I just got this which came with an attachment, which Hotmail blocked for my
safety, but I wouldn't open it anyway.

You have won 1,000.000.00 Euro ( One Million Euro ),in the Euro millions Email
Sweepstakes Program Corporation, held on the 27th of November 2009.In Brussels
Belgium. We write to officially notify you of this award and to advise you to
contact the processing office immediately. For the claim. the same message
attached

Contact Person, Mr. Kart Van Winski.
TEL:+0032489-993-181 or 01132489-993-181

A good bright and sunny day for the first day of December. It was below freezing
when I got up, but is now bumping 40.

Rockin' China Doll-Gene Ross
Whole Lotta Shakin' Going On-Roy Hall
It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year-Andy Williams
Rock Boppin' Baby-Lorrie & Larry Collins
Heart Of Stone-The Rolling Stones

Good Morning!!!

..... bbb

Good morning Billy, well I have read articles that those download accelerators
don't do all that much to begin with, but it would be something that a person
would possibly go for if they thought they could get their downloads faster. I
could easily see someone get taken in by, with a promise like that.

The article also said, and a good point, if a person is looking for any kind of
programs these days, to do a search at cnet.com or download.com, both trusted
sites.  Searching for programs via google is really dangerous as this is where
people get these supposed malware removal tools that are actually the malware
itself.

Will

--- In billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com, "Puddleboy" <badboybacky@...> wrote:
>
> WoW!!! I don't think I would bite on a download accelerator anyway, as I think
my 'puter is fast enough.
>
> I have been getting all kinds of strange emails lately. One of them really
looked 'official'. It said that Hotmail needed to know my password or they would
close my account within 48 hours.
>
> Thanks for the warning!!
>
> ..... bbb
>
>
> >
> > I was just reading this afternoon about a new computer threat and only
mention it here, because of the fact it is a supposed 'download accelerator' 
that speeds up downloads of movies, music etc.  I can see some people thinking
this might be a good thing.  Of course when you download it, its not an
accelerator at all.  What it does instead, is blcoks your access to the internet
in your computer, except for access to this one Russian website,  and a page of
Russian text comes up on the screen.  Its what is known as a computer hijacker,
and it tells you that you have to purchase a program to remove this from your
system and regain your internet access. The only way to remove this is
reformatting your hard drive (unless you pay the 'ransom' to get the program
that removes the block.  Of course, antivirus companies are working on a fix to
remove it without paying or reformatting, but they haven't gotten this broken as
yet.
> >
> > Will
> >
>

Hi Lisanne, yes I have heard of spybot search and destroy and have used it
myself in the past.  Another program I have heard through a computer guy who
posts youtube videos, is called malwarebytes, if I have the name correctly. 
Apparently its quite good at removing spyware etc. from systems and I have seen
it recommended by at least 3 computer 'gurus'.

Will

--- In billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com, Lisanne Anderson <lisanne001@...> wrote:
>
> If you're worried about hijackers download Spybot Search And Destroy. It has
> a resident program that catches some of the worst offenders. I've been using
> it for quite some time. I've cleaned bad machines that other people gave up
> on with it.
>
> http://www.safer-networking.org/en/home/index.html
>
> Antivirus programs don't always work to remove malware.
>
> Regardless of whether one uses an anti-virus program or a malware detection
> program as well it's always wise to scan your whole system with these
> programs at least once a week.
>
> Lise
>
> > I was just reading this afternoon about a new computer threat and only
> > mention it here, because of the fact it is a supposed 'download accelerator'
> > that speeds up downloads of movies, music etc. I can see some people
> > thinking this might be a good thing. Of course when you download it, its not
> > an accelerator at all. What it does instead, is blcoks your access to the
> > internet in your computer, except for access to this one Russian website,
> > and a page of Russian text comes up on the screen. Its what is known as a
> > computer hijacker, and it tells you that you have to purchase a program to
> > remove this from your system and regain your internet access. The only way
> > to remove this is reformatting your hard drive (unless you pay the 'ransom'
> > to get the program that removes the block. Of course, antivirus companies
> > are working on a fix to remove it without paying or reformatting, but they
> > haven't gotten this broken as yet.
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

yep its always fun if you can safely check these emails.  This type is right up
there with the guy from Nigeria who wants you to help get some money to a
relative here and he will pay you a huge reward.  I have also had ones saying
its from a British lottery official very similar to the one you had.  Often it
goes on to say we just need your banking information, personal identification
etc. etc.  Yeah, sure I'll just email that right back right away lol.

I am getting a few that say it is from the IRS and an immediate payment is
needed for taxes owing.  Click this link to look at your account statement. 
That could possibly scare some people except in Canada we dont call the tax
department the IRS so I wouldn't owe the US IRS any money.  I guess they need to
get that only to US citizens to have any luck.

