago: 4 years of
> service, 1 man of note award.  I've learned a lot of great
> and wonderful things singing barbershop - one of which is
> an appreciation for the "old songs".
>
> >About which I did not care, at all, before I joined my
> chorus.  I'm a pretty good fit for barbershop: I was
> in my late 40s when I joined, have served on our board
> for 2 years, one as VP Music and Performance.  I can
> carry a reasonable tune, for a bass.
>
> >Before I joined, if you had asked me to sing an "old
> song", it would have been by The Beatles.  Or maybe
> a show tune from the 70s.  Or something by The Kinks.
> I was born in 1961 - songs from my early childhood
> were "old" to me.
>
> >Sure, I'd heard a few of "The Old Songs", but they were
> not exactly on the top of my mind, and were not something
> I was going to pursue.
>
> >I am sensitive to the feelings of gentlemen like Ed Hinkley,
> who have served so long and done so much, and are trying
> to preserve that which was most important to them, when
> they joined.  Same for Norm - people like that built this
> organization, and made it available to me, when I was
> ready.
>
> >At the same time, though, men of my age, or younger, are
> not pining to join the same organization that such
> important gentlemen joined.  There has to be a hook, a
> point of relevance to us, a thing we are looking for.
> Once we find that thing that is meaningful to us - we
> can be taught to appreciate the old as much as the new.
>
> >That, I think, is the key to barbershop preservation. Not
> doing just "the old songs", but preserving everything,
> and bringing in men who will learn to preserve everything too.
> I could have joined any of a dozen of local singing
> groups (still can).  Why should I be HERE?
>
>
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>

Agreed. The question then becomes, once we get them in the door, what do we do
with them.

Stephen

-----------------
There are still a lot of folks out there who will listen and love the old style,
but there are also a lot of ears that will turn the other way. They will listen,
however, to some new songs and sounds. So, again, I say....why can't we do both
as a Society? Let's tolerate, not eliminate.


-----------------
At the same time, though, men of my age, or younger, are not pining to join the
same organization that such important gentlemen joined. There has to be a hook,
a point of relevance to us, a thing we are looking for. Once we find that thing
that is meaningful to us - we can be taught to appreciate the old as much as the
new.



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On 5/3/2012 9:31 AM, Stephen Rafe wrote:
> Agreed. The question then becomes, once we get them in the door, what
> do we do with them.

I thought that the Compellingly Attractive Chapter Meetings
program was a brilliant answer.  So brilliant that I've
recommended the materials to friends in other hobbies.

Unrelated to that, and far from my own personal background, a
friend pointed me at an article from http://www.barna.org/
yesterday.  The article was on keeping mailing lists and other
electronic groups relevant and interesting... but the
organization itself is a research organization for the
evangelical movement on how to find, retain, and engage
people in churches.  Much of what their research finds, it
seems, would be applicable to us in some ways as well.

(Note: I am not an evangelical, and not a Christian, and I am
only sharing a new-to-me source of information and research
on cultural and social interactions.  Some of their articles
which I read after that first one, truly interested me because
they discuss what motivates people to participate, belong and
stay in their particular groups-of-interest.)

	 Mark Schuldenfrei

I'm having a bit of difficulty with my mass mailing prog to the Virtual Chorus
members, so thought this was a good way to spread the news:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi guys and thanks so much for submitting your videos for the Vc.

I've just finished editing the ladies video - Lazy Day - and its now
published on YouTube here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J11TDYd0YPY&feature=youtu.be

I've almost finished Sweet Lorraine, but have decided to extend the date
for submissions instead as there are only 43 guys in the video. I think if
we give it another push we should get that up to around 100 or so as there
are 745 guys signed up :-)

I'm going to extend the submission date to 1st June with the intention of
having the final video completed by International Convention in July
(hopefully premiere it on the big screen in the convention hall).

Sorry about the delay here guys, but I want us to look as good as good as
possible :-)

Peter Nugent
aka - nooj


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SOUNDWORKS, Central Virginia's premier men's ensemble will perform on Saturday,
May 12 at 7 PM at Northside Baptist Church, 7600 Studley Rd, Mechanicsville, VA.
The 5-time champion of the M-AD Southern Division will perform many "fan
favorites" including contemporary, jazz, blues, sacred to silly. The concert is
free and open to the public.

