Hello everyone, sorry if this is a rookie question.  Can I use another
mic preamp with the BR-900CD? (I've posted this on the BR-900CD group
as well) I'd like to play with different preamps to hear the
different "colors" or sounds I could get (I'm a saxophone
player). I guess I'm wondering if, by running my mic through, say, a
tube preamp, will I just end up using two preamps? How can I avoid
going through the internal Boss preamp? Maybe the internal preamp
doesn't start up if the BR-900 gets a signal through another preamp.

I've played around with preamps at my friend's studio and it's
interesting to hear how each different mic preamp will color the
sound. Then there's only hundreds of mics to choose from...

I had a report today that BR Explorer version 1.00 doesn't install on
some systems due to a missing "BORLNDMM.DLL" file. On further
investigation, I found that two files were missing from the
installation. I've uploaded a new zip file (version 1.01) to my web
site to correct this problem.

    http://www.geocities.com/sixtyfourguitars/BRX/index.html

If you already had borlndmm.dll and cc3250mt.dll in your
Windows\System32 folder, you probably had no trouble installing
version 1.00. In that case, there's no need to install 1.01. It is
exactly the same as 1.00 except for the two missing DLL files.

Please let me know if there any further issues.

  - 64Guitars

I had the same question on viewing the individual
tracks after they have been bounces so maybe I can go
back in an use the equalizer functions. Is this
possible? I find that when I use the "V" track button,
to obtain more tracks, I have a difficult time getting
all the tracks to play together again when I need to.
I eventually get there but I have to somehow turn the
dial and move the cursor to each track to get them
back again. Is there something I can do to do it
easier and more effective?
thanks

--- guitarman_nebr <guitarman_nebr@...> wrote:

> i read your bouncing article.  great stuff.
> i asked my question as a possibility only.  i have
> made many recordings
> on my BR-864, but had never tried much with the
> track to track
> bouncing.  eight tracks is usually enough for what i
> do.  i only
> recently thought of needing 10 tracks, so i thought
> about combining the
> drums and bass on one, and the acoustic and rhythym
> guitar on another
> to free up a couple tracks.
>
> i did not know i still had access to the individual
> tracks when
> bouncing as you suggested.  thank you so much for
> your answer.  i will
> try it as you suggest and let you know how it turned
> out.
>
> Lew
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





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Kempofist wrote:

> I had the same question on viewing the individual
> tracks after they have been bounces so maybe I can go
> back in an use the equalizer functions. Is this
> possible? I find that when I use the "V" track button,
> to obtain more tracks, I have a difficult time getting
> all the tracks to play together again when I need to.
> I eventually get there but I have to somehow turn the
> dial and move the cursor to each track to get them
> back again. Is there something I can do to do it
> easier and more effective?


The BR autoassigns V-tracks so you just need to be careful when doing
multiple takes, bounces and mastering to keep track of what's going
where. My solution to keeping track of where things are is simple: I
photocopied the track sheet in the manual and keep copious notes.

Keep in mind you don't have to accept the BR's default choices!!!

For instance let's say I have only tracks 1, 2, 3 and 4 recorded (1_V1,
2_V1, 3_V1, 4_V1) and that's my entire song. When I enter bounce mode to
do the final mixdown, the BR will ask what tracks to use and I choose 5
and 6...the BR defaults to picking V-track #2 (56_V2), even though
V-track #1 on tracks 5 and 6 has not been used yet. OK, let's say I
accept the use of V-track #2, now when I go to master mode the BR asks
what track and I pick 7 and 8...the BR defaults to picking V-track #3
(78_V3).

The BR's general concept of "housekeeping" seems to be that every time
you do a bounce or master you default to the next level of V-tracks
rather than staying on the level you are at. This DOES make sense in a
way. Let's say in my original example that after I finished the mix I
decided I'd really like to add some more parts to the song. Using
V-track #2 (56_V2) to hold the mix that leaves V-tracks #1 free on
tracks 5, 5, 7 and 8. When mastering, using V-track #3 leaves V-track #2
open on tracks 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 and 8 so if I wanted I could do three more
mixdowns and then choose my favorite later. Etc.

