I'll agree with you about Dream Theater. Although I'm not really into
their music, they're very talented. But when you start comparing Pearl
Jam to Zeppelin, well...that's just nonsense.

And as for there always being boy bands and female singers who are only
up there for their looks, it is much, MUCH, more prevalent today than
decades of past. The Carpenters wouldn't even be signed to a major
label today because even though she had an incredible voice, Karen
Carpenter was no looker like that no-talent bimbo, Brittany Spears. You
take 1 example and try to show me that things have always been the
same. Well I'm not buying it. Times have changed...and not for the better.


Greg



DKriel@... wrote:
>
> Frank Sinatra was a boy singer. He was signed because he was cute. He
> didn't become a great singer till quite a few years later. The music
> business has always done that. Always.
>
> Go back and look at the top ten from any year from the late 60s on and
> see how much good music there was on the radio then. Go ahead.
>
> Music is just as good and bad as it has always been. 5% or so remain
> in the public conciousness for years, the rest either vanishes, or
> shows up on late night sales shows for people who only want to
> remember the music that existed from when they were 15-22.
>
> The bands from the 60s that are remembered are remembered because they
> made good music. The crap is forgotten. And there was an awful lot of
> crap.
>
> Some good bands from the last decade or so ...
>
> I said when their first record came out that Pearl Jam was in it for
> the long haul. They were a band that would be around for decades.
> Friends looked at me like I was crazy. They are the Led Zeppelin of
> their generation, although, unlike Led Zep, they actually write their
> own songs rather than steal old blues songs and claim them for their
> own. It took Zep three records before they put out a record that was
> all their own songs.
>
> As for where are the Neal Pearts and Randy Rhodes ... look to the
> neo-prog bands. I hate them, but Dream Theatre are brilliant. Look at
> Tool, their drummer is Neal Peart good. Both have been around for a
> bit (10-15 years) but especially Tool continue to put out astounding
> music. Some of the best metal and prog ever ... ever.
>
> Also, music is cyclical. Lately music has leaned toward the song,
> rather than the player. That will change as tastes change.
>
> Writing off modern music is foolish. You may not like it for whatever
> reason, but to say that music was better anytime. naw ... music has
> always sucked. Always. Go look at the charts for the evidence. There
> have always been boy bands, there have always been chick singers who
> are more there for their looks than their talent, there have always
> been cute boys for the girls to freak out over.
>
> There is good music out there, but with the "music was better then"
> attitude, you won't hear it even if it is played for you, since it
> doesn't sound like the music from back then.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gregor22@... <mailto:gregor22%40pacbell.net>
> To: chameleons@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chameleons%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 9:19 PM
> Subject: [chameleons] The State of Music...Today
>
> Your examples, which are from previous decades, only underscore my
> point. Where are some examples of your brilliant music from NEW BANDS
> of today--music that speaks to an entire generation as Bob Dylan's once
> did--bands that will be played on the radio for years to come and
> ultimately deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? Show me the
> Led Zeppelin's of today.
>
> And yes, there's some good music out there, but in general music is not
> of the same standard as it was in some previous decades like the 60's,
> 70's and 80's. And yes, there was some crap back then too, especially
> the 80's. But there were also great bands to come out of that era that
> were a part of pop radio.
>
> Nowadays, these bands on pop radio are signed because they sound like
> everyone else. But that's just part of the problem. Bands nowadays can
> barely play their instruments. How many great guitar players or
> drummers have you heard about in the last 15 years? Zero. Where are
> the Randy Rhodes or the Neal Pearts of today? They don't exist because
> bands nowadays are more interested in signing record contracts and
> picking up groupies. IMO, there hasn't been a really great new band on
> pop radio since Nirvana.
>
> But I will agree with you that if you look, you can find some GOOD bands
> out there. Stellastarr, The 69 Eyes, and some others have been nice
> discoveries.
>
> greg
>
> DKriel@... <mailto:DKriel%40AOL.COM> wrote:
> >
> > I like to remind people when they say things like this ...
> >
> > Kajagoogoo had more #1 hits than The Chameleons (1)
> >
> > Starland Vocal Band had more #1 hits than Creedence Clearwater Revival
> > and Jimi Hendrix combined (1)
> >
> > Music has always sucked, in any era. People our age said the same
> > thing about the music we listened to in our teens and twenties.
> >
> > There is brilliant music out there ... There always has been brilliant
> > music out there, but you have to go looking for it. Never stop
> > looking, and remember, the music changes, so should you.
> >
> > K
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gregor22@... <mailto:gregor22%40pacbell.net>
> <mailto:gregor22%40pacbell.net>
> > To: chameleons@yahoogroups.com <mailto:chameleons%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:chameleons%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sat, 18 Nov 2006 11:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: [chameleons] OT-Bell Hollow, Blacklist, Catpeople
> >
> >
> > This is exactly how I feel about today's music. And if these kids do
> > say something worthwhile, it's hidden under the crappy music that
> > accompanies it.
> >
> > .
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