Will

--- In billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com, "Puddleboy" <badboybacky@...> wrote:
>
> I just got this which came with an attachment, which Hotmail blocked for my
safety, but I wouldn't open it anyway.
>
> You have won 1,000.000.00 Euro ( One Million Euro ),in the Euro millions Email
> Sweepstakes Program Corporation, held on the 27th of November 2009.In Brussels
> Belgium. We write to officially notify you of this award and to advise you to
> contact the processing office immediately. For the claim. the same message
> attached
>
> Contact Person, Mr. Kart Van Winski.
> TEL:+0032489-993-181 or 01132489-993-181
>

I just wrote about Malware Bytes before reading this.


>
> Hi Lisanne, yes I have heard of spybot search and destroy and have used it
myself in the past.  Another program I have heard through a computer guy who
posts youtube videos, is called malwarebytes, if I have the name correctly. 
Apparently its quite good at removing spyware etc. from systems and I have seen
it recommended by at least 3 computer 'gurus'.
>
> Will
>
>

There are all kinds of little tricks and tweaks one can do to speed up your
'puter. One of them is Firefox. I've now heard that Google Chrome is even
faster.

A good anti-malware program will detect the rogue malware programs. I use
Malware Bytes, though I don't run it often. I know this as Malware Bytes (which
is free) removed the rogue programs. One that I actually paid for!!

Another tweak that helps is to remove the access junk that piles up. I use Crap
Cleaner. It's free and speedy. I also dump the temp files, recycle bin and
defrag everynight before signing off.

Also good to brush and floss daily.

..... bbb


>
> Good morning Billy, well I have read articles that those download accelerators
don't do all that much to begin with, but it would be something that a person
would possibly go for if they thought they could get their downloads faster. I
could easily see someone get taken in by, with a promise like that.
>
> The article also said, and a good point, if a person is looking for any kind
of programs these days, to do a search at cnet.com or download.com, both trusted
sites.  Searching for programs via google is really dangerous as this is where
people get these supposed malware removal tools that are actually the malware
itself.
>
> Will
>
>

I get these quite often. I only posted that one here, as we were near the
subject.

Also, don't forget that these groups get spammed as well. PBR and SOS being
worse than the others. I catch it in time, as new memebers are moderated until
they prove themselves to be safe.

It's a little extra work to keep these groups spam-free, but it's worth it.

Did you really want to see videos of hot Iranian babes? I doubt there's any real
video at all. Most likely the link will give you a virus.

..... bbb


>
> yep its always fun if you can safely check these emails.  This type is right
up there with the guy from Nigeria who wants you to help get some money to a
relative here and he will pay you a huge reward.  I have also had ones saying
its from a British lottery official very similar to the one you had.  Often it
goes on to say we just need your banking information, personal identification
etc. etc.  Yeah, sure I'll just email that right back right away lol.
>
> I am getting a few that say it is from the IRS and an immediate payment is
needed for taxes owing.  Click this link to look at your account statement. 
That could possibly scare some people except in Canada we dont call the tax
department the IRS so I wouldn't owe the US IRS any money.  I guess they need to
get that only to US citizens to have any luck.
>
> Will
>
> --

I get these too (LOL)


>
> I LOVE the ones that claim they're from companies I do NOT have accounts
with.� (eBay, Chase, Citi, Paypal, etc.)� I laugh at them.
>
>
> ___________________
>
> I was wise enough to never grow up while fooling most people into believing I
had. - Margaret Mead
>
>
>

Thank You!!


>
>
> 2 great tunes on here.# 3 and # 5
>
> To: billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com
> From: badboybacky@...
> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 13:43:18 +0000
> Subject: [BBT] Tuesday First Five 12/1/09
>
>

Yep, firefox is good. I also tried Google Chrome and it seemed good too, but you
only need so many browsers.  I read the debate about Google Chrome vs Firefox,
Firefox is slightly slower than Google Chrome the first time its opened each
day, but it opens again quicker the next times until you shut down.

You know whats funny that I have often wondered about these lottery win emails? 
People fall for them and yet, if you never bought a British or a European
Lottery ticket, how would people expect that they won when they get this email? 
I guess they think somehow their name is tossed in or something.

I recently tried a good defrag program that is free and seems a bit better and a
little faster than the regular Windows defrag.  Its called Defraggler, which is
from the same people who do CCleaner. After running it, which just seemed faster
than the windows defrag, I noticed a bit of a speedup on my system.  So either
it was due for defragging or else it just does a better job, not sure.