I have 8 tickets to the Barbershop International convention in Portland, OR July
3 thru July 8.  All are on the ground floor next to the sound stage and grouped
together in two rows.  Some of the best seats in the arena!  All 8 tickets are
"youth" (25 and under).  The ticket office will convert the youth to adult
tickets by receiving the difference paid directly to them (they accept credit
cards).  I will send the "youth" ticket directly to you. The transfer of "Youth"
ticket to "adult" or "Member" may also be done at the the time of convention at
the registration desk.  "Dusty" with the Barbershop Harmony Society will confirm
this is a legitamate sale.

Total price for the adult member (one ticket available) is $175.00.

Total price for the adult non-member is $189.00.

To convert the youth ticket to adult requires paying the Barbershop
international headquarters the difference of $76.00 for member and $90.00 for
non-member.

I have two tickets I need to sell for the Portland International Barbershop
Convention.

Section: Floor Left, Row: 26, Seats: 7 and 8

Will sell for what I paid for them -- $305. for the pair.

If interested, please e-mail me privately at:  sterkinb@...

Bruce Sterkin

Dear All,

These views are my personal views and are not representative of Peter or
anyone associated with the VC project.

I was reflecting on Peter Nugents (and all the gals) superb efforts with
the Virtual Chorus "Lazy Days" and wondering if the poor take up for the
men's version is a reflection of apathy within many male barbershoppers.
"Someone else will improve, do it, learn it, market it, sell it, so I don't
have to do I?".....

The call was made to men and women to be a part of these wonderful
projects. The ladies have clearly trail blazed with this awesome version
sewn up and subscribed to by no less than 4 Champion quartets, including 2
International Champion quartets together with over 100 women from all parts
of the world. Their version of Lazy Days is fabulous.

Now to the guys version, Sweet Lorraine, brilliant chart, so far 48
submitted with a submission date extension offered. hmmm... BTW I did
submit for both male projects. Why does there have to be an extension
for guys, this kinda feels like we are behind or dragging our feet.
Lets get behind this fantastic project and allow this fab resource to be
shared with the rest of the World.

Otherwise it's a missed opportunity? - These kinds of videos are fantastic
assets in marketing and advertising this great hobby, the more quality,
legal youtube examples of barbershop done greatly out there, the better.

Just quickly, where does this feeling of apathy come from and why? I know
it's not through lack of skills and ladies are just as time poor as men, so
what is it? I have Directed both ladies and men's groups and offer the
following. Putting aside the VM's, AOH and Westminsters and the top ladies
equivalents, my 'general' observation as a teacher of barbershop is there
is a larger proportion of ladies are more interested in the "why" when they
learn. More of them appear to thrive and enjoy the checks and balances that
barbershop requires and importantly they are more willing to learn, take on
board new information and apply it. Ask any male musical Director of a
Ladies group and I'm sure you'll find a similar story.

Leave it with you...
--
Kind regards,

Jim
Director of Music
www.tsvp.org
0404 881 302


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OK, well, probably not. But it's still a rare opportunity to hear your favorite
comedy quartet up close without having to fly to international and stay in an
expensive hotel. It's an afternoon show this May 12th,so you can probably drive
to Atlanta and drive back the same day. You can even save the Motel 6 bill!
Seriously though, we'd love to have you enjoy this show along with FRED, A
Mighty Wind, Zamboni Brothers, Lighthouse and To the Fore (I think Atlanta Vocal
Project is supposed to sing too, if we can squeeze them in). Order tickets on
the website and pick them up at will call when you arrive.
http://www.atlantavocalproject.com/show/index.html
Hope to see you there!
Rick Word
Atlanta Vocal Project

Does anyone know if "Ruby" by Ray Charles has been arranged?
Thanks,
Nancy Nortz
OK City Chorus
Bass, City SoundWave Quartet


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For what it's worth, "Ruby" was written by Hein Roemheld & Mitchell Parrish for
the movie RUBY GENTRY.

Will

--- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, dancinbari@... wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if "Ruby" by Ray Charles has been arranged?
> Thanks,
> Nancy Nortz
> OK City Chorus
> Bass, City SoundWave Quartet
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Why don't you ask RUBY Rhea?


Shelley Herman
saherman@...


> From: willhamblet <willhamblet@...>
> Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 01:58:46 -0000
> To: <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [bbshop] Re: Looking for Arrangement
>
> For what it's worth, "Ruby" was written by Hein Roemheld & Mitchell Parrish
> for the movie RUBY GENTRY.
>
> Will
>
> --- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, dancinbari@... wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if "Ruby" by Ray Charles has been arranged?
>> Thanks,
>> Nancy Nortz
>> OK City Chorus
>> Bass, City SoundWave Quartet
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>

Or Tom GENTRY!