Hope this helps, it's hard to explain this stuff in text!!!!!

--
                                                    Brian Rost
                                                   Stargen, Inc.

**********************************************************************

--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Rost, Brian" <rost@s...> wrote:
>
> Keep in mind you don't have to accept the BR's default choices!!!
> For instance let's say I have only tracks 1, 2, 3 and 4 recorded
> (1_V1,2_V1, 3_V1, 4_V1) and that's my entire song. When I enter
> bounce mode to do the final mixdown, the BR will ask what tracks
> to use and I choose 5 and 6...the BR defaults to picking V-track
> #2 (56_V2), even though V-track #1 on tracks 5 and 6 has not been
> used yet.

I like to use v-track 8 for bounces. That way, when I go into the BR
Wave Converter or BR Explorer's Track Usage tab, it's easy to tell
which of the green boxes are bounced tracks. The original tracks start
at the top in v-track 1 and work down, while the bounced tracks are at
the bottom in v-track 8, clearly separated from the original tracks.

Of course, any available v-tracks can be used as the target of a
bounce, but I find that reserving v-track 8 for that purpose makes it
easier to create a WAV file, especially from an old backup, since I
don't have to rely on my (usually unreliable) memory to know which
v-tracks to convert.

  - 64Guitars

Firmware update version 1.02 for the BR-864 has been available for
some time from the Roland UK website. According to their FAQ, it
"improves the Song Optimize facility". I wondered if it includes the
fixes from the version 1.01 update (available from the Roland USA
website), and why version 1.02 only seems to be available from the
U.K. site. So I wrote to Roland U.K. Product Support and they replied
that version 1.02 does indeed have all of the 1.01 fixes. So, users
who still have version 1.00 in their BR-864 should be able to upgrade
directly to 1.02, and users who have version 1.01 can upgrade to 1.02
without losing the 1.01 fixes. They said that the reason 1.02 is not
available from the Roland USA website is simply that Roland USA hasn't
updated their site. I suppose this is believable since their BR Wave
Converter info page at
http://www.rolandus.com/products/details.asp?catid=1&subcatid=8&prodid=BR+Wave+C\
onverter+2%2E0
still says the Wave Converter will be available in August. Maybe they
fired their webmaster and forgot to hire a replacement. :-)

Those of you who upgraded from version 1.00 to version 1.01 may recall
that, after the update finished, it asked if you want to Initialize
All. It isn't clear why one might want to do an Initialize All after
upgrading, nor what the consequences might be (if any) should you
answer No to the prompt. So most of us answered Yes just to play it
safe. Unfortunately, if you had any User patches on your BR-864, the
Initialization would erase them permanently by over-writing them with
copies of the Preset patches. And there's no easy way to backup your
User patches before you upgrade. The only thing you can do is copy
each User patch, one-at-a-time, to the Song patch area then do a full
backup of your BR memory card. After the upgrade, you have to restore
from the backup and copy the saved User patches back from the Song
patch area to the User patch area.

This situation is even worse in the version 1.02 update since it never
ASKS if you want to Initialize All -- it INSISTS! When the update is
finished, you have to power off your 864 then power it back on. When
you do, you're prompted with "Initialize All?" and "Are You Sure?".
However, it won't accept the EXIT/NO key as an answer. The only answer
it seems to accept is the ENTER/YES key. So you have no choice but to
let it do a full initialize. This doesn't erase anything from the
memory card -- not even the two update files which you have to erase
yourself if you want to get rid of them -- but it will over-write all
your User patches. Of course, if you've never saved any patches to the
User area, your User patches were just copies of the Preset patches
anyway, so you have nothing to worry about. But if you HAVE saved
patches to the User area and you want to keep them, be sure to backup
your User patches as I've described above before you update to version
1.02. A normal backup won't help since it will only backup what's on
the memory card and the User patches aren't stored there -- only the
Song patches are stored on the memory card. So you must copy your User
patches to the Song area before you do a backup if you want to be able
to restore them after the update forces an Initialize All.

