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an ok read so far from Olaf Stapleton's "Odd John":
http://www.gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601111h.html
great little section-ha!


---
I once asked John how his philosophical researches were progressing. His answer
is worth recording. "Philosophy," he said, "is really very helpful to the
growing mind, but it's terribly disappointing too. At first I thought I'd found
the mature human intelligence at work at last. Reading Plato, and Spinoza, and
Kant, and some of the modern realists too, I almost felt I had come across
people of my own kind. I walked in step with them. I played their game with a
sense that it called out powers that I had never exercised before. Sometimes I
couldn't follow them. I seemed to miss some vital move. The exhilaration of
puzzling over these critical points, and feeling one had met a real master mind
at last! But as I went on from philosopher to philosopher and browsed around all
over the place, I began to realize the shocking truth that these critical points
were not what I thought they were, but just outrageous howlers. It had seemed
incredible that these obviously well-developed minds could make simple mistakes;
and so I had respectfully dismissed the possibility, and looked for some
profound truth. But oh my God, I was wrong! Howler after howler! Sometimes a
philosopher's opponents spot his howlers, and are frightfully set up with their
own cleverness. But most of them never get spotted at all, so far as I can
discover. Philosophy is an amazing tissue of really fine thinking and
incredible, puerile mistakes. It's like one of those rubber 'bones' they give
dogs to chew, damned good for the mind's teeth, but as food--no bloody good at
all."

a chuckle and a pass of gas wind frown-peppered with a fear of aspertame sums up
mine.

--- In brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com, Fred Rinne <fredrinne@...> wrote:
>
> Yah- philosophy sounds great but ten minutes later I can't remember one
fucking thing. My pet peeve is that they will take ten chapters to say basically
that you don't miss your water 'til your well runs dry.
>
> --- On Sun, 4/29/12, agenerak <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> From: agenerak <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [brutalsfx] on philosophy
> To: brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 9:32 AM
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> great little section-ha!
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> ---
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> I once asked John how his philosophical researches were progressing. His
answer is worth recording. "Philosophy," he said, "is really very helpful to the
growing mind, but it's terribly disappointing too. At first I thought I'd found
the mature human intelligence at work at last. Reading Plato, and Spinoza, and
Kant, and some of the modern realists too, I almost felt I had come across
people of my own kind. I walked in step with them. I played their game with a
sense that it called out powers that I had never exercised before. Sometimes I
couldn't follow them. I seemed to miss some vital move. The exhilaration of
puzzling over these critical points, and feeling one had met a real master mind
at last! But as I went on from philosopher to philosopher and browsed around all
over the place, I began to realize the shocking truth that these critical points
were not what I thought they were, but just outrageous howlers. It had seemed
incredible that these
>  obviously well-developed minds could make simple mistakes; and so I had
respectfully dismissed the possibility, and looked for some profound truth. But
oh my God, I was wrong! Howler after howler! Sometimes a philosopher's opponents
spot his howlers, and are frightfully set up with their own cleverness. But most
of them never get spotted at all, so far as I can discover. Philosophy is an
amazing tissue of really fine thinking and incredible, puerile mistakes. It's
like one of those rubber 'bones' they give dogs to chew, damned good for the
mind's teeth, but as food--no bloody good at all."
>

Damn funny, but a cop out, it's hardly an insight to notice fiction isn't fact.
Abstraction is never the thing itself; although, try telling that to a
scientist.

Overcoming abstraction's ten minute amnesia is aided by repeat exposure, first
read source-texts or hear interviews with the philosopher, then brush up with
Will Durant's "The Story of Philosophy" (and take notes on handmade velum.)
Extend by connecting to readings in history, literature, and science. Apply
through reflection on daily dealings with mirror and other.

