Hi all

This is just a short posting to introduce myself to the group. I am
not in any way an expert on Ives or any composer. Indeed I admit
that the first time I came across the music of Ives was when my
daughter included the Nxos CD - Symphony No. 3 including Washinton's
Birthday, The Unanswered Question, Central Park in the Dark, Country
Band March and Overture and March '1776' - in my Christmas stocking
this year. I have been listening almost non stop since. It is truly
a wonderful introduction to Ives and I look forward to buying
further recordings. I mention the Naxos CD but I am not sure if this
is available on the US side of the Atlantic. I am writing from
Ireland and have the feeling this group is probably mostly American.

That's enough withering on for now. I look forward to following the
postings here in 2004 and beyond. Happy New Year to all!

Gerry Hancock

The Naxos second Sinclair CD is on amazon.com and available in the
states.  Notice that our member super-reviewer Bob Zeidler has
included his own evaluation.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/B00007FKQM/qid=1073153683/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_11/102-5755443-7979355?
v=glance&s=classical#product-details

I am sure everyone wants to welcome you to the Ives group.  Many of
us have long experience with Ives' music and a fresh breeze on the
subject will be valued.  Just in case you haven't found it yourself,
Scott Mortensen, who owns this forum, began with a website to review
and describe Ives' music and recordings.

http://www.musicweb.uk.net/Ives/index.htm

Once again, welcome Gerry!

quartodeciman

Welcome Gerry

It's always nice to see new Ives converts. Yes, I agree 100% with you, the Naxos
CD (with Sym. 3) is oustanding and one of my favorite Ives CD's. Just watch out,
before you know it, you will start spening some dough on this stuff but it is
well worth it. I actually got into Ives in the beginning of 2003 and I know own
20 CD's! Scott's website is an amazing resource to learn and explore the Ives
catalog, along with some great reading. Bravo to Scott for all of the hard work
that went into creating such an amazing and educational site. If I may do so, I
would recommend getting the following sometime to hear some more incredible
music performed wonderfully:

Ives Sym. 1/ 4 - Tilson Thomas/ Chicago SO/Chorus
Ives Holidays Symphony - Tilson Thomas/ Chicago SO/ Chorus
Ives Piano Sonata No. 2 Concord, Mass - Lubimov (on Apex label)
Orchestral Music of Ives - James Sinclair/ Orch New England (on Koch)

They are all unbeatable recordings IMO and will reveal some more of the most
amazing music ever written. This music never ceases to enthrall and amaze me -
there is just so much musical material and detail in Ives' compostions - they
reward themselves on repeated listenings. Anyway, good luck and please post any
questions or comments that you may have during your discovery of Ives.

Frankie


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Thanks Jon and Frankie for your warm welcome to the group. I have stumbled
across Scott's site and look forward to visiting and revisiting often. I am
looking forward to obtaining some more Ives' work and will be glad to be
guided by your suggestions in this. Thanks again guys.

Gerry Hancock

-------Original Message-------

From: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
Date: 03 January 2004 19:37:06
To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [charlesives] Intro

Welcome Gerry

It's always nice to see new Ives converts. Yes, I agree 100% with you, the
Naxos CD (with Sym. 3) is oustanding and one of my favorite Ives CD's. Just
watch out, before you know it, you will start spening some dough on this
stuff but it is well worth it. I actually got into Ives in the beginning of
2003 and I know own 20 CD's! Scott's website is an amazing resource to learn
and explore the Ives catalog, along with some great reading. Bravo to Scott
for all of the hard work that went into creating such an amazing and
educational site. If I may do so, I would recommend getting the following
sometime to hear some more incredible music performed wonderfully:

Ives Sym. 1/ 4 - Tilson Thomas/ Chicago SO/Chorus
Ives Holidays Symphony - Tilson Thomas/ Chicago SO/ Chorus
Ives Piano Sonata No. 2 Concord, Mass - Lubimov (on Apex label)
Orchestral Music of Ives - James Sinclair/ Orch New England (on Koch)

They are all unbeatable recordings IMO and will reveal some more of the most
amazing music ever written. This music never ceases to enthrall and amaze me
- there is just so much musical material and detail in Ives' compostions -
they reward themselves on repeated listenings. Anyway, good luck and please
post any questions or comments that you may have during your discovery of
Ives.