  - 64Guitars

What about going back to the original tracks, once
bounced to do more editing, i.e. equalizing, panning
etc? Once I switch "V" tracks I lose the tracks upon
playback. They are still there but somewhat hidden. I
have to play with the cursor(dial or arrows) in order
to try to get it back. I eventually get them back but
through a lengthy process. Is there a short cut or am
I doing something wrong?
thanks

--- sixtyfourguitars <sixtyfourguitars@...>
wrote:

> --- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Rost, Brian"
> <rost@s...> wrote:
> >
> > Keep in mind you don't have to accept the BR's
> default choices!!!
> > For instance let's say I have only tracks 1, 2, 3
> and 4 recorded
> > (1_V1,2_V1, 3_V1, 4_V1) and that's my entire song.
> When I enter
> > bounce mode to do the final mixdown, the BR will
> ask what tracks
> > to use and I choose 5 and 6...the BR defaults to
> picking V-track
> > #2 (56_V2), even though V-track #1 on tracks 5 and
> 6 has not been
> > used yet.
>
> I like to use v-track 8 for bounces. That way, when
> I go into the BR
> Wave Converter or BR Explorer's Track Usage tab,
> it's easy to tell
> which of the green boxes are bounced tracks. The
> original tracks start
> at the top in v-track 1 and work down, while the
> bounced tracks are at
> the bottom in v-track 8, clearly separated from the
> original tracks.
>
> Of course, any available v-tracks can be used as the
> target of a
> bounce, but I find that reserving v-track 8 for that
> purpose makes it
> easier to create a WAV file, especially from an old
> backup, since I
> don't have to rely on my (usually unreliable) memory
> to know which
> v-tracks to convert.
>
>  - 64Guitars
>
>
>
>
>




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--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, <kempofist@y...> wrote:
>
> What about going back to the original tracks, once
> bounced to do more editing, i.e. equalizing, panning
> etc? Once I switch "V" tracks I lose the tracks upon
> playback. They are still there but somewhat hidden. I
> have to play with the cursor(dial or arrows) in order
> to try to get it back. I eventually get them back but
> through a lengthy process. Is there a short cut or am
> I doing something wrong?

After a bounce, all v-tracks (except the bounce targets) are
automatically incremented to empty v-tracks so that you're ready to
add new tracks if desired. If you want to go back to your previous
v-tracks, you have to press the V-TRACK button and move the v-track
selector for each track back to the previously recorded v-track. You
select tracks with the cursor left & right keys, and you set the
v-track for the track using the TIME/VALUE wheel. Empty v-tracks
appear as empty boxes, while recorded v-tracks appear as filled-in
boxes. Don't forget to change the v-tracks on the bounce targets too.
Otherwise, you'll hear the bounce source tracks and the bounce target
tracks simultaneously.

The only shortcut you might want to use is the UNDO/REDO button. After
a bounce, you can press UNDO/REDO to restore the 864 to the state it
was in before the bounce. In other words, all of your v-tracks will be
restored to what they were, but you will also lose the result of the
bounce. If you were totally unsatisfied with the bounce and don't want
to keep it anyway, then UNDO/REDO will do what you want. The 864 only
supports one level of Undo, meaning you can only undo the last record
or edit function you performed. So make sure you don't do any more
recording or editing after the bounce if you think you might want to
undo it.

For a better understanding of v-tracks and bouncing, see my web page
on the subject at
http://www.geocities.com/sixtyfourguitars/BR864/V-Tracks_and_Bouncing.html

  - 64Guitars

After import a track in wav form i am unable to e-mail this track,any
suggestions?