Durant points out that Aristotle mis-characterized the human psyche as deductive
rather than inductive. Even still, secular discourse keeps itself to the
Logic=Reason fallacy despite machines proving more adept at the drudgery of
logic, the least of our reasoning faculties, a corner for capitalists to secret
themselves.  Belief in logic, is understandable but gutless, chaos scares the
shit out of us but it's clearly bad faith yielding philosophies of creative
destruction and collateral loss under the guise of stability, equity, and
control. Quantity and logic are just the latest religion, computer and lens the
new crozier and miter. Looks like scientists are already summoning their first
Council of Nicea
http://tinyurl.com/8xo9q3x

From Durant...
What was religion to the Greek philosophers?
Aristotle- born of wonder, it finds expression in myth
Epicureans- born of fear and ignorance, it seeks protection
Euhemerists- born of heroism, it is cultural memory
Stoics- born of some universal, transcultural spermatikos logos

"To live alone one must be a beast or a god, says Aristotle. Leaving out the
third case: one must be both... a philosopher."
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Flaubert
"As if the soul's fullness didn't sometimes overflow into the emptiest of
metaphors, for no one, ever, can give the exact measure of his needs, his
apprehensions, or his sorrows; and human speech is like a cracked cauldron on
which we bang out tunes that make bears dance, when we want to move the stars to
pity."

"I go from exasperation to a state of collapse, then I recover and go from
prostration to Fury, so that my average state is one of being annoyed." Two
weeks before his death, Flaubert told his niece, "Sometimes I think I'm
liquefying like an old Camembert."



--- In brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com, agenerak <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> a chuckle and a pass of gas wind frown-peppered with a fear of aspertame sums
up mine.
>
> --- In brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com, Fred Rinne <fredrinne@> wrote:
> >
> > Yah- philosophy sounds great but ten minutes later I can't remember one
fucking thing. My pet peeve is that they will take ten chapters to say basically
that you don't miss your water 'til your well runs dry.
> >
> > --- On Sun, 4/29/12, agenerak <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: agenerak <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [brutalsfx] on philosophy
> > To: brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 9:32 AM
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> > http://www.gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601111h.html
> >
> > great little section-ha!
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> >
> > I once asked John how his philosophical researches were progressing. His
answer is worth recording. "Philosophy," he said, "is really very helpful to the
growing mind, but it's terribly disappointing too. At first I thought I'd found
the mature human intelligence at work at last. Reading Plato, and Spinoza, and
Kant, and some of the modern realists too, I almost felt I had come across
people of my own kind. I walked in step with them. I played their game with a
sense that it called out powers that I had never exercised before. Sometimes I
couldn't follow them. I seemed to miss some vital move. The exhilaration of
puzzling over these critical points, and feeling one had met a real master mind
at last! But as I went on from philosopher to philosopher and browsed around all
over the place, I began to realize the shocking truth that these critical points
were not what I thought they were, but just outrageous howlers. It had seemed
incredible that these
> >  obviously well-developed minds could make simple mistakes; and so I had
respectfully dismissed the possibility, and looked for some profound truth. But
oh my God, I was wrong! Howler after howler! Sometimes a philosopher's opponents
spot his howlers, and are frightfully set up with their own cleverness. But most
of them never get spotted at all, so far as I can discover. Philosophy is an
amazing tissue of really fine thinking and incredible, puerile mistakes. It's
like one of those rubber 'bones' they give dogs to chew, damned good for the
mind's teeth, but as food--no bloody good at all."
> >
>

This place is clearing out a bunch of gear: P A speakers & amps, mixers, tons of
cable, patchbays, mics and stands, etc. Lots of other interesting things. I got
a metal detector. They're open till 6pm today and will be open next weekend.
Here's the address:
3075 17th Street, SF

6 - 8pm
Me and Jesse Jackson

http://radiovalencia.fm/

Life questions?
email Jesse at corevida879fm@...

Greg Garbage's new tape lopping prejoct

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sviWllyI_KM
Black Thread 4/27/12 Bleakhaus

> Damn funny, but a cop out, it's hardly an insight to notice fiction isn't
fact.

-as philosophy is often objective print pounding "fact"; this book is just an
opinion held by a character within an English philosopher's pen driving a story
of an anti hero.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_Stapledon  /*:}

>extend: by connecting to readings in history, literature, and science. Apply
through reflection on daily dealings with mirror and other.