Frankie


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Sorry about mix up in names....thanks Frankie and quartodeciman!.....great
name

Gerry



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From: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
Date: 03 January 2004 18:29:01
To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [charlesives] Re: Intro

The Naxos second Sinclair CD is on amazon.com and available in the
states.  Notice that our member super-reviewer Bob Zeidler has
included his own evaluation.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/B00007FKQM/qid=1073153683/sr=1-11/ref=sr_1_11/102-5755443-7979355?
v=glance&s=classical#product-details

I am sure everyone wants to welcome you to the Ives group.  Many of
us have long experience with Ives' music and a fresh breeze on the
subject will be valued.  Just in case you haven't found it yourself,
Scott Mortensen, who owns this forum, began with a website to review
and describe Ives' music and recordings.

http://www.musicweb.uk.net/Ives/index.htm

Once again, welcome Gerry!

quartodeciman





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Hi, Gerry!

Let me add my welcome to the others already here (and blush at
the favorable mention of one of my Amazon.com reviews).

I did a double-take when I first saw your name. Had you spelled
it *Gerre* Hancock, I'd have been asking you if you were an
organist. Gerre Hancock is one of America's finest pipe organ
performers, at the St. Thomas Church in New York City.

By all means, spend some time at Scott Mortenson's "A Charles
Ives Web Site." This is a true labor of love, and a thoroughly
professional one at that. (Don't ask me how Scott finds the time
to do this, but he obviously does.)

I've collected several of my favorite CDs and books about Charlie
at these two Amazon "Listmanias." Feel free to browse. And feel
free to take exception to my choices; they are, afer all, *my*
choices (although most of them are pretty *universal*).

For CDs, here is a *snipped* (shortened) URL for my list of
favorites (always growing):

http://snipurl.com/3n2d

For books, here is a *snipped* URL for essential reading:

http://snipurl.com/3n2e

Again, welcome!

Bob

I know that Scott (and surely others) are high on the
Fulkerson/Shannon performances of these (on two Bridge CDs).
And many years ago, the Druian/Simms LPs (on Philips) were
*the ones to have*.

But I'd like to recommend the new Naxos CD, with Curt
Thompson (violinist) and Rodney Waters (piano), as being both
authoritative *and* inexpensive:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008MLVJ/

As you can see from Scott Morrison's (*not* Mortenson's) review,
my appearance as a reviewer of this CD had been expected
some months ago. In my own review, I try to explain why it took
me so long to finally get my review up there. :-)

Between Scott's review and the fine one by Robin Friedman,
there wasn't much left for me to say in conventional terms. So I
did my best to "work around" those two reviews, and add some
thoughts of my own. Hopefully, my comments don't come across
as too didactic (a common failing of mine).

These sonatas are every bit as essential to an Ivesian as are all
the more "standard" fare. Simply marvelous!

Bob

Just wanted to let you guys know that my buddy Tim and I have created a new
yahoo group called modernclassical (actually it was his idea - I just went along
with it!). This is by no means trying to compete with this list - exactly the
opposite! We would love to see you guys subscribe if you are interested. Nothing
wrong with a few more e-mails per day, especially concerning good music.

www.groups.yahoo.com/group/modernclassical

Frankie



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This was sent to me from James Sinclair. I had e-mailed him asking him
if/when the Holidays will get recorded.

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Sinclair" <jamessinclair@...>
To: ""Camiola, Frank"" <chalkpie@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:49 PM
Subject: Holidays


> Todd sent me your query on the Naxos project. Yes, the Holidays will get
recorded, maybe in two years. Wash.Day, of course, is already out. Naxos
will use the other Holidays on various discs. The three orchestral sets are
probably the next recording sessions.

I just stumbled across a review of a disc that includes the first recordings
of Ives' music that were ever released commercially. If I remember
correctly, these recordings were made under the auspices of Henry Cowell's
music journal, which Ives was bankrolling.

Check out:
http://www.musicweb.uk.net/classrev/2004/Jan04/IonisationII.htm

The CD includes two very short works by Ives, both conducted by Nicolas
Slonimsky: the "Barn Dance" section from "Washington's Birthday" and "In the
Night" (one of the sections from "Set for Theatre Orch").  I suppose that
these were two sides of a single 78-rpm disc.

I've never heard these recordings.  Has anyone?  It'd be interesting to
compare them with contemporary recordings of the same works.

I hope all are having a Happy New Year.