Try yousendit.com. It's a free service that I've used a few times. You
send a file to their server. They send an e-mail to the recipient. He
goes to a link and downloads the file. Works great.

http://www.yousendit.com/

Oh, and hi, John! How have you been? Someday I might even send you
some drum tracks! I've been meaning to write a song about
procrastination, but I keep putting it off. LOL!

Frank

--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, John Rosencutter <rosencutter@g...>
wrote:
>
> A lot of internet providers or email providers place limits on the
size of
> files you can send through their service (usually around 5 megs).  I'm
> guessing your wave file is much larger than 5 megs.  I would look into a
> different way to send the file (maybe go on an instant messaging
program and
> send the file directly to the other person.).
>
> On 1/16/06, michael990667 <xgates1@b...> wrote:
> >
> > After import a track in wav form i am unable to e-mail this track,any
> > suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "I'm not trying to play the guitar, I'm trying to make music." -
Michael
> > Hedges
> >
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Roland is introducing the new BR-600 digital recorder at Winter NAMM
2006 which starts today in Anaheim, California. It looks like a
low-end replacement for the BR-864. Like the 864, the BR-600 has 8
tracks with 8 v-tracks on each, COSM effects, drum machine, and a
128MB Compact Flash card. The BR-600 also has vocal pitch correction,
built-in twin (stereo) microphones, and comes with a carrying case. It
looks like the 600 has 6 faders for 8 tracks, with tracks 1 through 4
each having their own faders, while tracks 5/6 and 7/8 have one fader
per pair.

I think the BR-600 will be a good choice for people who can't afford a
BR-900 and don't need a built-in CD drive. It also seems to be more
portable than the 900CD -- smaller, lighter, and runs on batteries (or
AC). Check it out at the Roland web site:

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?ObjectId=753&ParentId=110

By the way, you'll notice that the Roland US web site has had a major
face lift.

  - 64Guitars

I wonder what they mean by this: "beats can be programmed from the
velocity-sensitive pads"?

Bif




  In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "sixtyfourguitars"
<sixtyfourguitars@y...> wrote:
>
> Roland is introducing the new BR-600 digital recorder at Winter NAMM
> 2006 which starts today in Anaheim, California. It looks like a
> low-end replacement for the BR-864. Like the 864, the BR-600 has 8
> tracks with 8 v-tracks on each, COSM effects, drum machine, and a
> 128MB Compact Flash card. The BR-600 also has vocal pitch
correction,
> built-in twin (stereo) microphones, and comes with a carrying case.
It
> looks like the 600 has 6 faders for 8 tracks, with tracks 1 through
4
> each having their own faders, while tracks 5/6 and 7/8 have one
fader
> per pair.
>
> I think the BR-600 will be a good choice for people who can't
afford a
> BR-900 and don't need a built-in CD drive. It also seems to be more
> portable than the 900CD -- smaller, lighter, and runs on batteries
(or
> AC). Check it out at the Roland web site:
>
> http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.aspx?
ObjectId=753&ParentId=110
>
> By the way, you'll notice that the Roland US web site has had a
major
> face lift.
>
>  - 64Guitars
>

I'm relatively new to playing music through a computer although I love
the 864 for recording.Does anyone know of any good software that will
transpose the music files from an 864 into readable sheet music? And
is there any way to take a track that I play in to the 864 and convert
it to a midi file?

--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Bif" <bifster06@y...> wrote:
>
> I wonder what they mean by this: "beats can be programmed from the
> velocity-sensitive pads"?

The BR-600 has 12 velocity-sensitive pads that can be used to program
drum patterns. "Velocity-sensitive" means the harder you press, the
louder the sound. See these enlarged pictures from the Roland.com page
at http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/. The drum pads are the 12
blue buttons to the right.

    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/info_01L_L.jpg

    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/top_L.jpg

The BR-864 lacks velocity sensitive pads, but you can program drum
patterns in realtime by tapping on the six Track buttons (see pages
96-99 of the BR-864 Owner's Manual). And by pressing the Rhythm Pad
button, you can access an additional six drum sounds. You can change
the velocity of the drum sounds using fader 1. Not as convenient as
the BR-600's 12 velocity-sensitive pads but better than nothing.