-which if anyone can do without an opinion from an outside (clever, educated,
biased) foundation of "deceitful" printintellect. i have always relied on
deepest conclusions by the easiest of historically interested (Howard Zinn
sympathetic) sources, placed handily, the myriad taint held mirror of the
dueling 'self'.
maybe a peer or two will step in objectively. the best way to see human
behavior, and indelibly note it, is to a)travel with a large group, often.
b)live with revolving different groups over 30 years.
  philosophical opinions auto-edit themselves observing flimflam to power grabs
in miniscule with self cooking packets of anthro-digestible repulsion-ecstacy.
see my autobiographidegradible soon to be (un?)published book "Glameggs & Hammer
of Nietzsche's Truthnest: A Parallel Error Manual". regardless, the historical
snippets you pasted in this forum are chew toys of special textures pushing for
public nudity truths & regularity. /*:}



> Overcoming abstraction's ten minute amnesia is aided by repeat exposure, first
read source-texts or hear interviews with the philosopher, then brush up with
Will Durant's "The Story of Philosophy" (and take notes on handmade velum.)
Extend by connecting to readings in history, literature, and science. Apply
through reflection on daily dealings with mirror and other.
>
> Durant points out that Aristotle mis-characterized the human psyche as
deductive rather than inductive. Even still, secular discourse keeps itself to
the Logic=Reason fallacy despite machines proving more adept at the drudgery of
logic, the least of our reasoning faculties, a corner for capitalists to secret
themselves.  Belief in logic, is understandable but gutless, chaos scares the
shit out of us but it's clearly bad faith yielding philosophies of creative
destruction and collateral loss under the guise of stability, equity, and
control. Quantity and logic are just the latest religion, computer and lens the
new crozier and miter. Looks like scientists are already summoning their first
Council of Nicea
> http://tinyurl.com/8xo9q3x
>
> From Durant...
> What was religion to the Greek philosophers?
> Aristotle- born of wonder, it finds expression in myth
> Epicureans- born of fear and ignorance, it seeks protection
> Euhemerists- born of heroism, it is cultural memory
> Stoics- born of some universal, transcultural spermatikos logos
>
> "To live alone one must be a beast or a god, says Aristotle. Leaving out the
third case: one must be both... a philosopher."
> -Friedrich Nietzsche
>
> Flaubert
> "As if the soul's fullness didn't sometimes overflow into the emptiest of
metaphors, for no one, ever, can give the exact measure of his needs, his
apprehensions, or his sorrows; and human speech is like a cracked cauldron on
which we bang out tunes that make bears dance, when we want to move the stars to
pity."
>
> "I go from exasperation to a state of collapse, then I recover and go from
prostration to Fury, so that my average state is one of being annoyed." Two
weeks before his death, Flaubert told his niece, "Sometimes I think I'm
liquefying like an old Camembert."
>
>
>
> --- In brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com, agenerak <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > a chuckle and a pass of gas wind frown-peppered with a fear of aspertame
sums up mine.
> >
> > --- In brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com, Fred Rinne <fredrinne@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yah- philosophy sounds great but ten minutes later I can't remember one
fucking thing. My pet peeve is that they will take ten chapters to say basically
that you don't miss your water 'til your well runs dry.
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 4/29/12, agenerak <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: agenerak <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: [brutalsfx] on philosophy
> > > To: brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Sunday, April 29, 2012, 9:32 AM
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> > >       an ok read so far from Olaf Stapleton's "Odd John":
> > >
> > > http://www.gutenberg.net.au/ebooks06/0601111h.html
> > >
> > > great little section-ha!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > >
> > > I once asked John how his philosophical researches were progressing. His
answer is worth recording. "Philosophy," he said, "is really very helpful to the
growing mind, but it's terribly disappointing too. At first I thought I'd found
the mature human intelligence at work at last. Reading Plato, and Spinoza, and
Kant, and some of the modern realists too, I almost felt I had come across
people of my own kind. I walked in step with them. I played their game with a
sense that it called out powers that I had never exercised before. Sometimes I
couldn't follow them. I seemed to miss some vital move. The exhilaration of
puzzling over these critical points, and feeling one had met a real master mind
at last! But as I went on from philosopher to philosopher and browsed around all
over the place, I began to realize the shocking truth that these critical points
were not what I thought they were, but just outrageous howlers. It had seemed
incredible that these
> > >  obviously well-developed minds could make simple mistakes; and so I had
respectfully dismissed the possibility, and looked for some profound truth. But
oh my God, I was wrong! Howler after howler! Sometimes a philosopher's opponents
spot his howlers, and are frightfully set up with their own cleverness. But most
of them never get spotted at all, so far as I can discover. Philosophy is an
amazing tissue of really fine thinking and incredible, puerile mistakes. It's
like one of those rubber 'bones' they give dogs to chew, damned good for the
mind's teeth, but as food--no bloody good at all."
> > >
> >
>

