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Re: [charlesives] Mahler


On Aug 26, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Frank Camiola wrote:

> Well, as I posted on Anne's Musicfriends group, I have just
> "discovered" Mahler. It's taken me a *LONG* time, and I never
> thought it would happen, but I have finally come around and joined
> the club (as they say).

I made that discovery a couple of years ago. If you haven't heard the
3rd, you must; it is the ne plus ultra. The 1st and 4th are somewhat
shorter, and, perhaps, simpler. My first real foray was the first
Bernstein recordings, in a box set. It was not the last. Alas...


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Very little Ives talk on this post, so for that I apologize in advance.... Well, as I posted on Anne's Musicfriends group, I have just "discovered" Mahler....
Frank Camiola
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Aug 26, 2007
5:34 pm

... I made that discovery a couple of years ago. If you haven't heard the 3rd, you must; it is the ne plus ultra. The 1st and 4th are somewhat shorter, and,...
Kirk McElhearn
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Aug 26, 2007
5:51 pm

From: "Kirk McElhearn" <kirkmc@...> ... Thanks Kirk. I'm sure I will end up getting 'em all. Have you heard either Boulez, the new Abbado, or Chailly's...
Frank Camiola
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Aug 26, 2007
6:47 pm

... I very much like the Boulez 3rd, and I have the Chailly but I don't know it well enough. The Bernstein is very good, and the Tilson- Thomas as well. Kirk ...
Kirk McElhearn
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Aug 26, 2007
6:57 pm

Two Ives symphonies at the Proms this year in London. First, there was the Fourth conducted by dynamo David Robertson. Robertson is brilliant, the kind of...
Anne Ozorio
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Aug 26, 2007
8:01 pm

Yes, Anne - was at the 4th - trying still to digest it - probably will come to the conclusion it was great - included the theremin part! - sat near a chap who...
anthony cole
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Aug 26, 2007
9:56 pm

Anne, Please forgive my ignorance, but what are The Proms? The first I had heard of it was on a recent Pipedreams broadcast called Pipes at The Proms. It...
Russ Jenkins
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Sep 7, 2007
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Proms = Promenade Concerts - started 110 years ago by conductor Sir Henry Wood and taken over by the BBC 80 years ago. Summer series of concerts held mainly...
anthony cole
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Thank you Tony. Russ anthony cole <tony@...> wrote: Proms = Promenade Concerts - started 110 years ago by conductor Sir Henry Wood and taken over...
Russ Jenkins
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Sep 8, 2007
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Subject: Re: [charlesives] Ives at The Proms ... Thanks. THAT I did not know. F...
Frank Camiola
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Sep 8, 2007
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... The new Abbado, meaning the 2007 one he's doing with the Lucerne Festival Orchestra, was a Prom this week.. You can still hear it online on demand on the...
Anne Ozorio
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Aug 26, 2007
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This is awesome news Frank... In regards to the Mahler 3rd... I have a broadcast of this work that is mind blowing...I have heard many great M3's, but the...
toddwinkels
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Aug 26, 2007
8:44 pm

From: "toddwinkels" <toddwinkels@...> ... many great M3's, but the energy of this performance is incredible and ... Thanks a bunch for the post and link,...
Frank Camiola
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Aug 27, 2007
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Hello Frank, I love the 2nd Kaplan VPO M2, and his earlier interpetation was my first Mahler recording many years back. I've heard a critic say this is what a...
toddwinkels
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Aug 27, 2007
3:13 pm

In regards to Mahler, I hereby toss in a little something that members might find interesting (or boring). I am a composer, these years I have set/am setting...
Random Particle
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Aug 28, 2007
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... studied for performance an Ives symphony. I believe he was planning to perform it but died before he could do so. ........... That's from the notorious...
Anne Ozorio
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Aug 28, 2007
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... many great M3's, but the energy of this performance is incredible and I go back to it often. Here is the concert info and links below: ...
Frank Camiola
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... have a ... Hi Frank, I'm sorry about this, it looks like I'll have to re-upload the performance...tomorrow I will have a new link for you! Take care, Todd...
toddwinkels
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Aug 28, 2007
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Frank, I finished re-posting the Haitink Mahler 3rd (live, from the Mahlerfeest 1995). http://rs201tl.rapidshare.com/files/51874821/haitinkM31.rar ...
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Aug 28, 2007
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Ah, the strange D. Wooldridge - I actually did meet him, Anne, on November 7th 1974 to be precise - and I can be precise after all these years because that was...
anthony cole
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Aug 28, 2007
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... Wow ! This is amazxng stuff ! Thanks so much. Wooldridge was such an odd person, a mix of plausibilty and unreality. I wouldn't be surprised if he...
Anne Ozorio
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Aug 28, 2007
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Subject: Re: [charlesives] Mahler ... Doesn't Jan Swafford make this claim as well in his Ives book (if I recall)? F...
Frank Camiola
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Aug 28, 2007
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The claim starts with Ives himself. In the Memos, he wrote of the Third Symphony: "While this was being copied in, I think, Tam's office, Gustav Mahler saw it...
David O'Dette
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Aug 28, 2007
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... Mahler had performed the work, nor does there seem to be any documentation of a performance, though Mahler may have intended one. He died in May 1911....
Anne Ozorio
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Aug 28, 2007
4:50 pm

Well actually it's in Ives "Memos" - Charley had written something like: when the 3rd symphony was being copied by the Tams agency (1910), Mahler saw it -...
anthony cole
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Aug 28, 2007
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The fourth and final volume of Henry-Louis de la Grange's massive biography of Mahler is currently listed on Amazon.com as due to be released in January, and I...
David O'Dette
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Aug 28, 2007
5:02 pm

... biography of Mahler is currently listed on Amazon.com as due to be released in January, and I have already ordered a copy. Since the preceding volume...
Anne Ozorio
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Aug 28, 2007
8:44 pm

... I wish they weren't so darned expensive, and that the first volume were still available. Is it correct that he wrote them in English, not in French? Kirk ...
Kirk McElhearn
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Aug 28, 2007
9:07 pm

... He is completely bilingual, but the present volume was written in English. About 7 years ago OUP was doing cheap deals. If you bought Vol 2 and 3...
Anne Ozorio
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Aug 28, 2007
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... From: Anne Ozorio <anne.ozorio@...> ... that Charles Ives sincerely believed it, whoever it was told him, and that cheered him up considerably....
Douglas Jordon
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