Another interesting thing about the BR-600 is how thin it is -- less
than one inch! Roland US is calling it "The Ultimate Notebook Studio".
See this picture:

    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/intro_R_L.jpg

  - 64Guitars

Thanks 64Guitars.  That's great info.  I lurk around this group but
only own a BR-532.  I'm surprised I never heard one could program
drums in realtime on the BR-864 - a major selling point for me.  I
almost always use my Yamaha DD-50 digital drums thru an Edirol SD-20
MIDI module lined-in to my Boss (I hate gear talk, but they are my
tools) for drums.  No matter how primitive my drumming is, the sound
is infinitely more exciting and alive and satisfying than the Rythym
Guide drums.

Well, well, well.  That BR-600 looks mighty interesting.  Down, Bif!
Do you really NEED to spend more dough on stuff you can with some
effort do without?  I must say an 8-track would save me time,
though...

Again, thanks for the excellent info.

Bif







--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "sixtyfourguitars"
<sixtyfourguitars@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Bif" <bifster06@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder what they mean by this: "beats can be programmed from
the
> > velocity-sensitive pads"?
>
> The BR-600 has 12 velocity-sensitive pads that can be used to
program
> drum patterns. "Velocity-sensitive" means the harder you press, the
> louder the sound. See these enlarged pictures from the Roland.com
page
> at http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/. The drum pads are the
12
> blue buttons to the right.
>
>    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/info_01L_L.jpg
>
>    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/top_L.jpg
>
> The BR-864 lacks velocity sensitive pads, but you can program drum
> patterns in realtime by tapping on the six Track buttons (see pages
> 96-99 of the BR-864 Owner's Manual). And by pressing the Rhythm Pad
> button, you can access an additional six drum sounds. You can change
> the velocity of the drum sounds using fader 1. Not as convenient as
> the BR-600's 12 velocity-sensitive pads but better than nothing.
>
> Another interesting thing about the BR-600 is how thin it is -- less
> than one inch! Roland US is calling it "The Ultimate Notebook
Studio".
> See this picture:
>
>    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/intro_R_L.jpg
>
>  - 64Guitars
>

I'm relatively new to playing music through a computer although I love
the 864 for recording.Does anyone know of any good software that will
transpose the music files from an 864 into readable sheet music? And
is there any way to take a track that I play in to the 864 and convert
it to a midi file?

--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Bif" <bifster06@y...> wrote:
>
> Thanks 64Guitars.  That's great info.  I lurk around this group but
> only own a BR-532.  I'm surprised I never heard one could program
> drums in realtime on the BR-864 - a major selling point for me.  I
> almost always use my Yamaha DD-50 digital drums thru an Edirol SD-20
> MIDI module lined-in to my Boss (I hate gear talk, but they are my
> tools) for drums.  No matter how primitive my drumming is, the sound
> is infinitely more exciting and alive and satisfying than the Rythym
> Guide drums.

What is the purpose of the Edirol SD-20 in your setup? Do you prefer
its drum sounds over those in the DD-50? Otherwise, why not go
straight from the DD-50 to the BR-532?

Have you tried synchronizing the 532 with the DD-50 via MIDI? This can
easily be done and will save you from having to record the drums to a
track (or pair of tracks, since the drums are stereo) on the 532.
Instead, you would use the DD-50's built-in sequencer to record your
drum arrangement. When you press Play on the 532, the drum arrangement
will start playing on the DD-50 and you can record other instruments
on the 532 in perfect synchronization. When you press Stop on the 532,
the DD-50 also stops. When you press Zero on the 532, the DD-50's
sequencer is reset to the start of the arrangement. See pages 67-72 of
the BR-532 Owner's Manual for details.

