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Re: [christianjazzgroup] Why Jazz and Christian Music are alike...

Sounds basically good to me.

What I rarely hear addressed is how the believer's obligation to pursue holiness
applies to music. All things are to be done to the glory of God. This presupposes that there are things that do, and things that do not glorify God.

A major factor, of course, is the subjective element of music. Liking or disliking a musical style or form does not define whether it is acceptable to God or not. It also impacts our ability to be objective.

I prefer to think in terms of what is appropriate in a given situation. Right and wrong in musical style - if such exists - is difficult to clearly define. Lyrics, on the other hand, are much easier to consider in light of the Word.

However, if the lost select a particular form of music to represent their ungodly passions and pursuits, shouldn't we at least consider not using that particular form in order to "be ye separate"?

There are certainly many opinions on that.

What I do believe is we cannot embrace all things indiscriminately. We must be thinking believers in order to worship with our mind.

My main concern is not the differing views on this, but how seldom I
even see the holiness factor in christian music even discussed.

There seems to be an assumption that all forms of music are acceptable to God.
Yet Scripture does record celebrations of debauchery, for example. If a particular form of music is suitable to express debauchery, is it somehow made holy by changing the lyrics?

Hopefully food for thought.

We must also bear in mind the biblical admonition to "not allow what is good for us to be spoken of as evil."  This does not address so much whether a matter is acceptable to God or not, but calls on the more mature believer to be sensitive to the less mature believer and restrain our exercise of "liberty" at times to accommodate their weaker conscience.



ericcopelandmusic <ericcopelandmusic@...> wrote:
As jazz artists, we try to speak another language musically.
Something beyond the easy to understand "normal" lite rock that you
hear in Kroger while you shop. We try to bring a newness, mostly by
redefining an old standard, or improvising new melodies over chords.
Our goal is to affect the listener on a deeper level.

It's quite similar to what we try to do as Christian music artists as
well. Bring the gospel to the world through contemporary, commercial
music. Singing Christian lyrics in ways the world can understand and
appreciate. Jazzing up hymns and worship tunes, or even turning a
secular song on it's ear so that it has religious meaning.

Jazz permits us even more to experiment and have freedom in the
Christian music realm. If you do CCM (pop or rock) you are still bound
to the rules of commercialism of the "Christian Music Industry".

But as Jazz artists, we were free of those rules a long time ago anyway!

Any thoughts?

EC
http://www.ericcopelandmusic.com




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As jazz artists, we try to speak another language musically. Something beyond the easy to understand "normal" lite rock that you hear in Kroger while you shop....
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Sounds basically good to me. What I rarely hear addressed is how the believer's obligation to pursue holiness applies to music. All things are to be done to...
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dburgess wrote: However, if the lost select a particular form of music to represent their ungodly passions and pursuits, shouldn't we at least consider not...
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The lost don't determine what music is evil; they simply use what is suitable to their fleshly desires. It has to do with the character of the music selected....
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Concerning the "heart" a couple of scriptures came to mind, although they are not in the context of musical style. In 1 Samuel 16:7, ... "Man looks at the ...
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Dec 8, 2007
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Likewise, humming the melody to Amazing Grace would not communicate John Newton's experience to those who've never heard the song. Thanks for your comments. ...
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I was watching the Ken Burns Jazz special and when teens loved Ragtime, parents eschewed it as evil and "noise". Personally, everything I play (in church or...
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All well and fine, except for one point you state so clearly: "...screaming like possessed demons, but doing so "in the Spirit"." Does the Word, properly...
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I think that's the sticking point here. Just like parents judged ragtime (or rock music) as "from the devil", we make our own assumptions based on what we see...
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Thanks for this discussion! It's a blessing to hear how others are thinking about and dealing with ... what it is we do. And I'm encouraged to go deeper in...
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