Here is a link to it if anyone cares to give it a try.  After you click on
download there is a couple of boxes for paypal, thats for those who care to make
a donation to the creator, but its free to use.

http://www.piriform.com/defraggler

Will



--- In billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com, "Puddleboy" <badboybacky@...> wrote:
>
> There are all kinds of little tricks and tweaks one can do to speed up your
'puter. One of them is Firefox. I've now heard that Google Chrome is even
faster.
>
> A good anti-malware program will detect the rogue malware programs. I use
Malware Bytes, though I don't run it often. I know this as Malware Bytes (which
is free) removed the rogue programs. One that I actually paid for!!
>
> Another tweak that helps is to remove the access junk that piles up. I use
Crap Cleaner. It's free and speedy. I also dump the temp files, recycle bin and
defrag everynight before signing off.
>
> Also good to brush and floss daily.
>
> ..... bbb
>
>
> >
> > Good morning Billy, well I have read articles that those download
accelerators don't do all that much to begin with, but it would be something
that a person would possibly go for if they thought they could get their
downloads faster. I could easily see someone get taken in by, with a promise
like that.
> >
> > The article also said, and a good point, if a person is looking for any kind
of programs these days, to do a search at cnet.com or download.com, both trusted
sites.  Searching for programs via google is really dangerous as this is where
people get these supposed malware removal tools that are actually the malware
itself.
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
>

Being that I had to 'learn' Firefox, I'm not willing to try Google Chrome so
soon. I still kept IE 6 as my default browser, as I have a couple programs that
won't run on Firefox.

It's crazy. Why would anybody think they've won a European lottery? Since I've
been online, I've won several of them, and I haven't seen one dollar (or euro)
yet.

I want to try that Defraggler, so I think I'll click on that link now and see
what happens.

Thanks!!

..... bbb


>
> Yep, firefox is good. I also tried Google Chrome and it seemed good too, but
you only need so many browsers.  I read the debate about Google Chrome vs
Firefox, Firefox is slightly slower than Google Chrome the first time its opened
each day, but it opens again quicker the next times until you shut down.
>
> You know whats funny that I have often wondered about these lottery win
emails?  People fall for them and yet, if you never bought a British or a
European Lottery ticket, how would people expect that they won when they get
this email?  I guess they think somehow their name is tossed in or something.
>
> I recently tried a good defrag program that is free and seems a bit better and
a little faster than the regular Windows defrag.  Its called Defraggler, which
is from the same people who do CCleaner. After running it, which just seemed
faster than the windows defrag, I noticed a bit of a speedup on my system.  So
either it was due for defragging or else it just does a better job, not sure.
>
>
> Here is a link to it if anyone cares to give it a try.  After you click on
download there is a couple of boxes for paypal, thats for those who care to make
a donation to the creator, but its free to use.
>
> http://www.piriform.com/defraggler
>
> Will
>
>
>
> -

hi Lisanne, yes you can get too carried away with Ccleaner if you let it delete
too much stuff.  It seems that the way the program is set up is fine, but if
people tweak it and start to check boxes changing settings to do even more then
you can screw up the registry or like you said, delete some cookies and things
used to store passwords.

I think I read something about Defraggler, that it also defrags larger files,
whheras some programs only go through the smaller ones. Also I believe it
defrags the startup routine, or maybe the master boot record, so that the
startup is quicker.  This routine gets bogged down over the years with stuff in
it and some defrag progrsms dont touch it.  I used to use a fre program called
Auslogics disk defragmenter but find Defraggler to be a better free choice, and
even differnt PC magazine reviews have changed their preference to this.

At work we use a paid program called Diskeeper, but to me this defraggler seems
to do every bit as good for free.

Will


--- In billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com, Lisanne Anderson <lisanne001@...> wrote:
>
> CCleaner is fairly good, but I'd be careful about precisely what I'd allow
> it to remove. I have tons of passwords and the first time I used it it
> deleted them from Firefox. Luckily I back up my profile so I was able to
> restore them. Their registry cleaner, like many they attempt to remove
> entries that don't make sense to them. If they don't make sense to you I'd
> investigate further before allowing changes.
>
> A defrag problem that would move all the data to the front of the drive
> would be useful.If Defraggler did that it would be worth the price. Even a
> free alternative to the Windows defrag program is a waste of registry pace
> if it's not an improvement over it.
>
> Lise
>

The above mentioned album has been uploaded to the URL below
http://rapidshare.com/files/310835107/0ST___THE_WIZARD_OF_OZ.rar

I never had any problems with CCleaner. It did used to remove my passwords when
I was still on IE6, but since switching to Firefox, it hasn't removed any.

I didn't download the Deflaggler (or whatever it was called) as I couldn't find
it on the link provided. I did download that Registry Mechanic, but the free
version only tells you what your 'problems' are. You have to pay to get them
out. Just as I was ready to do that, I looked at some of their other products,
and saw something that Malwarebytes removed. I backed off.

I then ran a Malwarebytes scan and it found nothing.

