I appreciate the opportunity to interact.

Quoting "be anxious for nothing..." is certainly appropriate.

I guess what I am saying is that, quoting "seek ye first...", a passage
regarding promise of promised provision in the millennial kingdom, does not
give me comfort or encouragement now in our fallen world.

creativesoulonline <creativesoulonline@...> wrote:

I guess I'm still not sure how I am quoting out of context.

Paul wrote Philippians from prison (talk about a tough time in his
life!) As a matter of fact, the chapter summary in my New American
Standard Bible states: "This is one of Paul's most personal
letters...the apostle was writing to a group of friends who he deeply
loved."

I am writing in the same way here, imploring my friends to also "Be
anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with
thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God."

Paul was urging the folks he was writing to live in harmony in the
Lord. (Phil. 4:2)

I don't think what I was saying and who I was saying it to was much
different.

Thanks for challenging me though, it's been a good Bible study!

EC


--- In christianjazzgroup@yahoogroups.com, Burgess Duane
wrote:
>
> Yes, but we must quote correctly.
>
> Jesus, Himself, spoke of the significance of even the jot and the
tittle.
>
> No prophecy is a matter of any private interpretation, and we're
exhorted to study that we may be approved unto God, rightly handling
the Word of Truth.
>
> Jesus was continually correcting misunderstanding (have you not
read?) and rebuking error (you have heard it said, but I say unto you...).
>
> Scripture is not a compilation of verses for all occasions, nor
convenient phrases to use to communicate a message of our own.
>
> If we quote in error we give false hope, leading to false
expectations, which, when unrealized, lead to confusion and
disillusionment.
>
> True comfort and encouragement will come when the Word is rightly
understood and applied. Jesus said, to those who believed (not to the
lost about being saved), you shall know the truth...and the truth
shall set you free.
>
> We are not set free when we quote phrases out of context to say
something they don't actually mean.
>
> We are called to truth, and to speak the truth in love. In this age
of growing biblical illiteracy and compromise of the authority of
Scripture we must be even more diligent to rightly divide the Word so
the Spirit may use it as divinely intended.
>
> So, if we quote "seek ye first...and all these shall be added unto
you..." we must understand that the Creator promised to Israel great
blessings in the promised millennial kingdom. We know that the same
Creator takes care of us. But we cannot assume that if our heart is
right in seeking God that we can necessarily expect material
provision. That isn't the message of this text. And we mustn't forget
that those who live godly lives will suffer persecution (see also Heb.
11).
>
>
>
> creativesoulonline wrote: Well, I think as
Christians we are pretty safe to quote Jesus as
> inspired word of the Lord. We'll quote Mark Twain, Oprah, and even Dr.
> Phil to help us get through things.
>
> I think it's okay to perhaps use the words of our Savior to divine how
> God might counsel us.
>
> EC
>
>
> --- In christianjazzgroup@yahoogroups.com, Burgess Duane
> wrote:
> >
> > We must also be careful to note the context of the passages we quote.
> >
> > The gospels are primarily the presentation of the promised Messiah
> to Israel
> > (for the benefit of the whole world, of course). The Church began at
> Pentecost.
> >
> > Mt. 6:33 is Yeshua's call to Israel to recognize him as their
> messiah. If they had received him, according to the time table laid
> out in Daniel 9, the Millennial Kingdom would have been ushered in and
> then "all these things" would have been added to them.
> >
> > Without proper context we miss the original intended meaning, miss
> the appropriate application today, and mistakenly make Mt. 6:33
> another prosperity verse.
> >
> > fresno620 wrote: Thanks for the three great posts.
> I am an ordained Presbyterian
> > minister. That was a great message. It was ''refreshing" to see
> > Philippians 4:6 quoted. Another verse comes to my mind;
> >
> > Mt 6:33 "But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness,
> > and all these things will be given to you as well."
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >
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