Thank You for all the information, and for sharing your solution to joining
these two units together....I really appreciate it!




--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "KrisV" <azymbol@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "e_buy_sell" <e_buy_sell@> wrote:
> >
> > Flat out fantastic! Have you decided on a price, with shipping in the USA?
Please let me know!
> >
> > --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "azymbol" <azymbol@> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/photos/album/47268658/pic/list
> > >
> >
>
> glad to hear you liked the mod.
> I got the same question about making the panels and sending them
> to the USA in february.
> Seems like shipping these over would cost at least 2 times more than making
them as I'm living in Belgium.
>
> Your best option is to print the pdf (in files section) at 100% and stick it
together to make a template.
> Disassemble the original side panels (and front panel of the top BC)
> Put the 2 controllers on their side and see if the screw holes of the
> template match the holes in the BC's.
> Then find a local woodcutter and show him the template.
>
> DIY option:
> find 2 pieces of wood or MDF(I used MDF 9 millimeter thick so the original
screws could be used)
> attach the template to the wood/MDF with (double sided)tape,put the second
piece of wood under it and drill the screw holes. I put 4 wood screws in the
drill holes to stick the 2 pieces of wood together so they won't slide while
cutting them.
> Now cut along the lines of the template with a decent jigsaw.
> After cutting,remove the wood screws and use some sand paper to remove
> the rough edges.
>
> I hope this helps...
>

Yeah, you can stack commands.
As for the speed of the note on msgs for the
cursor, I am not sure, and I have not looked at
it for a while.
I meant using ahk to convert midi to keyboard short cuts.
There are many control possibilities not available just in mackie.
I can imaging, tho I have not coded it specifically, the dpots, when touched
sending out the mouse click on the first item in the fx, to give the autoselect
eq, or whatever is the first effect.
I know, no one wants to use someother program
to do what the software should to begin with.
Ahk exe or scripts are very small and pretty stable.

I don't have live 8!

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "erikjalevik" <erikjalevik@...> wrote:
>
> It seems this is indeed possible from Live 8. Details are here if you want to
play around with it:
>
> http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=116078
>
> I'm familiar with Autohotkey but would prefer to not rely on third-party apps
running if possible. I would have thought you should be able to get a button to
send more than one MIDI event by specifying .tx commands in BCManager?
>
> Oh, and while I have you on the line so to speak, I was looking at the preset
definition for the cursor movement knob, and it's using a .tx line to send out a
Note On value repeatedly. What I couldn't really understand though was what
determines the speed that these messages are sent with. It seems I have to turn
the knob quite a bit to get the next one to emit. I would like to speed this up
to make the control more sensitive. I tried playing with the resolution values
but it didn't seem to have any effect.
>
> Thanks
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "-" <k5kip_1999@> wrote:
> >
> > That is an interesting thought, I will investigate at some point.
> > I am trying to focus back on music. Let me catch up and discover what you
are talking about and I will try to come up with a solution.
> > I have not even been using these presets lately, so I don't even know how
they work anymore!  Hahahaha
> > In the mean time take your question about the hand over to the ableton live
forum, someone there might know how to access or what commands are involved.
> > With autohotkey we can map "many" things (either midi events or pc key to
key stacks of commands, actions or other commands in Live.
> > However, it does involve coding(ok - not coding but scripting).
> >
> > Kip
>

It seems this is indeed possible from Live 8. Details are here if you want to
play around with it:

http://forum.ableton.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=116078

I'm familiar with Autohotkey but would prefer to not rely on third-party apps
running if possible. I would have thought you should be able to get a button to
send more than one MIDI event by specifying .tx commands in BCManager?

Oh, and while I have you on the line so to speak, I was looking at the preset
definition for the cursor movement knob, and it's using a .tx line to send out a
Note On value repeatedly. What I couldn't really understand though was what
determines the speed that these messages are sent with. It seems I have to turn
the knob quite a bit to get the next one to emit. I would like to speed this up
to make the control more sensitive. I tried playing with the resolution values
but it didn't seem to have any effect.

Thanks

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "-" <k5kip_1999@...> wrote:
>
> That is an interesting thought, I will investigate at some point.
> I am trying to focus back on music. Let me catch up and discover what you are
talking about and I will try to come up with a solution.
> I have not even been using these presets lately, so I don't even know how they
work anymore!  Hahahaha
> In the mean time take your question about the hand over to the ableton live
forum, someone there might know how to access or what commands are involved.
> With autohotkey we can map "many" things (either midi events or pc key to key
stacks of commands, actions or other commands in Live.
> However, it does involve coding(ok - not coding but scripting).
>
> Kip

anybody??

The thing is that the installer behaves as if i wouldn't have net framework
installed, altough it IS there!!

I would really appreciate some help!!!

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "guanchetetranchete" <guanchetetranchete@...>
wrote:
>
> Everytime I try, the installer asks me wether i want to install the net
framework thing, although it's already installed!! If i say yes, it downloads it
and installs it again and then nothing else occurs, and if i say no, the
intaller window just disppears!!!
> Nobody here seems to have this problem, or at least i haven't found
anything...
>
> Thsnks in advance for your help!!!!1
>

That is an interesting thought, I will investigate at some point.
I am trying to focus back on music. Let me catch up and discover what you are
talking about and I will try to come up with a solution.
I have not even been using these presets lately, so I don't even know how they
work anymore!  Hahahaha
In the mean time take your question about the hand over to the ableton live
forum, someone there might know how to access or what commands are involved.
With autohotkey we can map "many" things (either midi events or pc key to key
stacks of commands, actions or other commands in Live.
However, it does involve coding(ok - not coding but scripting).