..... bbb


>
> CCleaner is fairly good, but I'd be careful about precisely what I'd allow
> it to remove. I have tons of passwords and the first time I used it it
> deleted them from Firefox. Luckily I back up my profile so I was able to
> restore them. Their registry cleaner, like many they attempt to remove
> entries that don't make sense to them. If they don't make sense to you I'd
> investigate further before allowing changes.
>
> A defrag problem that would move all the data to the front of the drive
> would be useful.If Defraggler did that it would be worth the price. Even a
> free alternative to the Windows defrag program is a waste of registry pace
> if it's not an improvement over it.
>
> Lise
>

The above mentioned 2 CD set has been uploaded to the URL below
http://rapidshare.com/files/315042987/Beach_Boys-_USA_singles_colection.rar

Yes you probably got the link to that REgistry Mechanic from an ad on that page,
some paid programs advertise on there and thats the catch with them, they will
do a scan but to actually have it do anything you have to buy the paid program. 
I used one once to check for up to date drivers, and the program told me I had
some that needed updating but for that program to do it you hae to buy their
paid version.

Here is the link for defraggler from download.com, and download now is on the
left side, the big green button.  There is also a review below from I think PC
magazine.  Its a safe program so your malwarebytes should not have any issues
with it:

http://download.cnet.com/Defraggler/3000-2248_4-10752905.html?tag=mncol

hope that helps.
Will





--- In billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com, "Puddleboy" <badboybacky@...> wrote:
>
> I never had any problems with CCleaner. It did used to remove my passwords
when I was still on IE6, but since switching to Firefox, it hasn't removed any.
>
> I didn't download the Deflaggler (or whatever it was called) as I couldn't
find it on the link provided. I did download that Registry Mechanic, but the
free version only tells you what your 'problems' are. You have to pay to get
them out. Just as I was ready to do that, I looked at some of their other
products, and saw something that Malwarebytes removed. I backed off.
>
> I then ran a Malwarebytes scan and it found nothing.
>
> ..... bbb
>
>
> >
> > CCleaner is fairly good, but I'd be careful about precisely what I'd allow
> > it to remove. I have tons of passwords and the first time I used it it
> > deleted them from Firefox. Luckily I back up my profile so I was able to
> > restore them. Their registry cleaner, like many they attempt to remove
> > entries that don't make sense to them. If they don't make sense to you I'd
> > investigate further before allowing changes.
> >
> > A defrag problem that would move all the data to the front of the drive
> > would be useful.If Defraggler did that it would be worth the price. Even a
> > free alternative to the Windows defrag program is a waste of registry pace
> > if it's not an improvement over it.
> >
> > Lise
> >
>

yes, when I used even the new link I just send for defraggler, I see the
download now for Registry mechanic, but thats at the top in a box marked "ad
feedback" in small print above the recommended download.

On this new link you want the green 'download now' a little lower down on the
page, just under the name defraggler 1.14.159

Will

--- In billybeartrivia@yahoogroups.com, "Puddleboy" <badboybacky@...> wrote:
>
> I never had any problems with CCleaner. It did used to remove my passwords
when I was still on IE6, but since switching to Firefox, it hasn't removed any.
>
> I didn't download the Deflaggler (or whatever it was called) as I couldn't
find it on the link provided. I did download that Registry Mechanic, but the
free version only tells you what your 'problems' are. You have to pay to get
them out. Just as I was ready to do that, I looked at some of their other
products, and saw something that Malwarebytes removed. I backed off.
>
> I then ran a Malwarebytes scan and it found nothing.
>
> ..... bbb
>
>
> >
> > CCleaner is fairly good, but I'd be careful about precisely what I'd allow
> > it to remove. I have tons of passwords and the first time I used it it
> > deleted them from Firefox. Luckily I back up my profile so I was able to
> > restore them. Their registry cleaner, like many they attempt to remove
> > entries that don't make sense to them. If they don't make sense to you I'd
> > investigate further before allowing changes.
> >
> > A defrag problem that would move all the data to the front of the drive
> > would be useful.If Defraggler did that it would be worth the price. Even a
> > free alternative to the Windows defrag program is a waste of registry pace
> > if it's not an improvement over it.
> >
> > Lise
> >
>

The above mentioned album has been uploaded to the URL below
http://rapidshare.com/files/315076575/Pebbles_and_Bamm_Bamm_-_Singing_Songs_of_C\
hristmas.rar

I don't remember even seeing a link for the defraggler. There was something it
said to copy and paste, so I did, but that brought me back to same page.


>
> yes, when I used even the new link I just send for defraggler, I see the
download now for Registry mechanic, but thats at the top in a box marked "ad
feedback" in small print above the recommended download.
>
> On this new link you want the green 'download now' a little lower down on the
page, just under the name defraggler 1.14.159
>
> Will
>
>