Scott


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> both conducted by Nicolas Slonimsky

Interesting!  Has anyone ever heard any recording of NS as conductor?

quart

quart writes:
>
> Interesting!  Has anyone ever heard any recording of NS as
conductor?

No. But I'm about to take the plunge, with the "prequel" to that
"Ionisation II" CD, since it's up at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004SD1E/

And, as soon as "Ionisation II" is up there, you can be sure that
I'll get that one as well.

The all-time "find" for Slonimsky recordings would be if ever one
turned up in the Berlin P.O. vaults from when he conducted Ives,
Varèse and others, nicely documented in his "first" biography,
"Perfect Pitch":

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0825672740/

This is a funny, funny book. Except where, as I noted in my
review, he talks about Ives. In tones best described as
"reverential."

Slonimsky had a short and none-too-happy stint as conductor of
the Hollywood Bowl Orchestra back in the early '30s. He
conducted too much music of the "moderns" and that was that!

Truly an amazing man.

I'm still working on getting all of Gregg Smith Singers' oop Columbia LPs of
Ives' choral music transfered to CD.  Looks like I might have someone who
can do it for me.  More details coming soon...

It's my favorite version of the Harvest Home Chorales.



Scott Mortensen


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>From: "daniel_anthony_stearns" <daniel_anthony_stearns@...>
>Reply-To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
>To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [charlesives] Harvest Home Chorales
>Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:23:38 -0000
>
>One of the few works of Ives that I've long wanted to hear but never
>have, are the Three Harvest Home Chorales--any suggestions on an
>available recording?
>Thanks
>
>
>

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That Ionization CD looks very interesting.

You have guessed my mind on this exactly.  I thoroughly enjoy
rereading PERFECT PITCH again and again to this day.  I already knew
Lexicon of Musical Invective and Music after 1900 by NS.  They are
great for rainy afternoon pour-throughs.  The second book is a solid
document of the International Society for Contemporary Music
festivals through those years.  NS never fails to amuse, even with
his deliberate bogus entries.

I have never quite understood why Hollywood killed NS's conducting
career, except maybe for timing.  In the depths of the great
depression nobody wanted risky music at the symphony?  Also, NS's
reputation was largely established in Europe, specifically Germany,
and after 1933 that was a dead venue for 12 years.  Also, I guess
papa Ives income got reduced, so his contributions in support had to
decrease.  I guess there are reasons.  I'm not sure if NS was
necessarily a great conductor, but he certainly had the heart for
taking risks.

In a message dated 1/14/2004 12:51:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
daniel_anthony_stearns@... writes:

> One of the few works of Ives that I've long wanted to hear but never
> have, are the Three Harvest Home Chorales--any suggestions on an
> available recording?
>
>

There is a live Ormandy\Philadelphia performance kicking around the
underground, this from a November 10, 1974 broadcast.

Best,

Tom Heilman


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Hopefully I'm not duplicating anyone else's work.

Both of the Symposium CDs which have Varèse and Ives works
conducted by Nic Slonimsky can be ordered from MDT
(mdt.co.uk):

http://secure.mdt.co.uk/MDT_Exp/index_exp.htm

If this fails to give the right "hits," just put "Ionisation"
(without the quotes) and "Symposium" (again without the
quotes) into the top two search boxes (separated by "and").

MDT is that European rarity, a CD website that doesn't charge
outrageous prices for shipping ($0.75 each, I think). And service
is fast (air mail at no extra charge).

Now I find a slight bit of egg on my face, where, in my Amazon
review of "Perfect Pitch," I had written:

"One can only wish that some recording or another of a
Slonimsky performance of an Ives work would have survived, but
apparently - and regrettably - this is an idle wish."

Not such an idle wish after all! Thanks, Scott, for that find!

Well, I trekked into NYC today via LIRR to pick up the free Ives tickets, only
to be disappointed to learn that the show on the 30th (Ives 4) is sold out. They
told me that there will be a line for standby in case people don't show up, etc.
In any event, I did get two tickets (they only give out two tickets per person)
for this upcoming Friday's show which features the Third Symphony, Four Ragtime
Dances, and Three Places In New England (chamber version). Those are also going
quickly, so if you are planning on going, act quickly.

Tim - if you are still up for standby on the 30th - I am still game. If you
think you want to go this Friday, try to go to the Juilliard Box Office tomorrow
(B'Way and W. 66th) and get yourself a ticket. They are open until 6 PM.