I use the same technique with my Yamaha PSR-2100 keyboard. With MIDI
synch, I can record all of my keyboard tracks on the PSR-2100's
built-in 16-track sequencer so I never have to use any of the BR-864's
tracks for keyboard parts. When I do my final bounce, I plug the Line
Outs from the PSR-2100 into the Line Ins of the BR-864 and adjust the
Input Level to mix the keyboard tracks with everything else during the
bounce.

  - 64Guitars

A good program to transpose Br files to sheet music?  Try a music degree, buddy!

 

Wav files are completely different from MIDI files.  MIDI is simply a list of instructions for a generator to perform.  Waves are actual samples of music. 

 

Finale 2006 is a great program for around $350 (there are others, if you have $6000), but it will only turn MIDI files to sheet music.  You could also save a midi file as a WAV file with this, but not the other way around.  Sorry to always be the "glass is half empty" guy, but your hopes must end NOW!  What you desire is impossible.  You might as well ask for world peace, or a Porn free internet (who would want that?).  Why don't you ask Hitler to... I got nuthin' for that one.  Hope this is helpful!

Cheers!

JAson

colorado59er <colorado59er@...> wrote:

I'm relatively new to playing music through a computer although I love
the 864 for recording.Does anyone know of any good software that will
transpose the music files from an 864 into readable sheet music? And
is there any way to take a track that I play in to the 864 and convert
it to a midi file?

Sincerely,
Jason

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A good program to transpose Br files to sheet music?  Try a music degree, buddy!

 

Wav files are completely different from MIDI files.  MIDI is simply a list of instructions for a generator to perform.  Waves are actual samples of music. 

 

Finale 2006 is a great program for around $350 (there are others, if you have $6000), but it will only turn MIDI files to sheet music.  You could also save a midi file as a WAV file with this, but not the other way around.  Sorry to always be the "glass is half empty" guy, but your hopes must end NOW!  What you desire is impossible.  You might as well ask for world peace, or a Porn free internet (who would want that?).  Why don't you ask Hitler to... I got nuthin' for that one.  Hope this is helpful!

Cheers!

JAson

colorado59er <colorado59er@...> wrote:

I'm relatively new to playing music through a computer although I love
the 864 for recording.Does anyone know of any good software that will
transpose the music files from an 864 into readable sheet music? And
is there any way to take a track that I play in to the 864 and convert
it to a midi file?

Sincerely,
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Thanks 64Guitars.  That's great info.  I lurk around this group but
only own a BR-532.  I'm surprised I never heard one could program
drums in realtime on the BR-864 - a major selling point for me.  I
almost always use my Yamaha DD-50 digital drums thru an Edirol SD-20
MIDI module lined-in to my Boss (I hate gear talk, but they are my
tools) for drums.  No matter how primitive my drumming is, the sound
is infinitely more exciting and alive and satisfying than the Rythym
Guide drums.

Well, well, well.  That BR-600 looks mighty interesting.  Down, Bif! 
Do you really NEED to spend more dough on stuff you can with some
effort do without?  I must say an 8-track would save me time,
though...

Again, thanks for the excellent info.

Bif







--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "sixtyfourguitars"
<sixtyfourguitars@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Bif" <bifster06@y...> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder what they mean by this: "beats can be programmed from
the
> > velocity-sensitive pads"? 
>
> The BR-600 has 12 velocity-sensitive pads that can be used to
program
> drum patterns. "Velocity-sensitive" means the harder you press, the
> louder the sound. See these enlarged pictures from the Roland.com
page
> at http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/. The drum pads are the
12
> blue buttons to the right.
>
>    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/info_01L_L.jpg
>
>    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/top_L.jpg
>
> The BR-864 lacks velocity sensitive pads, but you can program drum
> patterns in realtime by tapping on the six Track buttons (see pages
> 96-99 of the BR-864 Owner's Manual). And by pressing the Rhythm Pad
> button, you can access an additional six drum sounds. You can change
> the velocity of the drum sounds using fader 1. Not as convenient as
> the BR-600's 12 velocity-sensitive pads but better than nothing.
>
> Another interesting thing about the BR-600 is how thin it is -- less
> than one inch! Roland US is calling it "The Ultimate Notebook
Studio".
> See this picture:
>
>    http://www.roland.com/products/en/BR-600/images/intro_R_L.jpg
>
>  - 64Guitars
>

--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "sixtyfourguitars"
<sixtyfourguitars@y...> wrote:

What is the purpose of the Edirol SD-20 in your setup? Do you prefer
> its drum sounds over those in the DD-50? Otherwise, why not go
> straight from the DD-50 to the BR-532?