Will

----- Original Message -----
From: "Shelley Herman" <saherman@...>
To: "willhamblet" <willhamblet@...>; "HARMONET"
<bbshop@yahoogroups.com>; "Ruby Rhea" <RubyRhea@...>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [bbshop] Re: Looking for Arrangement


> Why don't you ask RUBY Rhea?
>
>
> Shelley Herman
> saherman@...
>
>
>> From: willhamblet <willhamblet@...>
>> Date: Sat, 05 May 2012 01:58:46 -0000
>> To: <bbshop@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [bbshop] Re: Looking for Arrangement
>>
>> For what it's worth, "Ruby" was written by Heinz Roemheld & Mitchell Parrish
>> for the movie RUBY GENTRY.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> --- In bbshop@yahoogroups.com, dancinbari@... wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if "Ruby" by Ray Charles has been arranged?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nancy Nortz
>>> OK City Chorus
>>> Bass, City SoundWave Quartet
>>>
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>
>
>

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Netters,
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Alex

The first thing I would recommend is stop using computer equipment to record
audio.  When computer equipment is designed, all the design team cares about
is the data and video and the audio is only there because it has to be.  Get
a real digital audio recorder with 3-pin XL type microphone input
connectors.  Get some real microphones like the AKG¹s that I recommended in
the post to Robin. Put them on stands in front of the chorus.

The Zoom recorder and others like it are for recording small groups, up
close.  To record a chorus you need real microphones, on stands that can be
placed for best pickup depending upon the acoustics of the room.  I own six
Marantz 620, which is similar to the Zoom.  I use them for recording medical
conferences, but they are always connected to the PA system in the room. The
only time I use the built in microphones is when I am recording a small
meeting like a chapter board meeting or a session with just two or three
people.

Lose the wireless lapel microphones. Not only are they probably
omnidirectional, but the wireless links have compression circuits that mess
up your dynamics.

Remember what I have said in previous posts about musical films.  The audio
is always recorded first and the singers lip sync.  You are not going to get
good recordings of your chorus without microphones in front of them, period.
For performance and production use hanging, overhead microphones.

If you want to have sound on your videos, and it¹s just for rehearsal, not
performance, use the setup I have stated above and feed the output of the
audio recorder into the LINE input of the video recorder.

To repeat myself, get some real audio equipment and stop using computer gear
for audio.  Save the lapel mic¹s for the director when he is rehearsing the
chorus, it saves his voice and lets the chorus understand him easier.

I hopes this helps.

Shelley Herman
saherman@...





I do need your advice on recording our chorus rehearsals. First, our current
setup is this - web camera (I don't remember the model but it is really
basic, as you can see from the video - here's our last
rehearsal http://youtu.be/UAPjq3Qo26s), two wireless lapel mics clipped to
 music stands - all connected to a laptop. Once the video is recorded, the
audio is then extracted from it. The quality of the video seem to be
tolerated because of video file size with a higher resolution. The quality
of sound is really bad. We are at the point where we need the equipment
updated. Among suggestions - purchase Zoom H4n recorder for audio recording
and when good quality video is required, connect it to another video
camcorder with a better resolution to record both video and audio. 
While reading your reply I was thinking if there is really another
alternative that would include updating the web camera to a better, not
fancy unit and replacing lapel mics that we put on music stands on each
corner facing the chorus on the risers (7 or 9 sections) at about the same
line as director, with wired mics,  like Perception 170. Would it work?
Could you think of any other setup that would work? Zoom H4n have mics that
can be set at 90 degree XY or 120 degree, or surround mode and then it can
be placed between the director and the chorus. Our other chorus has been
using H4n and they are very pleased with the high quality. We would like to
have a much better sound that we have now and still to record the video.






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Is there any one out there that can steer me toward a BBS arrangement of: I
want a Hippopotamus for Christmas?
thanks in advance!
In Harmony
Jack


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Alex:

Below is a link that may help.  It deals with "Miking a Choir".  This can be a
choir, a chorus, a Barbershop chorus, etc.  If you really need to obtain the
sound from your group this is the way to go.  There are 5 short videos. 
However, they do tend to push a certain brand, but the examples apply to all.  I
have found this really works.  One of our former coaches has helped with BHS for
years in setting up the sound for international competitions.  He has indicated
to me the basics contained in this link are very helpful.

http://www.prosoundnetwork.com/Default.aspx?tabid=69&EntryId=265

I hope this helps.

Sing-cerely & Humm-bly,
Roger York, Director
Chanticleers Barbershop Chorus
http://www.villagebarbershoppers.org/
“Where ordinary men make extraordinary music".



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