Frankie

PS - I did manage to start reading "Charles Ives: A Life with Music" by Jan
Swafford today. So Danbury was known for hats, eh?



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Last night my wife Jen and I went to the first show of the Focus 2004 series at
Julliard featuring the music of Charles Ives.

The hall was pretty filled to capacity with only about 10 or 15 seats empty, so
the turnout was excellent. The music was performed in the Juilliard Theater by
mainly *YOUNG* Juilliard students under the direction of Dr. Joel Sachs, who has
a pretty impressive performance resume/history. The Concert opener was "Four
Ragtime Dances" and I would have to say that it was surprisingly the highlight
of the evening for me. I only own one recording of this (Sinclair/ONE on Koch),
so this is the second "different" performance of this piece that I have heard.
In a word -  it was *TIGHT*. They performed this piece with all of the intended
Ivesian "eyebrows" that makes this piece work so wonderfully in so many aspects.
To see and hear this piece live was to experience many incredibly subtle parts
for the seemingly first time. The time sudden shifts of time signatures ,
dynamics, moods, etc - it was all there. Unfortunately, many concert-goers did
not realize that the last movement is not yet finished after the BIG crescendo
and of course people started to applause prematurely, only to be silenced by
Sachs with a quick turn of his hand. Oh well. Still, a top-notch rendition.

Next up were Five songs with Chamber Orchestra performed by a baritone whose
name on the program was Mr. Mulligan? Anyway, the songs in order were
"Swimmers", "Charlie Rutlage", "Hymn (Largo Cantabile)", "Old Home Day", and
"General Booth Enters into Heaven". To make a long story short, most of this
performance was spoiled for us and many other people around us when an elderly
gentleman sat down two seats away and had an odor that would give any NYC subway
station a run for its money. It was hard to concentrate on these songs, but they
were performed quite nicely for the most part. I still prefer Ives songs with
soprano, but this guy did do a wonderful job. "Charlie" was particularly nice
and it was great seeing this live and reading along with the text.

After most of the people cleared out (I'm serious) of the rows around us, we
found some new seats in time for the chamber version of "Three Places in New
England". The first movement was excellent and hearing the piano parts live was
a revelation for me in comparison to the recordings. If you want to nitpick, I
felt as though Sachs could have let the end of the first movement linger on a
bit longer for to convey a slightly more mysterious flavor before the final
cadence, but hey, whaddya want for free ?  ; ) Putnam's Camp was great! I felt
this version had a bit more bite and grit than the Orpheus CO version on DG, and
was therefore more convincing to my ears. They performance was very tight and it
came off quite well. I really have a better appreciation of how hard this
movement is to play and conduct after seeing this live - this ain't for
beginners! The Housatonic was a bit of a letdown for me, especially compared to
Sinclair/ONE. This is my favorite movement of Three Places and one of my
favorite Ives pieces, so there was a bit more riding on this one for me
personally. The performance was fine, but it just didn't reach the height and
intensity especially during the big crescendo after the gorgeous violin melody.
I just felt as though Sach's could have gotten more out of the entire chamber
orchestra. I guess I am starting to sound like an Ives snob - sorry! If you want
to hear this movement performed with total inspiration and intensity, check out
Sinclairs and/or Tilson Thomas with the Boston Symphony on DG. Overall, Three
Places was fantastic, if not quite reaching the level of the aforementioned
versions.

After a small intermission, the final piece was Symphony No. 3. This piece is
still one of my favorite Ives works, and they did a bang up job overall. From
the absolutely beautiful and serene opening chords, they had me hooked during
the entire piece. Sachs took the Andante at a middle-of-the-road tempo which
worked very well. Overall, the orchestra played with a great balance with a keen
sense of orchestral color. The Bach-ian (for the lack of a better term) cello
and string bass part was great to see live, as was the fugal violin and viola
entrances. The first movement is deceptively complex, but is written and
arranged so meticulously that it sounds effortless on recordings. The Second
movement was also played extremely well and was pretty straightforward overall.
The "Marching band" section was particularly nice. The Largo (my personal
favorite) was stunning. IMO, this small group of Juilliard students reached the
height of Orpheus, Sinclair's version on Naxos, or any other version I have
heard. The subtle "shadow line" dissonances which make Ives so unique and
beautiful sounded gorgeous. The piece was coming to the final cadence and
offstage the distant "church bells" started
ringing.........softer............softer..........softer............softer......\
........softer................................... BOOM/ CRASH/ KABLAM/ POW/
FTCRGFVGFX !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Apparently
somebody backstage either fell down or knocked over a bunch of stuff - it was
actually quite hilarious! Jen asked me if that was supposed to be intentional
and I answered "Not on the versions I own"!  Sachs did jokingly say something to
the effect of "That is what happens when you get to close to the balcony..."
Great performance, crashes and all.