Kip

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "erikjalevik" <erikjalevik@...> wrote:
>
> I recently got a BCR2000, and am quite impressed with the Mackie control
preset for Ableton Live by genmce.
>
> I love being able to switch banks and channels and have all the controls
follow along. There is one thing I'm missing though, and I'm wondering if it's
possible to achieve. I'll illustrate with an example.
>
> Say I have an EQ device on each track as the first device. I can click on it
with the mouse, it'll get the "hand" and then I can use the d.pots. Brilliant.
However, even better would be to have it always follow along when switching
channels. So that the same knobs on the BCR would always control the EQ for
whichever track I happen to have selected.
>
> It sort of half-works if I first select the device in Live with the mouse,
then move to a different track with a channel select button and that new channel
has a clip in the current slot. The "hand" will then move to the EQ device of
the new channel. If there is no clip in the slot however, the hand doesn't move.
The hand also doesn't move if using the cursor knob instead of the channel
select buttons.
>
> Is there a way to set the hand via MIDI? So that e.g. every time I select a
new channel, a message will go to Live saying "put the hand on the first device
in the device chain for the active channel"?
>
> Thanks
>

I recently got a BCR2000, and am quite impressed with the Mackie control preset
for Ableton Live by genmce.

I love being able to switch banks and channels and have all the controls follow
along. There is one thing I'm missing though, and I'm wondering if it's possible
to achieve. I'll illustrate with an example.

Say I have an EQ device on each track as the first device. I can click on it
with the mouse, it'll get the "hand" and then I can use the d.pots. Brilliant.
However, even better would be to have it always follow along when switching
channels. So that the same knobs on the BCR would always control the EQ for
whichever track I happen to have selected.

It sort of half-works if I first select the device in Live with the mouse, then
move to a different track with a channel select button and that new channel has
a clip in the current slot. The "hand" will then move to the EQ device of the
new channel. If there is no clip in the slot however, the hand doesn't move. The
hand also doesn't move if using the cursor knob instead of the channel select
buttons.

Is there a way to set the hand via MIDI? So that e.g. every time I select a new
channel, a message will go to Live saying "put the hand on the first device in
the device chain for the active channel"?

Thanks

I was so excited after looking at all the posts and files regarding user presets
that contain Mackie Emulation.  I immediately downloaded BC Manager and the Live
presets from this forum.  I launched Live and started testing out the different
presets.  Then reality set in when I found two major drawbacks to using MCU mode
in presets:

1)  V-Pot LEDs don't sync with the DAW.
2)  I can't use BCFView.

Please tell me that there are solutions to the above two problems.  Otherwise,
I'll just have to go back to MCU mode.

Peace \/
chisel316

Everytime I try, the installer asks me wether i want to install the net
framework thing, although it's already installed!! If i say yes, it downloads it
and installs it again and then nothing else occurs, and if i say no, the
intaller window just disppears!!!
Nobody here seems to have this problem, or at least i haven't found anything...

Thsnks in advance for your help!!!!1

Ok, I'll answer myself:

BCmanager is the all time winner isn't it?
With this I can pick the best parts of your emulations and make my own control
dream!!

Yet, I would like to know how do you know that PB 1 127 bla bla bla controls the
volume on tracks 1, 9, 17 etc... and how can i create my own controller, f.i.: I
want to navigate thru tracks in arr view and i haven't found any emulation where
i can pick that from. Is there some kind of Live MIDI implementation diccionary
or something like that?

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "guanchetetranchete" <guanchetetranchete@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> New here and with the BCF2000 so please be gentle if my question isn't really
brilliant or it's already answered (didn't find anything here, though i thought
i would):
>
> How on earth do you program those mackie emulations for ableton live? I mean,
if i want to write my own, and i want certain pot to work as a jog wheel, how
can i do it?!!! Am I missing something? or should i know how to program or
something?
>
> I would LOVE to be able to write my own emulation!!!!!!!
> ...though I see that you guys have made a couple of nice ones over here!!!
>
> Thanx in advance!
>

Hi!

New here and with the BCF2000 so please be gentle if my question isn't really
brilliant or it's already answered (didn't find anything here, though i thought
i would):

How on earth do you program those mackie emulations for ableton live? I mean, if
i want to write my own, and i want certain pot to work as a jog wheel, how can i
do it?!!! Am I missing something? or should i know how to program or something?

I would LOVE to be able to write my own emulation!!!!!!!
...though I see that you guys have made a couple of nice ones over here!!!

Thanx in advance!

--- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "e_buy_sell" <e_buy_sell@...> wrote:
>
> Flat out fantastic! Have you decided on a price, with shipping in the USA?
Please let me know!
>
> --- In bc2000@yahoogroups.com, "azymbol" <azymbol@> wrote:
> >
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bc2000/photos/album/47268658/pic/list
> >
>

glad to hear you liked the mod.
I got the same question about making the panels and sending them
to the USA in february.
Seems like shipping these over would cost at least 2 times more than making them
as I'm living in Belgium.

Your best option is to print the pdf (in files section) at 100% and stick it
together to make a template.
Disassemble the original side panels (and front panel of the top BC)
Put the 2 controllers on their side and see if the screw holes of the
template match the holes in the BC's.
Then find a local woodcutter and show him the template.

DIY option:
find 2 pieces of wood or MDF(I used MDF 9 millimeter thick so the original
screws could be used)
attach the template to the wood/MDF with (double sided)tape,put the second piece
of wood under it and drill the screw holes. I put 4 wood screws in the drill
holes to stick the 2 pieces of wood together so they won't slide while cutting
them.
Now cut along the lines of the template with a decent jigsaw.
After cutting,remove the wood screws and use some sand paper to remove
the rough edges.

I hope this helps...