I have been having an awful series of 80's flashbacks. Some are memories, some
are idealist ways of thinking (junk bonds and cocaine).

All these bad ideas swirling around are played out to 80's synth pop songs.

I was pretty sure I hated this type of music, but after revisiting that crap in
the midst of becoming middle aged, I found some commonplace with riffs and song
parts I'd come up with and shelved over the years. They never fit in anywhere
but weren't garbage.

Now I'm sort of interested in finishing them.

Anyone interested in doing some synth pop stuff?  Yuck, I know. Almost a sin to
post it here.

But I'm a sinner and I'm drunk at work today, so I don't even give a damn about
my own preferences.

Of course whatever recxordings I put together will have to run into some kind of
trouble, so I'm not talking kylie minogue here.  Like a car crash corpse of
kylie minogue singing in the waiting line to hell. That would be fun.

Anyone out there on my bad trip?

I've been watching too much Dance Party USA lately. I'm sure someone else on
here is guilty of the same.

Mr. Locomotion


Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

this is a riot read! real protests can be dismissed today. nothing to see.

http://scottrossi.tumblr.com/post/22184158717/notes-from-an-occupation-17-dolore\
s-park-ruckus

http://www.ybca.org/whisper-scream-discovering-andrzej-zulawski

especially:
May 6, 2012 2:00pm
POSSESSION
New 35mm print!
In this thriller about a marital breakup set in an anxious Berlin divided by the
Wall, Anna (Isabelle Adjani) and Mark (Sam Neill) veer from public screaming
matches to sudden acts of violence and horror.

PS: she fucks the shit out of the alien and aborts with milk.

some brutal sound effecting hits mainstream:
http://youtu.be/Va48ajp1drU

bag of culprit:
https://secure.flickr.com/photos/ben-naden/5596991338/
http://www.starfish.ch/Fotos/crustaceans-Gliederfuesser/mantis-Heuschreckenkrebs\
e/Odontodactylus-scyllarus3.jpg
http://www.starfish.ch/underwater-foto/Cebu-photos.html

so helpful:
http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/48717/how-to-be-a-r\
eality-star-and-hasten-in-the-end-of-american-civilization

get it together birdman, we are the law, ridiculous or not:
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/02/travel/faa-bird-strike-video/index.html

This is so neat! Human voices on Titan and Venus-

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/340449/title/Introducing_Sounds_on_di\
stant_worlds

wow

last night's SHAMAN movie was fucking insane. hope some of you all get to see
some of this fest. yesterday might have been the rarest of them all, not shown
in the US ever. Mango the SNL monkey vs Iain Banks "The Wasp Factory" & some
fast speed Milo Minara human art thrown in there. manic maximum.

those of you not seeing this incredible festival, revisit the shitty sf movie
Avaturd with me will you?
http://youtu.be/uJarz7BYnHA


--- In brutalsfx@yahoogroups.com, agenerak <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.ybca.org/whisper-scream-discovering-andrzej-zulawski
>
> especially:
> May 6, 2012 2:00pm
> POSSESSION
> New 35mm print!
> In this thriller about a marital breakup set in an anxious Berlin divided by
the Wall, Anna (Isabelle Adjani) and Mark (Sam Neill) veer from public screaming
matches to sudden acts of violence and horror.
>
> PS: she fucks the shit out of the alien and aborts with milk.
>

http://www.theawl.com/2012/05/roman-emperor-deaths

Emperor deaths! A stepdown from laureled God I guess.

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