I absolutely enjoyed my first live Ives experience as did my wife, which quite
honestly I was not sure would be the case! I'm very proud of her! This is not
easy music for a person that doesn't listen to modern classical, but the music
was performed so well that it just came off. There is another whole week of
concerts starting on Monday, so I will keep you posted if I can make some other
concerts. Thanks for listen to me babble. Ives Rules!

Frankie







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I just got finished listening to the "Trio for Violin, Cello, and Piano" on the
'Made In America' disc. I will go right out and say it - this is one of the
greatest Ives works *EVER* in any medium. Each movement is so completely
different and evokes so many different feelings. The third is just absolutely
gorgeous, one of the prettiest works by Ives IMO. (What is it with Ives and the
last movements of works?) I have listened to this piece many times before, but I
am just starting to come around to really appreciating its true beauty. I feel
this work needs to be heard more, not only by Ives 'fans', but by the general
classical music loving public. Does anybody agree with me that this piece is a
diamond or am I totally off my rocker?

Frankie



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Hello guys, hope you had a good new year !

Interesting article about Dallapicola by Bayan Northcott (also a
composer)

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/music/features/story.jsp?story=4848
72

There was aqn interestin 2 hour broadcast of "modern Italians" a few
weeks ago, but I didn't get round to posting on it.  Fascinating
music - any comments ?  They did two Berio, the piano and the
chorale.


Anne
anne.ozorio@...

Frankie,

I TOTALLY agree with you.  I think that the Trio is definitely one of Ives'
greatest works.  And you're right:  the final movement is the best, a
complete knock-out.

Thanks too for your concert review.  Sounds like you had a lot of fun. I
wish I could have been there.  I'm still hoping to make it some of the NYPO
performances in May.

Scott


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>From: Frankie Camiola <chalkpie@...>
>Reply-To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
>To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [charlesives] Trio
>Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:41:41 -0500
>
>I just got finished listening to the "Trio for Violin, Cello, and Piano" on
>the 'Made In America' disc. I will go right out and say it - this is one of
>the greatest Ives works *EVER* in any medium. Each movement is so
>completely different and evokes so many different feelings. The third is
>just absolutely gorgeous, one of the prettiest works by Ives IMO. (What is
>it with Ives and the last movements of works?) I have listened to this
>piece many times before, but I am just starting to come around to really
>appreciating its true beauty. I feel this work needs to be heard more, not
>only by Ives 'fans', but by the general classical music loving public. Does
>anybody agree with me that this piece is a diamond or am I totally off my
>rocker?
>
>Frankie
>
>
>
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> Thanks too for your concert review.  Sounds like you had a lot of fun. I
> wish I could have been there.  I'm still hoping to make it some of the
NYPO
> performances in May.
>
> Scott

No problem Scott - my pleasure. I was planning on going tomorrow night as
well to see the Concord, but with this heavy snow storm and all, it may not
happen.  : (

Frankie

I am wondering if anyone can help me. Is there anyone who knows if
Ives's music was recorded in (going on information I have founs so
far) about the 1930s on the "His Master's Voice" pink label series of
78 rpm 12 inch records? ("His Master's Voice" is the distinctive
label with the dog staring down the snout of the gramophone machine)

I know little about the technicalities of music but this music was
very memorable and a bit groovy, a wee bit different to most Sonata
stuff, very energetic and memorable. It was almost groovy in places.

I dont have MP3 or anything like that. I want to know where I can get
comprehensive lists of all his music and where and when it was
released by record. HMV is non-American, so this release was probably
the UK.

I ask because I can remember from my childhood some records which I
really loved, but are long gone. (My Dad decided nobody needed our
old records, so he put them all in the dump because they are out of
date, and besides, we have these new fangled CDs now, dont we!
arrrgh!) So now I'm trying to track down a lot of this music on CD -
I've decided that having it play in my head is not good enough. And
so it certainly helps to know the name of the music. Being young I
neither noticed nor cared who wrote the music but going by all I've
read I think that I'm getting warm here with Mr. Ives. It was titled
simply "Sonata No. 4 for Violin and Piano" (I think it was 4) and it
was spread over several 78s.