    Yeah, the built-in sounds of the DD-50 are pretty bad compared to
the SD-20.  Would save a lot of track space though to do as you
suggest.  I may try it just for fun.  I find myself forever bouncing
on my BR-532 these days.  Used to pretty much get by fine with just
the 4 tracks.  No more.

Bif














>
> --- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Bif" <bifster06@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks 64Guitars.  That's great info.  I lurk around this group
but
> > only own a BR-532.  I'm surprised I never heard one could program
> > drums in realtime on the BR-864 - a major selling point for me.
I
> > almost always use my Yamaha DD-50 digital drums thru an Edirol SD-
20
> > MIDI module lined-in to my Boss (I hate gear talk, but they are
my
> > tools) for drums.  No matter how primitive my drumming is, the
sound
> > is infinitely more exciting and alive and satisfying than the
Rythym
> > Guide drums.
>
> What is the purpose of the Edirol SD-20 in your setup? Do you prefer
> its drum sounds over those in the DD-50? Otherwise, why not go
> straight from the DD-50 to the BR-532?
>
> Have you tried synchronizing the 532 with the DD-50 via MIDI? This
can
> easily be done and will save you from having to record the drums to
a
> track (or pair of tracks, since the drums are stereo) on the 532.
> Instead, you would use the DD-50's built-in sequencer to record your
> drum arrangement. When you press Play on the 532, the drum
arrangement
> will start playing on the DD-50 and you can record other instruments
> on the 532 in perfect synchronization. When you press Stop on the
532,
> the DD-50 also stops. When you press Zero on the 532, the DD-50's
> sequencer is reset to the start of the arrangement. See pages 67-72
of
> the BR-532 Owner's Manual for details.
>
> I use the same technique with my Yamaha PSR-2100 keyboard. With MIDI
> synch, I can record all of my keyboard tracks on the PSR-2100's
> built-in 16-track sequencer so I never have to use any of the BR-
864's
> tracks for keyboard parts. When I do my final bounce, I plug the
Line
> Outs from the PSR-2100 into the Line Ins of the BR-864 and adjust
the
> Input Level to mix the keyboard tracks with everything else during
the
> bounce.
>
>  - 64Guitars
>

-----Original Message-----
From: bossbr864@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bossbr864@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Jason Lefebvre
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 12:02 AM
To: bossbr864@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [bossbr864] Re: New BR-600 Digital Recorder

Seems like a neat little piece of gear.  No XLRs though.  That's a no-go for me.  Though I do like the stereo onboard mics and the pitch correcter. (for a music major, I suck at singing and playing music... I just like the pretty little dots on the page)

 

It's going to fail, I think...

 

Jason

--- In bossbr864@yahoogroups.com, "Bif" <bifster06@y...> wrote:
>
>    Yeah, the built-in sounds of the DD-50 are pretty bad compared to
> the SD-20.  Would save a lot of track space though to do as you
> suggest.  I may try it just for fun.  I find myself forever bouncing
> on my BR-532 these days.  Used to pretty much get by fine with just
> the 4 tracks.  No more.

You can still use the SD-20 with the MIDI-synch technique I described
earlier. Just connect the Line Outs from the SD-20 to the Line Ins on
the BR-532 and enable the Audio Sub Mix (see page 72 of the BR-532
Owner's Manual) so you can monitor the sound from the SD-20 along with
your BR-532 tracks.

  - 64Guitars