Thanks for listening, anyway, if you've come this far!

{big snip}

It was titled simply "Sonata No. 4 for Violin and Piano" (I think it
was 4) and it was spread over several 78s.

---------------------------------------------------------

This was most likely the premiere recording of the work, by
Joseph Szigeti and Andor Foldes.

Here is a link to the Violin Sonatas page of Jim Sinclair's on-line
"A Descriptive Catalogue of the Music of Charles Ives":

http://snipurl.com/48bt

Scroll down to the bottom (after the detailed description of the 4th
Violin Sonata), and you'll see Sinclair's reference to that 1942
recording.

Whether or not this was ever transferred to CD (I believe it was
once available on an LP transfer) would require some
websearch. You might try Amazon.com, or a more general
search using Google.

Bob

BTW, if the Ives violin sonatas have caught your fancy (and, as a
somewhat experienced Ivesian, I've come to think that these four
works are as good a place as any to start on one's journey),
there is a new, wonderful and inexpensive Naxos CD of them:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008MLVJ/

I'm biased, so feel free to ignore my own review comments. But
do read the comments of the other 3 reviewers, most particularly
"weirdears" and J Scott Morrison.

An Amazon.com search on "Ives" and Szigeti" turned up nothing.
I can't say that I'm surprised.

Bob

I went to all six of them. They were all free, and I never again
expect to be able to hear so much Charles Ives music in such a short
time, and played so well. Anne Manson's conducting of the 4th Symphony
was amazing. Did others out there get to go to them all?

I went to all six of them. They were all free, and I never again
   expect to be able to hear so much Charles Ives music in such a short
   time, and played so well. Anne Manson's conducting of the 4th Symphony
   was amazing. Did others out there get to go to them all?



   Annie

   I saw both Fridays. I posted my review of the first show (Symph. 3, TPiNE) a
week ago. I need to get around to writing my review of the last show. It was one
of the most moving concerts I have ever seen. Ives 4 blew my mind beyond
description. The entire last show was fantastic. I had planned on seeing a few
more shows (especially the Concord and the Trio), but I unfortunately I got sick
during the week. Seeing these shows cemented the notion that Ives is THE
greatest composer ever!! : )

   Frankie


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Thankyou!

I'm not necessarily on the lookout for that exact same (scratchy)
recording! Naxos sounds good enough to me. It will be great to re-
acquant myself with this music whatever the case. I think you've put
me in the right direction. I'll scour the CD shops.

Thanks again.
JDN


> This was most likely the premiere recording of the work, by
> Joseph Szigeti and Andor Foldes.
>
> Here is a link to the Violin Sonatas page of Jim Sinclair's on-line
> "A Descriptive Catalogue of the Music of Charles Ives":
>
> http://snipurl.com/48bt
>
> Scroll down to the bottom (after the detailed description of the
4th
> Violin Sonata), and you'll see Sinclair's reference to that 1942
> recording.
>
> Whether or not this was ever transferred to CD (I believe it was
> once available on an LP transfer) would require some
> websearch. You might try Amazon.com, or a more general
> search using Google.
>
> Bob

Does anyone have the Gregg Smith Singers recording, "New Music Of Charles
Ives"? It's out-of-print; Gregg himself emailed me & told me Sony needs to get
off its duff & reissue it, but till Sony does, does anyone have access to it?
Thanks....Annie


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Annie,

I've got it. I'd be glad to make you a cassette tape of it. Contact me
privately if that works for you.

I'm also hoping to make a compilation of all of Smith's Ives recordings and
transfer them to CD.  But that will be a while.  A few months maybe.  I'm in
the process of moving--and buying a better turntable.

I'll let everyone on the list know when I've got something.


Scott Mortensen


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>From: anniewrite@...
>Reply-To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
>To: charlesives@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [charlesives] Gregg Smith?
>Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:50:39 EST
>
>Does anyone have the Gregg Smith Singers recording, "New Music Of Charles
>Ives"? It's out-of-print; Gregg himself emailed me & told me Sony needs to
>get
>off its duff & reissue it, but till Sony does, does anyone have access to
>it?
>Thanks....Annie
>
>
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>

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